Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-02 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
Yup toadass suck. 

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On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
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 Well, I think we need to wait a bit.
 My Mercedes is 39 years old.
 Let us see how the Prius is at that age.
 My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great.
 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to 
 fix all of the other known faults.
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-02 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It is my considered opinion the only place you will see a Prius in 30
years, if at all, is in a museum.



On 3/2/15, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
Well, I think we need to wait a bit.
My Mercedes is 39 years old.
Let us see how the Prius is at that age.
My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great.
2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I
managed to fix all of the other known faults.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-02 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes

Well, I think we need to wait a bit.
My Mercedes is 39 years old.
Let us see how the Prius is at that age.
My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great.
2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I 
managed to fix all of the other known faults.


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Well, I think we need to wait a bit.
My Mercedes is 39 years old.
Let us see how the Prius is at that age.
My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great.
2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed 
to fix all of the other known faults.


RB

On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs 
repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 
miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power 
outages.
Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be 
backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during 
the '50s and '60s.
You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the 
manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a 
good one.
I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to 
do.
Gerry
BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine 
'83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member 
of the family.

Dwight Giles wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've never been real excited about how they rode either, the Prius in 
particular has quite hard seats...
Interestingly some people have fantastic results and keep them going forever to 
stupid high mileages. I dated a girl who had a Chevy Nova (rebadged Toyota 
Tercel I think it was) that had over 300,000 miles. I asked and she told me 
they'd replaced the clutch once... It was a crapbox of a car in every regard 
but they sure wound the mileage onto it.Other people have truly rotten luck 
with them, no mileage, major failures at massive expense. Its an interesting 
spread.
-Curt
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
   
Well, I think we need to wait a bit.
My Mercedes is 39 years old.
Let us see how the Prius is at that age.
My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great.
2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed 
to fix all of the other known faults.

RB



On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
 ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs 
 repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 
 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power 
 outages.
 Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be 
 backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, 
 during the '50s and '60s.
 You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all 
 the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first 
 with a good one.
 I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to 
 do.
 Gerry
 BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine 
 '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member 
 of the family.

 Dwight Giles wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-03-01 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes

ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs 
repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 
miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power 
outages. 
Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be 
backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during 
the '50s and '60s.
You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the 
manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a 
good one. 
I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to 
do.
Gerry
BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine 
'83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member 
of the family.

Dwight Giles wrote:
 I like that message.

   From: dseretakis
   Yeah like F*CK YOU PRIUS!
  

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-02-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
That  the manual cold idle knob. I miss my old 240D's.
On Feb 28, 2015 9:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device,
 especially since its way over on the other side of the console.
 I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock...
 -Curt
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  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM
  Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info



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 Begin forwarded message:

  From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
  Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST
  To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
 
  I think the gp push button is kind of cool.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button.
 When the relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no
 leave the button.  Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a
 starter button on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as
 you thought was needed.
 
  On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young
 thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to
 glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to
 a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote:
   I love that “like I stole it” phrase!  Just imagining it a 240D is
 rather amusing……
   Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it
 hard would likely go unnoticed by most folks?
  
   RB
  
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-02-28 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device, 
especially since its way over on the other side of the console.
I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock...
-Curt
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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
   


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Begin forwarded message:

 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST
 To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
 
 I think the gp push button is kind of cool.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button. When the 
 relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no leave the 
 button.  Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a starter button 
 on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as you thought was 
 needed.
 
 On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young 
 thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to 
 glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to 
 a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote:
  I love that “like I stole it” phrase!  Just imagining it a 240D is 
  rather amusing……
  Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it hard 
  would likely go unnoticed by most folks?
 
  RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-02-28 Thread dseretakis--- via Mercedes
I blocked off the entire radiator this morning and drove to Maine. It took a 
while but the car reached normal operating temp- a tad bit above the 175 F 
mark. Halfway through the trip, I pulled over at the Kennebunkport service area 
and pulled some of the cardboard back to 50% coverage. I did this because I 
still had a good 1hr plus to go and didn't want to push my luck. The car 
started cooling down to just a tad above the 100F mark. 
Other than that the car drove like a dream. Even hit 80 mph! Didn't think 
theses old boys could do that.

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 On Feb 28, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 That  the manual cold idle knob. I miss my old 240D's.
 On Feb 28, 2015 9:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device,
 especially since its way over on the other side of the console.
 I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock...
 -Curt
  From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 Begin forwarded message:
 
 From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
 Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST
 To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
 
 I think the gp push button is kind of cool.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button.
 When the relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no
 leave the button.  Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a
 starter button on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as
 you thought was needed.
 
 On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young
 thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to
 glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to
 a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote:
 I love that “like I stole it” phrase!  Just imagining it a 240D is
 rather amusing……
 Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it
 hard would likely go unnoticed by most folks?
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info

2015-02-28 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I like that message.
On Feb 28, 2015 3:33 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:



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 Begin forwarded message:

  From: dsereta...@yahoo.com
  Date: February 28, 2015 at 1:40:46 PM EST
  To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
 
  Yeah like F*CK YOU PRIUS!
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 28, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  You should write a whimsical message on the cardboard blocking the
 radiator to be read by drivers of the cars you are following.
 
  On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:01 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  The thermostat housing looked pretty good.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
  
   IIRC corroded thermostat _housings_ can induce problems.
   The plates don't seat right.  If the bypass channel couldn't
   be closed properly, and hot water takes the path of least
   resistance, then it could overheat then.
  
   Did you check the inside of the thermostat housing for
   corrosion or damage?
  
   -- Jim
  
  
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