Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Yup toadass suck. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 2, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
It is my considered opinion the only place you will see a Prius in 30 years, if at all, is in a museum. On 3/2/15, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB Friends don't let friends drive toadas. Fireball deathtraps. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during the '50s and '60s. You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a good one. I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to do. Gerry BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member of the family. Dwight Giles wrote: _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I've never been real excited about how they rode either, the Prius in particular has quite hard seats... Interestingly some people have fantastic results and keep them going forever to stupid high mileages. I dated a girl who had a Chevy Nova (rebadged Toyota Tercel I think it was) that had over 300,000 miles. I asked and she told me they'd replaced the clutch once... It was a crapbox of a car in every regard but they sure wound the mileage onto it.Other people have truly rotten luck with them, no mileage, major failures at massive expense. Its an interesting spread. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: arche...@embarqmail.com arche...@embarqmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Well, I think we need to wait a bit. My Mercedes is 39 years old. Let us see how the Prius is at that age. My experience with the Toyotas that I have owned has not been great. 2 of them rusted away and the 3rd one committed suicide before I managed to fix all of the other known faults. RB On 01/03/2015 3:47 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during the '50s and '60s. You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a good one. I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to do. Gerry BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member of the family. Dwight Giles wrote: _ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
ROFL!!! Pity the poor Prius! All it does is get 50 mpg and rarely needs repairs. The Koreans just came out with a cheaper pure electric that goes 95 miles between charges and has a 110v outlet so you can use it during power outages. Local Prius dealer says he can't keep all colors in stock and some have to be backordered. Reminds me of the Beetles, those well hated German cars, during the '50s and '60s. You guys might as well get used to hyrid cars and pure electrics since all the manufacturers are making them; even Mercedes. Toyota was just the first with a good one. I don't love any car; I just like them when they do what they are supposed to do. Gerry BTW, I just had a local retiree offer me $5000 for my (R.I.P.) wifes pristine '83 240D that she dearly loved. I turned him down. Its too much like a member of the family. Dwight Giles wrote: I like that message. From: dseretakis Yeah like F*CK YOU PRIUS! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
That the manual cold idle knob. I miss my old 240D's. On Feb 28, 2015 9:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device, especially since its way over on the other side of the console. I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock... -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info I think the gp push button is kind of cool. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button. When the relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no leave the button. Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a starter button on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as you thought was needed. On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: I love that “like I stole it” phrase! Just imagining it a 240D is rather amusing…… Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it hard would likely go unnoticed by most folks? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device, especially since its way over on the other side of the console. I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock... -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info I think the gp push button is kind of cool. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button. When the relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no leave the button. Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a starter button on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as you thought was needed. On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: I love that “like I stole it” phrase! Just imagining it a 240D is rather amusing…… Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it hard would likely go unnoticed by most folks? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I blocked off the entire radiator this morning and drove to Maine. It took a while but the car reached normal operating temp- a tad bit above the 175 F mark. Halfway through the trip, I pulled over at the Kennebunkport service area and pulled some of the cardboard back to 50% coverage. I did this because I still had a good 1hr plus to go and didn't want to push my luck. The car started cooling down to just a tad above the 100F mark. Other than that the car drove like a dream. Even hit 80 mph! Didn't think theses old boys could do that. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2015, at 9:23 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That the manual cold idle knob. I miss my old 240D's. On Feb 28, 2015 9:05 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I also thought the button was kind of cool and a good anti-theft device, especially since its way over on the other side of the console. I think I've still got all the pieces to convert it back to stock... -Curt From: dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2015 11:06 PM Subject: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 27, 2015 at 11:00:28 PM EST To: Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info I think the gp push button is kind of cool. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 PM, Dwight Giles dwight.gi...@gmail.com wrote: Actually the PO before my brotherr bought it put in that GP button. When the relay was bad my Indy offered to taje it back to stock, i said no leave the button. Nostalgia for me. My first car- a 49 Pontiac had a starter button on the dash. I liked that you could hold it down as long as you thought was needed. On Feb 27, 2015 6:08 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Not too many people will know how to steal it. First of all most young thieves today can't drive a stick. Second of all, nobody will know how to glow the car -Curt retrofitted it with pencil type plugs and wired them to a push button on the dash. Hahahaha dumb thieves, try stealing that! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On 26/02/2015 6:42 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: I love that “like I stole it” phrase! Just imagining it a 240D is rather amusing…… Are you suggesting no one would steal a 240D? or that driving it hard would likely go unnoticed by most folks? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Fwd: Overheating 240D more info
I like that message. On Feb 28, 2015 3:33 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Sent from my iPhone Begin forwarded message: From: dsereta...@yahoo.com Date: February 28, 2015 at 1:40:46 PM EST To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Overheating 240D more info Yeah like F*CK YOU PRIUS! Sent from my iPhone On Feb 28, 2015, at 12:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You should write a whimsical message on the cardboard blocking the radiator to be read by drivers of the cars you are following. On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:01 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The thermostat housing looked pretty good. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 27, 2015, at 10:04 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: IIRC corroded thermostat _housings_ can induce problems. The plates don't seat right. If the bypass channel couldn't be closed properly, and hot water takes the path of least resistance, then it could overheat then. Did you check the inside of the thermostat housing for corrosion or damage? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.