Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> If the republic were
> turned into a democracy, the few blue counties would determine the direction
> of the country.

Maybe, but grey counties don't really concern themselves with the
direction of the country - they *are* the country.  If the grey
counties expect something from the country? - yes, they need to be
concerned.  However, the grey counties know how to do things, i.e.
okiebenz.  Maybe okiebenz is served from a blue county but okiebenz is
totally grey intentioned.
...one man's opinion...
Keep up the good stuff, okiebenz!!
Good to see Curley back on the network.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If you live in any of the gray counties on this map, you had better do 
all you can to resist any change to the elector college.  If the 
republic were turned into a democracy, the few blue counties would 
determine the direction of the country.


The founders were brilliant, and most of our problems have been caused 
by tinkering with the system they set up.   In particular, the 12th, 
16th 17th messed with the system.   The 26th was probably a mistake too.


If the map does not come through, you can find it here: 
https://www.politicscentral.org/understand-election-2016-check-map/



Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
November 12, 2016 at 2:20 PM
Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular vote vs
Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more votes). Of
course, if that happened campaign strategies and tactics would be 
changed to
be optimized for a different scoring system. Also, I'm sure many red 
voters

in big solid blue states (like CA or NY) stayed home (because their votes
couldn't change electoral outcome) but would suddenly have a reason to 
vote.

But the main problem would be recounts. With the current system, only one
or a couple states need to do recounts. With a close vote using a popular
vote system, every state would need to recount. Like FL 2000 on steroids!
What a horrible prospect.




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archer75--- via Mercedes 
November 10, 2016 at 9:58 PM
~~~
Subliminal perception has a controversial history:

"The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) received complaints 
of a television station using subliminal messages in 1974. This was 
the first new case since the original in the 1950's. The FCC responded 
by issuing a public notice, which stated their official position- "We 
believe that the use of subliminal perception is inconsistent with the 
obligations of a [broadcast] licensee, and therefore we take this 
occasion to make clear that broadcasts employing such techniques are 
contrary to the public interest. Whether effective or not, such 
broadcasts clearly are intended to be deceptive."


http://www.umich.edu/~onebook/pages/tablepages/history.html

~~~
"Subliminal stimuli...are any sensory stimuli below an individual's 
threshold for conscious perception. A recent review of functional 
magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal 
stimuli activate specific regions of the brain despite participants 
being unaware.[2] Visual stimuli may be quickly flashed before an 
individual can process them, or flashed and then masked, thereby 
interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below audible 
volumes or masked by other stimulisnip


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli#Effectiveness




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Mountain Man via Mercedes 
November 10, 2016 at 2:05 PM

Turn off the TV - you will be sucked in to the abyss of sorcery.
The other shoe has not dropped yet. There will be more to come.
Maybe? They can't give up this graciously.
mao

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Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
November 10, 2016 at 7:57 AM
There were riots and protests all over the country. From watching the 
news the reporters would try to get them to talk to them and all they 
would do is yell vulgarities about trump, which made it on live 
television. They got this one kid to talk and it started saying that 
he felt like trump did not represent him then all the sudden yelled 
trump is a p and ran off, very very immature. In fact all of 
the protesters I saw appeared to be in that early to mid 30s and 
younger group.


Sent from my iPhone



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clay via Mercedes 
November 9, 2016 at 11:46 PM
Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were 

Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How many times daily is that?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not exactly.  I usually listen to NPR while I scoop the cat boxes.
>
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> round
> > the world
> >
> > Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On November 12, 2016 4:52:31 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >Why are you listening to Liberal radio?
> > >
> > >On Nov 12, 2016 4:06 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:20:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> > >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular
> > >vote vs
> > >> > Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more
> > >votes).
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

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Not exactly.  I usually listen to NPR while I scoop the cat boxes.

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round
> the world
> 
> Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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> '95 E300
> 
> On November 12, 2016 4:52:31 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Why are you listening to Liberal radio?
> >
> >On Nov 12, 2016 4:06 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:20:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
> >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular
> >vote vs
> >> > Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more
> >votes).
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 12, 2016 4:52:31 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Why are you listening to Liberal radio?
>
>On Nov 12, 2016 4:06 PM, "Craig via Mercedes" 
>wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:20:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>
>> > Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular
>vote vs
>> > Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more
>votes).


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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Why are you listening to Liberal radio?

On Nov 12, 2016 4:06 PM, "Craig via Mercedes"  wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:20:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular vote vs
> > Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more votes).
> > Of course, if that happened campaign strategies and tactics would be
> > changed to be optimized for a different scoring system.  Also, I'm sure
> > many red voters in big solid blue states (like CA or NY) stayed home
> > (because their votes couldn't change electoral outcome) but would
> > suddenly have a reason to vote. But the main problem would be
> > recounts.  With the current system, only one or a couple states need to
> > do recounts.  With a close vote using a popular vote system, every
> > state would need to recount.  Like FL 2000 on steroids! What a horrible
> > prospect.
>
> The founders wisely set up a system where the population centers could
> not ride rough shod over the smaller cities and rural areas. The
> Electoral College is why we don't have mob-rule.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 12 Nov 2016 15:20:20 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular vote vs
> Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more votes).
> Of course, if that happened campaign strategies and tactics would be
> changed to be optimized for a different scoring system.  Also, I'm sure
> many red voters in big solid blue states (like CA or NY) stayed home
> (because their votes couldn't change electoral outcome) but would
> suddenly have a reason to vote. But the main problem would be
> recounts.  With the current system, only one or a couple states need to
> do recounts.  With a close vote using a popular vote system, every
> state would need to recount.  Like FL 2000 on steroids! What a horrible
> prospect.

The founders wisely set up a system where the population centers could
not ride rough shod over the smaller cities and rural areas. The
Electoral College is why we don't have mob-rule.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Much discussion on liberal radio about going to straight popular vote vs
Electoral College (because Hill got about a half million more votes).   Of
course, if that happened campaign strategies and tactics would be changed to
be optimized for a different scoring system.  Also, I'm sure many red voters
in big solid blue states (like CA or NY) stayed home (because their votes
couldn't change electoral outcome) but would suddenly have a reason to vote.
But the main problem would be recounts.  With the current system, only one
or a couple states need to do recounts.  With a close vote using a popular
vote system, every state would need to recount.  Like FL 2000 on steroids!
What a horrible prospect.




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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry(?) wrote:
> "Subliminal stimuli...are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold 
> for conscious perception.

Nice!
Ya think?
Thanks!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:
> > ...From watching the news...
> 
> Turn off the TV - you will be sucked in to the abyss of sorcery.
> The other shoe has not dropped yet.  There will be more to come.
> Maybe?  They can't give up this graciously.
> mao
~~~
Subliminal perception has a controversial history:

"The U.S. Federal Communications Commission (FCC) received complaints of a 
television station using subliminal messages in 1974. This was the first new 
case since the original in the 1950's. The FCC responded by issuing a public 
notice, which stated their official position- "We believe that the use of 
subliminal perception is inconsistent with the obligations of a [broadcast] 
licensee, and therefore we take this occasion to make clear that broadcasts 
employing such techniques are contrary to the public interest. Whether 
effective or not, such broadcasts clearly are intended to be deceptive."

http://www.umich.edu/~onebook/pages/tablepages/history.html

~~~
"Subliminal stimuli...are any sensory stimuli below an individual's threshold 
for conscious perception. A recent review of functional magnetic resonance 
imaging (fMRI) studies shows that subliminal stimuli activate specific regions 
of the brain despite participants being unaware.[2] Visual stimuli may be 
quickly flashed before an individual can process them, or flashed and then 
masked, thereby interrupting the processing. Audio stimuli may be played below 
audible volumes or masked by other stimulisnip

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_stimuli#Effectiveness




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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He died of happiness.

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 3:28 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Gerry wrote:
> > Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been
> here in the middle of it.
>
> Banned... probably.
> Dan? Kaleb? Anyone?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Gerry wrote:
> Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been here 
> in the middle of it.

Banned... probably.
Dan? Kaleb? Anyone?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Where has Curlie been while all this was going on? He should have been here in 
the middle of it.
Gerry

"Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
> There were riots and protests all over the country. From watching the news 
> the reporters would try to get them to talk to them and all they would do is 
> yell vulgarities about trump, which made it on live television. They got this 
> one kid to talk and it started saying that he felt like trump did not 
> represent him then all the sudden yelled trump is a p and ran off, 
> very very immature. In fact all of the protesters I saw appeared to be in 
> that early to mid 30s and younger group.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, clay via Mercedes  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were too afraid to 
> > stand up to H-> CCF and tell her nobody wanted her to hold office.  The 
> > last time, people chose the lesser evil, a black muslim from Kenya.  She 
> > proclaimed it was her given right to be the donkey choice.  No idea what 
> > manner of arm twisting, lies, of bribes CCF paid out to keep the worthy 
> > candidates out of the race.  Bernie was too out there to get purchased 
> > until the end.
> > 
> > That Donny could out fox the spineless elephants who were not willing to 
> > step outside the box and call a spade a spade on all the issues facing the 
> > nation, just shows how out of touch the “leadership” and people of the 
> > swamp became.
> > 
> > Seattle was so outraged, that there were many rioting bleeding hearts last 
> > night.  They could not go quietly into the night.  This morning the 
> > commuters were distraught enough to try to end it all in traffic.  Lots of 
> > messed up commute with greater than normal accidents.  The liberal bubble 
> > burst and reality smacked these people in the face.
> > 
> > clay
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> >> wrote:
> >> 
> >> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
> >> 
> >> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
> >> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
> >> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
> >> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
> >> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
> >> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
> >> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
> >> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> ...From watching the news...

Turn off the TV - you will be sucked in to the abyss of sorcery.
The other shoe has not dropped yet.  There will be more to come.
Maybe?  They can't give up this graciously.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

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There were riots and protests all over the country. From watching the news the 
reporters would try to get them to talk to them and all they would do is yell 
vulgarities about trump, which made it on live television. They got this one 
kid to talk and it started saying that he felt like trump did not represent him 
then all the sudden yelled trump is a p and ran off, very very 
immature. In fact all of the protesters I saw appeared to be in that early to 
mid 30s and younger group.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 9, 2016, at 11:46 PM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were too afraid to 
> stand up to H-> CCF and tell her nobody wanted her to hold office.  The last 
> time, people chose the lesser evil, a black muslim from Kenya.  She 
> proclaimed it was her given right to be the donkey choice.  No idea what 
> manner of arm twisting, lies, of bribes CCF paid out to keep the worthy 
> candidates out of the race.  Bernie was too out there to get purchased until 
> the end.
> 
> That Donny could out fox the spineless elephants who were not willing to step 
> outside the box and call a spade a spade on all the issues facing the nation, 
> just shows how out of touch the “leadership” and people of the swamp became.
> 
> Seattle was so outraged, that there were many rioting bleeding hearts last 
> night.  They could not go quietly into the night.  This morning the commuters 
> were distraught enough to try to end it all in traffic.  Lots of messed up 
> commute with greater than normal accidents.  The liberal bubble burst and 
> reality smacked these people in the face.
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
>> 
>> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
>> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
>> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
>> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
>> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
>> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
>> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
>> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[clay via Mercedes]

Maybe it was just a bunch of spineless donkey dorks who were too afraid to 
stand up to H-> CCF and tell her nobody wanted her to hold office.  The last 
time, people chose the lesser evil, a black muslim from Kenya.  She proclaimed 
it was her given right to be the donkey choice.  No idea what manner of arm 
twisting, lies, of bribes CCF paid out to keep the worthy candidates out of the 
race.  Bernie was too out there to get purchased until the end.

That Donny could out fox the spineless elephants who were not willing to step 
outside the box and call a spade a spade on all the issues facing the nation, 
just shows how out of touch the “leadership” and people of the swamp became.

Seattle was so outraged, that there were many rioting bleeding hearts last 
night.  They could not go quietly into the night.  This morning the commuters 
were distraught enough to try to end it all in traffic.  Lots of messed up 
commute with greater than normal accidents.  The liberal bubble burst and 
reality smacked these people in the face.

clay



> On Nov 9, 2016, at 7:26 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
> 
> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trump triumphs -- Media's 'primal scream' is heard round the world

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If you can get past all the f-bombs, Michael Moore said why the candidate he
hates the most was going to win in a landslide. The dispossessed masses were
going to vote for the guy who promised to overturn the whole rotten apple cart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKeYbEOSqYc

> On November 9, 2016 at 10:26 AM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
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> http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2016/11/09/trump-triumphs-medias-primal-scream-is-heard-round-world.html
> 
> A nearly unanimous media failed to carry the unpopular Hillary across the
> finish line. Once again, America rejected the liberal Democrat. Advil set
> the tone early with a comment: “Politics giving you a #migraine? Advil®
> Migraine is the best candidate for pain relief.” CNN commentator David
> Axelrod called it a “primal scream.” ABC’s Terry Moran called it “a
> rejection of the neoliberal world order that has been the consensus
> around the world.” CNN commentator and former Obama green jobs czar Van
> Jones called the election a “White-lash against a changing country.”
> 
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