Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
The Road and Track article on the 107 is at http://fly.hiwaay.net/~gbf/107/rt.html and is a good guide if you're interested in one. -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D 243K, Rattled '87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car '81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car '78 450SLC 67K, brown car '97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van Go
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
Personally, I'd opt for the Audi TT. Late model SLs don't seem all that sporty to me--neither Sport nor Leicht. The TT just has fun written all over it. Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler (212k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
On Mar 26, 2006, at 1:37 PM, redghost wrote: She was also considering an audi TT. Does anyone care to offer some advice? Bob DuPuy Give her what she wants. If she's anything like my Wife, she deserves it and more. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am
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Lots of ladies like the SLK. Even have a MBCA group dedicated to ladies in SLK. Their fearless leader live in town. On Wednesday, March 22, 2006, at 08:54 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. -- "There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies." -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
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the 300 cabriolet is nice On Wednesday, March 22, 2006, at 05:05 PM, Bob DuPuy wrote: I need a few opinions about a newer car for my wife. She is going to cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. She likes her 87 300D, but it needs more work than it makes sense to do with AC, paint, and suspension. She says she would like a roadster and since I don't know of a diesel one I was considering an early 90's SL, maybe a 300 or a 500. She was also considering an audi TT. Does anyone care to offer some advice? Bob DuPuy Parrish, FL ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
My Indy advised against buying an early 129, as there were many updates made throughout the line through the mid 90's, and the earlier parts are not available. You will be forced to buy the upgraded parts at a considerable expense over the original parts as designed. He recommended buying a later version, or if an earlier version, on on which the parts had already been upgraded. Regards, Rory Morrison Oroville, WA 1985 300SD 1982 300TD
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
humm, which one had the same V6 thats in the E320 sedan ? 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:03:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > I saw a SL320 on Ebay that claimed it had a V6. I've never had the > hood up on one, and that auction didn't have an under hood picture. Imagine that, an eBay seller that doesn't know what they're talking about! I'll shut up now, and go back to searching eBay for those elusive 8-cylinder diesel 300D's. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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Correct. And from 1998-up, the SL320 was not sold in the USA, only the SL500 and SL600. Overseas, the SL320 from approx 1999-up did indeed get the M112 6-cyl, but that was never sold in the USA. The M104 engine in the SL320 is a DOHC, inline-6, 24-valve engine. The 90-93 300SL got the M104.981 engine. :) -dm > -- > Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 09:45:55 -0500 > From: "James Zavesky" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > The SL320 ( 129.063 ) used the 104.991 engine which is an inline 6 produced > from 1994 to 1997. > > James Zavesky
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
The 320 6 cyl engines has ooodles of power in an E class for getting around. Under pwered for the SL. Deb constantly drives the 1995 E320 wagon with the 104.992 engine like it's a NASCAR event. Car performs well. Took away her driving priveledges in our 500SL. Our 1991 500SL has good balance to power. If possible try to get the 1996 and later years that has ODB2. The stealership employees are becoming less and less able and capable to work on the ODB1 systems reliably. Stay away from the 600SL series unless you have deep pockets and a high tolerance for pain. And don't get me started on the 2000-2002 S-Class with cylinder shutoff. Biodegradeable wiring is a blessing compared to these. James Zavesky 1991 500SL 1992 600SEL 1995 E320 - Original Message - From: "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > Thanks James, > I saw a SL320 on Ebay that claimed it had a V6. I've never had the > hood up on one, and that auction didn't have an under hood picture. > > Bob DuPuy > > On 3/24/06, James Zavesky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The SL320 ( 129.063 ) used the 104.991 engine which is an inline 6 produced > > from 1994 to 1997. > > > > James Zavesky > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:44 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > > > > > Thanks to everyone for the input. Are there significant differences in > > > the reliablity or the efficency between the V6 used in the SL320 and > > > the I6 in the 300SL? > > > > > > Bob DuPuy > > > > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
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I saw a SL320 on Ebay that claimed it had a V6. I've never had the hood up on one, and that auction didn't have an under hood picture. Imagine that, an eBay seller that doesn't know what they're talking about! I'll shut up now, and go back to searching eBay for those elusive 8-cylinder diesel 300D's. -- Jim
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
The SL320 ( 129.063 ) used the 104.991 engine which is an inline 6 produced from 1994 to 1997. James Zavesky - Original Message - From: "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 8:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > Thanks to everyone for the input. Are there significant differences in > the reliablity or the efficency between the V6 used in the SL320 and > the I6 in the 300SL? > > Bob DuPuy > > On 3/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nothing that I'm aware of other than some minor brake problems, warped rotors and eating brake pads > > they seem to be fairly normal in the reliabilty dept. Even with the 6 you'll still have plenty of power on hand somewhere around 200 I think and fun to drive > > > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > > > > I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with > > this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now > > between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Bob DuPuy > > > > > > On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your > > best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents > > though > > > > > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > > > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > > > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > > > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > > > > > > > One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or > > > something like that? > > > > > > On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > She is going to > > > > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. > > ___ > http://www.striplin.net > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net >
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Thanks to everyone for the input. Are there significant differences in the reliablity or the efficency between the V6 used in the SL320 and the I6 in the 300SL? Bob DuPuy On 3/24/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Nothing that I'm aware of other than some minor brake problems, warped rotors > and eating brake pads > they seem to be fairly normal in the reliabilty dept. Even with the 6 you'll > still have plenty of power on hand somewhere around 200 I think and fun to > drive > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > -Original Message- > From: Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with > this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now > between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? > > Thanks, > > Bob DuPuy > > > On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your > best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents > though > > > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > > > > -----Original Message- > > From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > > > > One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or > > something like that? > > > > On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > She is going to > > > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job.
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
Nothing that I'm aware of other than some minor brake problems, warped rotors and eating brake pads they seem to be fairly normal in the reliabilty dept. Even with the 6 you'll still have plenty of power on hand somewhere around 200 I think and fun to drive 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > -Original Message- > From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or > something like that? > > On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > She is going to > > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. > > > > > > ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
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Dave just reminded me of another point. My 95 SL320 had the bad wiring harness. Fortunately the car had been a Starmark car so the harness was replaced under warranty. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 httr,://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave M. Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 8:21 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? The SL320 / 300SL will have the M104 engine... nice motor, it has the usual issues with head gaskets like most of the M104's, don't think there's anything else major to worry about. The SL500 / 500SL will have the M119 engine, which is a real powerhouse... no major problems there, but usually due for a timing chain & rails by 150k (and it's not as easy or cheap to do as our old diesels). The M119 is a fairly expensive engine to maintain, though... not that the M104 is cheap, but the M119 is a notch above. The 500SL had mechanical (KE?) injection from 90-92 and then bumped up to the electronic LH injection starting in 1993, IIRC. If your wife doesn't care about power (and you don't either), I'd stick with the SL320. If one of you wants a *fast* car, get the SL500. Drive both and let us know how you like them! I'd love a late R129 SL500 'Silver Arrow' edition with the AMG Sport package. Mmmm. :-) -Dave M. > -- > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 > From: "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with > this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now > between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? > > Thanks, > > Bob DuPuy ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
The SL320 / 300SL will have the M104 engine... nice motor, it has the usual issues with head gaskets like most of the M104's, don't think there's anything else major to worry about. The SL500 / 500SL will have the M119 engine, which is a real powerhouse... no major problems there, but usually due for a timing chain & rails by 150k (and it's not as easy or cheap to do as our old diesels). The M119 is a fairly expensive engine to maintain, though... not that the M104 is cheap, but the M119 is a notch above. The 500SL had mechanical (KE?) injection from 90-92 and then bumped up to the electronic LH injection starting in 1993, IIRC. If your wife doesn't care about power (and you don't either), I'd stick with the SL320. If one of you wants a *fast* car, get the SL500. Drive both and let us know how you like them! I'd love a late R129 SL500 'Silver Arrow' edition with the AMG Sport package. Mmmm. :-) -Dave M. > -- > Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 06:05:28 -0500 > From: "Bob DuPuy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with > this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now > between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? > > Thanks, > > Bob DuPuy
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I had a 1995 SL320 and subsequently a 1997 SL500. The eight cylinder gets slightly better gas mileage. The V8 car gets 18mpg city and 25mpg highway. In the process of looking at one time I drove a manual SL300. I felt it was a little doggy; but then I didn't have enough time with it to really get used to the car. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bob DuPuy Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 5:05 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I like the 300SL from around 93. Are there any known problems with this car, or that engine? There is not a huge price difference now between the 300 and the 500 is the 500 engine more troublesome? Thanks, Bob DuPuy On 3/22/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your > best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents > though > > 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles > 72 350SL 108,000 Miles > 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion > 1999 Mazda Miata > > > -Original Message- > From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 > Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? > > > One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or > something like that? > > On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > She is going to > > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. > > > > > >
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
I'd stay away from the Z3 or Z4 cause they are riddled with problems. Your best bet is a 300SL or even a SLK 230 or maybe even a 320. Just my 2 cents though 69 280 SEL 120,000 Miles 72 350SL 108,000 Miles 2004 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata -Original Message- From: LT Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:50:26 -0600 Subject: Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey? One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She is going to > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. > -- "There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies." -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com
Re: [MBZ] An SL for wifey?
One of the new BMW two-seat drop-tops? What are they called, the Z4 or something like that? On 3/22/06, Bob DuPuy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > She is going to > cut back on her volunteer work and take a corporate attorney job. > -- "There're always enemies, George. Jesus had enemies." -- Tom Clancy, _Executive Orders_ 1977 240D 1983 VW Quantum turbo diesel 5-speed 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
