Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for PayPal.
It isn't like I am back in NYC or DC!   :-)

On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Craig McCluskey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 21:18:56 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
> Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a
> debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the
> particulars, but they are noticable.
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Mitch Haley
Craig McCluskey wrote:
> 
> Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a
> debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the
> particulars, but they are noticable.

That's correct, although the networks (Visa, M/C) do voluntarily give
some of the protections to debit cards, at least if you process the
charge in the manner that runs it though them (signature, not PIN). 
Another reason to use credit cards, besides warranty and chargebacks, 
is that credit card companies pay me a couple thousand a year and
I'm not eager to give that up. (signup bonuses, 2-5% cash back on
purchases, 0% interest loans sitting in high yield savings for a year)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Wonko the Sane
We live in entirely different economic environments. I buy diesel (and,
regrettably, gas for Debbie's Buick) on the debit card. I buy groceries on
the debit card. I do PayPal for eBay on the debit card. Other than that, I
take money out of the ATM and pull out some $20s.

About the only reason I can think of to have a credit card is to rent a car.
Last time I rented a car was in 1995, when I flew to Indy to give Debbie her
engagement ring.

Story here: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/debdon.html

Call me, if you will, a former/reformed Yuppie who decided that Visa was
only Satan trying to screw me over. Personally, I think every credit card VP
should be taken out and shot as a war criminal. These are the folks who have
fu**ed over our economy while they got rich on corporate bonuses.

For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't buying
it.

D.


On Sat, Feb 23, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Another reason to use credit cards, besides warranty and chargebacks,
> is that credit card companies pay me a couple thousand a year and
> I'm not eager to give that up. (signup bonuses, 2-5% cash back on
> purchases, 0% interest loans sitting in high yield savings for a year)
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-23 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sat, 23 Feb 2008 22:25:49 -0600 "Wonko the Sane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't
> buying it.

I didn't say you should use credit cards for the credit they can provide.
You can use them as if they were debit cards -- which is really the only
way they should be used.

I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
However, you have much less protection when you use a
debit card than when you use a credit card.

This topic came up on the local news just the other day.  Credit cards have 
more fraud protection than debit cards.  Most likely, if someone somehow 
steals your card or gets the number and drains your account, you'll have to 
pay for it.  According to the report, it's just the opposite with a credit 
card due to the level of protection offered.  Also, fringe benefits such as 
free or cheaper extended warranties and buyer's protection insurance only 
come with a credit card.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kevin Kraly
I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month.

More of us should live this way.  It's oh so easy to overspend and end up 
just paying half of it and carry it over to the next month, BT, DT!  It's 
nice to have that credit there for an emergency too.

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Jeff Zedic
On 24/02/2008, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month.
>
> In the credit card industry, a person doing thsi is known as a "deadbeat"!
What does that tell you about them?

Zedic
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Mitch Haley
Wonko the Insane wrote:
> 
> I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for PayPal.

Debit card? Paypal? You just got two letters added to your last name
for a month. 
Do yourself a favor. Join Penfed.org. Apply for their 5% cashback fuel
card (5% of at the pump purchases credited to your balance every month)
and link that to your Paypal instead of the debit card. While you're
browsing at Penfed, compare their mortgage and HEL rates to your present
mortgage. Maybe a 4.99%, 20 year fixed HEL would be better than you're
paying now. 
https://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/mortgages/homeEquity.asp
https://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/creditCards/RewardCards.asp

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Yup, if you don't do that those bastards will put your
account in a revolving balance and you'll end up
paying interest on a purchase you made one minute ago.
Dimitri
--- Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month.
> 
> More of us should live this way.  It's oh so easy to
> overspend and end up 
> just paying half of it and carry it over to the next
> month, BT, DT!  It's 
> nice to have that credit there for an emergency too.
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
You do not get the same protections from a fake visa or mc as you do 
from a real one.

Mitch Haley wrote:
> Craig McCluskey wrote:
>> Good ideas there. However, you have much less protection when you use a
>> debit card than when you use a credit card. I can't rattle off the
>> particulars, but they are noticable.
> 
> That's correct, although the networks (Visa, M/C) do voluntarily give
> some of the protections to debit cards, at least if you process the
> charge in the manner that runs it though them (signature, not PIN). 
> Another reason to use credit cards, besides warranty and chargebacks, 
> is that credit card companies pay me a couple thousand a year and
> I'm not eager to give that up. (signup bonuses, 2-5% cash back on
> purchases, 0% interest loans sitting in high yield savings for a year)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Good for you, way to go.  Should everybody who doesnt follow this 
lifestyle be shot?

Wonko the Sane wrote:
> We live in entirely different economic environments. I buy diesel (and,
> regrettably, gas for Debbie's Buick) on the debit card. I buy groceries on
> the debit card. I do PayPal for eBay on the debit card. Other than that, I
> take money out of the ATM and pull out some $20s.
> 
> About the only reason I can think of to have a credit card is to rent a car.
> Last time I rented a car was in 1995, when I flew to Indy to give Debbie her
> engagement ring.
> 
> Story here: http://don.homelinux.net/~don/debdon.html
> 
> Call me, if you will, a former/reformed Yuppie who decided that Visa was
> only Satan trying to screw me over. Personally, I think every credit card VP
> should be taken out and shot as a war criminal. These are the folks who have
> fu**ed over our economy while they got rich on corporate bonuses.
> 
> For me, it is a cash economy. If I can't pay for it today, I ain't buying
> it.
> 
> D.

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  84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 81 380SLC, 80 240D, 76 240D,
  76 300D, 72 250C, 69 250
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread MG
It tells me that the credit card companies deserve to have more people 
doing this.

Manfred

Who also pays them off every month so I must be a deadbeat and proud of 
it! Damed if they'll make any usurious money off of me.

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 07:32:47 -0600
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On 24/02/2008, Kevin Kraly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 >
 > I use a credit card but pay my bill off every month.
 >
 > In the credit card industry, a person doing thsi is known as a
  "deadbeat"!
What does that tell you about them?

Zedic

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Curt Raymond

Good advice the stories about Paypal draining somebody's bank account due to 
some trumped up fraud charge are very frightening.
Having your cc there protects you.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:02:42 -0500
From: Mitch Haley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Wonko the Insane wrote:
> 
> I live in Jefferson, Iowa. I use the debit card at the ATM and for
 PayPal.

Debit card? Paypal? You just got two letters added to your last name
for a month. 
Do yourself a favor. Join Penfed.org. Apply for their 5% cashback fuel
card (5% of at the pump purchases credited to your balance every month)
and link that to your Paypal instead of the debit card. While you're
browsing at Penfed, compare their mortgage and HEL rates to your
 present
mortgage. Maybe a 4.99%, 20 year fixed HEL would be better than you're
paying now. 
https://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/mortgages/homeEquity.asp
https://www.penfed.org/productsAndRates/creditCards/RewardCards.asp





   
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Debit cards [was Re: W220 rust]

2008-02-24 Thread Ed Booher
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Good advice the stories about Paypal draining somebody's bank account due
> to some trumped up fraud charge are very frightening.
> Having your cc there protects you.
>
> -Curt


I heard about some of those horror stories about PayPal, so I opened an
account with a completely different bank. Hardly ever more than $20 in
there, but it's good for having a "confirmed" PayPal account, or what ever,
and for buying the occasional cheap item from eBay or iTunes.

Ed

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