Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
Absolutely, its amazing what even cheap snow tires can do. The problem in something like a Crown Vic is the power to weight ratio is not in your favor for snow driving, thats going to make it tail happy. As far as I'm concerned a 240D manual trans with good snow tires is the perfect snow vehicle, decent ground clearance, not much power, good suspension, good control and good feedback. To get better you need 4wd which tends to encourage overconfidence and gets you into trouble... That said my Dodge 1500 with General Grabber AT2 tires eats snow for lunch. We got 8" of snow when we were at camp last November, my Dodge was unstoppable heading in and out of camp. One of the other guys had a Chevy with "all season" road tires and got stuck. -Curt On Friday, October 4, 2019, 5:17:00 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 04/10/2019 4:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > I had a 2002 Crown Vic for a company car. It was a boat and really lousy in > the snow, but was an otherwise reliable and actually pretty economical car to > drive. Very comfy, too. > > -D Lousy in the snow was likely a matter of the tires as much as anything. Good winter tires make a huge difference to most vehicles. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
Then they either were not good winter tires or you needed some weight in the trunk. Front heavy vehicles are sometimes not so wonderful in snow. I had a short box Chevy pickup that would not back out of our driveway unless there was some weight in the box. Current ice radials generally work pretty well. Randy On 04/10/2019 4:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Not in this case. Even with snow tires it couldn’t climb my sloped driveway if there was snow on it. -D On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: On 04/10/2019 4:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: I had a 2002 Crown Vic for a company car. It was a boat and really lousy in the snow, but was an otherwise reliable and actually pretty economical car to drive. Very comfy, too. -D Lousy in the snow was likely a matter of the tires as much as anything. Good winter tires make a huge difference to most vehicles. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
I see a USN battle lantern in the pix. Worst flashlight ever. Conversation piece more than anything else. The Sony HDTV is pretty cheap, but don't need one at the moment. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On October 4, 2019 4:00:37 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >I bought the 78 300CD from one of their sales, they had it listed for >&5k or something insane, I tried to talk sense into the tchatchke woman > >selling all the house trinkets, she was having no discussion of >reality, >thought it was like some super Ferrari or something. At the end of the > >sale, no one else had expressed interest in the car so she turned me >over to the woman's boyfriend of 30 years or whatver, and we made the >deal. > > >http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001PPhoCrQHHJsumr9vfFM_c3mTXtb1VAiOsw4KPCqPiQBlMLUKfk42kJeDPrXjbIoo76SMgbcm_DgT5fQ1cb444EAENyQk0R_y410tVJ-325-82z0fSz6oDWV6XSRk__IFZ-kPgrVG4PLKuvtUiaSNtg===6WE6QyGwHmU1FOE4GzC-3eg2xPBYb2iaCauYC5HkYE3OzybK25ETJQ===WhRPB1ZzhMp4E2Nw-TalkTkJ3t1Vlu1yMt5UMY0z-4b2ViB-_Jukew== > > >*2006 Grand Marquis, 80K miles, brand new battery, one owner, $2500 >open >(Photos will be added later today.) > >Above listed items will start at the opening price and we will accept >offers ABOVE those amounts moving in $250 or higher increments. > >All parties leaving offers will be given the opportunity to increase >their offers as many times as necessary. > >Above items will be given as much time as necessary to assure proper >vetting, but they will not be closed out earlier than Monday post sale. > >-- >--FT > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
Not in this case. Even with snow tires it couldn’t climb my sloped driveway if there was snow on it. -D > On Oct 4, 2019, at 5:16 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 04/10/2019 4:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> I had a 2002 Crown Vic for a company car. It was a boat and really lousy in >> the snow, but was an otherwise reliable and actually pretty economical car >> to drive. Very comfy, too. >> >> -D > > Lousy in the snow was likely a matter of the tires as much as anything. Good > winter tires make a huge difference to most vehicles. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
On 04/10/2019 4:11 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: I had a 2002 Crown Vic for a company car. It was a boat and really lousy in the snow, but was an otherwise reliable and actually pretty economical car to drive. Very comfy, too. -D Lousy in the snow was likely a matter of the tires as much as anything. Good winter tires make a huge difference to most vehicles. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
I had a 2002 Crown Vic for a company car. It was a boat and really lousy in the snow, but was an otherwise reliable and actually pretty economical car to drive. Very comfy, too. -D > On Oct 4, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > I like the Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria but I would want the 2011 which I > believe is the last year they were made. I had one of each as rental cars > back when they were new and they were nice cars. > > Randy > >> On 04/10/2019 3:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >> I bought the 78 300CD from one of their sales, they had it listed for &5k or >> something insane, I tried to talk sense into the tchatchke woman selling all >> the house trinkets, she was having no discussion of reality, thought it was >> like some super Ferrari or something. At the end of the sale, no one else >> had expressed interest in the car so she turned me over to the woman's >> boyfriend of 30 years or whatver, and we made the deal. >> >> >> http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001PPhoCrQHHJsumr9vfFM_c3mTXtb1VAiOsw4KPCqPiQBlMLUKfk42kJeDPrXjbIoo76SMgbcm_DgT5fQ1cb444EAENyQk0R_y410tVJ-325-82z0fSz6oDWV6XSRk__IFZ-kPgrVG4PLKuvtUiaSNtg===6WE6QyGwHmU1FOE4GzC-3eg2xPBYb2iaCauYC5HkYE3OzybK25ETJQ===WhRPB1ZzhMp4E2Nw-TalkTkJ3t1Vlu1yMt5UMY0z-4b2ViB-_Jukew== >> >> >> >> *2006 Grand Marquis, 80K miles, brand new battery, one owner, $2500 open >> (Photos will be added later today.) >> >> Above listed items will start at the opening price and we will accept offers >> ABOVE those amounts moving in $250 or higher increments. >> >> All parties leaving offers will be given the opportunity to increase their >> offers as many times as necessary. >> >> Above items will be given as much time as necessary to assure proper >> vetting, but they will not be closed out earlier than Monday post sale. >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Old man Merkree
I like the Grand Marquis and Crown Victoria but I would want the 2011 which I believe is the last year they were made. I had one of each as rental cars back when they were new and they were nice cars. Randy On 04/10/2019 3:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: I bought the 78 300CD from one of their sales, they had it listed for &5k or something insane, I tried to talk sense into the tchatchke woman selling all the house trinkets, she was having no discussion of reality, thought it was like some super Ferrari or something. At the end of the sale, no one else had expressed interest in the car so she turned me over to the woman's boyfriend of 30 years or whatver, and we made the deal. http://r20.rs6.net/tn.jsp?f=001PPhoCrQHHJsumr9vfFM_c3mTXtb1VAiOsw4KPCqPiQBlMLUKfk42kJeDPrXjbIoo76SMgbcm_DgT5fQ1cb444EAENyQk0R_y410tVJ-325-82z0fSz6oDWV6XSRk__IFZ-kPgrVG4PLKuvtUiaSNtg===6WE6QyGwHmU1FOE4GzC-3eg2xPBYb2iaCauYC5HkYE3OzybK25ETJQ===WhRPB1ZzhMp4E2Nw-TalkTkJ3t1Vlu1yMt5UMY0z-4b2ViB-_Jukew== *2006 Grand Marquis, 80K miles, brand new battery, one owner, $2500 open (Photos will be added later today.) Above listed items will start at the opening price and we will accept offers ABOVE those amounts moving in $250 or higher increments. All parties leaving offers will be given the opportunity to increase their offers as many times as necessary. Above items will be given as much time as necessary to assure proper vetting, but they will not be closed out earlier than Monday post sale. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com