Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread John Robbins
Alex Chamberlain wrote:
 John Robbins wrote:
 Sounds about right to me just given the numbers.  Maybe $300 for parts
 (custom mixed paint, mostly) and then the rest for labor at about
 $30/hr?  But why so much labor---are they planning to strip all the
 trim in order to paint?

I have no idea... I think it was just a worst case thing (I hope!) since 
I can imagine a lot of people getting pissy about it costing $400 more 
than an estimate.  For normal stuff thats probably not a problem 
(replacing bent up bumpers, etc), but this problem they won't really 
know how long till they get the window out.

Next time I go back there I'll ask them what all they plan on taking off 
(I don't think the trim that goes up the side of the window down the 
rest of the car is removable is it?)

John

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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/1/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Next time I go back there I'll ask them what all they plan on taking off
 (I don't think the trim that goes up the side of the window down the
 rest of the car is removable is it?)

The black strip that runs along the edge of the roof, where the
raingutter is on an older car?  If your '92 is like my '87, it is
indeed removable.  When I had my windshield replaced last summer, the
installers popped each side off in one piece, continuous (just as it
appears to be) with the molding up the sides of the windshield.  They
got it back on with no apparent damage, too (although this was a shop
recommended by my mechanic, with a lot of experience with old
Mercedes).

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al

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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread LWB250
You must have a special tool or have made one to
reinstall the rain gutter trim on the 123 chassis.  I
would not encourage anyone who doesn't have the tool
or access to one to attempt replacement, as it's a
near-impossible job without it.

That's not to say you can't do it (I have) but having
BTDT, it is not for the faint of heart, a car with a
fresh paint job, or one with limited manual dexterity.

It's especially difficult if you're using new trim, as
it has to be formed to match the shape of the car.  If
you don't know what you're doing, you'll almost
definitely screw it up, or if you're living right,
have parts of it that won't stay in place and want to
pop off all the time.

Dan (who has field stripped 123 and 126 chassis cars
and has the scars to show for it)


--- Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 8/1/07, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Next time I go back there I'll ask them what all
 they plan on taking off
  (I don't think the trim that goes up the side of
 the window down the
  rest of the car is removable is it?)
 
 The black strip that runs along the edge of the
 roof, where the
 raingutter is on an older car?  If your '92 is like
 my '87, it is
 indeed removable.  When I had my windshield replaced
 last summer, the
 installers popped each side off in one piece,
 continuous (just as it
 appears to be) with the molding up the sides of the
 windshield.  They
 got it back on with no apparent damage, too
 (although this was a shop
 recommended by my mechanic, with a lot of experience
 with old
 Mercedes).
 
 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo et al
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On 8/1/07, LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You must have a special tool or have made one to
 reinstall the rain gutter trim on the 123 chassis.  I
 would not encourage anyone who doesn't have the tool
 or access to one to attempt replacement, as it's a
 near-impossible job without it.

John and I are talking about 124s here.  :)  I'm sure you are right
about the 123, Dan---if anyone knows you would!

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread LWB250
Sorry about that!

IIRC, the 126 and 124 rain gutter trim is held on by
some phillips head screws from the bottom of the door
frames, isn't it?

Dan


--- Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 John and I are talking about 124s here.  :)  I'm
 sure you are right
 about the 123, Dan---if anyone knows you would!
 
 Alex
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-08-01 Thread John Robbins
LWB250 wrote:
 IIRC, the 126 and 124 rain gutter trim is held on by
 some phillips head screws from the bottom of the door
 frames, isn't it?

Thanks guys for all the info!  So it appears that this estimate is 
fairly inline, and that there isn't a very specific tool needed (like 
the 123 cars).  Good stuff to know :)  Hopefully when they get in there 
they don't find tons more :(

John

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Re: [MBZ] Rust repair cost (124)

2007-07-31 Thread Alex Chamberlain
John Robbins wrote:
 I've got a little bit of rust near the top of the windshield.  It doesn't
 look like much, but I'm sure its horrible underneath the windshield seal.
 Either the rust or a bad seal is causing a *lot* of wind noise and even some
 water to leak in from that area.  I was quoted just under $1000 for this
 repair (and thats if they can re-use the windshield! Add another 200 for a
 PPG replacement).  The biggest cost was nearly 12 hours of labor for body
 work, and another 10 hours for paint prep and painting.

Sounds about right to me just given the numbers.  Maybe $300 for parts
(custom mixed paint, mostly) and then the rest for labor at about
$30/hr?  But why so much labor---are they planning to strip all the
trim in order to paint?

Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al

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