Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Kevin Kraly
It must have been a 505 Turbo Diesel as I don't believe that the turbo 
Diesel engine was available in the earlier and more solid 504.  The NA 505 
was about the same as a 240D in performance.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Kevin Kraly wrote:
I like the PooJo 504, seemed to be a very solid car.  My neighbor had 
three of them in the 1980's, 2 '79 Diesel sedans and a '76 Diesel 
Station Wagon. If they weren't so hard to get parts for here in the 
states, I would get one since they are often in the sub Kilobuck bracket.


Do Peugots sell singly, or do they usually come with a couple of parts cars?
Of course, if there's a weak part, and it's broken on all your parts cars, then 
you're stuck with self importing.


Does France have a good internet parts store like Rockauto.com, or a Peugot 
specific one like Rusty?


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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

One month later I saw it
 driving around in the adjacent town. 


Was the door fixed?

My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university.
It needed a shift fork, which I wanted to replace and he wouldn't let me tear 
the transmission apart. As soon as I was gone, he advertised it for $200.
When the bottom of the tailgate had rusted out a few years later, we riveted in 
a full width aluminum patch. I saw that Jeep running around the next summer, 
still with its aluminum/steel tailgate.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yes a 505. I'm then mistaken! I don't have any experience witha 504. It may 
very well be a good solid car.

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On Jul 3, 2011, at 2:54 AM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:

It must have been a 505 Turbo Diesel as I don't believe that the turbo Diesel 
engine was available in the earlier and more solid 504.  The NA 505 was about 
the same as a 240D in performance.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 

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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I don't remember if the door was fixed.

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On Jul 3, 2011, at 7:10 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
One month later I saw it
driving around in the adjacent town. 

Was the door fixed?

My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university.
It needed a shift fork, which I wanted to replace and he wouldn't let me tear 
the transmission apart. As soon as I was gone, he advertised it for $200.
When the bottom of the tailgate had rusted out a few years later, we riveted in 
a full width aluminum patch. I saw that Jeep running around the next summer, 
still with its aluminum/steel tailgate.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Gerry Archer

From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net



Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

One month later I saw it
 driving around in the adjacent town.


Was the door fixed?

My dad sold the Jeepster Commando when I went to university.
It needed a shift fork, which I wanted to replace and he wouldn't let me 
tear the transmission apart. As soon as I was gone, he advertised it for 
$200.
When the bottom of the tailgate had rusted out a few years later, we 
riveted in a full width aluminum patch. I saw that Jeep running around the 
next summer, still with its aluminum/steel tailgate.

Mitch.

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Aluminum and rivets make great body repair parts; probably on a par with
shoe goo and microwave ovens.  Toward the end of it's life
the floorboard under the drivers feet in my '67 200D rusted out  in the back
and sides.  It was very handy because you could push down on it and sweep
dirt and sand out through the crack.
Finally, after son and daughter complained about it several times, I laid 
multiple
layers of aluminum valley on the floorboard and up the sides of the tunnel 
and
side beam, and whacked them into shape with a rubber mallet.  Several 
outdated
and lumpy tubes of window caulking were split open and the contents spread 
on
the aluminum pieces to seal out water.  Then I drilled  and pop-riveted the 
whole

mess in place.
Because of the multiple layers of aluminum valley, the new floor was very 
strong.
It was still in good condition when the White Tornado, as the teenagers 
called it,

met its end in a Georgia junkyard.
Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-03 Thread Mitch Haley



Gerry Archer wrote:

Because of the multiple layers of aluminum valley, the new floor was 
very strong.
It was still in good condition when the White Tornado, as the teenagers 
called it, met its end in a Georgia junkyard.

Gerry

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When the floor failed in my Chevy Citation, the main problem was that the bench 
seat had nothing to attach to on the driver's side.


I solved that with a piece of wolmanized 3/4 plywood, a single layer of 
aluminum flashing, a dozen 1/4 bolts, and a can of rubberized undercoating 
spray. I covered the hole with flashing, bolted down the plywood, bolted the 
seat to the plywood (from then on, the driver sat 3/4 higher than the 
passenger), and sealed it up from underneath with the undercoating.
That floor was in better shape than most of the rest of the car when I drove it 
to the junkyard at 210,000 miles. I broke the 1-2 shift fork and I was not 
willing to pull the tranny on a car that had reached its life expectancy already.
The shift fork was my fault, the anti-wear coating was gone and the fork was 
worn about halfway through at 168k. I didn't want to pay $60 to order a new one 
and wait another week to put the car back together (I'd taken the tranny apart 
because a bolt fell out of the shift interlock and I had a handful of neutrals). 
Looking back on it, I'm lucky it lasted another 40k miles.

I still look back on that 5 door Citation as the best little truck I ever owned.
Fold up the back seat and it had a long flat cargo area, big enough to hold my 
rolling tool chest and all its drawers.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
A one year subscription to the Phewgot discussion list, you do know how 
to speak French?
Apparently though the 505's et al are not bad little cars, don't know 
personally but the ex brother in law used to rave about em and even 
tried to palm off one onto me.


Hendrik
who has never owned a French car

Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik  Fay wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_ZWtQT_X5M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIQ-VXruBME
Anyone care to count them?


I count one Peugot. What do I win?





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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-02 Thread Kevin Kraly
I like the PooJo 504, seemed to be a very solid car.  My neighbor had three 
of them in the 1980's, 2 '79 Diesel sedans and a '76 Diesel Station Wagon. 
If they weren't so hard to get parts for here in the states, I would get one 
since they are often in the sub Kilobuck bracket.


Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 



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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Not nearly as solid as a 123. I think they have head gasket issues. They are 
however nice looking cars.

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On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:11 PM, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:

I like the PooJo 504, seemed to be a very solid car.  My neighbor had three of 
them in the 1980's, 2 '79 Diesel sedans and a '76 Diesel Station Wagon. If they 
weren't so hard to get parts for here in the states, I would get one since they 
are often in the sub Kilobuck bracket.

Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon 

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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-02 Thread Hendrik Fay
Well 1000's of African taxi drivers can't be wrong and then there are 
those two who couldn't quite afford a 123 and had to get the French version.


Hendrik
who is without 123 action but still has parts for them

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

Not nearly as solid as a 123. I think they have head gasket issues. They are 
however nice looking cars.


  



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Re: [MBZ] Hundreds of old stinkers and one Frog

2011-07-02 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Not sure about the head gasket issues but I am sure that they are much flimsier 
than a 123. I owned one for a few months. Story goes... was in high school and 
a friend calls me over to smash his parents car before taking it to the 
scrapyard. It was the peugot turbodiesel. He managed to get one door kicked in 
before I told him to stop. I told him that I'd take it off his hands. It needed 
a tranny rebuild and brakes. He drove it to my house slowly and I parked it in 
the back yard. It stayed there for a few months while I researched the options 
for fixing it. One day a French speaking African vacuum cleaner salesman knocks 
on the door. I didn't express any interest in vacuums but he did express an 
interest in the Peugeot and asked if it was for sale. I said that it could be 
but that he probably wouldn't want it as it had many issues. He insisted and we 
agreed on a price of $250. I took the cash and split the profits with my 
friend. One month later I saw it
 driving around in the adjacent town. 

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On Jul 2, 2011, at 11:20 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

Well 1000's of African taxi drivers can't be wrong and then there are those two 
who couldn't quite afford a 123 and had to get the French version.

Hendrik
who is without 123 action but still has parts for them

Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
Not nearly as solid as a 123. I think they have head gasket issues. They are 
however nice looking cars.


 


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