Re: [MBZ] Auctions - Was "This is Sort of Cool"

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Good to know, Kevin, thanks!

I used to stay at a hotel in the Ginza, which if you’re not familiar with 
Tokyo, is a large business and entertainment district near downtown. There were 
loads of pachinko “parlors” and karaoke bars, very popular with businessmen. 
Pachislo games had not been developed yet at that time, so I’ve never see one 
in the “wild."

And yes, they are very noisy, which seems to be the preference. Lights, noises, 
etc., all seem to be a big attraction in that culture.

I found it amusing that one of the biggest issues I saw when researching the 
Pachislo games was how to lower the volume on them. A lot of people not 
familiar with how these were originally used don’t understand that the noise 
levels in these places can be deafening, so the only way to stand out to get 
played is to be the loudest one on the block, so to speak.

I need to go out and change the odds on mine, as it’s presently set at the 
lowest setting, which is about an 80% payout, I think. The most liberal setting 
is around 110%-115% payout.

The machine I have is a Yamasa, who seems to be one of the more popular 
manufacturers. There is still little on these that goes into any detail on the 
Web. I’ve found a forum that covers them, but again, not a lot of information 
there.

-D

> On Jun 27, 2024, at 7:51 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Nice find!! Pachislo and Pachinko machines are a lot of fun! A few years ago, 
> I was really into the older, all mechanical, Pachinko machines. At one point, 
> I had six plus two more that had the electronic ball launchers. I had one 
> Sankyo, and all the rest were Nishijin machines. A couple of them going at 
> once generates quite a cacophony! I’m down to one 1972 Nishijin model A 
> recycler. They are referred to as recyclers since they have a ball tray in 
> the middle where all launched balls go, and when there’s a payoff, you get 
> them back in your tray to launch again. There’s a top ball tray to feed more 
> balls when this tray runs low, and an overflow bin at the bottom when the 
> middle tray is full. Most of the time, it takes quite a while to require 
> lifting balls from the bottom to refill the top tray, so the middle tray gets 
> recycled over and over. There are no electronics in this machine, and like a 
> Mercedes Diesel, maintenance will keep it going forever.
> Kevin in Lexington, NC
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 10:19 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I wasn’t sure if it could or not, haven’t had a chance to look into it.
>> 
>> Just been playing it and having fun for now.
>> 
>> Happy Happy, Joy Joy, you big winner!!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 27, 2024, at 6:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Google can translate pics of the Japanese characters
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Got a perfect case in point today that just happened to work out for me:
>> 
>> I have a search set up in FBM for pinball machines. I don’t expect any hits 
>> based on where I am, but you never know…
>> 
>> There was a listing for a Japanese “Pachislo” machine that had been around 
>> for some time with a price of $95. These are electronic slot machines 
>> without the arm, and what came after Pachinko sort of fell out of favor - 
>> mainly because these machines could give you a seizure with all the stuff 
>> going on, much like a Japanese vending machine, if you’ve ever seen one.
>> 
>> Anyway, I see it’s still there, so I reach out to her and ask her what her 
>> bottom dollar is, and that I'm a pinball guy but mildly interested.
>> 
>> She messages me back and says she’ll take $25 for it. I asked when I could 
>> come get it. She was out in the boondocks east of town, but it was a nice 
>> drive and good way to see some scenery. She had a big place with a lot of 
>> dogs. Showed it to me, I looked it over, gave her the $25 and we loaded it 
>> up in the ML550.
>> 
>> Got it home, did a factory reset on it, and it’s working like it’s brand new 
>> once again. Now if I could only find a way to interpret all of the Japanese 
>> that’s on it…
>> 
>> It did happen, here is a picture:
>> 
>> [cid:dc2f904f-ab4a-4bf3-952c-1567676feaec@namprd07.prod.outlook.com]
>> 
>> 
>> Not a lot of information on these out there. I found a few manuals on Scribd 
>> I’ll be poring over tonight.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. The “Best Offer” thing is actually pretty nice, as you can plug in 
>> different amounts and get feedback on whether or not it’s likely to be 
>> accepted. I’ve done this a fair amount of time with used auto parts.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I admit to have sniped at times on ebay.  I much prefer Buy it Now/best
>> offer auctions.
>> 

Re: [MBZ] Auctions - Was "This is Sort of Cool"

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Nice find!! Pachislo and Pachinko machines are a lot of fun! A few years ago, I 
was really into the older, all mechanical, Pachinko machines. At one point, I 
had six plus two more that had the electronic ball launchers. I had one Sankyo, 
and all the rest were Nishijin machines. A couple of them going at once 
generates quite a cacophony! I’m down to one 1972 Nishijin model A recycler. 
They are referred to as recyclers since they have a ball tray in the middle 
where all launched balls go, and when there’s a payoff, you get them back in 
your tray to launch again. There’s a top ball tray to feed more balls when this 
tray runs low, and an overflow bin at the bottom when the middle tray is full. 
Most of the time, it takes quite a while to require lifting balls from the 
bottom to refill the top tray, so the middle tray gets recycled over and over. 
There are no electronics in this machine, and like a Mercedes Diesel, 
maintenance will keep it going forever.
Kevin in Lexington, NC
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 27, 2024, at 10:19 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I wasn’t sure if it could or not, haven’t had a chance to look into it.
> 
> Just been playing it and having fun for now.
> 
> Happy Happy, Joy Joy, you big winner!!
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 27, 2024, at 6:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Google can translate pics of the Japanese characters
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Got a perfect case in point today that just happened to work out for me:
> 
> I have a search set up in FBM for pinball machines. I don’t expect any hits 
> based on where I am, but you never know…
> 
> There was a listing for a Japanese “Pachislo” machine that had been around 
> for some time with a price of $95. These are electronic slot machines without 
> the arm, and what came after Pachinko sort of fell out of favor - mainly 
> because these machines could give you a seizure with all the stuff going on, 
> much like a Japanese vending machine, if you’ve ever seen one.
> 
> Anyway, I see it’s still there, so I reach out to her and ask her what her 
> bottom dollar is, and that I'm a pinball guy but mildly interested.
> 
> She messages me back and says she’ll take $25 for it. I asked when I could 
> come get it. She was out in the boondocks east of town, but it was a nice 
> drive and good way to see some scenery. She had a big place with a lot of 
> dogs. Showed it to me, I looked it over, gave her the $25 and we loaded it up 
> in the ML550.
> 
> Got it home, did a factory reset on it, and it’s working like it’s brand new 
> once again. Now if I could only find a way to interpret all of the Japanese 
> that’s on it…
> 
> It did happen, here is a picture:
> 
> [cid:dc2f904f-ab4a-4bf3-952c-1567676feaec@namprd07.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> Not a lot of information on these out there. I found a few manuals on Scribd 
> I’ll be poring over tonight.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Agreed. The “Best Offer” thing is actually pretty nice, as you can plug in 
> different amounts and get feedback on whether or not it’s likely to be 
> accepted. I’ve done this a fair amount of time with used auto parts.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I admit to have sniped at times on ebay.  I much prefer Buy it Now/best
> offer auctions.
> 
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:42 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> The *only* times I've been able to win eBay auctions (and similar sites
> where the auctions end at a fixed time) are by sniping. It seems there's
> always someone willing to pay more to "win."
> 
> I don't really participate in online auctions very often, so my experience
> may not be a truly representative experience, but I've never won one by
> just putting in a max bid and waiting passively to see what happens.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 11:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Very common. The “You’re not going to beat me!!” seems to come up at
> nearly every public auction I’ve been to in the past. Stupid behavior,
> it ends up costing everyone more and just makes the winner a loser
> relative to the value of what they’re bidding on. Just like the dummies
> in online auctions that “reset” when a bid is placed in the final
> minutes. What’s the point in waiting until the last second, unless
> you’re on eBay and you’re purposely sniping?
> 
> But then again, there are a lot of stupid people out there…
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Auctions - Was "This is Sort of Cool"

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I wasn’t sure if it could or not, haven’t had a chance to look into it.

Just been playing it and having fun for now.

Happy Happy, Joy Joy, you big winner!!

-D

On Jun 27, 2024, at 6:49 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Google can translate pics of the Japanese characters

--FT
Sent from iFōn

On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Got a perfect case in point today that just happened to work out for me:

I have a search set up in FBM for pinball machines. I don’t expect any hits 
based on where I am, but you never know…

There was a listing for a Japanese “Pachislo” machine that had been around for 
some time with a price of $95. These are electronic slot machines without the 
arm, and what came after Pachinko sort of fell out of favor - mainly because 
these machines could give you a seizure with all the stuff going on, much like 
a Japanese vending machine, if you’ve ever seen one.

Anyway, I see it’s still there, so I reach out to her and ask her what her 
bottom dollar is, and that I'm a pinball guy but mildly interested.

She messages me back and says she’ll take $25 for it. I asked when I could come 
get it. She was out in the boondocks east of town, but it was a nice drive and 
good way to see some scenery. She had a big place with a lot of dogs. Showed it 
to me, I looked it over, gave her the $25 and we loaded it up in the ML550.

Got it home, did a factory reset on it, and it’s working like it’s brand new 
once again. Now if I could only find a way to interpret all of the Japanese 
that’s on it…

It did happen, here is a picture:

[cid:dc2f904f-ab4a-4bf3-952c-1567676feaec@namprd07.prod.outlook.com]


Not a lot of information on these out there. I found a few manuals on Scribd 
I’ll be poring over tonight.

-D




On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Agreed. The “Best Offer” thing is actually pretty nice, as you can plug in 
different amounts and get feedback on whether or not it’s likely to be 
accepted. I’ve done this a fair amount of time with used auto parts.

-D

On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I admit to have sniped at times on ebay.  I much prefer Buy it Now/best
offer auctions.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:42 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The *only* times I've been able to win eBay auctions (and similar sites
where the auctions end at a fixed time) are by sniping. It seems there's
always someone willing to pay more to "win."

I don't really participate in online auctions very often, so my experience
may not be a truly representative experience, but I've never won one by
just putting in a max bid and waiting passively to see what happens.


On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 11:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
Very common. The “You’re not going to beat me!!” seems to come up at
nearly every public auction I’ve been to in the past. Stupid behavior,
it ends up costing everyone more and just makes the winner a loser
relative to the value of what they’re bidding on. Just like the dummies
in online auctions that “reset” when a bid is placed in the final
minutes. What’s the point in waiting until the last second, unless
you’re on eBay and you’re purposely sniping?

But then again, there are a lot of stupid people out there…

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Re: [MBZ] Auctions - Was "This is Sort of Cool"

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Google can translate pics of the Japanese characters 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Jun 26, 2024, at 7:45 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Got a perfect case in point today that just happened to work out for me:
> 
> I have a search set up in FBM for pinball machines. I don’t expect any hits 
> based on where I am, but you never know…
> 
> There was a listing for a Japanese “Pachislo” machine that had been around 
> for some time with a price of $95. These are electronic slot machines without 
> the arm, and what came after Pachinko sort of fell out of favor - mainly 
> because these machines could give you a seizure with all the stuff going on, 
> much like a Japanese vending machine, if you’ve ever seen one.
> 
> Anyway, I see it’s still there, so I reach out to her and ask her what her 
> bottom dollar is, and that I'm a pinball guy but mildly interested.
> 
> She messages me back and says she’ll take $25 for it. I asked when I could 
> come get it. She was out in the boondocks east of town, but it was a nice 
> drive and good way to see some scenery. She had a big place with a lot of 
> dogs. Showed it to me, I looked it over, gave her the $25 and we loaded it up 
> in the ML550.
> 
> Got it home, did a factory reset on it, and it’s working like it’s brand new 
> once again. Now if I could only find a way to interpret all of the Japanese 
> that’s on it…
> 
> It did happen, here is a picture:
> 
> [cid:dc2f904f-ab4a-4bf3-952c-1567676feaec@namprd07.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> Not a lot of information on these out there. I found a few manuals on Scribd 
> I’ll be poring over tonight.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 26, 2024, at 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Agreed. The “Best Offer” thing is actually pretty nice, as you can plug in 
>> different amounts and get feedback on whether or not it’s likely to be 
>> accepted. I’ve done this a fair amount of time with used auto parts.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jun 26, 2024, at 9:14 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I admit to have sniped at times on ebay.  I much prefer Buy it Now/best
>>> offer auctions.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 26, 2024 at 11:42 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 The *only* times I've been able to win eBay auctions (and similar sites
 where the auctions end at a fixed time) are by sniping. It seems there's
 always someone willing to pay more to "win."
 
 I don't really participate in online auctions very often, so my experience
 may not be a truly representative experience, but I've never won one by
 just putting in a max bid and waiting passively to see what happens.
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2024, at 11:17, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Very common. The “You’re not going to beat me!!” seems to come up at
> nearly every public auction I’ve been to in the past. Stupid behavior,
> it ends up costing everyone more and just makes the winner a loser
> relative to the value of what they’re bidding on. Just like the dummies
> in online auctions that “reset” when a bid is placed in the final
> minutes. What’s the point in waiting until the last second, unless
> you’re on eBay and you’re purposely sniping?
> 
> But then again, there are a lot of stupid people out there…
 
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