Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
Rich Thomas wrote: Well, in this case he had a good conversation with the guy, who appeared genuinely interested in his abilities and was trying to think of how he would fit in the company. So, if not that company, maybe the guy had some other contacts. Most jobs come from networking, so that is one way to do it. And asking takes all of 5 seconds, and the worst that can happen is the guy says, "no" but you might plant a seed for the guy to think in the future of this other guy he talked to in the past. So, what's the downside? Stop being such a cynic. I was thinking in terms of "I really want to work with you guys" until the moment where it became impossible to work with those guys. Then I would say "I really want to work". Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
Well, in this case he had a good conversation with the guy, who appeared genuinely interested in his abilities and was trying to think of how he would fit in the company. So, if not that company, maybe the guy had some other contacts. Most jobs come from networking, so that is one way to do it. And asking takes all of 5 seconds, and the worst that can happen is the guy says, "no" but you might plant a seed for the guy to think in the future of this other guy he talked to in the past. So, what's the downside? Stop being such a cynic. --R On 7/12/13 11:28 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: You also want to ask him for any other possibilities he might be aware of in other companies, and perhaps for a referral. After the "kiss off" letter from the company, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
Rich Thomas wrote: You also want to ask him for any other possibilities he might be aware of in other companies, and perhaps for a referral. After the "kiss off" letter from the company, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
A good learning experience, anyway, even if it doesn't directly produce and offer. 'Good prep for the next one. 'Hope all goes well. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Craig" To: "mercedes" Sent: Friday, July 12, 2013 12:34 AM Subject: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview Thank you all for your prayers and for your interest in my situation. I prepared for the interview by reading this morning an article, "Interview Questions Candidates Should Ask" and searching on Google for the interviewer's name and his company's name. The article pointed out that interviewing is a two-way street. You have to convince the person who is interviewing you that they need to hire you, but they need to convince you just as much as you need to convince them. The fit for the position has to go both ways. The Google search turned up a lot of interesting information and gave me more insight into the company and their activities than the company's website did. My interviewer was relaxed and open in his interviewing and told me what he was thinking, as if we were friends. I felt little pressure in the interview. He would make a good supervisor. The interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me more about the need for "fit" in a position. After talking about our weather and that he had worked here at LANL, he asked me about my RF experience and the type of engineering work I had done. also He asked me about my experience with high-power RF amplifiers and vacuum systems. He asked me my experiences in proposal writing; I told him about my work with them at the Lab in a time of falling budgets with one proposal I wrote being stuck on the desk of a program manager at the Lab's main Technical Area and the other being held up by DOE in Washington, D.C., where one group to whom the proposal was submitted decided they did not want to work out the details of classified matter with another DOE group. He said my CV was quite impressive, but also said he was trying to figure out where I might fit in at Nokomis. In our discussions, I mentioned several things I had learned about the company -- he was impressed by my knowledge of the company. At one point, I asked about the new building they were supposed to have been in by the end of 2010. He said they were not in the new building, that things had not worked out as planned. When I commented, "I understand that," referring to my proposals, he laughed, knowing I knew how that felt. He said that their technical staff write proposals and that they had considered me to potentially lead up new efforts and act as a scientist who has a lot of experience to help business developement. He again said he was trying to figure out where I might fit at Nokomis and that he wasn't perfectly comfortable right now. The interview took about one-half hour. In thinking about the position and what the company did, even before the interview, I was wondering myself how I might fit in. That came about because the job ad to which I applied was very generic and did not mention what one might be doing. So, the interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me more about the need for "fit" in a position. The folks at Nokomis were impressed by my CV (and even called me because of it) but the fit just wasn't there. My interviewer said I would hear from them, but my guess it will probably be from the recruiter and will probably be a "thank you for applying." God bless, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 9:34 PM, Craig wrote: > > So, the interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me > more about the need for "fit" in a position. The folks at Nokomis were > impressed by my CV (and even called me because of it) but the fit just > wasn't there. My interviewer said I would hear from them, but my guess it > will probably be from the recruiter and will probably be a "thank you for > applying." > > It sounds like you got a lot out of the interview even if it didn't seem like it was going to lead to a job. I have to commend your tenacity and positive attitude, Craig, especially considering how long you have been out of work! I'm just two weeks into a job search myself and already feeling the pressure; I hope I can persevere the way you have if it comes to that. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokomis Interview
You also want to ask him for any other possibilities he might be aware of in other companies, and perhaps for a referral. Sounds like you are progressing. --R On 7/12/13 12:34 AM, Craig wrote: Thank you all for your prayers and for your interest in my situation. I prepared for the interview by reading this morning an article, "Interview Questions Candidates Should Ask" and searching on Google for the interviewer's name and his company's name. The article pointed out that interviewing is a two-way street. You have to convince the person who is interviewing you that they need to hire you, but they need to convince you just as much as you need to convince them. The fit for the position has to go both ways. The Google search turned up a lot of interesting information and gave me more insight into the company and their activities than the company's website did. My interviewer was relaxed and open in his interviewing and told me what he was thinking, as if we were friends. I felt little pressure in the interview. He would make a good supervisor. The interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me more about the need for "fit" in a position. After talking about our weather and that he had worked here at LANL, he asked me about my RF experience and the type of engineering work I had done. also He asked me about my experience with high-power RF amplifiers and vacuum systems. He asked me my experiences in proposal writing; I told him about my work with them at the Lab in a time of falling budgets with one proposal I wrote being stuck on the desk of a program manager at the Lab's main Technical Area and the other being held up by DOE in Washington, D.C., where one group to whom the proposal was submitted decided they did not want to work out the details of classified matter with another DOE group. He said my CV was quite impressive, but also said he was trying to figure out where I might fit in at Nokomis. In our discussions, I mentioned several things I had learned about the company -- he was impressed by my knowledge of the company. At one point, I asked about the new building they were supposed to have been in by the end of 2010. He said they were not in the new building, that things had not worked out as planned. When I commented, "I understand that," referring to my proposals, he laughed, knowing I knew how that felt. He said that their technical staff write proposals and that they had considered me to potentially lead up new efforts and act as a scientist who has a lot of experience to help business developement. He again said he was trying to figure out where I might fit at Nokomis and that he wasn't perfectly comfortable right now. The interview took about one-half hour. In thinking about the position and what the company did, even before the interview, I was wondering myself how I might fit in. That came about because the job ad to which I applied was very generic and did not mention what one might be doing. So, the interview was a worthwhile experience I enjoyed; it taught me more about the need for "fit" in a position. The folks at Nokomis were impressed by my CV (and even called me because of it) but the fit just wasn't there. My interviewer said I would hear from them, but my guess it will probably be from the recruiter and will probably be a "thank you for applying." God bless, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
