Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my messages carefully! ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward. On 9/2/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why this job was so difficult. Good chance the tech had never changed a battery in W123 before in his life. I had a battery changed at the Interstate Battery shop (installation was free) and they did not have any problems getting the old one out, but remarked on the novelty of the hood being able to open all the way to vertical. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the bonnet. andrew strasfogel wrote: You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my messages carefully! ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I've owned a CD and several 300D's and I can say that the battery compartment is tighter in the CDs. You won't notice the difference with a Wal-Mart or discount parts house battery because these are smaller than the correct battery but the difference is very obvious with the correct size Mercedes or aftermarket battery. The battery will lift right out of a 300D but you will struggle while pulling a battery out of a CD because some of the sheet metal interferes with the back edge of the battery. You have to lift up the back edge about 2 inches first then pull the battery out at an angle. The same situation exists with the 280CE - I owned one of these too. The space where the battery sits where the fuse box is at (opposite side) are tighter due to the fact that the windshield is more sloped on the CD CE, but Mercedes used the same piece of glass that they used in the 4 door 123 body cars. This moved some of the sheet metal more foreword on the CD. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 10:45 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question Perhaps a few pictures and detailed notes as to why it is so relatively hard to get a batt out of a CD might help us to understand, particularly us over ere who have never seen a CD, let alone had a gander under the bonnet. andrew strasfogel wrote: You guys are all still either missing the point or not reading my messages carefully! ONLY the battery in a 300CD TURBODIESEL coupe is a challenge to remove; all other W123s are relatively straightforward. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
andrew strasfogel wrote: All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the new one. It only took me 5-10 minutes to wrestle the battery out of the wrecked 190Dt. (it was hit behind the right front wheel, and the battery compartment is a fair bit smaller than it was before) Reinstalling the battery was a bit harder than removing it. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why this job was so difficult. Good chance the tech had never changed a battery in W123 before in his life. I had a battery changed at the Interstate Battery shop (installation was free) and they did not have any problems getting the old one out, but remarked on the novelty of the hood being able to open all the way to vertical. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why this job was so difficult. On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: no, they are the same too. They have a different air cleaner, but it is located up front, so there is even more room on those. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. The California versions are different... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
It's hard to get a battery out, armed only with a laptop and mobile phone. andrew strasfogel wrote: All I know is, the MB Roadside tech was really SWEATING for 45 minutes before he succeeded in getting out the old battery and installing the new one. Perhaps someone can do some measurements to determine why this job was so difficult. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
10 minutes? Takes me less than 2 minutes. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad. Luther On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Woah, I literally, read this message, went on to the next one and then paused and said Was that the banned list? Then I came back to this message and realized we were talking about battery replacement. On THAT topic, I will also comment that I didn't think it was very difficult to change the battery in my 83' 300D... Levi On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 minutes? Takes me less than 2 minutes. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad. Luther On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe. On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes. On 8/31/07, Levi Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Woah, I literally, read this message, went on to the next one and then paused and said Was that the banned list? Then I came back to this message and realized we were talking about battery replacement. On THAT topic, I will also comment that I didn't think it was very difficult to change the battery in my 83' 300D... Levi On 8/31/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 10 minutes? Takes me less than 2 minutes. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad. Luther On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe. On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
it's identical. Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air cleaner? Luther On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe. On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT. On 8/31/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's identical. Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air cleaner? Luther On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe. On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Interesting, my '82 CD has the same configuration as my '82D, '85D, and dad's '85D-cali, and '85TD. What gives? On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:29:55 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT. On 8/31/07, Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it's identical. Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air cleaner? Luther On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question It's ONLY a difficult job in the cramped engine bay of a W123 300CD coupe. On other models even I can do the trick in 10 minutes. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I have never removed an air cleaner to remove a battery, I dont see any reason to. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question it's identical. Kaleb, can you get it out without removing the air cleaner? Luther On Fri, 31 Aug 2007 13:58:50 -0500, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The engine bay should be the same as any other 123 isnt it? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. The California versions are different... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
FWIW, it wasn't difficult at all the change out the battery in my '85 California 300D; only took a few minutes. cheers! e John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. The California versions are different... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
They are not the same. The coup windshield has a steeper slope the car has a lower roof line, but they used the same piece of glass. Also, the back window is slightly shorter because of the lower roof the seats sit lower to accommodate the lower roof line. I'm sure they also did some juggling around the rear of the engine compartment to accommodate the windshield since the bottom edge would sit slightly more foreword. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin, work Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question The roominess around the battery of a 1985 300CD is defiitely more cramped than a 1983 300TD, I can tell you that as a FACT. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
no, they are the same too. They have a different air cleaner, but it is located up front, so there is even more room on those. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 FSBO Supervisor 918-746-1400 x305 - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I dont really see how that could be. A sedan, wagon, coupe are all the same from the windshield up. The California versions are different... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Smith, Todd wrote: I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old battery. Is there something else that I have to take off to get the battery out. It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it doesn't clear the air filter housing. There is a battery clamp on the side of the tray that pushes a lip on the batter under the side of the battery tray. That being said, I've found that lifting straight up doesn't work all that well. If you rock it to one side and get one of the lips on the battery out it comes out much easier. G'luck! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Hi Todd, If the wrong sized battery was installed it can be *really, really* tough to get out. If the correct battery was installed it willl be merely *really tough*. The batteries in W123 cars all seem to be more difficult to change than is neccessary - The lip of the cowl sticks out a little too far and as you noted, the air filter assy interfers as well. It's been a while since I changed one but will removing the air filter housing help? Otherwise it's a matter of tilting and *coaxing* the battery out. Not easy for sure. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old battery. Is there something else that I have to take off to get the battery out. It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it doesn't clear the air filter housing. Is there something obvious that I am missing or what? The PO took pretty lousy care of this vehicle and for all I can tell it might not even be the right battery. Thanks for the help Todd Smith '85 300CD 248k miles Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) On 8/30/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Todd, If the wrong sized battery was installed it can be *really, really* tough to get out. If the correct battery was installed it willl be merely *really tough*. The batteries in W123 cars all seem to be more difficult to change than is neccessary - The lip of the cowl sticks out a little too far and as you noted, the air filter assy interfers as well. It's been a while since I changed one but will removing the air filter housing help? Otherwise it's a matter of tilting and *coaxing* the battery out. Not easy for sure. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: Smith, Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question I know that I sound ignorant so sue me. :) I am trying to replace the junk battery in my '85 300CD with a brand new battery and I can't remove the old battery. Is there something else that I have to take off to get the battery out. It doesn't clear the lip of the engine compartment and it doesn't clear the air filter housing. Is there something obvious that I am missing or what? The PO took pretty lousy care of this vehicle and for all I can tell it might not even be the right battery. Thanks for the help Todd Smith '85 300CD 248k miles Confidentiality Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential. If this e-mail contains protected health information, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited,except as permitted by law. If you have received this communication in error, please notify the sender immediately by replying to this message and deleting it from your computer. Thank you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.12/979 - Release Date: 8/29/2007 8:21 PM ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 300CD battery question
WOW, I can RR a 123 battery in less than 10 mins. I much prefer the pull out drop in of the 126. Remove the air cleaner. Have new rubber air cleaner mounts handy if yours are bad. Luther On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:46:37 -0500, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pull off the long rubber strip on the edge beneath the front w/s - that will help. This is a tough job! It took the Mercedes Roadside tech 45 minutes to change the battery in her '85 300CD. I came out ahead in that deal (battery cost $137 installed, IIRC) -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi) '82 300CD (166 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
