Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-22 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Clean thoroughly first.  Then ozone.

Ozone will oxidize the rubber and plastic in the cabin.


Yes.  So don't go nuts with it.

The best solution I have found was to use a 10/1 water/hydrogen peroxide
> solution in a spray bottle.  This has no deleterious effect on plastic,
> rubber, leather, or wool carpet.  It does not bleach or stain,


H2O2 is basically liquid ozone.  Both O3 and H2O2 release a free oxygen
radical when provoked, which binds vigorously with the nearby whatever.
Hopefully something stinky.  H2O2 _is_ a bleach, and will cause problems if
over-used.  Just like ozone.  Usually, in the concentrations of either that
you can make or buy, both are relatively mild and pretty safe.

I was at the thrift shop recently, and they had two ozone generators there,
$7 each.  These are $100+ units, and both worked.  (These are basically
small fluorescent-style lights in a shielded, fanned case, using germicidal
[clear quartz envelope, no phosphors] bulbs.) I opened one up, to glue some
loose parts back down, and the interior of the black plastic housing was
all white and oxidized, from the UV light and/or ozone.  Big deal.  I had a
smelly towel that no amount of laundering would clear up.  I hung it in the
bathroom and ran the two units in there, door closed, overnight.  The moldy
smell is gone.

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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Buy the cheapest ground coffee and leave the open can in the car with all
the windows closed for the weekend or longer.

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 9:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ozone will help, but you've got to dry the car out really well, and keep
> it dry.
>
> I've heard that mold can be killed with high heat, 140 degrees, held for
> 24 hours.
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> On October 21, 2017 8:48:13 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >I think this one is just from sitting for a long time but will search
> >for mold.
> >
> >Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> OK Don is right, you've got to remove the mold.  Case in point,
> >SWMBO's Infiniti.  I ozone treated the car several times, and that
> >world work for a short time, but I ultimately took out the dash,
> >replaced the evaporator, and cleaned the inside of all the ducts, and
> >now the mold is gone.
> >> --
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
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> >>
> >>> On October 21, 2017 5:50:01 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> >>> First, find and remove the mold . . .
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Ozone will help, but you've got to dry the car out really well, and keep it dry.

I've heard that mold can be killed with high heat, 140 degrees, held for 24 
hours.
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On October 21, 2017 8:48:13 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>I think this one is just from sitting for a long time but will search
>for mold.
>
>Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> OK Don is right, you've got to remove the mold.  Case in point,
>SWMBO's Infiniti.  I ozone treated the car several times, and that
>world work for a short time, but I ultimately took out the dash,
>replaced the evaporator, and cleaned the inside of all the ducts, and
>now the mold is gone.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>>> On October 21, 2017 5:50:01 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes
> wrote:
>>> First, find and remove the mold . . .
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I think this one is just from sitting for a long time but will search for mold.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 21, 2017, at 7:33 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> OK Don is right, you've got to remove the mold.  Case in point, SWMBO's 
> Infiniti.  I ozone treated the car several times, and that world work for a 
> short time, but I ultimately took out the dash, replaced the evaporator, and 
> cleaned the inside of all the ducts, and now the mold is gone.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On October 21, 2017 5:50:01 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> First, find and remove the mold . . .
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
OK Don is right, you've got to remove the mold.  Case in point, SWMBO's 
Infiniti.  I ozone treated the car several times, and that world work for a 
short time, but I ultimately took out the dash, replaced the evaporator, and 
cleaned the inside of all the ducts, and now the mold is gone.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 21, 2017 5:50:01 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes  
wrote:
>First, find and remove the mold . . .
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread clay monroe via Mercedes
I would not use ozone for more than minor smells.  Odors and Reeking need a 
better approach.   Ozone will oxidize the rubber and plastic in the cabin.   It 
would be better to strip out the interior and hand clean it, or stuff it into a 
container and blast it with ozone there.

The best solution I have found was to use a 10/1 water/hydrogen peroxide 
solution in a spray bottle.  This has no deleterious effect on plastic, rubber, 
leather, or wool carpet.  It does not bleach or stain, and gently removes the 
offending source of stench.   You can scrub with a soft brush as well as terry 
toweling on smoother surfaces.  Initial cleansing requires almost saturation, 
or at least dampness.

It works on metal, as well as soft parts.  The improvement is not immediate, as 
it requires multiple applications over a number of weeks, but the smell is 
fully removed in the end.  The peroxide in the solution keeps mold and odors 
from developing on the damp surfaces.

I used it on at least five cars in the past four years.  It was a very good way 
to clean up PnP parts that wanted to be installed or sold on.

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> How do you do it? Should I get one of those ozone machines?
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
First, find and remove the mold . . .

On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Yea maybe.
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> > On Oct 21, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ozone gets rid of smoke smells.  Not sure it works on mold.  Maybe a
> Google search would tell you?
> >
> > -D
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> >> On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yea maybe. 

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> On Oct 21, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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> Ozone gets rid of smoke smells.  Not sure it works on mold.  Maybe a Google 
> search would tell you?
> 
> -D
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>> On Oct 21, 2017, at 3:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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>> How do you do it? Should I get one of those ozone machines?
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Re: [MBZ] Getting moldy stale smell out of car

2017-10-21 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ozone gets rid of smoke smells.  Not sure it works on mold.  Maybe a Google 
search would tell you?

-D

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