Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-04 Thread Tim C
On Oct 3, 2011 11:02 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 It appears to be directly beside the IP, between IP and engine, or on
underside of IP.

Someone once suggested putting baby powder in the engine compartment, then
you can see where it washes away.  You'd have to find a way to see the leak
in the driveway, though; not sure the baby powder would stay on a clean
engine in motion.  May be enough anyway.

Best,
Tim
...but if cocaine is cheaper, use that

 All of the injector fuel lines are dry, and no wetness around the
injectors.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net


 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:22 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


 Check the hoses to the fuel heater in the heater hose line at the  rear
of the driver's side.

 If you have not replaced the fuel lines, this would be a good time to  do
so.

 Peter

 On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, WILTON wrote:

 Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

 'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No
dripping before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout  5 min;
some wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now  I don't
remember if it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an  injector or fuel
line. 'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant,  but could've sworn that
I smelled fuel this morning.  This engine  and under hood, etc., has always
been very clean, 'specially for a  Diesel, but there's a bit of crud on
left side of engine in this  area now; 'need to wash it good and watch
closely.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: Russ Williams  rawil...@eatel.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


 It's Toast Wilton.
 I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

 Russ W.

 On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:

 Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little  better.
;))

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


 Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma  of
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and  engine near rear
of IP. Cursory look around injectors and  injector lines above the area did
not reveal anything else yet;  'check again with flashlight this afternoon.
Any suggestions  other than, Stop the leak?

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-04 Thread Dieselhead
Delivery valve orings, or if the top of the pump is absolutely dry, 
then the only other thing on the backside of the IP is the fuel 
return line.  That could leak at the hose or at the connection 
between the banjo fitting and the pump.




It appears to be directly beside the IP, between IP and engine, or 
on underside of IP.

All of the injector fuel lines are dry, and no wetness around the injectors.

Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-04 Thread Max Dillon
When the fuel thermostat o-ring failed on my '87, leak appeared to be from the 
bottom of the injection pump.  That is a common place for a fuel leak.
-- 
Max, 
Charleston SC

Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Delivery valve orings, or if the top of the pump is absolutely dry, 
then the only other thing on the backside of the IP is the fuel 
return line.  That could leak at the hose or at the connection 
between the banjo fitting and the pump.



It appears to be directly beside the IP, between IP and engine, or 
on underside of IP.
All of the injector fuel lines are dry, and no wetness around the
injectors.

Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread WILTON
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a flashlight 
and go out and see if can see something a little better.;))


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com

To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of Diesel 
fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine near rear of IP. 
Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above the area did not 
reveal anything else yet; 'check again with flashlight this afternoon. 
Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Russ Williams

It's Toast Wilton.
I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

Russ W.

On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a 
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little 
better.;))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of 
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine near 
rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above 
the area did not reveal anything else yet; 'check again with 
flashlight this afternoon. Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread WILTON

Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No dripping 
before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout 5 min; some 
wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now I don't remember if 
it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an injector or fuel line. 
'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant, but could've sworn that I 
smelled fuel this morning.  This engine and under hood, etc., has always 
been very clean, 'specially for a Diesel, but there's a bit of crud on 
left side of engine in this area now; 'need to wash it good and watch 
closely.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!



It's Toast Wilton.
I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

Russ W.

On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a 
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little better. 
;))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of 
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine near 
rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above the 
area did not reveal anything else yet; 'check again with flashlight this 
afternoon. Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Max Dillon
Fuel heater thermostat o-ring?
-- 
Max, 
Charleston SC

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine near
rear of IP.  Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above the
area did not reveal anything else yet; 'check again with flashlight
this afternoon.  Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Tim C
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 1:43 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

 'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No dripping
 before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout 5 min; some
 wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now I don't remember if
 it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an injector or fuel line.

On the SDL I had a line that corroded/broke against the injector, it
would expand as it heated just enough to drip, then stop after
cooling.  Of course that was obvious in mine because I bought it that
way, so I don't know how it first started.

For other leaks I've traced a chalk line of the car in the black
parking lot at work; makes it easy to see where the fluid is coming
out, at least.  Plus it gives my coworkers a chance to make fun of me
for doing a dead-body trace of my car. :)

Best,
-Tim

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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Max Dillon
I'd say a fuel line, either hard or rubber cloth covered.
-- 
Max, 
Charleston SC

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No
dripping 
before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout 5 min; some 
wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now I don't remember
if 
it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an injector or fuel line. 
'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant, but could've sworn that I 
smelled fuel this morning.  This engine and under hood, etc., has
always 
been very clean, 'specially for a Diesel, but there's a bit of crud
on 
left side of engine in this area now; 'need to wash it good and watch 
closely.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


 It's Toast Wilton.
 I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

 Russ W.

 On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
 Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a 
 flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little
better. 
 ;))

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


 Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of 
 Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine
near 
 rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above
the 
 area did not reveal anything else yet; 'check again with flashlight
this 
 afternoon. Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the hoses to the fuel heater in the heater hose line at the  
rear of the driver's side.


If you have not replaced the fuel lines, this would be a good time to  
do so.


Peter

On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, WILTON wrote:


Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No  
dripping before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout  
5 min; some wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now  
I don't remember if it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an  
injector or fuel line. 'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant,  
but could've sworn that I smelled fuel this morning.  This engine  
and under hood, etc., has always been very clean, 'specially for a  
Diesel, but there's a bit of crud on left side of engine in this  
area now; 'need to wash it good and watch closely.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Russ Williams  
rawil...@eatel.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!



It's Toast Wilton.
I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

Russ W.

On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a  
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little  
better. ;))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma  
of Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and  
engine near rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and  
injector lines above the area did not reveal anything else yet;  
'check again with flashlight this afternoon. Any suggestions  
other than, Stop the leak?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread Dieselhead
Most likely is a return hose.  Next most likely is the fuel heater. 
Also possible that an injector line is cracking, as mentioned. 
Generally they don't crack if all the clamps are in place.  I am sure 
you have maintained the clamps, So I discount that possibility.


Try holding the throttle so the engine runs around 3000 RPM for a 
while.  With a warm engine, you might see the leak.





I'd say a fuel line, either hard or rubber cloth covered.
--
Max,
Charleston SC

WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No
dripping
before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout 5 min; some
wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now I don't remember
if
it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an injector or fuel line.
'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant, but could've sworn that I
smelled fuel this morning.  This engine and under hood, etc., has
always
been very clean, 'specially for a Diesel, but there's a bit of crud
on
left side of engine in this area now; 'need to wash it good and watch
closely.


 Wilton


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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread WILTON

All the fuel lines Ive looked at so far around/near the injectors are dry.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!



I'd say a fuel line, either hard or rubber cloth covered.
--
Max, 
Charleston SC


WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No
dripping 
before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout 5 min; some 
wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now I don't remember
if 
it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an injector or fuel line. 
'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant, but could've sworn that I 
smelled fuel this morning.  This engine and under hood, etc., has
always 
been very clean, 'specially for a Diesel, but there's a bit of crud
on 
left side of engine in this area now; 'need to wash it good and watch 
closely.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!



It's Toast Wilton.
I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

Russ W.

On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a 
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little
better. 

;))

Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma of 
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and engine
near 

rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and injector lines above
the 

area did not reveal anything else yet; 'check again with flashlight
this 

afternoon. Any suggestions other than, Stop the leak?

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!

2011-10-03 Thread WILTON
It appears to be directly beside the IP, between IP and engine, or on 
underside of IP.

All of the injector fuel lines are dry, and no wetness around the injectors.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Check the hoses to the fuel heater in the heater hose line at the  rear of 
the driver's side.


If you have not replaced the fuel lines, this would be a good time to  do 
so.


Peter

On Oct 3, 2011, at 12:43 PM, WILTON wrote:


Yes, I know, 'preciate the thought.  ;)))

'Just took another look after it's been sitting coupla hours.  No 
dripping before I started it and no dripping as it idled for 'bout  5 
min; some wetness on side of head and around head bolt near (now  I don't 
remember if it was # 2 or # 3 injector), but NOT from an  injector or 
fuel line. 'Beginning to wonder if it might be coolant,  but could've 
sworn that I smelled fuel this morning.  This engine  and under hood, 
etc., has always been very clean, 'specially for a  Diesel, but there's a 
bit of crud on left side of engine in this  area now; 'need to wash it 
good and watch closely.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: Russ Williams  rawil...@eatel.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!



It's Toast Wilton.
I'll take it off your hands for Kaleb Price Plus 50 bucks. Grins

Russ W.

On 10/3/2011 11:39 AM, WILTON wrote:
Well, y'all haven't offered any magic answers yet, so I'll grab a 
flashlight and go out and see if can see something a little  better. 
;))


Wilton

- Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:21 AM
Subject: [MBZ] 124 fuel leak!


Getting into the 87 300D this morning, I noticed distinct aroma  of 
Diesel fuel; 'appears to be dripping from between IP and  engine near 
rear of IP. Cursory look around injectors and  injector lines above 
the area did not reveal anything else yet;  'check again with 
flashlight this afternoon. Any suggestions  other than, Stop the 
leak?


Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 124: fuel leak at manual shut-off valve

2006-10-19 Thread ned kleinhenz

 I noticed a small leak at the manual fuel shut-off on my E300D. It seeps
at
the valve stem.
Could that be a leaking o-ring at the filter or am I looking at replacing
the valve? 

Hans:
When I had that same problem, I learned that you have to replace valve.
Apparently the valve cannot be disassembled to replace the stem packing.

Ned Kleinhenz
'95 E300D x2
'85 300D
'80 300TD