Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
I would not know why, but he seems to have a personal issue, or just thinks he 
can do underhanded deals

clay

On May 2, 2016, at 5:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

> He's jerking you around?  You personally?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On May 2, 2016 7:51:26 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
>> The guy already saw the car, knew the car, and purchased another SL
>> just last week from the same seller.  That he made only one bid, the
>> last one at the end of the auction is a mystery
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse
>> or realized "where am I going to get the money?"
>>> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract"
>> many people just see it as a game...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>> 
>>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out? 
>> Just
>>> to be a d*ck?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the
>> feedback
>>>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>>>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what
>> people
>>>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up
>> completed
>>>> to the high bidder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and
>> told
>>>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few
>> days to
>>>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> clay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater
>> deal
>>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted
>> me in
>>>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he
>> shows up
>>>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an
>> eye on
>>>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car. 
>> Probably full
>>>> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason
>> to
>>>> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop
>> called me to
>>>> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
>>>> checked email and found the old mail

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
He's jerking you around?  You personally?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On May 2, 2016 7:51:26 PM EDT, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>The guy already saw the car, knew the car, and purchased another SL
>just last week from the same seller.  That he made only one bid, the
>last one at the end of the auction is a mystery
>
>clay
>
>
>
>On May 2, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse
>or realized "where am I going to get the money?"
>> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract"
>many people just see it as a game...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> 
>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out? 
>Just
>> to be a d*ck?
>> 
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the
>feedback
>>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what
>people
>>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up
>completed
>>> to the high bidder.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes
><mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and
>told
>>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few
>days to
>>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> clay
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater
>deal
>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted
>me in
>>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he
>shows up
>>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an
>eye on
>>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car. 
>Probably full
>>> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason
>to
>>> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop
>called me to
>>> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
>>> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to
>bottom
>>> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by
>to pay
>>> for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k
>less
>>> than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and
>get some
>>> pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was
>getting no
>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at
>$

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
The guy already saw the car, knew the car, and purchased another SL just last 
week from the same seller.  That he made only one bid, the last one at the end 
of the auction is a mystery

clay



On May 2, 2016, at 12:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
> people just see it as a game...
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> 
> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
> to be a d*ck?
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>> to the high bidder.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>> 
>>>> clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in
>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up
>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on
>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full
>> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to
>> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to
>> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
>> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom
>> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay
>> for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less
>> than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some
>> pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no
>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700
>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all
>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the
>> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I
>> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the
>> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well
>> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has
>> the chance to buy the 1977 SL for m

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
YEP, he was the last bidder and knew the car's condition

clay

On May 2, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
> to be a d*ck?
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>> to the high bidder.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>> 
>>>> clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>>   From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in
>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up
>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on
>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full
>> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to
>> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to
>> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
>> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom
>> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay
>> for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less
>> than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some
>> pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no
>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700
>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all
>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the
>> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I
>> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the
>> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well
>> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has
>> the chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!
>> He has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up
>> bidder who took it past $4k on his bids.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> clay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>>>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>>>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>>>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>>>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>>>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Niger

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
Because he is a prick.

He already spent $7k on the really nice 74 450SL and looked at the 77 last 
week.  I do not know what possessed him to do a snipe bid at the last moments.  
It was all good until he screwed up the bids, and the second chance guy is not 
going to pay his full bid, but the lowest he made.



On May 2, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

> Why is the guy backing out?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told them 
>> he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to make 
>> fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>> 
>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
>>>> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in 
>>>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up 
>>>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on 
>>>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably 
>>>> full of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason 
>>>> to drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called 
>>>> me to make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but 
>>>> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom 
>>>> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to 
>>>> pay for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k 
>>>> less than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get 
>>>> some pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>>> 
>>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>>>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all 
>>>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when 
>>>> the '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it 
>>>> ran.  I said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of 
>>>> cleaning the moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and 
>>>> drove well enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
>>>> 
>>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>>>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He 
>>>> has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder 
>>>> who took it past $4k on his bids.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> clay 
>>>> 
>>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's everything. That's why I quit selling parts. People would bid on a cheap 
part, condition fully described and photographed, and they get it and demand a 
refund because they wanted a like new part. As a seller you either give them 
their way or they leave negative feedback and PayPal takes the money away from 
you anyway and gives it back to them. They may even return an empty box or 
their old broken part and demand a refund.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Seriously?
> 
> Is that just for cars or everything?
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Sellers are not allowed to leave negative feedback for buyers anymore. They 
>> can only leave none or positive. Nothing holds buyers from holding up their 
>> end of the deal.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There's always negative feedback.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
>>>> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
>>>> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
>>>> people just see it as a game...
>>>> -Curt
>>>> 
>>>>  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>> 
>>>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
>>>> to be a d*ck?
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>>>>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>>>>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>>>>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>>>>> to the high bidder.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Dan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>>>>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days 
>>>>> to
>>>>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> clay
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>>>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had co
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Seriously?

Is that just for cars or everything?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On May 2, 2016, at 3:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Sellers are not allowed to leave negative feedback for buyers anymore. They 
> can only leave none or positive. Nothing holds buyers from holding up their 
> end of the deal.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> There's always negative feedback.
>> 
>> Dan
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
>>> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
>>> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
>>> people just see it as a game...
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>   From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>> 
>>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
>>> to be a d*ck?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>>>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>>>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>>>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>>>> to the high bidder.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dan
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>>>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>>>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> clay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had co
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why would anyone want to be a seller in that  case? I will use Hemmings

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 02/05/2016 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
>> to be a d*ck?
>>
>>
> cold feet
>
> buyer's remorse
>
> RB
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 02/05/2016 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
to be a d*ck?



cold feet

buyer's remorse

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Sellers are not allowed to leave negative feedback for buyers anymore. They can 
only leave none or positive. Nothing holds buyers from holding up their end of 
the deal.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2016, at 2:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> There's always negative feedback.
> 
> Dan
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
>> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
>> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
>> people just see it as a game...
>> -Curt
>> 
>>From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> 
>> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
>> to be a d*ck?
>> 
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>>> to the high bidder.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>>> 
>>>>> clay
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>   From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had co
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Which doesn't mean much...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Dan Penoff <dpen...@verizon.net>
 Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:36 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
   
There's always negative feedback.

Dan

> On May 2, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
> people just see it as a game...
> -Curt
> 
>    From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> 
> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
> to be a d*ck?
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>> to the high bidder.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>> 
>>>> clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>>    From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had co


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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
There's always negative feedback.

Dan

> On May 2, 2016, at 3:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
> realized "where am I going to get the money?"
> Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
> people just see it as a game...
> -Curt
> 
> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> 
> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
> to be a d*ck?
> 
> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
>> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
>> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
>> to the high bidder.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
>> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
>> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>>>> 
>>>> clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>> 
>>>>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had co


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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Got over excited during the bidding process, then had buyers remorse or 
realized "where am I going to get the money?"
Somehow even though eBay says bidding is a "legally binding contract" many 
people just see it as a game...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 3:13 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
   
But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
to be a d*ck?

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
> to the high bidder.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Cleaned up nice.
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>    From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
> >>>>
> >>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in
> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up
> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on
> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full
> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to
> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to
> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom
> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay
> for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less
> than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some
> pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no
> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700
> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all
> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the
> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I
> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the
> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well
> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.
> >>>>
> >>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has
> the chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!
> He has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up
> bidder who took it past $4k on his bids.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> clay
> >>>>
> >>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> >>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
&

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Most likely they get caught up in the bidding and after he fact decide they did 
not want to spend that much. With eBay now there are no repercussions to not 
paying.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2016, at 2:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel <astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just to 
> be a d*ck?
> 
>> On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback 
>> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've learned. 
>> > While there's really no way to document it, based on what people say it 
>> > sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed to the 
>> > high bidder.
>> >
>> > Dan
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPad
>> >
>> >> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told 
>> >> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days 
>> >> to make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>> >>
>> >> clay
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Cleaned up nice.
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>>
>> >>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> >>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> >>>
>> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>> >>>>
>> >>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal 
>> >>>> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me 
>> >>>> in March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he 
>> >>>> shows up at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been 
>> >>>> keeping an eye on the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the 
>> >>>> above car.  Probably full of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away 
>> >>>> and has little reason to drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a 
>> >>>> commission.  The shop called me to make sure I did not know the guy, 
>> >>>> and I did not recall the name, but checked email and found the old 
>> >>>> mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to get any cash in my 
>> >>>> pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the car May 2nd.  
>> >>>> I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the latest 
>> >>>> asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket 
>> >>>> change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>> >>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>> >>>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all 
>> >>>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when 
>> >>>> the '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it 
>> >>>> ran.  I said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of 
>> >>>> cleaning the moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran 
>> >>>> and drove well enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>> >>>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  
>> >>>> He has to make a $800 de

Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But why would anyone go to the trouble of bidding only to  back out?  Just
to be a d*ck?

On Mon, May 2, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback
> policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've
> learned. While there's really no way to document it, based on what people
> say it sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed
> to the high bidder.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told
> them he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to
> make fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Cleaned up nice.
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
> >>>>
> >>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal
> with the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in
> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up
> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on
> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full
> of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to
> drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to
> make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but
> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom
> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay
> for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less
> than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some
> pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
> >>>>
> >>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no
> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700
> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all
> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the
> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I
> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the
> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well
> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.
> >>>>
> >>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has
> the chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!
> He has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up
> bidder who took it past $4k on his bids.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> clay
> >>>>
> >>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> >>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That's how it is on many things sold there after eBay changed the feedback 
policy to favor buyers and sellers get screwed.

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> On May 2, 2016, at 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've learned. 
> While there's really no way to document it, based on what people say it 
> sounds like less than half of all auction actually end up completed to the 
> high bidder.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told them 
>> he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to make 
>> fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cleaned up nice.
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>>From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>>> 
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>>> 
>>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
>>>> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in 
>>>> March to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up 
>>>> at my Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on 
>>>> the cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably 
>>>> full of shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason 
>>>> to drive past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called 
>>>> me to make sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but 
>>>> checked email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom 
>>>> line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to 
>>>> pay for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k 
>>>> less than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get 
>>>> some pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>>> 
>>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>>>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all 
>>>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when 
>>>> the '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it 
>>>> ran.  I said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of 
>>>> cleaning the moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and 
>>>> drove well enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
>>>> 
>>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>>>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He 
>>>> has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder 
>>>> who took it past $4k on his bids.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> clay 
>>>> 
>>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
This is typical for a large number of auto sales on eBay, so I've learned. 
While there's really no way to document it, based on what people say it sounds 
like less than half of all auction actually end up completed to the high bidder.

Dan

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> On May 2, 2016, at 2:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told them 
> he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to make 
> fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> Cleaned up nice.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>> 
>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
>>> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March 
>>> to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my 
>>> Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the 
>>> cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of 
>>> shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive 
>>> past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to make 
>>> sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but checked 
>>> email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to 
>>> get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the 
>>> car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the 
>>> latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket 
>>> change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>> 
>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all 
>>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the 
>>> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I 
>>> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the 
>>> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well 
>>> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
>>> 
>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He 
>>> has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder 
>>> who took it past $4k on his bids.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay 
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Why is the guy backing out?

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> On May 2, 2016, at 1:28 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told them 
> he is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to make 
> fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
>> On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> Cleaned up nice.
>> -Curt
>> 
>> From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
>> 
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>>> 
>>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
>>> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March 
>>> to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my 
>>> Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the 
>>> cars in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of 
>>> shite, as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive 
>>> past my indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to make 
>>> sure I did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but checked 
>>> email and found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to 
>>> get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the 
>>> car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the 
>>> latest asking price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket 
>>> change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>>> 
>>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all 
>>> that time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the 
>>> '77 was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I 
>>> said twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the 
>>> moss off and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well 
>>> enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
>>> 
>>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He 
>>> has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder 
>>> who took it past $4k on his bids.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> clay 
>>> 
>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread clay via Mercedes
It did come pretty clean.  The winner just stopped by the shop and told them he 
is backing out on paying for the car.  I have to wait a few days to make 
fleabay do anything.  Meanwhile, second chance offer went out.

clay


On May 2, 2016, at 6:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

> Cleaned up nice.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
> Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123
> 
> 
> On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
>> 
>> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
>> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March 
>> to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my 
>> Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the cars 
>> in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of shite, 
>> as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive past my 
>> indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to make sure I 
>> did not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but checked email and 
>> found the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to get any cash 
>> in my pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the car May 2nd.  
>> I did a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the latest asking 
>> price to see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket change.  Dude 
>> showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
>> 
>> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
>> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 
>> because it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all that 
>> time.  The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the '77 
>> was listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I said 
>> twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the moss off 
>> and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well enough, so I 
>> posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
>> 
>> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the 
>> chance to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He 
>> has to make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder 
>> who took it past $4k on his bids.
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Cheap Benzes bring out the best in people

--R

On 5/1/16 11:12 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123


On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:


Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL

This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with the 
owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March to take 
a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my Indy claiming 
to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the cars in the parking 
lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of shite, as he lives and 
works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive past my indy.  Screwed me 
out of a commission.  The shop called me to make sure I did not know the guy, 
and I did not recall the name, but checked email and found the old mail.  Sale 
price was too close to bottom line to get any cash in my pocket.  I was told he 
would be coming by to pay for the car May 2nd.  I did a late night re-list of 
the car at $1k less than the latest asking price to see if I could snipe the 
sale and get some pocket change.  Dude showed up the NEXT day and paid for the 
1974.

So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no interest. 
 Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 because it had not 
run in five years and parked out in the elements all that time.  The guy who 
bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the '77 was listed as parts.  
Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I said twice what a parts car 
would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the moss off and giving it a waxing.  
When I left the car ran and drove well enough, so I posted it for $4k on CL in 
late March.

The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the chance 
to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He has to make 
a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder who took it past 
$4k on his bids.


clay

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1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-02 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Cleaned up nice.
-Curt

  From: clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: clay <redgh...@comcast.net>
 Sent: Sunday, May 1, 2016 11:12 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL
   
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123


On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
> 
> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March 
> to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my 
> Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the cars 
> in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of shite, 
> as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive past my 
> indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to make sure I did 
> not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but checked email and found 
> the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to get any cash in my 
> pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the car May 2nd.  I did 
> a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the latest asking price to 
> see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket change.  Dude showed up the 
> NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
> 
> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 because 
> it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all that time.  
> The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the '77 was 
> listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I said 
> twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the moss off 
> and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well enough, so I 
> posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
> 
> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the chance 
> to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He has to 
> make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder who took 
> it past $4k on his bids.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Sold the SL

2016-05-01 Thread clay via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291747507440?forcerRptr=true=291747507440==ADME:L:EOISSA:MOTORS:1123


On May 1, 2016, at 7:29 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

> Mercedes-Benz: SL-Class 450SL
> 
> This was an interesting sale.  The winning bidder made a cheater deal with 
> the owner of the 1974 SL I was selling on CL.  He had contacted me in March 
> to take a look at the above car, but flaked.  Last week he shows up at my 
> Indy claiming to not know me and that he had been keeping an eye on the cars 
> in the parking lot and wanted to see the above car.  Probably full of shite, 
> as he lives and works 30 miles away and has little reason to drive past my 
> indy.  Screwed me out of a commission.  The shop called me to make sure I did 
> not know the guy, and I did not recall the name, but checked email and found 
> the old mail.  Sale price was too close to bottom line to get any cash in my 
> pocket.  I was told he would be coming by to pay for the car May 2nd.  I did 
> a late night re-list of the car at $1k less than the latest asking price to 
> see if I could snipe the sale and get some pocket change.  Dude showed up the 
> NEXT day and paid for the 1974.
> 
> So, the 1977 was put on Fleabay last Sunday because it was getting no 
> interest.  Original posting on CL was as a project/parts car at $1700 because 
> it had not run in five years and parked out in the elements all that time.  
> The guy who bought the 74 contacted me in early March, when the '77 was 
> listed as parts.  Indy asked what the '77 would fetch if it ran.  I said 
> twice what a parts car would.  I was in the middle of cleaning the moss off 
> and giving it a waxing.  When I left the car ran and drove well enough, so I 
> posted it for $4k on CL in late March.  
> 
> The winning bidder just signed up on Fleabay this week and now has the chance 
> to buy the 1977 SL for more than I was asking.  What an IDIOT!  He has to 
> make a $800 deposit or I am going to offer it to the back up bidder who took 
> it past $4k on his bids.
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
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