Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Do you happen to remember what that lost title place was called? Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Those title places are over $800 now Sent from my iPhone On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
georgia is the same way. someone has to pay all the back taxes or the car doesn't get on the road On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
No, but if you look on sites like Hemmings you'll find all kinds of ads for them. Lots of people with built up hot rods or vintage cars that are barn finds use the services. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 9:35 AM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: Do you happen to remember what that lost title place was called? Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Bill Wachsmuth was willing to help me but the timing was bad. He said that if you went to one of the non-State places that could do title work, like AAA, and you were a customer, that they could often get a lot of the old stuff tossed out and allow you to get a registration for much less. I just couldn't justify a trip to CA to sort it all out. Trying to deal with their DMV remotely was a nightmare in itself. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:41 AM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote: georgia is the same way. someone has to pay all the back taxes or the car doesn't get on the road On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote: California is worse. When I bought my 1962 300SE it was part of an estate and had not been on the road for 3-4 years. In order for me to gain title to the car they expected me to pay all of the registration fees for the missing years before I could take title of the car. The estate attorney pretty much told me I was up a proverbial creek, as they weren't going to pay the fees. In fairness to him he did write a very legal bill of sale so I had something to show ownership. I ended up telling the CA DMV to bite me and went to one of the lost title places in Alabama, I believe. Very quick and smooth process, cost me under $200 at the time and was done in a day via FedEx. I wasn't keen about this approach as it broke the chain of the car's history, but I wasn't about to be held up by the CA DMV for close to two grand, either. Dan On Jul 31, 2013, at 8:42 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: PS: Good luck in Michigan. They have the worst dmv I have ever dealt with. There is litterally NO way to recover lost paperwork if there is no info in their system. Mike On Jul 31, 2013 8:38 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: For older cars that have not been registered in several years many states purge the records after so many years. In other words, when you go in and fill out the statement of ownership and a lost title form and they look in the records the only documentation they have is what you have provided them so they either ask for vin verification or simply give you the title in your name. Here in the Vampire state anyway. Obviously won't help with this car but maybe some others. Mike On Jul 30, 2013 5:03 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars * *www.BuyEUROparts.com* ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Have the seller apply for a duplicate title before completing the purchase. Much easier for the current owner to get a duplicate title issued than go through all the pain of trying to buy a car without a title. Indiana has a similar convoluted process... http://www.in.gov/bmv/2957.htm If seller can't do this, I'd move on. There are too many legitimate cars for sale than to bother with ones that don't have the basic documentation in order. Allan Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com writes: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... -- Allan Streib ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Darren rote: From what I can tell, in Illinois... About 12 years ago I did something like this here in IL. I don't remember if I had title or not, but, I recall having to ask for one of the local State Police guys to stop by and verify the VIN on a form and mailed that in to receive title - something like that. I had bill of sale. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
I have no experience in IL, but every state has a process for this. NJ has a similar one that takes a long time and is very cumbersome. But its possible. If you go for it, follow all the rules exactly. Kaleb... don't you have a lot of contacts at local dealers? Dealerships generally have people who know how to work the system and make title problems disappear. Jaime On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Oh I can do it or get it done but it's still a pain. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I have no experience in IL, but every state has a process for this. NJ has a similar one that takes a long time and is very cumbersome. But its possible. If you go for it, follow all the rules exactly. Kaleb... don't you have a lot of contacts at local dealers? Dealerships generally have people who know how to work the system and make title problems disappear. Jaime On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
I wonder if the (nice, obliging) brother can just title transfer directly you to? Darren 312-208-4328 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... I got the Frankenheap titled and registered to me, via WA's abandoned vehicle mechanism. It took some time, but only cost me the price of a registered letter to the PO of record, (returned unopened), and the mandatory State inspection for out-of-state cars. (Last registered in CA.) Took some time, though. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
I thought about that but let's just say I picked the car up in a trailer park, not really the kind of people I want to fool with. This car seems to run just fine and interior is nice but it's got the Illinois surface rust on every panel and will either sell it as a cheap runner or part it out. It's borderline. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if the (nice, obliging) brother can just title transfer directly you to? Darren 312-208-4328 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anyone ever successfully obtain a title by surety bond in Illinois?
Right, it's these awkward random scenarios that put cars in la la land... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com On Jul 30, 2013, at 9:26 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I thought about that but let's just say I picked the car up in a trailer park, not really the kind of people I want to fool with. This car seems to run just fine and interior is nice but it's got the Illinois surface rust on every panel and will either sell it as a cheap runner or part it out. It's borderline. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 7:12 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if the (nice, obliging) brother can just title transfer directly you to? Darren 312-208-4328 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: I bought a 97 s420 a couple of weeks ago with a il title, I got the title but the owner on the title signed it over to his brother who I bought it from, so it's got his name in as the buyer etc but he never registered it here. I am trying to figure out what to do if I want to mess with it or just part it out. I can do go thru the title 42 process here, but trying to figure out an easier way. Those title places online have shot up in price. Used to be 2-300 now it's 800 and up. Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 PM, Darren Marshall onecreat...@gmail.com wrote: I certainly understand the risks of paying for a car and not receiving a title, but geeking out here... in doing research it seems there are cases when this can work out. From what I can tell, in Illinois, if a title is lost, and a duplicate title can't be furnished (for whatever reason) it's possible to obtain a title and register a vehicle... so long as 1.) the car does not show up hot 2.) there are no liens 3.) you have a bill of sale 4.) you have a written appraisal of the wholesale value by a licensed dealer 5.) you obtain a surety bond for 1-1/2 times the appraised value 6.) you have the patience to wait 6-12 weeks for the process with the state to start and end. Anyone here ever go through this entirely? Seems like there are an absurd number of cars floating in la la land ... Darren Marshall http://doejo.com http://bowtruss.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
