Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

My supervisor did not have body cam when he had to confront a criminal, but a 
swift call to 911 recorded about 15 minute to the dispatchers computer.  The 
flat foots that showed up did not want to do anything and claimed at that point 
it was he said/he said.  My boy called a cop buddy who had the duty sergeant 
put down his donut and arrive on the scene to put the fear of the Lord into his 
minions


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Oct 1, 2018, at 10:38 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Point very well made, re, having multiple dash cameras which give full
> around the car coverage, that is "ALWAYS ON WHEN CAR IS RUNNING" slaved
> to a digital hard drive mounted in the trunk.
> 
> Small up front cost, big repayment on the back side.for each incident, such
> as this one.
> 
> My plan to use 4 cameras would give full coverage. One in front windshield,
> one inside mounted to each B pillar aimed across interior of car and out
> the side windows, and one in rear window. All of them with 120 degree field
> of view, night vision, and gps and date time stamp built in, recording at
> 1080 so it can be played on any big screen TV.
> 
> Then, the script reads: Officer, I have the whole event on camera, live as
> it happened. Please watch this.
> Add: a USB port to the hard drive so you can insert a thumb drive and hand
> that to the officer,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:10 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ahh, you didn't mention the pics before. That changes everything...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Meade Dillon
>> wrote:   The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who
>> was probably within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good
>> descriptions of the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast
>> enough to avoid at least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My
>> wife even managed to take a picture or a short video with her phone right
>> before or right after she called 911, and showed that to the policman.
>> Some restaurant employee even ran out and stood and watched while the two
>> stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My daughter was also visibly upset but I
>> wasn't about to provide her info as a witness - she'd been traumatized
>> enough.
>> 
>> Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.
>> I'd certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her
>> tax dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge,
>> prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town
>> council).  This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the
>> business owners see a drop in business from locals, and then start to
>> witness first hand the ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be
>> smart enough to put two and two together and then take some action.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of
>> the crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which
>> one is yours.Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty
>> rough too, it's not his fault...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>>  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes<
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Clay,
>> 
>> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
>> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
>> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
>> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
>> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
>> 
>> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
>> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
>> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
>> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
>> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
>> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
>> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
>> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
>> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
>> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
>> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
>> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
>> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
>> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
>> charges because the local judge would dismiss them 

Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am thinking that we need to revert to putting cops back on the beat.  How can 
the pigs know anything if they hide in their cars?   This decade they know only 
the precinct locker room and the donut hut.  Nobody knows anybody, so the cop 
has no clue who the locals are, and the business people have no relationship 
with the cops.  Lose/lose for the whole community



clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Oct 1, 2018, at 8:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who was
> probably within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good
> descriptions of the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast
> enough to avoid at least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My
> wife even managed to take a picture or a short video with her phone right
> before or right after she called 911, and showed that to the policman.
> Some restaurant employee even ran out and stood and watched while the two
> stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My daughter was also visibly upset but I
> wasn't about to provide her info as a witness - she'd been traumatized
> enough.
> 
> Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.
> I'd certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her
> tax dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge,
> prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town
> council).  This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the
> business owners see a drop in business from locals, and then start to
> witness first hand the ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be
> smart enough to put two and two together and then take some action.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
>> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of
>> the crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which
>> one is yours.
>> Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too,
>> it's not his fault...
>> 
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> Clay,
>> 
>> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
>> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
>> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
>> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
>> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
>> 
>> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
>> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
>> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
>> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
>> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
>> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
>> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
>> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
>> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
>> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
>> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
>> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
>> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
>> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
>> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
>> There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
>> so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
>> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
>> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
>> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
>> if I can help it.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

A body would be evident.  The other way is for witnesses to return to the scene 
and select him from the  single hobo at that location who is flinging his own 
excrement at buildings


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Oct 1, 2018, at 4:48 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of the 
> crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which one is 
> yours.Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too, 
> it's not his fault...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Clay,
> 
> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
> 
> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
> so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
> if I can help it.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
>> 
>> I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> +1.  USCCA great for training and "insurance".  Anyone who supports the
>> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
>>> 
>>> I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.  I
>> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
>>> 
>>> There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by
>> 12 than carried by 6.
>>> 
>>> I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
>> self-defense.  What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and
>> even more on the local political environment.  Living in rural NC, where I
>> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
>> probably a best case.  But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win
>> proposition.  We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling
>> aristocracy.
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From:  Larry Turner via Mercedes
 
 You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
>> abiding
 people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
>> arrested &
 thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
 (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
>> come up
 with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged sword -
>> don't
 carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do
>> carry
 and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while
>> dealing
 with our criminal-justice system.  This isn't how it was supposed to
>> be...
 
 BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
>> circles
 but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of choices...
 
 LarryT
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

This is Tecklenburg’s city, Emperor Joe never would have allowed that kind of 
thing. 

We have other things going on now with Teck, it is going to be very very ugly. 
I almost feel badly for the guy except that he has treated me and friends very 
badly. He’ll get his. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2018, at 11:43 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who was
> probably within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good
> descriptions of the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast
> enough to avoid at least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My
> wife even managed to take a picture or a short video with her phone right
> before or right after she called 911, and showed that to the policman.
> Some restaurant employee even ran out and stood and watched while the two
> stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My daughter was also visibly upset but I
> wasn't about to provide her info as a witness - she'd been traumatized
> enough.
> 
> Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.
> I'd certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her
> tax dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge,
> prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town
> council).  This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the
> business owners see a drop in business from locals, and then start to
> witness first hand the ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be
> smart enough to put two and two together and then take some action.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of
>> the crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which
>> one is yours.
>> Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too,
>> it's not his fault...
>> 
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> Clay,
>> 
>> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
>> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
>> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
>> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
>> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
>> 
>> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
>> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
>> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
>> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
>> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
>> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
>> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
>> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
>> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
>> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
>> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
>> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
>> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
>> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
>> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
>> There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
>> so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
>> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
>> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
>> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
>> if I can help it.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Point very well made, re, having multiple dash cameras which give full
around the car coverage, that is "ALWAYS ON WHEN CAR IS RUNNING" slaved
to a digital hard drive mounted in the trunk.

Small up front cost, big repayment on the back side.for each incident, such
as this one.

My plan to use 4 cameras would give full coverage. One in front windshield,
one inside mounted to each B pillar aimed across interior of car and out
the side windows, and one in rear window. All of them with 120 degree field
of view, night vision, and gps and date time stamp built in, recording at
1080 so it can be played on any big screen TV.

Then, the script reads: Officer, I have the whole event on camera, live as
it happened. Please watch this.
Add: a USB port to the hard drive so you can insert a thumb drive and hand
that to the officer,

On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 10:10 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ahh, you didn't mention the pics before. That changes everything...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Meade Dillon
> wrote:   The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who
> was probably within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good
> descriptions of the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast
> enough to avoid at least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My
> wife even managed to take a picture or a short video with her phone right
> before or right after she called 911, and showed that to the policman.
> Some restaurant employee even ran out and stood and watched while the two
> stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My daughter was also visibly upset but I
> wasn't about to provide her info as a witness - she'd been traumatized
> enough.
>
> Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.
> I'd certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her
> tax dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge,
> prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town
> council).  This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the
> business owners see a drop in business from locals, and then start to
> witness first hand the ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be
> smart enough to put two and two together and then take some action.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of
> the crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which
> one is yours.Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty
> rough too, it's not his fault...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Clay,
>
> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
>
> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
> so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
> if I can help it.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Ahh, you didn't mention the pics before. That changes everything...

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Meade Dillon wrote:   
The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who was probably 
within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good descriptions of 
the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast enough to avoid at 
least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My wife even managed to take 
a picture or a short video with her phone right before or right after she 
called 911, and showed that to the policman.  Some restaurant employee even ran 
out and stood and watched while the two stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My 
daughter was also visibly upset but I wasn't about to provide her info as a 
witness - she'd been traumatized enough.

Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.  I'd 
certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her tax 
dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge, 
prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town council).  
This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the business owners 
see a drop in business from locals, and then start to witness first hand the 
ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be smart enough to put two and 
two together and then take some action.  

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of the 
crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which one is 
yours.Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too, 
it's not his fault...

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Clay,

Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.

Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
if I can help it.
-
Max
Charleston SC



 

  
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

The police had more than enough to stop and question the perp, who was
probably within a couple of blocks.  I was a witness, we both had good
descriptions of the two drunks, and they weren't going to sober up fast
enough to avoid at least a citation for public drunk and disorderly.  My
wife even managed to take a picture or a short video with her phone right
before or right after she called 911, and showed that to the policman.
Some restaurant employee even ran out and stood and watched while the two
stumbled off yelling obscenities.  My daughter was also visibly upset but I
wasn't about to provide her info as a witness - she'd been traumatized
enough.

Business owners should have an interest in keeping their clients happy.
I'd certainly expect a business owner to take notice of how well his / her
tax dollars were being spent, and give feedback to the tax spenders (judge,
prosecutor and police to start, and then on to the mayor and town
council).  This assault occurred right in front of the restaurant.  If the
business owners see a drop in business from locals, and then start to
witness first hand the ill treatment of potential clients, they need to be
smart enough to put two and two together and then take some action.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:48 AM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of
> the crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which
> one is yours.
> Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too,
> it's not his fault...
>
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
>
> On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> Clay,
>
> Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
> city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
> event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
> a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
> of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.
>
> Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
> a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
> outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
> door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
> myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
> to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
> hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
> in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
> seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
> officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
> perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
> asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
> in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
> basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
> charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
> There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
> so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
> restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
> town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
> From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
> if I can help it.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Looking at it from the side of the police you've got no hard evidence of the 
crime, they can't just grab every drunkard off the street to see which one is 
yours.Taking out your frustrations on the business owner is pretty rough too, 
it's not his fault...

Curt

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  On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 7:22 AM, Meade Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Clay,

Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.

Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
if I can help it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
>
> I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1.  USCCA great for training and "insurance".  Anyone who supports the
> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
> >
> > I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.  I
> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
> >
> > There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by
> 12 than carried by 6.
> >
> > I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
> self-defense.  What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and
> even more on the local political environment.  Living in rural NC, where I
> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
> probably a best case.  But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win
> proposition.  We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling
> aristocracy.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From:  Larry Turner via Mercedes
> >>
> >> You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
> abiding
> >> people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
> arrested &
> >> thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> >> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
> come up
> >> with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged sword -
> don't
> >> carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do
> carry
> >> and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while
> dealing
> >> with our criminal-justice system.  This isn't how it was supposed to
> be...
> >>
> >> BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
> circles
> >> but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of choices...
> >>
> >> LarryT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Contact your local 24hour news outlet, they'd love to put your near death story 
in front of some eyeballs.

Cury

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  On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   You don't appear to be showing the 
proper amount of compassion for the 
less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  
Is there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite 
your reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your 
public servants and their pressing missions?

Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer 
be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and 
"mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that 
is far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported 
Mercedes-Benz automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male 
privilege.

What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your 
home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction 
with this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit 
required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.

--FT


On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken another 
> victim.
>
> Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had set 
> up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution sign as a 
> shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home and screaming 
> at buildings, people and cars.
>
> A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel fort. 
> This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like monkey poop, 
> at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar, just abaft of 
> the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the bare metal, 
> leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over two inches.
>
> This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A few 
> of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their jobs.  
> The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a description 
> and location, she tells me there have been a number of calls reporting the 
> same violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive, sometime, if i 
> wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I could chat with 
> insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city for deriliction of 
> duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars who stopped after 
> being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the pigs, decided they 
> could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut gobblers, and left.  
> I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop would actually show.    
> Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
>
> Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the vermin 
> is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public, spewing 
> invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the cops turn a 
> blind eye.
>
>
> clay
>
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Clay,

Sounds like well past this point, but agitating for change (start going to
city council meetings) might be lots of fun.  Dashcam footage of the
event?  Time to invest in several of those.  Get cell phone footage, start
a you.tube or facebook page for sharing your reporting, gather up a group
of like-minded citizens and let your voice be heard.

Downtown Chucktown one Sunday afternoon, SWMBO, SWMBette and I stopped for
a bite on King street.  Shortly after we ordered the food, my wife stepped
outside to get some air.  Our table was about three steps from the front
door, the restaurant front was all glass so she was completely visible to
myself and our daughter.  Two men approached her and started trying to talk
to her, I started moving outside but before I got there one grabbed her and
hugged her.  She pushed him away, I stepped in between and commenced to get
in his face but not get physical, she called 911 on her cell while I was
seeing this miscreant (drunk) and his companion (also drunk) off.  An
officer arrived minutes later, immediately passed the description of the
perps on his radio, and then took our statements.  Once we'd done that I
asked for the case number and made clear that we'd be very happy to appear
in court as witnesses to this criminal behavior.  The cop apologized and
basically said don't hold your breath, the local prosecutor wouldn't bring
charges because the local judge would dismiss them in a case like this.
There would be a report but nothing beyond that.  No name for the criminal,
so no way to attach to his record.  We were pretty incredulous. I told the
restaurant owner that we'd take our business elsewhere, like to another
town that enforced the law, and enjoy the remains of our Sunday in peace.
From that moment on, I avoid spending money at any establishment downtown
if I can help it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Oct 1, 2018 at 6:53 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...
>
> I’ll have to look at the USCCA.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > +1.  USCCA great for training and "insurance".  Anyone who supports the
> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
> >
> > I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.  I
> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
> >
> > There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by
> 12 than carried by 6.
> >
> > I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for
> self-defense.  What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and
> even more on the local political environment.  Living in rural NC, where I
> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is
> probably a best case.  But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win
> proposition.  We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling
> aristocracy.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From:  Larry Turner via Mercedes
> >>
> >> You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
> abiding
> >> people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be
> arrested &
> >> thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> >> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
> come up
> >> with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged sword -
> don't
> >> carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do
> carry
> >> and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while
> dealing
> >> with our criminal-justice system.  This isn't how it was supposed to
> be...
> >>
> >> BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
> circles
> >> but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of choices...
> >>
> >> LarryT
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

M Bodyguard (.380 ACP) or Ruger LC9S or both, depending...

I’ll have to look at the USCCA. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 1, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> +1.  USCCA great for training and "insurance".  Anyone who supports the 
> Second Amendment should belong to the NRA.
> 
> I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.  I 
> carry concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.
> 
> There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by 12 
> than carried by 6.  
> 
> I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for 
> self-defense.  What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and 
> even more on the local political environment.  Living in rural NC, where I 
> know the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is 
> probably a best case.  But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win 
> proposition.  We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling 
> aristocracy.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From:  Larry Turner via Mercedes
>> 
>> You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law 
>> abiding
>> people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be arrested &
>> thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
>> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to come 
>> up
>> with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged sword - don't
>> carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do carry
>> and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while 
>> dealing
>> with our criminal-justice system.  This isn't how it was supposed to be...
>> 
>> BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A circles
>> but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of choices...
>> 
>> LarryT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

+1.  USCCA great for training and "insurance".  Anyone who supports the Second 
Amendment should belong to the NRA.

I should carry always but only carry selectively, usually a Shield 9.  I carry 
concealed, hoping the element of surprise would work in my favor.

There are no winners in a gun fight but it's still better to be tried by 12 
than carried by 6.  

I fully expect to be led away in handcuffs if I use lethal force for 
self-defense.  What happens after that depends largely on circumstances and 
even more on the local political environment.  Living in rural NC, where I know 
the current Sheriff (and the three candidates to succeed him), is probably a 
best case.  But in many "blue" states (and the UK) it's a no-win proposition.  
We are just cogs in the machine; not important to the ruling aristocracy.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Larry Turner via Mercedes
> 
> You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law abiding
> people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will be arrested &
> thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to come up
> with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged sword - don't
> carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up dead, if you do carry
> and use it, your financial well being may be lost in a few weeks while dealing
> with our criminal-justice system.  This isn't how it was supposed to be...
> 
> BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A circles
> but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of choices...
> 
> LarryT


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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Average criminal defense lawyer fee for a self defense case will be an
opening retainer of $10,000 minimum, plus what ever bail, if you can bail
out, may be.

The selling point for myself on USCCA was their quite active and ongoing
legal training, which is directed to how you present yourself, and the
event of self defense to minimize negative exposure.

Prime example of what not to do is George Zimmerman case. He did many
things right, post event, but a few things wrong, which cost him much money
and legal expenses. Had he invested in legal training, much of that self
inflicted injury could have been avoided...

The old adage of "shoot, shovel, and shut up" doesn't work in our modern PC
world.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 7:31 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law
> abiding people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will
> be arrested & thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail
> (hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to
> come up with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged
> sword - don't carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up
> dead, if you do carry and use it, your financial well being may be lost
> in a few weeks while dealing with our criminal-justice system.  This
> isn't how it was supposed to be...
>
> BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A
> circles but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of
> choices...
>
> LarryT
>
>
>
> On 09/30/2018 10:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > If you are not now a member of USCCA, consider becoming one. Part of
> > membership is access to a 2A attorney, pre vetted by USCCA, available
> 24/7,
> > as well as bail and and legal fees. I view it as an "investment in my
> > future".  If you carry, there is always the possible outcome that you may
> > be involved in an incident which needs legal representation, even if no
> > shots are fired.
> > They also offer legal training, to prepare you better.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:42 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I am afeared that any contact I make with the authorities would result
> in
> >> one of us dead.
> >>
> >> I open carry, but can not do that at work, not even in the vehicle.   I
> >> was cursing myself for not having the machete in the car yesterday, as I
> >> had planned on using it for some required real estate upkeep chores.
> >>
> >>
> >> clay monroe
> >> redgh...@comcast.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the
> >> less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation
> Camp.  Is
> >> there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite
> your
> >> reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your public
> >> servants and their pressing missions?
> >>> Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer
> >> be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and
> >> "mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that
> is
> >> far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported
> Mercedes-Benz
> >> automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male privilege.
> >>> What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in
> your
> >> home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction
> with
> >> this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit
> >> required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>  Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken
> >> another victim.
>  Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who
> >> had set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the
> caution
> >> sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home
> >> and screaming at buildings, people and cars.
>  A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his
> barrel
> >> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like
> >> monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C
> pillar,
> >> just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to
> the
> >> bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over
> >> two inches.
>  This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.
> >> A few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do
> >> their jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After
> >> providing a description and location, she tells me there have been a
> number
> >> of calls reporting the same violence, and I 

Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

I'm told this lack of enforcement is being used to alter the crime 
stats, especially in UK since so many firearms were confiscated and 
outlawed.  They claim crime is going down but it's merely being under 
reported.  Murder and assaults have actually risen considerably, but 
since so many are not reported, the govt claims crime is down thanks to 
fewer guns in the hands of the public.  It's madness, with the monkeys 
running the circus.


LarryT


On 09/30/2018 10:26 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

I am tempted to not be sore at the bobbies, but they are a lazy lot.  Simpler 
for them to turn a blind eye to misdeeds, as it just involves paperwork and 
does not result in lasting solutions.  Learned helplessness due to the complete 
abrogation of duty by the elected imbeciles.

Parking enforcement only torments the law abiding folk.  The hobo camper scamps 
are ignored, even as they set up lasting encampments on public roadways.  The 
meter maids just scooter past without taking note the half dozen class C crud 
rotting away on the street.   Leaking black water tanks drool cholera and 
stench as discouragement for public strollers.  The property owners are 
bedeviled by parking laws and must move our cars every 72 hours or face a 
magistrate.

The Coleman crowd (more likely discarded REI tents) devastate any open patch of 
ground, be it dirt or cement.  They gather to themselves all manner of items 
stolen from the law abiding and each other.  Furniture, bikes, electronics, 
clothing, and any other product not nailed down firmly finds its way into a 
moat of nasty encircling their tents.  The stench of their effluent is enough 
to keep any less than the most determined away.  The garbage can reach depth 
greater than a meter and cascade down embankments in avalanches of putrescence.

The city council is determined to pass a regulation that would make it a crime 
for the un-hoboed to contribute to the pestilence.  The Royalty of Hobo are 
immune to most, if not all, criminal persecutions. Their vehicles are without 
current registrations.  They pay not taxes and leave their night soil upon the 
streets, after fornicating in broad daylight for all the public to admire.  
They steal with impunity.  Assault women and children, as well as attack and 
strangle tourists.  Last week or so, there was a kerfuffle involving a local 
business owner, who upon exiting her establishment to take her pooch for a 
walk, was accosted by the hounds of hobos.  She and her pup suffered severe 
injuries requiring prolonged (for current medical care) stays at hospital.
The police were reticent to become involved.  The elected SFBs tried to blame 
her for inciting the unrestrained and unlicensed pets.  Though she had filed 
many complaints over the previous year regarding the dangers she and her 
customers had with the the hobo population.

The resolution came when her attorney filed suit for damages and caused 
embarrassment in the press.The legal proceedings continue, but the hobos 
were given the bums’ rush.  At least for the next few weeks.


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net




On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  
wrote:

I suspect of the problem is more political than police. In some
jurisdictions property damage is not considered a real crime.


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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

You are 100% correct!  The 1st thing that will happen if any of us law 
abiding people need to display or God forbid, shoot someone, is we will 
be arrested & thrown in jail until a judge decides to grant us bail 
(hopefully) = and if we happen to have $25 or $50K we'll still have to 
come up with many more $1000's in lawyer fees.  Carrying is a two edged 
sword - don't carry and need a gun, you or a loved one might end up 
dead, if you do carry and use it, your financial well being may be lost 
in a few weeks while dealing with our criminal-justice system.  This 
isn't how it was supposed to be...


BTW, USCCA  may be the one most have heard of who travel in 2nd A 
circles but the NRA and some others offer policies as well.  Lots of 
choices...


LarryT



On 09/30/2018 10:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

If you are not now a member of USCCA, consider becoming one. Part of
membership is access to a 2A attorney, pre vetted by USCCA, available 24/7,
as well as bail and and legal fees. I view it as an "investment in my
future".  If you carry, there is always the possible outcome that you may
be involved in an incident which needs legal representation, even if no
shots are fired.
They also offer legal training, to prepare you better.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:42 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I am afeared that any contact I make with the authorities would result in
one of us dead.

I open carry, but can not do that at work, not even in the vehicle.   I
was cursing myself for not having the machete in the car yesterday, as I
had planned on using it for some required real estate upkeep chores.


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net




On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the

less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  Is
there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite your
reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your public
servants and their pressing missions?

Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer

be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and
"mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that is
far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported Mercedes-Benz
automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male privilege.

What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your

home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction with
this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit
required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.

--FT


On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken

another victim.

Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who

had set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution
sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home
and screaming at buildings, people and cars.

A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel

fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like
monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar,
just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the
bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over
two inches.

This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.

A few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do
their jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After
providing a description and location, she tells me there have been a number
of calls reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to
arrive, sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I
could chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city
for deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars
who stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the
pigs, decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut
gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop
would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.

Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the

vermin is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public,
spewing invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the
cops turn a blind eye.


clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian 

Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am tempted to not be sore at the bobbies, but they are a lazy lot.  Simpler 
for them to turn a blind eye to misdeeds, as it just involves paperwork and 
does not result in lasting solutions.  Learned helplessness due to the complete 
abrogation of duty by the elected imbeciles.

Parking enforcement only torments the law abiding folk.  The hobo camper scamps 
are ignored, even as they set up lasting encampments on public roadways.  The 
meter maids just scooter past without taking note the half dozen class C crud 
rotting away on the street.   Leaking black water tanks drool cholera and 
stench as discouragement for public strollers.  The property owners are 
bedeviled by parking laws and must move our cars every 72 hours or face a 
magistrate.

The Coleman crowd (more likely discarded REI tents) devastate any open patch of 
ground, be it dirt or cement.  They gather to themselves all manner of items 
stolen from the law abiding and each other.  Furniture, bikes, electronics, 
clothing, and any other product not nailed down firmly finds its way into a 
moat of nasty encircling their tents.  The stench of their effluent is enough 
to keep any less than the most determined away.  The garbage can reach depth 
greater than a meter and cascade down embankments in avalanches of putrescence. 
 

The city council is determined to pass a regulation that would make it a crime 
for the un-hoboed to contribute to the pestilence.  The Royalty of Hobo are 
immune to most, if not all, criminal persecutions. Their vehicles are without 
current registrations.  They pay not taxes and leave their night soil upon the 
streets, after fornicating in broad daylight for all the public to admire.  
They steal with impunity.  Assault women and children, as well as attack and 
strangle tourists.  Last week or so, there was a kerfuffle involving a local 
business owner, who upon exiting her establishment to take her pooch for a 
walk, was accosted by the hounds of hobos.  She and her pup suffered severe 
injuries requiring prolonged (for current medical care) stays at hospital.
The police were reticent to become involved.  The elected SFBs tried to blame 
her for inciting the unrestrained and unlicensed pets.  Though she had filed 
many complaints over the previous year regarding the dangers she and her 
customers had with the the hobo population.

The resolution came when her attorney filed suit for damages and caused 
embarrassment in the press.The legal proceedings continue, but the hobos 
were given the bums’ rush.  At least for the next few weeks.  


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:33 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I suspect of the problem is more political than police. In some
> jurisdictions property damage is not considered a real crime.


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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[G Mann via Mercedes]

If you are not now a member of USCCA, consider becoming one. Part of
membership is access to a 2A attorney, pre vetted by USCCA, available 24/7,
as well as bail and and legal fees. I view it as an "investment in my
future".  If you carry, there is always the possible outcome that you may
be involved in an incident which needs legal representation, even if no
shots are fired.
They also offer legal training, to prepare you better.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:42 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am afeared that any contact I make with the authorities would result in
> one of us dead.
>
> I open carry, but can not do that at work, not even in the vehicle.   I
> was cursing myself for not having the machete in the car yesterday, as I
> had planned on using it for some required real estate upkeep chores.
>
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the
> less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  Is
> there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite your
> reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your public
> servants and their pressing missions?
> >
> > Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer
> be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and
> "mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that is
> far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported Mercedes-Benz
> automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male privilege.
> >
> > What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your
> home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction with
> this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit
> required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> > On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken
> another victim.
> >>
> >> Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who
> had set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution
> sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home
> and screaming at buildings, people and cars.
> >>
> >> A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel
> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like
> monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar,
> just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the
> bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over
> two inches.
> >>
> >> This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.
> A few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do
> their jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After
> providing a description and location, she tells me there have been a number
> of calls reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to
> arrive, sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I
> could chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city
> for deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars
> who stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the
> pigs, decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut
> gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop
> would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
> >>
> >> Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the
> vermin is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public,
> spewing invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the
> cops turn a blind eye.
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >> 1986 SDL - Polei
> >> 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >>
> >> retired models-
> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I suspect of the problem is more political than police. In some
jurisdictions property damage is not considered a real crime.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018, 17:40 clay monroe via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken another
> victim.
>
> Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had
> set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution
> sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home
> and screaming at buildings, people and cars.
>
> A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel
> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like
> monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar,
> just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the
> bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over
> two inches.
>
> This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A
> few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their
> jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a
> description and location, she tells me there have been a number of calls
> reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive,
> sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I could
> chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city for
> deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars who
> stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the
> pigs, decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut
> gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop
> would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
>
> Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the
> vermin is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public,
> spewing invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the
> cops turn a blind eye.
>
>
> clay
>
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>
> retired models-
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The mentally disturbed person who attacked you and your vehicle is probably
related to the mayor or governor . . .

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 5:46 PM clay monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I did alert the local media outlet where this whole sordid mess
> transpired.  Letting them know that there was a violent miscreant just
> outside their studio windows and that it would make a great bleeding lead
> in for the evening news if the hobo were to accost a young lady out for the
> evening, or the child of a family returning home from the ballgame down the
> street.
>
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
>
>
>
> > On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > First, go to the soap box, and make your case.
> >
> > If that fails, go to the ballot box, stump for the candidate that most
> exemplifies your ideals.
> >
> > When that fails, go to the next box, and find an attorney willing to
> plead guilty your case.
> >
> > Last, but most efficient, is Pandora's box.
> >
> > Rick
> > Who thinks it's a matter of "when", not "if".
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Ax handles...

My name is Buford T Pusser and ah come ta git work

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Sep 30, 2018, at 6:41 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I am afeared that any contact I make with the authorities would result in one 
> of us dead.
> 
> I open carry, but can not do that at work, not even in the vehicle.   I was 
> cursing myself for not having the machete in the car yesterday, as I had 
> planned on using it for some required real estate upkeep chores.
> 
> 
> clay monroe
> redgh...@comcast.net
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the less 
>> fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  Is there 
>> a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite your 
>> reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your public 
>> servants and their pressing missions?
>> 
>> Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer be 
>> used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and 
>> "mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that is 
>> far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported Mercedes-Benz 
>> automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male privilege.
>> 
>> What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your 
>> home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction with 
>> this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit required) 
>> or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> 
>>> On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken another 
>>> victim.
>>> 
>>> Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had 
>>> set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution 
>>> sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home 
>>> and screaming at buildings, people and cars.
>>> 
>>> A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel 
>>> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like 
>>> monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar, 
>>> just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the 
>>> bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over 
>>> two inches.
>>> 
>>> This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A 
>>> few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their 
>>> jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a 
>>> description and location, she tells me there have been a number of calls 
>>> reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive, 
>>> sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I could 
>>> chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city for 
>>> deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars who 
>>> stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the 
>>> pigs, decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut 
>>> gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop 
>>> would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
>>> 
>>> Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the 
>>> vermin is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public, 
>>> spewing invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the 
>>> cops turn a blind eye.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>>> 
>>> retired models-
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I did alert the local media outlet where this whole sordid mess transpired.  
Letting them know that there was a violent miscreant just outside their studio 
windows and that it would make a great bleeding lead in for the evening news if 
the hobo were to accost a young lady out for the evening, or the child of a 
family returning home from the ballgame down the street.

clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> First, go to the soap box, and make your case. 
> 
> If that fails, go to the ballot box, stump for the candidate that most 
> exemplifies your ideals. 
> 
> When that fails, go to the next box, and find an attorney willing to plead 
> guilty your case. 
> 
> Last, but most efficient, is Pandora's box. 
> 
> Rick
> Who thinks it's a matter of "when", not "if".
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I am afeared that any contact I make with the authorities would result in one 
of us dead.

I open carry, but can not do that at work, not even in the vehicle.   I was 
cursing myself for not having the machete in the car yesterday, as I had 
planned on using it for some required real estate upkeep chores.


clay monroe
redgh...@comcast.net



> On Sep 30, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the less 
> fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  Is there 
> a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite your 
> reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your public 
> servants and their pressing missions?
> 
> Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer be 
> used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and 
> "mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that is 
> far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported Mercedes-Benz 
> automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male privilege.
> 
> What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your home 
> state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction with this 
> individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit required) or a 
> more energetic device might effectively deal with.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
> On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken another 
>> victim.
>> 
>> Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had set 
>> up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution sign as 
>> a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home and 
>> screaming at buildings, people and cars.
>> 
>> A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel 
>> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like monkey 
>> poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar, just 
>> abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the bare 
>> metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over two 
>> inches.
>> 
>> This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A few 
>> of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their jobs. 
>>  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a 
>> description and location, she tells me there have been a number of calls 
>> reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive, 
>> sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I could 
>> chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city for 
>> deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars who 
>> stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the pigs, 
>> decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut 
>> gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop would 
>> actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
>> 
>> Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the vermin 
>> is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public, spewing 
>> invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the cops turn 
>> a blind eye.
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[G Mann via Mercedes]

To get police to arrive on scene quickly, you must use magic words, like,
"shots fired", or, " the individual appears to be possibly armed and
violent", or, "Please send an ambulance and police, the perp is down from
injuries after attacking innocent citizens, who were forced to defend
themselves."

Alternatively, just hang the bastard from the stop light cross bar with the
rope you carry in the boot and let the cops sort it out when they get
around to it.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2018 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the
> less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.
> Is there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite
> your reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your
> public servants and their pressing missions?
>
> Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer
> be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and
> "mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that
> is far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported
> Mercedes-Benz automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male
> privilege.
>
> What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your
> home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction
> with this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit
> required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
> > Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken
> another victim.
> >
> > Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had
> set up a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution
> sign as a shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home
> and screaming at buildings, people and cars.
> >
> > A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel
> fort. This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like
> monkey poop, at our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar,
> just abaft of the lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the
> bare metal, leaving a dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over
> two inches.
> >
> > This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A
> few of us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their
> jobs.  The idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a
> description and location, she tells me there have been a number of calls
> reporting the same violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive,
> sometime, if i wanted to file a report.  I did want a report, so I could
> chat with insurance, and maybe an ambulance chaser to sue the city for
> deriliction of duty.  After about fifteen minutes, the other four cars who
> stopped after being attacked and getting the same crap answer from the
> pigs, decided they could not spend the rest of the night waiting for donut
> gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting maybe a call or the damn cop
> would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too threw in the towel.
> >
> > Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the
> vermin is still at the location, defecating and urinating in public,
> spewing invective at buildings and families with young children.  And the
> cops turn a blind eye.
> >
> >
> > clay
> >
> > 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> > 1986 SDL - Polei
> > 1982 300 SD - Allen
> >
> > retired models-
> > 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
> > 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> > 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> > 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> > POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

First, go to the soap box, and make your case. 

If that fails, go to the ballot box, stump for the candidate that most 
exemplifies your ideals. 

When that fails, go to the next box, and find an attorney willing to plead 
guilty your case. 

Last, but most efficient, is Pandora's box. 

Rick
Who thinks it's a matter of "when", not "if".
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Re: [MBZ] Horrible Hobo attack last night

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You don't appear to be showing the proper amount of compassion for the 
less fortunate among us.  Perhaps you need to go to a Reeducation Camp.  
Is there a local elected representative whom you might call to expedite 
your reeducation or to advise on how to proceed with respect to your 
public servants and their pressing missions?


Also please note that the term "Hobo" is derisive and should no longer 
be used.  The individual in question is "homeless," "less-fortunate" and 
"mentally-challenged" and requires a healthy measure of compassion that 
is far in excess of whatever happened to your expensive imported 
Mercedes-Benz automobile, which illustrates your wealth and white male 
privilege.


What is the process to obtain a concealed (or open)-carry permit in your 
home state?  One might assume a fear for your life in the interaction 
with this individual, which either mace (if allowed) a taser (if permit 
required) or a more energetic device might effectively deal with.


--FT


On 9/30/18 5:40 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Seattle, the land of snowflakes and all manner of idiocy has taken another 
victim.

Allen (SD) was attacked, while i was driving, by a deranged Hobo who had set up 
a fort with the orange traffic barrels and was using the caution sign as a 
shield.  He was blocking access to the highway on the way home and screaming at 
buildings, people and cars.

A few brave souls decided to attempted to skooch by a gap in his barrel fort. 
This was met by five pound chunks of concrete being flung, like monkey poop, at 
our cars.  Allen suffered a large impact on the C pillar, just abaft of the 
lower corner beside the windscreen.  All the way to the bare metal, leaving a 
dime size chuck hole and some deep divots for over two inches.

This miscreant attacked five other cars in his tirade at that moment.  A few of 
us stopped to contact 911 in hopes the popo would actually do their jobs.  The 
idiot dispatch dame was less than helpful.  After providing a description and 
location, she tells me there have been a number of calls reporting the same 
violence, and I should wait for an officer to arrive, sometime, if i wanted to 
file a report.  I did want a report, so I could chat with insurance, and maybe 
an ambulance chaser to sue the city for deriliction of duty.  After about 
fifteen minutes, the other four cars who stopped after being attacked and 
getting the same crap answer from the pigs, decided they could not spend the 
rest of the night waiting for donut gobblers, and left.  I hung on, expecting 
maybe a call or the damn cop would actually show.Thirty minutes on, I too 
threw in the towel.

Almost 24 hours later, still no call from the goose steppers, and the vermin is 
still at the location, defecating and urinating in public, spewing invective at 
buildings and families with young children.  And the cops turn a blind eye.


clay

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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