Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?

2006-03-27 Thread Jim Cathey
So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of 
All Time, Space, and Dimension.
Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from 
the MBs (read "diesels") I've had throughout the years?


Best bang for the buck for a daily driver would probably be a double
timing chain 380.  '84 and '85 had the double row chain from the
factory; don't even consider an earlier model that hasn't been
converted. By now all the single chain cars have likely either been
converted or blown up, unless you find a very low mileage example.
Double row chains still need to be replaced every, I think, 100k miles.


Yes, V8's are much harder on chains than I6's, that poor chain
goes through a lot more serious bends on its way around.


They were pretty slow (US versions had 155 hp), which keeps the price
down, but have Type III climate control, reliable CIS fuel injection,
and are full of that old-school Mercedes build- and engineering 
quality.


You can of course go a little older and ditch the ACC systems
altogether.  I wouldn't go quite so old as to get into the D-Jet
FI system.   Our for-sale '76 model has been actually quite
reliable on the whole once its years of neglect were sorted out.
The freak torque converter failure (prior to our ownership) was the
only weird thing, a rare but not-unheard-of metallurgical failure
that didn't do any real harm, just made it dog-slow off the line.
We have driven it a lot, during its time as a daily driver it got
the second-most mileage piled on it next to the SDL.  It always
went.  It was just down a lot from time to time because I couldn't
keep from trying to enhance it!  Anyway here's the link:

http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLsale.html



Make sure you have any prospects professionally inspected; that 
aluminum

V8 is NOT inexpensive to fix.  Everything else on or wrong with the car
should come as no surprise to anyone with 123 experience.


Yeah, I agree.  As a gasser it's going to wear the valves more than
a diesel, I'm led to expect that top-end work may well be needed if
you drive them enough.

The 107 body, like the 114/115/116, is a rust magnet but fortunately
many more of them were treated well.  If you stay on top of it and
keep them out of the salt they hold up just fine.

I love the 107, that's why we have three of them.  I love my wife,
that's why I'm trying to sell one!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?

2006-03-27 Thread tom savage

Bob Rentfro wrote:


So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All Time, 
Space, and Dimension.
Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the MBs (read "diesels") I've had throughout the years? 


Best bang for the buck for a daily driver would probably be a double 
timing chain 380.  '84 and '85 had the double row chain from the 
factory; don't even consider an earlier model that hasn't been 
converted. By now all the single chain cars have likely either been 
converted or blown up, unless you find a very low mileage example. 
Double row chains still need to be replaced every, I think, 100k miles.


They were pretty slow (US versions had 155 hp), which keeps the price 
down, but have Type III climate control, reliable CIS fuel injection, 
and are full of that old-school Mercedes build- and engineering quality. 
 Your wife won't know it is the slowest and often considered least 
desirable of the 107s if you don't tell her.


Make sure you have any prospects professionally inspected; that aluminum 
V8 is NOT inexpensive to fix.  Everything else on or wrong with the car 
should come as no surprise to anyone with 123 experience.


Tom



Re: [MBZ] Is There a Bulletproof SL?

2006-03-27 Thread Loren Faeth

Buy a 107 or 113 and put an OM 617 in it.  (Preferably with a 5 speed)

Short of that, the 380s with the dual chain are quite reasonable.  I think 
84 and 85 came from the factory with the dual chain.  My daughter has an 85 
and it has been serviceable, except for a starter failure that took almost 
2 weeks to get a starter here.  (DHL, not Rusty)  If you don't want a show 
car, the 380s can be reasonably priced.  Someone else can tell you the 
break between single and dual chain by VIN.  Of course a lot of the single 
chain cars have been converted, but there is no way to tell without taking 
off a valve cover.


The later models with the self storing hard top are nice, but pricey.  Buy 
my daughter an SLK 230 and she will give you her 107.


At 08:27 AM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
So...let's say I was going to buy an SL of some sort for The Queen of All 
Time, Space, and Dimension.
Have any proven to be bulletproof ala what I have come to expect from the 
MBs (read "diesels") I've had throughout the years?


Thanks for ideas

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 151K
Litchfield Park, AZ
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