Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-19 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 That *shouldn't* work with Windows 10, the permissions *shouldn't* let you.
Linux generally will step right around those permissions...
-Curt

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, 10:49:24 PM EDT, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 It's brute force but you should be able to remove the old hard drive then 
stick it in a docking station (connected to another computer) and pull files 
off the drive.  After that wipe the old drive and install a fresh OS.  
Or you could boot from a bootable CD or USB and get the files that way.

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> Thanks Kaleb. I'll try Ultimate Boot CD.
> Gerry
> 
> Kaleb Striplin wrote:
> > I believe ultimate boot cd has a tool to remove or recover windows system
> passwords. It is free.
> >
> > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a
> password.
> > > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but
> aren't much good for anything else.
> > > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop 
> > > hard
> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> > > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage
> to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > > TIA,
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-19 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Thanks Russ.
Gerry

Russ Williams wrote:
> You won't find a Win Activation Code sticker on the bottom.
> And you can't use a program to get it off the computer.
> Win10 uses a digital ID that is stored on MS's servers.
> Download the Win10 iso create a dvd or stick. Wipe the drive during
> instillation. When asked for a product key chose I Don't Have One option.
> After installing do all the updates. By this time 10 will talk to the 
> servers
> and activate with the digital license.
> You can use Ultimate CD to get the version of Win 10 that's installed.
> 10 will ask what version you want during the install process.
> Any questions feel free to email me and I'll answer.
> 
> Russ W.
> Technical Director  Cajun Clickers Computer Club

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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
I don't have a docking station, but do have several old laptops. Seems like 
that might work. Also have several bootable CDs or might be able to download 
one from a game-playing Win10 computer which might be more compatible. 

Scott Ritchey wrote:
> It's brute force but you should be able to remove the old hard drive then 
> stick it in a docking station (connected to another computer) and pull files 
> off the drive.  After that wipe the old drive and install a fresh OS.  
> Or you could boot from a bootable CD or USB and get the files that way.
> 
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> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer
> > 
> > Thanks Kaleb. I'll try Ultimate Boot CD.
> > Gerry
> > 
> > Kaleb Striplin wrote:
> > > I believe ultimate boot cd has a tool to remove or recover windows system
> > passwords. It is free.
> > >
> > > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have 
> > > > a
> > password.
> > > > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but
> > aren't much good for anything else.
> > > > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop 
> > > > hard
> > drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> > > > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I 
> > > > manage
> > to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> > > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > > > TIA,
> > > > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes

You won't find a Win Activation Code sticker on the bottom.
And you can't use a program to get it off the computer.
Win10 uses a digital ID that is stored on MS's servers.
Download the Win10 iso create a dvd or stick. Wipe the drive during
instillation. When asked for a product key chose I Don't Have One option.
After installing do all the updates. By this time 10 will talk to the 
servers

and activate with the digital license.
You can use Ultimate CD to get the version of Win 10 that's installed.
10 will ask what version you want during the install process.
Any questions feel free to email me and I'll answer.

Russ W.
Technical Director  Cajun Clickers Computer Club

On 6/18/2019 1:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

If you don't want to preserve anything on the machine, just
reinstall. That's probably best anyway if you don't know the history of
the machine.

You can create installation media from the Microsoft website,
boot from that, and reinstall Windows. The Windows activation code
sticker on the laptop should work to activate it.

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10

Allan

archer75--- via Mercedes  writes:


Windows 10.
Gerry

Dan wrote:


What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.

-D


On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
wrote:


A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
password.
I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't much 
good for anything else.
I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage to 
get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
All suggestions appreciated.
TIA,
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
It's brute force but you should be able to remove the old hard drive then stick 
it in a docking station (connected to another computer) and pull files off the 
drive.  After that wipe the old drive and install a fresh OS.  
Or you could boot from a bootable CD or USB and get the files that way.

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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer
> 
> Thanks Kaleb. I'll try Ultimate Boot CD.
> Gerry
> 
> Kaleb Striplin wrote:
> > I believe ultimate boot cd has a tool to remove or recover windows system
> passwords. It is free.
> >
> > > On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a
> password.
> > > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but
> aren't much good for anything else.
> > > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop 
> > > hard
> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> > > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage
> to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > > TIA,
> > > Gerry
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Thanks for the links and references, Craig. If I can't restore this computer to 
normal operation, it won't be because of lack of information. The expertise 
available on this group is remarkable!
Gerry

Craig wrote:

Dan Penoff wrote:
> 
> > If you were an enterprise user you could use the MS tool MSDart. Not
> > sure if it’s available to non-customers, however.
> > 
> > Ultimate Boot CD is another good tool for resetting or unlocking
> > machines:
> 
> The Ultimate Boot CD's web page is at
> 
> https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
> 
> Its download page, https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html, also has
> helpful information and checksums to check whether you have a good
> download or not:
> 
> -
> Please note that UBCD currently does not support UEFI Boot. If you have
> a UEFI machine, please remember to turn on CSM Boot in your BIOS.
> 
> Current release: V5.3.8
> 
> Download format: ISO image
>Size: 695MB
>   Checksums:
> [MD5] bede539499ee6fe9cfbb5e2a7ccf370e
> [SHA1   ] cb2156f279fb5631d012ba0e9b1c1843af3004d6
> [SHA-256] 4b959e13dd6c6b643f70dca5e45277671585da02aced11711055ae11e4a9f3ac
> -
> 
> BTW, I did a checksum on the ISO image I downloaded from majorgeeks.com
> and it is good, which means using majorgeeks.com for that is OK.
> 
> 
> > https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/5_bootable_isos_to_boot_and_repair_your_computer_for_free.html
> 
> Major Geeks has a lot of stuff besides UBCD, particularly for "fixing"
> Windows.
> 
> Is that stuff any good?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 18 Jun 2019 08:40:43 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> If you were an enterprise user you could use the MS tool MSDart. Not
> sure if it’s available to non-customers, however.
> 
> Ultimate Boot CD is another good tool for resetting or unlocking
> machines:

The Ultimate Boot CD's web page is at

https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/

Its download page, https://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html, also has
helpful information and checksums to check whether you have a good
download or not:

-
Please note that UBCD currently does not support UEFI Boot. If you have
a UEFI machine, please remember to turn on CSM Boot in your BIOS.

Current release: V5.3.8

Download format: ISO image
   Size: 695MB
  Checksums:
[MD5] bede539499ee6fe9cfbb5e2a7ccf370e
[SHA1   ] cb2156f279fb5631d012ba0e9b1c1843af3004d6
[SHA-256] 4b959e13dd6c6b643f70dca5e45277671585da02aced11711055ae11e4a9f3ac
-

BTW, I did a checksum on the ISO image I downloaded from majorgeeks.com
and it is good, which means using majorgeeks.com for that is OK.


> https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/5_bootable_isos_to_boot_and_repair_your_computer_for_free.html

Major Geeks has a lot of stuff besides UBCD, particularly for "fixing"
Windows.

Is that stuff any good?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
If you don't want to preserve anything on the machine, just
reinstall. That's probably best anyway if you don't know the history of
the machine.

You can create installation media from the Microsoft website,
boot from that, and reinstall Windows. The Windows activation code
sticker on the laptop should work to activate it.

https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows10

Allan

archer75--- via Mercedes  writes:

> Windows 10.
> Gerry
>
> Dan wrote:
>
>> What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
>> > password.
>> > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
>> > much good for anything else. 
>> > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop 
>> > hard drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try 
>> > first.
>> > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage 
>> > to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
>> > All suggestions appreciated.
>> > TIA,
>> > Gerry
>> > 

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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Thanks Kaleb. I'll try Ultimate Boot CD.
Gerry

Kaleb Striplin wrote:
> I believe ultimate boot cd has a tool to remove or recover windows system 
> passwords. It is free. 
> 
> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 12:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
> > password.
> > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
> > much good for anything else. 
> > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
> > drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage 
> > to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> > All suggestions appreciated.
> > TIA,
> > Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Thanks Dan. I'll try Ultimate Boot CD.
Gerry

Dan Penoff wrote:

> If you were an enterprise user you could use the MS tool MSDart. Not sure if 
> it’s available to non-customers, however.
> 
> Ultimate Boot CD is another good tool for resetting or unlocking machines:
> 
> https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/5_bootable_isos_to_boot_and_repair_your_computer_for_free.html
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Windows 10.
> > Gerry
> > 
> > Dan wrote:
> > 
> >> What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
> >>> password.
> >>> I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
> >>> much good for anything else. 
> >>> I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop 
> >>> hard drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try 
> >>> first.
> >>> My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage 
> >>> to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> >>> All suggestions appreciated.
> >>> TIA,
> >>> Gerry
> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you were an enterprise user you could use the MS tool MSDart. Not sure if 
it’s available to non-customers, however.

Ultimate Boot CD is another good tool for resetting or unlocking machines:

https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/5_bootable_isos_to_boot_and_repair_your_computer_for_free.html

-D



> On Jun 18, 2019, at 8:05 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Windows 10.
> Gerry
> 
> Dan wrote:
> 
>> What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
>>> password.
>>> I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
>>> much good for anything else. 
>>> I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
>>> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
>>> My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage 
>>> to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
>>> All suggestions appreciated.
>>> TIA,
>>> Gerry
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I believe ultimate boot cd has a tool to remove or recover windows system 
passwords. It is free. 

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> 
> A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
> password.
> I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't much 
> good for anything else. 
> I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage to 
> get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> All suggestions appreciated.
> TIA,
> Gerry
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
Windows 10.
Gerry

Dan wrote:

> What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
> > password.
> > I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
> > much good for anything else. 
> > I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
> > drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> > My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage 
> > to get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> > All suggestions appreciated.
> > TIA,
> > Gerry
> > 
> > ---
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> > https://www.avg.com
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
There’s a little bootable Linux (or something) file that will find the Windows 
password and wipe it or reset it it. I vaguely recall using one once, maybe 
booting off a CD or USB stick. You have to intercept the boot and go into BIOS 
and tell it to boot off wherever the file is. 

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> On Jun 18, 2019, at 6:36 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
>> password.
>> I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't 
>> much good for anything else. 
>> I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
>> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
>> My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage to 
>> get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
>> All suggestions appreciated.
>> TIA,
>> Gerry
>> 
>> ---
>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
>> https://www.avg.com
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Re: [MBZ] Locked Computer

2019-06-18 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
What OS is it running? That will determine how to unlock it.

-D

> On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:43 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> A friend gave me a new, locked Toshiba laptop for which he doesn't have a 
> password.
> I seem to remember that such computers make good boat anchors but aren't much 
> good for anything else. 
> I have several old programs for wiping hard drives, and several laptop hard 
> drives that might fit the Toshiba, but I've forgotten what to try first.
> My friend would like me to save several items on the computer if I manage to 
> get into it, but it's okay if I can't save them.
> All suggestions appreciated.
> TIA,
> Gerry
> 
> ---
> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
> https://www.avg.com
> 
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