Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
Have you tried using a hair dryer to warm the portion of the seal which you're having problems with? Good luck. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
Hi, The hooked hose removal tools offer a safe removal and install tool! Watch the glass! Ed in Chicago Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have tried soapy water, silicone grease, light tapping with a rubber > mallet and lots of hand pressure trying to coax this seal into the > channel. > For more hours than I care to admit For general gentle prying I find an old carbon-steel butter knife to be a very handy tool. Thin, strong, and flexible. excellent for tucking and poking, not quite sharp enough to cut if you use care. Otherwise, I have absolutely no clue. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
Hi, Dielectric Grease IS silicone! I coat the rubber seal to water proof and during installtion! Campers tent spray at Wal-Mart is a cheaper substitute. Ed in Chicago LarryT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I had a similar problem with an opening rear quarter window w'strip - worked on it for hours as you mentioned with the same results. Then I had a windshield replaced in another car - talked to the technician - he took the problem parts and within 5 minutes had it together! I looked at the can of silicon he was using - it was a 3M product labelled Silicon Spray - he said there's silicone and then there's *Silicone* - he said WD40 is not pure enough - as is most other sprays. He gave me the can he was using and it lasted a long time. You can also use an oyster knife to work the w'strip into place - the blade is dull so it will not cut the rubber if used with care. I suggest you take the frame, glass and w'strip to a glass shop and ask if they will fix it for you - or perhaps they will give or sell a can of spray silicone. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD >> I have tried soapy water, silicone grease, light tapping with a rubber >> mallet and lots of hand pressure trying to coax this seal into the >> channel. >> For more hours than I care to admit > > For general gentle prying I find an old carbon-steel butter > knife to be a very handy tool. Thin, strong, and flexible. > excellent for tucking and poking, not quite sharp enough to > cut if you use care. > > Otherwise, I have absolutely no clue. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1122 - Release Date: > 11/10/2007 10:41 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
LarryT wrote: >- he said > there's silicone and then there's *Silicone* - he said WD40 is not pure > enough - as is most other sprays. He gave me the can he was using and it > lasted a long time. Thanks for the tip, it's good to know that not all silicone sprays are created equal. It explains why some silicone sprays dissolve plastics. WD40 is mostly kerosene, I don't think it has any silicone in it, but I could be wrong. IIRC, the penetrant in WD40 is DMSO. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
I had a similar problem with an opening rear quarter window w'strip - worked on it for hours as you mentioned with the same results. Then I had a windshield replaced in another car - talked to the technician - he took the problem parts and within 5 minutes had it together! I looked at the can of silicon he was using - it was a 3M product labelled Silicon Spray - he said there's silicone and then there's *Silicone* - he said WD40 is not pure enough - as is most other sprays. He gave me the can he was using and it lasted a long time. You can also use an oyster knife to work the w'strip into place - the blade is dull so it will not cut the rubber if used with care. I suggest you take the frame, glass and w'strip to a glass shop and ask if they will fix it for you - or perhaps they will give or sell a can of spray silicone. Good luck - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . - Original Message - From: "Jim Cathey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2007 2:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD >> I have tried soapy water, silicone grease, light tapping with a rubber >> mallet and lots of hand pressure trying to coax this seal into the >> channel. >> For more hours than I care to admit > > For general gentle prying I find an old carbon-steel butter > knife to be a very handy tool. Thin, strong, and flexible. > excellent for tucking and poking, not quite sharp enough to > cut if you use care. > > Otherwise, I have absolutely no clue. > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1122 - Release Date: > 11/10/2007 10:41 AM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
Never did that particular job but have had the same problem getting a seal into a groove or getting a part into a seal; especially an old, stiff seal. Did you try sliding the well lubricated seal into the groove from one end since it's L shaped? Did you try reversing the procedure and inserting the 45 degree projection first? I keep a handful of the cheapest putty knives of all different widths and use them as "sliders" to install rubber seals. With a well lubricated seal, I'll have a putty knife on each side while pushing a segment of the seal down in the groove. As the seal seats, I'll keep sliding the putty knives forward until I come to a sharp turn. Then I'll use a very narrow putty knife or even a broad bit screwdriver ground very flat to work it around the turn, or even an ice pick which sometimes works. Sometimes a wide putty knife works where a narrow putty knife doesn't. It sounds like no one on the group has ever done that job or is familiar with the part. Good luck, Gerry > One more time, hasn't anybody out there done this job before? > > If anyone out there has done this, I sure would appreciate their comments. > > I am replacing the glass in the quarter window. There is a large "L" > shape > metal frame that the window rubber seal needs to be attached to, which in > turn is attached to the vehicle by pulling the rubber lip over the edge of > the window cut out and then a couple of sheet metal screws hold the whole > thing to the body > > The window rubber seal has a 45 degree angled projection that runs half > way > around the seal, that needs to be inserted (somehow) into a channel on the > metal frame. > > I have tried soapy water, silicone grease, light tapping with a rubber > mallet and lots of hand pressure trying to coax this seal into the > channel. > For more hours than I care to admit > > Any ideas from the group will be appreciated. > > Marshall in Feenix where diesel is now selling for $3.55 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.28/1123 - Release Date: > 11/10/2007 3:47 PM > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rear quarter window replacement '81 300TD
> I have tried soapy water, silicone grease, light tapping with a rubber > mallet and lots of hand pressure trying to coax this seal into the > channel. > For more hours than I care to admit For general gentle prying I find an old carbon-steel butter knife to be a very handy tool. Thin, strong, and flexible. excellent for tucking and poking, not quite sharp enough to cut if you use care. Otherwise, I have absolutely no clue. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
