Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-10 Thread Curt Raymond
Holy crap they're even made in the USA!

Onto my Christmas list. I'm on economy measures, trying to save up some cash. A 
portion of our roof has to be replaced, which in itself is no big deal but if 
the contractor comes up with a good enough deal I'll have him do the whole 
thing...

-Curt


Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2013 23:47:14 -0500
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Curt
Williams - Sonoma has these on sale
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/usa-pan-goldtouch-nonstick-loaf-pan/?bnrid=3102206&cm_ven=E3&cm_cat=EDM&cm_pla=0909_BrevilleOven_HE&cm_ite=bnr_1Ball&cm_em=rawil...@gmail.com
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-09 Thread Russ Williams

Curt
Williams - Sonoma has these on sale
http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/usa-pan-goldtouch-nonstick-loaf-pan/?bnrid=3102206&cm_ven=E3&cm_cat=EDM&cm_pla=0909_BrevilleOven_HE&cm_ite=bnr_1Ball&cm_em=rawil...@gmail.com


On 9/8/2013 10:56, Curt Raymond wrote:

Hand kneading is too much like real work.

King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the 
factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common 
thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the 
special bread flour thats only available at the factory.

The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've 
ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use 
anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
From: Peter Frederick 
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We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my

grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly
quickly else it molds.

Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.

My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that
KitchenAid is great.

If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non-
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.

Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a
bit, then bake.

Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-09 Thread Mountain Man
drfaty wrote:
> i do admire...

We have a bucket of Bob's Red Mill gluten with about 20 pounds
remaining - for the shipping, or for barter.  Anyone?  Tell me more
about the pans, Peter - please.  Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Gary Hurst
i do admire many elements of your lifestyle, gordon


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM, Mountain Man  wrote:

> Peter wrote:
> > I've got some nice tinned
> > steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just
> > too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know what to do with
> > them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.
>
> Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread?  What size are they?
>  What price do you need?  Do you drink Assam tea? as barter?
>
> All this talk of flour.  Doesn't anyone grind their own flour?  We
> grind our flour and make bread by hand knead.  We make a very tasty
> sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty.
> Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have
> quit using gluten entirely.  I forget what got us away from gluten.
> We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough.
> Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground.  My first grinder
> I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread.  Then I
> bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine
> motor and let electricity do the work.  A friend had a nice wood cased
> electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in
> McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was
> best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone
> grinder.
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Mountain Man
Peter wrote:
> I've got some nice tinned
> steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago that are just
> too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know what to do with
> them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.

Maybe sell them to someone here that makes bread?  What size are they?
 What price do you need?  Do you drink Assam tea? as barter?

All this talk of flour.  Doesn't anyone grind their own flour?  We
grind our flour and make bread by hand knead.  We make a very tasty
sourdough Polish bread that is full of different seeds and tasty.
Also, we used to add gluten to bread to make a better loaf but have
quit using gluten entirely.  I forget what got us away from gluten.
We usually make rye with molasses and then also the Polish sourdough.
Bread is too nice to not make at home, fresh ground.  My first grinder
I would spend 2 hours grinding by hand for a batch of bread.  Then I
bought some sheaves and belts at grainger, added a washing machine
motor and let electricity do the work.  A friend had a nice wood cased
electric grinder that was attractive, but when I called Retsel in
McCammon, ID, the guy convinced me that ugly but fully cleanable was
best, so we use the Retsel - not cheap, but very durable stone
grinder.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Complete with toxins from China?

I'm looking for something not-coated and made in the USA, I'll coat with butter 
my own self.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2013 14:00:27 -0400
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I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are 
Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out 
easily.  THey have a red coating on them.

--R


On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is 
> acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too 
> big...
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Try adding some quinoa to the mix. We got some bread that has it from Whole 
Foods, it gives a neat nutty flavor. Also adds a complete protein to the bread 
making it much more nutritious.

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:50:43 -0500
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We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it
the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the
front door, no muss, no fuss.
By adding "gluten flour", you can use any other combination and still get a
nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans
altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone.
Works great.
I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with
some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it -
been using it for 30+ years now.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Rich Thomas
I got some non-stick glass loaf pans from Walmart (I think they are 
Corning or something like that) that work great as the loaves pop out 
easily.  THey have a red coating on them.


--R


On 9/8/13 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread OK Don
We use all whole grain flours from Bob's Red Mill. You can find some of it
the stores, but we've taken to ordering it from them - it arrives at the
front door, no muss, no fuss.
By adding "gluten flour", you can use any other combination and still get a
nice textured loaf. My wife has also stopped using the bread pans
altogether - just forms long rounded loafs and bakes them on a pizza stone.
Works great.
I think the current version uses spelt and buckwheat flours primarily, with
some of the gluten flour. Yes, the Kitchen Aid is great for kneading it -
been using it for 30+ years now.


On Sun, Sep 8, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> Hand kneading is too much like real work.
>
> King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to
> the factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a
> common thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up
> some of the special bread flour thats only available at the factory.
>
> The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best
> I've ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely
> use anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.
>
> I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is
> acceptable but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is
> too big...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
> From: Peter Frederick 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
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>
> We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my
> grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).
> Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly
> quickly else it molds.
>
> Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found
> around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.
>
> My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the
> yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for
> half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right
> consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.
> You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that
> KitchenAid is great.
>
> If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non-
> wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if
> they have more time to absorb water before kneading.
>
> Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a
> bit, then bake.
>
> Best thing going, homemade bread!
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Peter Frederick

My pans are roughly 8x4x3 hxwxd.  Makes a perfect sized loaf.

Good luck finding something that size, though.  I've got some nice  
tinned steel pans I bought from Williams-Sonoma about 30 years ago  
that are just too big and don't have straight enough side.  Don't know  
what to do with them, too nice to toss out but I never use them.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
Hand kneading is too much like real work.

King Arthur flour is from Vermont. My wife's aunt and her pals go right to the 
factory every November for their holiday orders, apparently its quite a common 
thing for ladies in New England. I'm going to ask her to pick me up some of the 
special bread flour thats only available at the factory.

The Hecker's stuff I posted comes from my local IGA and is about the best I've 
ever worked with. High gluten bread flour with great flavor. I rarely use 
anything else although I do want to try the special as noted above.

I need to find some real loaf pans, I've got a silicone one which is acceptable 
but the sides are too weak and its a 1 1/2 pound pan which is too big...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 10:03:59 -0500
From: Peter Frederick 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes
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We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my  
grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).  
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly  
quickly else it molds.

Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found  
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.

My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the  
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for  
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right  
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.  
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that  
KitchenAid is great.

If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- 
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if  
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.

Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a  
bit, then bake.

Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Peter Frederick
We have some standard 1 pound loaf pans that got passed down from my  
grandmother (which means they date from the 1920s, I suspect).   
Perfect loaf of bread size as one must use homemade bread fairly  
quickly else it molds.


Use real bread flour -- King Arthur is about the best I've found  
around here.  Most grocery store flour is way too weak for good bread.


My favorite way of making bread involves mixing most of the flour, the  
yeast, shortening, and liquid into a stiff mix and letting it sit for  
half an hour or so, then adding enough flour to get the right  
consistency for bread, then knead with the KitchenAid until ready.   
You can knead by hand if you have the time and strength, but that  
KitchenAid is great.


If you want whole wheat, rye, or something like that, mix the non- 
wheat or whole wheat flour into the mix first, they all work better if  
they have more time to absorb water before kneading.


Let it rise a while, form into loaves, toss into the pans, let rise a  
bit, then bake.


Best thing going, homemade bread!

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-08 Thread Curt Raymond
You're not getting good enough bread. I make my own the intensely lazy way 
http://www.motherearthnews.com/real-food/easy-no-knead-dutch-oven-crusty-bread.aspx
With high quality unbleached flour http://www.heckersceresota.com/
and the results are fantastic. I mostly cook in the dutch oven as detailed 
above but occasionally I'll do it in a loaf pan. I need to get a smaller loaf 
pan, the one I have produces some weird loaves because its so big.

-Curt

Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 19:00:49 -0400
From: Gary Hurst 
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i've become more anti wheat than anti gluten.  i find whole rye a good sub
for whole wheat


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
> just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
> less than in all white flour waffles.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Gary Hurst
i've become more anti wheat than anti gluten.  i find whole rye a good sub
for whole wheat


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
> just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
> less than in all white flour waffles.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
> > years to the longevity estimate.
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:
> >
> > > Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my
> > father's
> > > and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
> > > Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk
> anymore
> > > (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for
> cooking/baking.
> > > Works great.
> > >
> > > We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit
> of
> > > sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff
> from
> > > blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
> > > > longer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > OK Don
> > > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> > > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
> > taxes."
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> > > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread OK Don
NO, but we have reduced our gluten intake considerably. My wife's bread is
just too good to abandon. The waffles are not gluten free - but there's
less than in all white flour waffles.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
> years to the longevity estimate.
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:
>
> > Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my
> father's
> > and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
> > Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
> > (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
> > Works great.
> >
> > We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
> > sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
> > blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > >wrote:
> >
> > > Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
> > > longer.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> > "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
> > safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
> > "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and
> taxes."
> > - Benjamin Franklin 1789
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> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Are you following a gluten free diet?  if so, tack on an additional 10
years to the longevity estimate.


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 3:14 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my father's
> and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
> Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
> (weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
> Works great.
>
> We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
> sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
> blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  >wrote:
>
> > Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
> > longer.
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
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> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread OK Don
Yea, but what good will it do me when my brain dies first, like my father's
and his father's did? I like them, so that's why I make them that way.
Yogurt lasts longer in the fridge than milk, so we don't buy milk anymore
(weren't drinking it anyway) - just dilute the yogurt for cooking/baking.
Works great.

We make blueberry sauce from the large bags of frozen berries, an bit of
sugar (1 cup per 3 lbs) and some tapioca flour - get the goos stuff from
blueberries with the waffles almost every morning :-)


On Sat, Sep 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

> Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
> longer.
>
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
Don, with that diet you will live long, as in forever or perhaps even
longer.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 9:31 PM, OK Don  wrote:

> My current waffle/pancake batter includes spelt, kamut, oatmeal, flax seed
> meal, buckwheat and/or rye, a bunch of eggs, a bunch of chopped walnuts,
> and no-fat yogurt diuted 2/3rds with water. Oh yes, a bit of salt, baking
> powder and baking soda. My wife approves :-)
> I'll have to add some fine corn meal - try that out.
>
> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Rich Thomas <
> richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:
>
> > Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter
> > too) -- muy sabrosa!
> >
> > --R
> >
>
>
>
> --
> OK Don
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> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775
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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-06 Thread OK Don
My current waffle/pancake batter includes spelt, kamut, oatmeal, flax seed
meal, buckwheat and/or rye, a bunch of eggs, a bunch of chopped walnuts,
and no-fat yogurt diuted 2/3rds with water. Oh yes, a bit of salt, baking
powder and baking soda. My wife approves :-)
I'll have to add some fine corn meal - try that out.

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Rich Thomas <
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> wrote:

> Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter
> too) -- muy sabrosa!
>
> --R
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT - buymbparts is drinking tea and eating pancakes

2013-09-06 Thread Rich Thomas
Throw in some fine corn meal with that pancake batter (and waffle batter 
too) -- muy sabrosa!


--R




On 9/6/13 6:17 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

My father used to make his own pancake mix which included yeast. Those things 
were pretty puffed up and tasty.

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On Sep 6, 2013, at 5:59 PM, Randy Bennell  wrote:


On 06/09/2013 4:33 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

The "crispy pancake" list.

Dan

My father would never have fit in - he made gooey pancakes.

A foot in diameter and 3/4 of an inch thick - burnt on the outside and gooey in 
the middle.

Wierd as he was a reasonably good cook - just not with pancakes.

Randy

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