Re: [MBZ] OT Stupid Question... Excellent Answer!

2013-02-18 Thread Curt Raymond
I agree with you, Snopes is still right though. If somebody came right out and 
said that there would be hell to pay. Maybe not publicly but they'd be at best 
ostracized...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:00:15 -0500
From: Mitch Haley 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Stupid Question... Excellent Answer!
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Max Dillon wrote:
> Ok, but it IS still a great comeback!


I was surprised that Snopes would say this, given the owners' usually obvious 
left bias:
"...this anecdote illustrates in a humorous way the difference between having 
the ability to do something and allowing that ability to dictate one's life 
choices."

But they had to spoil it with "...if an armed forces spokesperson gave voice to 
a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a prostitute in a public 
interview, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very public apology 
as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming."

I see nothing "sexist" in the story, the fictitious military officer simply 
objected to the fictitious reporter's prejudiced statement by comparing it to 
another prejudiced statement which she wouldn't agree with.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Stupid Question... Excellent Answer!

2013-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Max Dillon wrote:

Ok, but it IS still a great comeback!



I was surprised that Snopes would say this, given the owners' usually obvious 
left bias:
"...this anecdote illustrates in a humorous way the difference between having 
the ability to do something and allowing that ability to dictate one's life 
choices."


But they had to spoil it with "...if an armed forces spokesperson gave voice to 
a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a prostitute in a public 
interview, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very public apology 
as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming."


I see nothing "sexist" in the story, the fictitious military officer simply 
objected to the fictitious reporter's prejudiced statement by comparing it to 
another prejudiced statement which she wouldn't agree with.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Stupid Question... Excellent Answer!

2013-02-18 Thread Max Dillon
Ok, but it IS still a great comeback!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'95 E300, '87 300TD, '73 Balboa 20

Mitch Haley  wrote:

>I knew I'd been seeing that for years, but never looked it up before
>today.
>Mitch.
>
> From Snopes:
>
>
>Those who support gun rights and believe responsible gun ownership
>begins with 
>teaching young people the right way to handle firearms at an early age
>have a 
>great fondness for this story. As well they should, because this
>anecdote 
>illustrates in a humorous way the difference between having the ability
>to do 
>something and allowing that ability to dictate one's life choices.
>
>Origins:   As apposite a tale as this might be, it's purely a product 
>fabrication and not an excerpt from a real interview. It began
>circulating on 
>the Internet in 1999 as a quote attributed to an "LTG Reinwald" of the
>U.S. Army, it reappeared in 2001 attributed to "Marine Corps General
>Reinwald," 
>and it came back in 2007 in a version featuring Australian general
>Peter Cosgrove.
>
>When this item initially appeared in 1999, the U.S. Army denied that
>there was a 
>Lieutenant General Reinwald among their ranks and chalked the whole
>thing up as 
>a hoax. (Which is as logic dictated all along: if an armed forces
>spokesperson 
>gave voice to a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a
>prostitute in a 
>public interview, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very
>public 
>apology as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming.)
>
>National Public Radio had this to say about the matter:
>"We are aware of an erroneous story posted on the Free Republic
>Website, and 
>possibly elsewhere, which mentions a supposed interview between an
>unnamed NPR 
>reporter and a U.S. Army Lieutenant General Reinwald. The story is
>false — the 
>dialogue mentioned was not an NPR interview, and it never aired on any
>NPR program."
>
>Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/reinwald.asp
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Stupid Question... Excellent Answer!

2013-02-18 Thread Mitch Haley

I knew I'd been seeing that for years, but never looked it up before today.
Mitch.

From Snopes:


Those who support gun rights and believe responsible gun ownership begins with 
teaching young people the right way to handle firearms at an early age have a 
great fondness for this story. As well they should, because this anecdote 
illustrates in a humorous way the difference between having the ability to do 
something and allowing that ability to dictate one's life choices.


Origins:   As apposite a tale as this might be, it's purely a product 
fabrication and not an excerpt from a real interview. It began circulating on 
the Internet in 1999 as a quote attributed to an "LTG Reinwald" of the
U.S. Army, it reappeared in 2001 attributed to "Marine Corps General Reinwald," 
and it came back in 2007 in a version featuring Australian general Peter Cosgrove.


When this item initially appeared in 1999, the U.S. Army denied that there was a 
Lieutenant General Reinwald among their ranks and chalked the whole thing up as 
a hoax. (Which is as logic dictated all along: if an armed forces spokesperson 
gave voice to a sexist remark likening a female interviewer to a prostitute in a 
public interview, that officer would soon be called upon to make a very public 
apology as well as face charges within ranks for conduct unbecoming.)


National Public Radio had this to say about the matter:
"We are aware of an erroneous story posted on the Free Republic Website, and 
possibly elsewhere, which mentions a supposed interview between an unnamed NPR 
reporter and a U.S. Army Lieutenant General Reinwald. The story is false — the 
dialogue mentioned was not an NPR interview, and it never aired on any NPR program."


Read more at http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/reinwald.asp

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