Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
"I tried to buy a damaged ML six months ago to swap the body panels, but they wanted way too much for it." Yeah, like yours... I have no particular interest in it other than it might be a source for some bits of this and that, esp if the tranny is shot. I might keep in touch with him, it is about an hour or more away, so no real interest to drive up there. For $300 it could offer up some good parts I guess. Strip it down, sell the hulk to the knacker. It's curious why the interior is so beat at only 138kmi, maybe he or a PO had dogs or something. A tranny at the knacker is $300 (or $350, I forget, doesn't matter) so the vehicle is not worth much if you'd have to put that money and time and effort into it, you'd still have a beater. I guess right now it is just a yard ornament, his wife is probably riding him... --FT On 7/4/19 1:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: As Peter mentioned, if it was the torque converter it would make noise all of the time, as the engine would be turning. Same if it was the flex plate. Both are turning at engine speed any time the engine is running. Noises related to being in gear or engaging the transmission would have to be in the planetaries or clutches, as portions of these are not turning unless the transmission is engaged. -D On Jul 4, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:16:14 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392907371328143/ Guy says: "It would make a clunk sound when he would shift into reverse and then it finally went. I think it's linkage broken of into the bell housing. It makes a big racket when you try to put it into gear." Sounds like a torque converter is somehow munched. Never seen inside of one of these, is there anything else it could be? I'm not sure what linkage would be in there, maybe some kind of sprags that let go? It could also be the flex plate ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
No Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > Isn't that the engine that munches timing chain adjusters/tensioners? > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: July 4, 2019 11:48 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that > > Agreed. This is a whole lot of hurt, even if it’s just the transmission. > You’ve got a transfer case to deal with as well. Add to that the body and > interior issues and it’s a parts car. Heck, stuff like the headlight washers > aren’t even there because someone was too lazy to replace or install them > with the new bumper cover. > > I see little to no value here unless you had another you wanted parts for. > Add to this that the owner has an Audi, which tells you a lot right there. > > -D > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 13:06:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > As Peter mentioned, if it was the torque converter it would make noise > all of the time, as the engine would be turning. Same if it was the > flex plate. Both are turning at engine speed any time the engine is > running. Noises related to being in gear or engaging the transmission > would have to be in the planetaries or clutches, as portions of these > are not turning unless the transmission is engaged. Yes, you are correct. I'm still recovering from having a colonoscopy yesterday ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
As Peter mentioned, if it was the torque converter it would make noise all of the time, as the engine would be turning. Same if it was the flex plate. Both are turning at engine speed any time the engine is running. Noises related to being in gear or engaging the transmission would have to be in the planetaries or clutches, as portions of these are not turning unless the transmission is engaged. -D > On Jul 4, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:16:14 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392907371328143/ >> >> Guy says: "It would make a clunk sound when he would shift into >> reverse and then it finally went. I think it's linkage broken of into >> the bell housing. It makes a big racket when you try to put it into >> gear." >> >> Sounds like a torque converter is somehow munched. Never seen inside >> of one of these, is there anything else it could be? I'm not sure what >> linkage would be in there, maybe some kind of sprags that let go? > > It could also be the flex plate ... > > > Craig > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 12:16:14 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392907371328143/ > > Guy says: "It would make a clunk sound when he would shift into > reverse and then it finally went. I think it's linkage broken of into > the bell housing. It makes a big racket when you try to put it into > gear." > > Sounds like a torque converter is somehow munched. Never seen inside > of one of these, is there anything else it could be? I'm not sure what > linkage would be in there, maybe some kind of sprags that let go? It could also be the flex plate ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
Isn't that the engine that munches timing chain adjusters/tensioners? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: July 4, 2019 11:48 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that Agreed. This is a whole lot of hurt, even if it’s just the transmission. You’ve got a transfer case to deal with as well. Add to that the body and interior issues and it’s a parts car. Heck, stuff like the headlight washers aren’t even there because someone was too lazy to replace or install them with the new bumper cover. I see little to no value here unless you had another you wanted parts for. Add to this that the owner has an Audi, which tells you a lot right there. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
Agreed. This is a whole lot of hurt, even if it’s just the transmission. You’ve got a transfer case to deal with as well. Add to that the body and interior issues and it’s a parts car. Heck, stuff like the headlight washers aren’t even there because someone was too lazy to replace or install them with the new bumper cover. I see little to no value here unless you had another you wanted parts for. Add to this that the owner has an Audi, which tells you a lot right there. -D > On Jul 4, 2019, at 12:16 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392907371328143/ > > Guy says: "It would make a clunk sound when he would shift into reverse and > then it finally went. I think it's linkage broken of into the bell housing. > It makes a big racket when you try to put it into gear." > > Sounds like a torque converter is somehow munched. Never seen inside of one > of these, is there anything else it could be? I'm not sure what linkage > would be in there, maybe some kind of sprags that let go? > > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
Maybe 500 Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 4, 2019, at 11:16 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392907371328143/ > > Guy says: "It would make a clunk sound when he would shift into reverse and > then it finally went. I think it's linkage broken of into the bell housing. > It makes a big racket when you try to put it into gear." > > Sounds like a torque converter is somehow munched. Never seen inside of one > of these, is there anything else it could be? I'm not sure what linkage > would be in there, maybe some kind of sprags that let go? > > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm thinking $300 max for parts, maybe not even that
More likely a trashed gear set. Torque converter would rattle any time the engine is turning. Ditto for the front pump. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
