Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

You'd really have to crush a W123 very badly to rupture the tank since it's 
inside the "no crush zone" of the passenger compartment.

This is true of well for earlier models as the floor of the turn folds upward 
and the tank itself is in a very strong "box" of frame members.  

The tank behind the seat was a big safety thing in those days, and car fires in 
Mercedes after collisions are very, very rare.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Many thanks to Dan, Kaleb, and others. I looked under the armrest but missed it.
Gerry

Dan Penoff wrote:
> If there were bolts in the trunk they would be sticking into the fuel tank.
> The only bolts on the rear upper seat cushion in a W123 are the outboard ones 
> and the center one below the center armrest.  Once these are removed you just 
> have to lift up sharply to disengage the hook along the top of the seat frame.
 -D
> 
> > On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Check in the trunk for protruding bolts if you haven't already done so..
> > 
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Remove screw in middle too
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Listers:
> >>> Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83
> >> 240D? I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small
> >> screw out at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up
> >> out of the slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
> >>> The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but
> >> the right one seems to be stuck.
> >>> This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold
> >> in the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
> >>> I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
> >>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

124 also has the fuel tank in trunk behind the back seat.

Probably about the safest place to put the tank, between rear wheels and
big crush area behind it.  A collision severe enough to damage the fuel
tank in that location is likely going to be too severe for any passenger to
survive, so if they are made into crispy critters after the collision, they
probably won't feel it.

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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Does it help calling it the front of the trunk, furthest from an impact?
Same place.

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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I thought that was a fire hazard in the case of a rear end collision.

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:17 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> W115 tanks (and earlier?) are under the trunk floor.  W123 tanks are behind
> the rear seat.  Same as W126, R/C107, W201, and (I think) W210.
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

W115 tanks (and earlier?) are under the trunk floor.  W123 tanks are behind
the rear seat.  Same as W126, R/C107, W201, and (I think) W210.

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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wagon fuel tanks yes, sedan fuel tanks no.

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Charleston SC

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Isn't the fuel tank UNDER the trunk floor?
>
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Isn't the fuel tank UNDER the trunk floor?

On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 9:55 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If there were bolts in the trunk they would be sticking into the fuel tank.
>
> The only bolts on the rear upper seat cushion in a W123 are the outboard
> ones and the center one below the center armrest.  Once these are removed
> you just have to lift up sharply to disengage the hook along the top of the
> seat frame.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Check in the trunk for protruding bolts if you haven't already done so..
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Remove screw in middle too
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Listers:
> >>> Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83
> >> 240D? I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small
> >> screw out at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to
> slide up
> >> out of the slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
> >>> The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but
> >> the right one seems to be stuck.
> >>> This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those
> sold
> >> in the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
> >>> I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
> >>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If there were bolts in the trunk they would be sticking into the fuel tank.

The only bolts on the rear upper seat cushion in a W123 are the outboard ones 
and the center one below the center armrest.  Once these are removed you just 
have to lift up sharply to disengage the hook along the top of the seat frame.

-D

> On Mar 20, 2018, at 9:44 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Check in the trunk for protruding bolts if you haven't already done so..
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Remove screw in middle too
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Listers:
>>> Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83
>> 240D? I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small
>> screw out at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up
>> out of the slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
>>> The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but
>> the right one seems to be stuck.
>>> This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold
>> in the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
>>> I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
>>> Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Check in the trunk for protruding bolts if you haven't already done so..

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 11:47 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Remove screw in middle too
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Listers:
> > Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83
> 240D? I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small
> screw out at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up
> out of the slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
> > The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but
> the right one seems to be stuck.
> > This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold
> in the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
> > I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
> > Gerry
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Remove screw in middle too

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers:
> Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83 240D? 
> I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small screw out 
> at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up out of the 
> slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
> The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but the 
> right one seems to be stuck.
> This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold in 
> the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
> I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
> Gerry
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