Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-09-01 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote:
> Now the guys sell it at the docks at Fishermans Terminal in Ballard.  No need 
> for a ferry, just snag an Uber.  Bring a cooler

Uber - nah, ain't connected.  Seattle side? - no need.  Family in
Kitsap County is more friendly than Ballard... maybe.  Pricing today
is whack.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-31 Thread clay via Mercedes
Now the guys sell it at the docks at Fishermans Terminal in Ballard.  No need 
for a ferry, just snag an Uber.  Bring a cooler

clay

> On Aug 31, 2016, at 8:55 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> clay wrote:
>> ...Like the fish the mongers toss at the Pike Place Market.
> 
> I usta go to KBFI (boeing field) and ferry over to Poulsbo to purchase
> frozen at sea line-caught-alaska salmon.  Nothing compares.  I rode as
> "self-loadable-cargo" in lear35 in those days.  Excellent memories!
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-31 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
> No worries.  Boise is a YUGE D stronghold.

Do members of the "YUGE D stronghold" wear holey undies? ... like people in SLC?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-31 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
clay wrote:
> ...Like the fish the mongers toss at the Pike Place Market.

I usta go to KBFI (boeing field) and ferry over to Poulsbo to purchase
frozen at sea line-caught-alaska salmon.  Nothing compares.  I rode as
"self-loadable-cargo" in lear35 in those days.  Excellent memories!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No worries.  Boise is a YUGE D stronghold.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did your lib card get revoked upon your return to DC?  Or is what happens
> in Boise stays in Boise?
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 8/30/16 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> So I was in Boise last week and went into a Wally World near the hotel I
>> was staying at.
>>
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Did your lib card get revoked upon your return to DC?  Or is what 
happens in Boise stays in Boise?


--FT


On 8/30/16 11:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

So I was in Boise last week and went into a Wally World near the hotel I
was staying at.


--
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm not arguing with that.

On Aug 30, 2016 3:08 PM, "clay via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Most of the stored fruit is junk.  What I was pushing was farm stand fruit
> shipped your way.   Like the fish the mongers toss at the Pike Place
> Market.   There are other stands that have lesser quality produce that I do
> not recommend.   Grocery store fruit is junk.
>
> clay
>
>
> > On Aug 30, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > In spite of rain and humidity in the 90% range, the cardboard carolina
> peaches I threw on the compost pile are so dry they are not rotting after 5
> days in the pile.  The cardboard peaches must have been plasticised with
> something that is not natural.
> >
> > Sorry Clay, I make it a point to AVOID the tasteless PNW fruit.  A real
> Red Delicious grown in its native turf, or in New Zealand taste great.  The
> same cultivar grown in the PNW is pretty but has NO flavor.  Those peaches
> may be juicy if picked ripe, but the lack of flavor will make them a looser.
> >
> > The good news:  the local store had more Missouri peaches in this week,
> so I bought a bunch.  Mmmm.
> >
> >> clay via Mercedes 
> >> August 30, 2016 at 1:25 AM
> >> https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com
> >>
> >> Try these guys. They might ship to you. They have very high quality
> peaches and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch three
> boxes a few days before she flies down (on her broom) to can them up.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> >> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
> >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread clay via Mercedes
Most of the stored fruit is junk.  What I was pushing was farm stand fruit 
shipped your way.   Like the fish the mongers toss at the Pike Place Market.   
There are other stands that have lesser quality produce that I do not 
recommend.   Grocery store fruit is junk.  

clay


> On Aug 30, 2016, at 8:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> In spite of rain and humidity in the 90% range, the cardboard carolina 
> peaches I threw on the compost pile are so dry they are not rotting after 5 
> days in the pile.  The cardboard peaches must have been plasticised with 
> something that is not natural.
> 
> Sorry Clay, I make it a point to AVOID the tasteless PNW fruit.  A real Red 
> Delicious grown in its native turf, or in New Zealand taste great.  The same 
> cultivar grown in the PNW is pretty but has NO flavor.  Those peaches may be 
> juicy if picked ripe, but the lack of flavor will make them a looser.
> 
> The good news:  the local store had more Missouri peaches in this week, so I 
> bought a bunch.  Mmmm.
> 
>> clay via Mercedes 
>> August 30, 2016 at 1:25 AM
>> https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com
>> 
>> Try these guys. They might ship to you. They have very high quality peaches 
>> and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch three boxes a few 
>> days before she flies down (on her broom) to can them up.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Put up or shut up:  send us a link to a MO orchard that ships peaches so we
can be the judges.

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In spite of rain and humidity in the 90% range, the cardboard carolina
> peaches I threw on the compost pile are so dry they are not rotting after 5
> days in the pile.  The cardboard peaches must have been plasticised with
> something that is not natural.
>
> Sorry Clay, I make it a point to AVOID the tasteless PNW fruit.  A real
> Red Delicious grown in its native turf, or in New Zealand taste great.  The
> same cultivar grown in the PNW is pretty but has NO flavor.  Those peaches
> may be juicy if picked ripe, but the lack of flavor will make them a looser.
>
> The good news:  the local store had more Missouri peaches in this week, so
> I bought a bunch.  Mmmm.
>
> clay via Mercedes 
>> August 30, 2016 at 1:25 AM
>> https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com
>>
>> Try these guys. They might ship to you. They have very high quality
>> peaches and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch three
>> boxes a few days before she flies down (on her broom) to can them up.
>>
>>
>>
>> clay
>>
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
In spite of rain and humidity in the 90% range, the cardboard carolina 
peaches I threw on the compost pile are so dry they are not rotting 
after 5 days in the pile.  The cardboard peaches must have been 
plasticised with something that is not natural.


Sorry Clay, I make it a point to AVOID the tasteless PNW fruit.  A real 
Red Delicious grown in its native turf, or in New Zealand taste great.  
The same cultivar grown in the PNW is pretty but has NO flavor.  Those 
peaches may be juicy if picked ripe, but the lack of flavor will make 
them a looser.


The good news:  the local store had more Missouri peaches in this week, 
so I bought a bunch.  Mmmm.



clay via Mercedes 
August 30, 2016 at 1:25 AM
https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com

Try these guys. They might ship to you. They have very high quality 
peaches and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch 
three boxes a few days before she flies down (on her broom) to can 
them up.




clay

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1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers




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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Nothing on the web site about shipping.

So I was in Boise last week and went into a Wally World near the hotel I
was staying at.  Lo and behold, they had large bins of  LOCAL IDAHO PRODUCE
super cheap, along with B.C. and Washington State cherries!!  I checked
around and no one else had any fresh cherries from anywhere.  I packed away
two large bags of the WA and BC fruit in my checked luggage - plus about 5
lbs. of ID potatoes and sweet and red onions - and brought them home.  My
opinion of WM may be evolving...

Andrew

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 2:25 AM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com
>
> Try these guys.  They might ship to you.  They have very high quality
> peaches and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch three
> boxes a few days before she flies down (on her broom) to can them up.
>
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples,
> peaches, plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were
> always best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> >
> > Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely dry
> cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> elbow, where it ran off.
> >
> > Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> >
> > Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else
> they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina peaches.
> >
> > WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a bone
> , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
> >
> > Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.
> Nowhere near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
> >
> > So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> >
> > If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!   I'd
> usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> stuff!
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-30 Thread clay via Mercedes
https://redskyorchards.wordpress.com

Try these guys.  They might ship to you.  They have very high quality peaches 
and SWMBA makes me drive the 200 mile round trip to fetch three boxes a few 
days before she flies down (on her broom) to can them up.  



clay 

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








> On Aug 27, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
> plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always 
> best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> 
> Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely dry 
> cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach 
> would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the 
> elbow, where it ran off.
> 
> Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
> identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> 
> Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When the 
> store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else they 
> had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina peaches.
> 
> WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!  Terrible!  
> Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a bone , hard and 
> had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some turned brown 
> inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse than those awful 
> CO peaches I tried in HI!
> 
> Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere 
> near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are tolerable.   
> I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery stores.  It has to be 
> people who have never tasted a real peach.
> 
> So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> 
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I made 
> it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The sheeple are 
> so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so all the "cherry" 
> products may be made with real cherries, but they are flavored with 
> maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to make an awful glop. 
>   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!   I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb 
> of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD stuff!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curley wrote:
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless...

Try this when your wallet is fat:
http://www.edenfoods.com/store/cherry-butter-montmorency-tart-organic.html
It is an occasional purchase for me.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes




Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 11:08 AM
We send all that stuff to PA!

NJ is 4th for peach production 2015:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/193929/top-10-peach-producing-us-states/


On Sunday, August 28, 2016, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A local farmer's market is always the best place to buy fruit and veg. Get 
stuff that was picked ripe and recent...

Curt

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  On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:00 AM, WILTON via Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
wrote:   The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!  NORTH 
Carolina. 
;<)

In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have been 
worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or somewhere else 
foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not to waste my money on 
that crap.

W

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches


> The peaches this year have been great.
>
> --R (sent from my miniPad)
>
> On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
> plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always 
> best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
>
> Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely 
> dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO 
> peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to 
> the elbow, where it ran off.
>
> Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
> identification.  But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
>
> Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When 
> the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else 
> they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina 
> peaches.
>
> WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor! 
> Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
> bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften 
> some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even 
> worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
>
> Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere 
> near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are 
> tolerable.  I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery 
> stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
>
> So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
>
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I 
> made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.  The 
> sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so 
> all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are 
> flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to 
> make an awful glop.  Eating the cherries right in the tree was best! 
> I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.  That was 
> GOOOD stuff!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Well just to placate y'all I peeled and sliced 2 Salkerlina peaches for 
my Sunday brunch and I can report they were sweet and juicy and had an 
excellent flavor.


I made some breakfast tacos with some fresh corn tortillas I bought from 
some girl at the farmers market yesterday, she started a little business 
grinding fresh corn and making the tortillas.  They are really tasty.


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
We send all that stuff to PA!

NJ is 4th for peach production 2015:
http://www.statista.com/statistics/193929/top-10-peach-producing-us-states/


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> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>
> >
> > NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden
> state,
> > after all.
> >
>
> Only because "Toxic Waste Dump Site State"  doesn't fit on a licence
> plate.  3:)
>
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
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>
> NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> after all.
>

Only because "Toxic Waste Dump Site State"  doesn't fit on a licence
plate.  3:)

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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
My neighbor who has the farmstand at the end of my driveway goes to the 
farmer's market in Columbia a coupla times a week to get stuff that 
doesn't/won't grow here (tomatoes are now past here, 2nd crop coming 
later, so he's getting them from NC now I think) and picks up peaches 
which come from SC orchards, or maybe NC now, so they are fairly fresh 
off the trees, and probably get here within 2-3 days of picking.  Lately 
the peaches have been those big ones, and not entirely ripe, but they 
ripen up OK in a coupla days in a paper bag.  The first ones this year 
were right off the trees in SC and have been wonderful.


--FT


On 8/28/16 10:17 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

The crap peaches here were from NORTH carolina!

Unfortunately, grocery distribution systems don't care if the crap 
they sell is any good.   The bean counters only look at "shrink" and 
margins.   Any peach worth eating will have some bruising, but the 
bean counters can;t have that.  On occasion, if you deal in good 
peaches,  you will get some that don't keep well and have to be thrown 
out.  The grocery mentality can't handle that.


The problem is really not the source, but the grocery mentality. I 
just wanted to razz y'all NORTH and SOUTH Carolinians!


If you find a grocery store that has GOOD peaches, you have found a 
GOOD produce manager and a good store system that lets the store buy 
peaches and other perishables directly from the grower/trucker.  The 
BAD/normal system forces them to buy the warehouse crap, and there is 
never a good peach that goes through the grocery warehouse.



WILTON via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM
The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year! NORTH 
Carolina. ;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that 
have been worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or 
somewhere else foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not 
to waste my money on that crap.


W


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

The crap peaches here were from NORTH carolina!

Unfortunately, grocery distribution systems don't care if the crap they 
sell is any good.   The bean counters only look at "shrink" and 
margins.   Any peach worth eating will have some bruising, but the bean 
counters can;t have that.  On occasion, if you deal in good peaches,  
you will get some that don't keep well and have to be thrown out.  The 
grocery mentality can't handle that.


The problem is really not the source, but the grocery mentality.   I 
just wanted to razz y'all NORTH and SOUTH Carolinians!


If you find a grocery store that has GOOD peaches, you have found a GOOD 
produce manager and a good store system that lets the store buy peaches 
and other perishables directly from the grower/trucker.  The BAD/normal 
system forces them to buy the warehouse crap, and there is never a good 
peach that goes through the grocery warehouse.



WILTON via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 9:00 AM
The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!   NORTH 
Carolina. ;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have 
been worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or 
somewhere else foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not 
to waste my money on that crap.


W


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
The peaches here have been absolutely fantastic this year!   NORTH Carolina. 
;<)


In years past, though, I have bought some (usually at Sam's) that have been 
worthless - hard, tasteless, etc.  Musta been from CA or somewhere else 
foreign.  'Have been especially careful this year not to waste my money on 
that crap.


W

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The peaches this year have been great.

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On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always 
best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.


Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely 
dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO 
peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to 
the elbow, where it ran off.


Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.


Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When 
the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else 
they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina 
peaches.


WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor! 
Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften 
some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even 
worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!


Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere 
near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are 
tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery 
stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.


So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!

If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I 
made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The 
sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so 
all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are 
flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to 
make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best! 
I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was 
GOOOD stuff!


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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Jaaaja peaches may be ok if you get them tree ripened at the orchard, 
but west of the Mississippi, they are garbage.  Very few stores even 
bother to stock them.


The problem with  everything in the grocery store is that it is picked 
too green, unless it is a fruit or vegetable that keeps well, like 
radishes or carrots.


Peaches are the most delicate fruit to ship, but they can be picked, 
packed and shipped with minimal bruising.  They can't be stored too 
cold.  A normal cooler is too cold.   The state health dept won't let 
you run a cooler at the proper temp for peaches, so they are mishandled 
once they get to a store.  Generally, the peach needs to be sold within 
a week of picking, and the grocery warehouse/distribution systems don't 
move that fast.


The MO peaches we get are hauled from the orchards to the store.  No 
warehouse.  The truck comes through once or twice a week, so they stay 
fresh, with minimal losses.   Most of the MO peaches are grown in the 
bootheel, so the trip is about 500 -600 miles.  one day's drive, then 
they go into store stops for probably 2-3 days.  You can get in about 20 
store deliveries in a day.


Joisey peaches?   You gotta be kidding!  no way! not here!


archer75--- via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:33 AM
Surprisingly, no one has mentioned Georgia Peaches which are the world 
standard for taste and other qualities. Georgia Peach Wine always 
takes first prize at wine tastings. Supposedly eating Georgia peaches 
is the reason Georgia women are some of the most beautiful in the 
world. It's why they are often called "Georgia Peaches".

Gerry

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:10:15 -0400


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
August 28, 2016 at 8:10 AM
If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
crispness. Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.

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August 28, 2016 at 7:21 AM
I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.

I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
NJ. They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel. I'm on my third
box this month.

These peaches will not travel well, however. Even before they're ripe you
have to be careful with them.

NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
after all.

I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.

Jaime
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On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <

Curley McLain 
August 27, 2016 at 9:58 PM
I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, 
peaches, plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches 
were always best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.


Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the 
CO peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, 
absolutely dry cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, 
or IL or MO peach would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and 
down your arms to the elbow, where it ran off.


Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to 
your elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.


Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  
When the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and 
whatever else they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try 
the Carolina peaches.


WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!  
Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a 
bone , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and 
soften some turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They 
were even worse than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!


Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  
Nowhere near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they 
are tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the 
grocery stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.


So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!

If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless 
I made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   
The sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough 
syrup, so all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, 
but they are flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with 

Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Surprisingly, no one has mentioned Georgia Peaches which are the world standard 
for taste and other qualities. Georgia Peach Wine always takes first prize at 
wine tastings. Supposedly eating Georgia peaches is the reason Georgia women 
are some of the most beautiful in the world. It's why they are often called 
"Georgia Peaches".
Gerry

On Sun, 28 Aug 2016 09:10:15 -0400
Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  wrote:

> If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
> crispness.  Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
> > locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.
> >
> > I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
> > NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
> > box this month.
> >
> > These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
> > have to be careful with them.
> >
> > NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> > after all.
> >
> > I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.
> >
> > Jaime
> > -just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples,
> > peaches,
> > > plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> > > best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> > >
> > > Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> > > peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely
> > dry
> > > cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> > > would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> > > elbow, where it ran off.
> > >
> > > Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> > > identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to
> > your
> > > elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> > >
> > > Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> > > the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever
> > else
> > > they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina
> > peaches.
> > >
> > > WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> > > Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a
> > bone
> > > , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> > > turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> > > than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
> > >
> > > Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.
> > Nowhere
> > > near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> > > tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> > > stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
> > >
> > > So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> > >
> > > If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> > > made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> > > sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> > > all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> > > flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> > > make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!
> >  I'd
> > > usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> > > stuff!
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If they are picked green they ripen into strawlike mush or a rubbery
crispness.  Especially those HUGE CA nectarines.

On Sun, Aug 28, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
> locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.
>
> I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
> NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
> box this month.
>
> These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
> have to be careful with them.
>
> NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
> after all.
>
> I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.
>
> Jaime
> -just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples,
> peaches,
> > plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> > best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
> >
> > Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> > peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely
> dry
> > cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> > would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> > elbow, where it ran off.
> >
> > Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> > identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to
> your
> > elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
> >
> > Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> > the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever
> else
> > they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina
> peaches.
> >
> > WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> > Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a
> bone
> > , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> > turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> > than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
> >
> > Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.
> Nowhere
> > near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> > tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> > stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
> >
> > So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
> >
> > If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> > made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> > sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> > all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> > flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> > make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!
>  I'd
> > usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> > stuff!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-28 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
I'd guess they have different varieties for export/travel to other
locations, and these are most certainly worse than others.

I refuse to purchase peaches anywhere other than my local stand in Chester
NJ.  They're outstanding, currently $25 for a half bushel.  I'm on my third
box this month.

These peaches will not travel well, however.  Even before they're ripe you
have to be careful with them.

NJ is one of the larger peach producing states... We are the garden state,
after all.

I believe they're selling Lorie peach right now, but I could be wrong.

Jaime
-just finished splitting another tractor cart load of wood


On Saturday, August 27, 2016, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches,
> plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always
> best, and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.
>
> Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO
> peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely dry
> cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach
> would be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the
> elbow, where it ran off.
>
> Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety
> identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your
> elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.
>
> Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When
> the store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else
> they had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina peaches.
>
> WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!
> Terrible!  Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a bone
> , hard and had no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some
> turned brown inside, but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse
> than those awful CO peaches I tried in HI!
>
> Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere
> near the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are
> tolerable.   I wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery
> stores.  It has to be people who have never tasted a real peach.
>
> So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!
>
> If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I
> made it with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The
> sheeple are so stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so
> all the "cherry" products may be made with real cherries, but they are
> flavored with maraschino cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to
> make an awful glop.   Eating the cherries right in the tree was best!   I'd
> usually eat 4 to 6 lb of strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD
> stuff!
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-27 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Guess we are keeping the good, exporting the bad?  Fresh fish caught locally 
usually gets exported, and we get frozen here in Mount Plastic, which drives me 
nuts.  I can buy fresh Carolina fish if I drive to Atlanta GA...
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Re: [MBZ] Carolina peaches

2016-08-27 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
The peaches this year have been great. 

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On Aug 27, 2016, at 10:58 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I grew up with local Strawberries, cherries, blueberries, apples, peaches, 
plums, pears, and on a good year, apricots.  Our own peaches were always best, 
and IL peaches next best, and MO peaches in third.

Living in HI, we had none of these available.  One time I decided the CO 
peaches looked good, so I bought a few.  They were terrible, absolutely dry 
cardboard, no juice, no flavor.  Now a homegrown peach, or IL or MO peach would 
be so juicy the juice ran down your chin and down your arms to the elbow, where 
it ran off.

Here, the best we have been able to do is MO peaches with no variety 
identification.   But still they are flavorful and juicy.  Not run to your 
elbows juicy, but tasty, none the less.

Rich and Max were braggin about Carolina peaches a few weeks ago.  When the 
store here ran out of MO peaches, I looked at CO, CA and whatever else they 
had, and decided, on Rich's recommendation to try the Carolina peaches.

WOW!  they were dry as cardboard, and had nearly the same flavor!  Terrible!  
Absolutely TERRIBLE!  They looked pretty, but were dry as a bone , hard and had 
no flavor.  The ones I tried to let ripen and soften some turned brown inside, 
but they were too dry to rot.  They were even worse than those awful CO peaches 
I tried in HI!

Well, at least the strawberries in the store are still tolerable.  Nowhere near 
the juiciness and flavor of real strawberries, but they are tolerable.   I 
wonder who buys the cardboard peaches in the grocery stores.  It has to be 
people who have never tasted a real peach.

So, Rich and Max:  Bah!  Your peaches are awful!

If it is any consolation, I won't eat anything called "Cherry" unless I made it 
with real fresh tart cherries, or frozen tart cherries.   The sheeple are so 
stupid that they think cherry tastes like cough syrup, so all the "cherry" 
products may be made with real cherries, but they are flavored with maraschino 
cherry flavor mixed with cough syrup flavor to make an awful glop.   Eating the 
cherries right in the tree was best!   I'd usually eat 4 to 6 lb of 
strawberries in the patch too.   That was GOOOD stuff!

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