Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
that sounds about right.

On Feb 4, 2008 3:46 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > 30 to 1 is a fantasy.  i wish i'd have checked the odds before the
> > game in anticipation of this sort of issue being raised.
>
> Looks like I was misinformed by about a factor of 10 the money line
> that I found for giants was about +350.  I don't really know much
> about sports odds but but my understanding is that this means you
> would have won $350 for $100 bet on the Giants.
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> 30 to 1 is a fantasy.  i wish i'd have checked the odds before the
> game in anticipation of this sort of issue being raised.

Looks like I was misinformed by about a factor of 10 the money line
that I found for giants was about +350.  I don't really know much
about sports odds but but my understanding is that this means you
would have won $350 for $100 bet on the Giants.

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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
30 to 1 is a fantasy.  i wish i'd have checked the odds before the game in
anticipation of this sort of issue being raised.

On Feb 4, 2008 3:13 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Allan Streib wrote:
> > Well you ought to be in fat city now, right?  What were the straight
> > win/loss odds on the Giants?  Someone told me 30:1 ??
>
> I wish I'd known that was the case. In a contest between two competitors,
> especially when they are established to be the top two from a playoff,
> 30:1 is always a huge gift to the gambler. I don't care if it's baseball,
> tennis, football, or match play golf. If Vijay Singh and Tiger Woods are
> the final two in a match competition, I'll go with Tiger at even money,
> but give me 30:1 odds and I'll put $100 to $1000 on Vijay every time.
> Heck, give me 30:1 and I'll bet Agassi over Federer.
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Allan Streib wrote:
> Well you ought to be in fat city now, right?  What were the straight
> win/loss odds on the Giants?  Someone told me 30:1 ??

I wish I'd known that was the case. In a contest between two competitors,
especially when they are established to be the top two from a playoff, 
30:1 is always a huge gift to the gambler. I don't care if it's baseball,
tennis, football, or match play golf. If Vijay Singh and Tiger Woods are
the final two in a match competition, I'll go with Tiger at even money,
but give me 30:1 odds and I'll put $100 to $1000 on Vijay every time. 
Heck, give me 30:1 and I'll bet Agassi over Federer. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
couldn't have been that high.  i'd guess maybe 4 or 5, but i didn't bet the
game.  i limit myself to areas where i can only make "professional" bets,
that is, could in principle bet on either team.  as i could never have bet
against the giants, this would have been a "passion" bet and i just plain
stay away from bets where i am a fan, whether on a team or a horse.

maybe i need to reconsider my thinking here.

On Feb 4, 2008 3:00 PM, Allan Streib <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > no, you almost saw a great upset, but fortunately the better team
> > prevailed
>
> Well you ought to be in fat city now, right?  What were the straight
> win/loss odds on the Giants?  Someone told me 30:1 ??
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Allan Streib
"Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> no, you almost saw a great upset, but fortunately the better team
> prevailed

Well you ought to be in fat city now, right?  What were the straight
win/loss odds on the Giants?  Someone told me 30:1 ??

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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
no, you almost saw a great upset, but fortunately the better team prevailed

On Feb 4, 2008 2:08 PM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No, I'm a Chiefs fan IF I ever follow pro football.   I followed them
> every game this season since Brady was my kick ass fantasy QB.  Then, I kept
> up with them rooting for history in the making.  Instead, I saw one of the
> greatest upsets of history.
>
> Luther
>
> On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:50:01 -0600, andrew strasfogel <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I think Luther is a Pats fan...
> >
> > On Feb 4, 2008 4:31 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> No offense, Gary, but you are really stupid at times.  Good job to NY
> for
> >> playing a better game than NE.
> >>
> >
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Luther
No, I'm a Chiefs fan IF I ever follow pro football.   I followed them every 
game this season since Brady was my kick ass fantasy QB.  Then, I kept up with 
them rooting for history in the making.  Instead, I saw one of the greatest 
upsets of history.

Luther

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 08:50:01 -0600, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think Luther is a Pats fan...
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 4:31 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> No offense, Gary, but you are really stupid at times.  Good job to NY for
>> playing a better game than NE.
>>
>



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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
that one was pretty ridiculous, but it calmed down after that.

On Feb 4, 2008 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > no doubt.  they are a very good team.  but the refs have been carrying
> them
> > for the past 2 months.
>
> I only noticed one yesterday. Pats first drive, I forget who caught the
> pass, but he bounced off the ground, even his head was a full yard short
> of the first down when he landed. He bounced and slid to the first down
> marker so they gave it to him. It was just so blatant the way they were
> given first and ten instead of third and one on that play.
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote:
> 
> no doubt.  they are a very good team.  but the refs have been carrying them
> for the past 2 months.

I only noticed one yesterday. Pats first drive, I forget who caught the
pass, but he bounced off the ground, even his head was a full yard short
of the first down when he landed. He bounced and slid to the first down
marker so they gave it to him. It was just so blatant the way they were
given first and ten instead of third and one on that play. 

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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
no doubt.  they are a very good team.  but the refs have been carrying them
for the past 2 months.  there place in history is now in question.

On Feb 4, 2008 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> > now that the fraud of the brady bunch has been revealed, a lot of people
> are
> > going to take it hard
>
> Tom's still a scary guy to have on the other team.
> How many times did it look like the pats were stopped at 3rd and long,
> only to have Brady make the play?
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Mitch Haley
Gary Hurst wrote:
> 
> now that the fraud of the brady bunch has been revealed, a lot of people are
> going to take it hard

Tom's still a scary guy to have on the other team. 
How many times did it look like the pats were stopped at 3rd and long,
only to have Brady make the play?

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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Gary Hurst
now that the fraud of the brady bunch has been revealed, a lot of people are
going to take it hard

On Feb 4, 2008 9:50 AM, andrew strasfogel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I think Luther is a Pats fan...
>
> On Feb 4, 2008 4:31 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > No offense, Gary, but you are really stupid at times.  Good job to NY
> for
> > playing a better game than NE.
> >
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> >
> >
> > Quoting Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > > the patriots came close to pulling the upset, but the better team won
> > >
> > > On Feb 3, 2008 8:38 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread andrew strasfogel
I think Luther is a Pats fan...

On Feb 4, 2008 4:31 AM, Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> No offense, Gary, but you are really stupid at times.  Good job to NY for
> playing a better game than NE.
>
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>
>
> Quoting Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > the patriots came close to pulling the upset, but the better team won
> >
> > On Feb 3, 2008 8:38 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-04 Thread Luther
No offense, Gary, but you are really stupid at times.  Good job to NY for
playing a better game than NE. 

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Quoting Gary Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> the patriots came close to pulling the upset, but the better team won
>
> On Feb 3, 2008 8:38 PM, Hendrik & Fay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>



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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-03 Thread Gary Hurst
the patriots came close to pulling the upset, but the better team won

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> Is this off topic? hmmnh maybe, just maybe :-)
> BTW just days to go before the footy season kicks off over here, do you
> care? No. My team was in the grand final last year but got their behinds
> kicked by a record margin.
> The great thing about footy is that whether your team wins or loses you
> still get to drink beer ;-)
>
> Hendrik
> a mad Port Adelaide football fan
>
> Gary Hurst wrote:
> > if you pats fans think you are going to just keep up with freak luck and
> > pull the upset, i think you have another thing coming
> >
> > are there giants the greatest team of all time?  hmmm, maybe, just
> maybe.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] [OT][FOOTY] brady bunch getting beaten all over the field

2008-02-03 Thread Hendrik & Fay
Is this off topic? hmmnh maybe, just maybe :-)
BTW just days to go before the footy season kicks off over here, do you 
care? No. My team was in the grand final last year but got their behinds 
kicked by a record margin.
The great thing about footy is that whether your team wins or loses you 
still get to drink beer ;-)

Hendrik
a mad Port Adelaide football fan

Gary Hurst wrote:
> if you pats fans think you are going to just keep up with freak luck and
> pull the upset, i think you have another thing coming
>
> are there giants the greatest team of all time?  hmmm, maybe, just maybe.
>
>   

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