Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-11-09 19:58, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
Until you get into a serious accident and the tin can car fails to 
protect you….


At first I thought you were talking about my desire to play around in a 
40 year old Starlet.


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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Until you get into a serious accident and the tin can car fails to protect you….

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> On Nov 9, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, at 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has
>> to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not
>> make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a
>> toyota fan.
> 
> Agree, never had a bad experience with Toyota cars other than rust on the '87 
> truck. Mechanically they have all been nearly flawless. Honda/Acura has built 
> a great reputation but I have not found their cars to be reliable in the long 
> term. I think Toyota/Lexus builds better cars.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2022-11-09 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:



I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L 
has
to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will 
not

make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a
toyota fan.




When they announced that thing, my first thought was that it would be 
awesome to get a wrecked one and rebuild it in a 40 year old Starlet or 
Tercel body donor. Yes, it'd be crude and rattly, but the power to 
weight ratio and sleeper factor would be off the charts.


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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Wed, Nov 9, 2022, at 14:38, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

> I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has
> to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not
> make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a
> toyota fan.

Agree, never had a bad experience with Toyota cars other than rust on the '87 
truck. Mechanically they have all been nearly flawless. Honda/Acura has built a 
great reputation but I have not found their cars to be reliable in the long 
term. I think Toyota/Lexus builds better cars.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are those other vehicles you mentioned EV or gas?

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 2:39 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The wagon got swiped by some dude at school dropoff, so his insurance is
> paying for me to drive a Tesla for a couple weeks. Model Y. Basic model.
>
> There are some things to get used to, for instance you dont turn the car
> off. You just put it into park and get out and walk away and it locks
> itself up.
>
>  The screen is like learning a new software program. Works well for t gh e
> mostpart but not what I am looking for when I get in a car. It would be
> better with some manual a/c controls.
>
> Rarely use the brakes at all. Taking foot off accelerator brings the car to
> a halt more aggressively than I usually brake.
>
> The auto steer chirps for no apparent reason sometimes to save me from
> myself I guess.
>
> Handling is like driving a stiffly sprung SUV. Definitely not a luxury
> ride.
>
> Ridiculously quick. I find myself accelerating to speeds I would never
> consider in the diesel between stop signs for example.
>
> The driver assist stuff is all helpful to keep you from running into stuff
> and make you aware of your surroundings. These cars are going to be
> involved in fewer acceidents than normal cars, for sure.
>
> So yes they make speed boring but in general it seems hard to argue with it
> for a city car: no point source emissions, quiet, crashworthy, less brake
> dust, cameras all over constantly recording, never go to a gas station or
> get your oil changed. If you dont need a truck and can spend 50k on a car
> there are far dumber vehicles to buy for most americans. Radio is truly
> excellent and kids love the glass roof.
>
> I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has
> to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not
> make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a
> toyota fan.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 5:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving
> > experience is insipid because he's never driven one.
> > Curt
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >
> >   On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes<
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass
> > acceleration, till the battery dies.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m
> suggesting
> > > that they might be wusses.
> > >
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.
> > > >
> > > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-09 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The wagon got swiped by some dude at school dropoff, so his insurance is
paying for me to drive a Tesla for a couple weeks. Model Y. Basic model.

There are some things to get used to, for instance you dont turn the car
off. You just put it into park and get out and walk away and it locks
itself up.

 The screen is like learning a new software program. Works well for t gh e
mostpart but not what I am looking for when I get in a car. It would be
better with some manual a/c controls.

Rarely use the brakes at all. Taking foot off accelerator brings the car to
a halt more aggressively than I usually brake.

The auto steer chirps for no apparent reason sometimes to save me from
myself I guess.

Handling is like driving a stiffly sprung SUV. Definitely not a luxury
ride.

Ridiculously quick. I find myself accelerating to speeds I would never
consider in the diesel between stop signs for example.

The driver assist stuff is all helpful to keep you from running into stuff
and make you aware of your surroundings. These cars are going to be
involved in fewer acceidents than normal cars, for sure.

So yes they make speed boring but in general it seems hard to argue with it
for a city car: no point source emissions, quiet, crashworthy, less brake
dust, cameras all over constantly recording, never go to a gas station or
get your oil changed. If you dont need a truck and can spend 50k on a car
there are far dumber vehicles to buy for most americans. Radio is truly
excellent and kids love the glass roof.

I really want one of those new corolla grx things though. 300hp on 1.6L has
to be some kind of record for a production car and they probably will not
make them very long. Owning a Lexus gx460 for four years has made me a
toyota fan.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 5:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving
> experience is insipid because he's never driven one.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass
> acceleration, till the battery dies.
>
> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting
> > that they might be wusses.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.
> > >
> > >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
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>
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-08 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I drove a Tesla model S a couple years ago. Dimitri only says the driving 
experience is insipid because he's never driven one.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:   Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass acceleration, till the battery 
dies.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting
> that they might be wusses.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.
> >
> >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-08 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Well, some of the EVs have kick-ass acceleration, till the battery dies.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 5:55 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting
> that they might be wusses.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.
> >
> >> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-08 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Haha. Well I’m not saying that guys who drive EVs are gay, I’m suggesting that 
they might be wusses.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 8, 2022, at 6:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.
> 
>> On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] EV kisses.

2022-11-08 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

are you sure? That appears to be a woman he is kissing.

On 08/11/2022 5:17 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:




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