Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Hendrik Fay
Yeah and that is what was said last time, right before it started to get 
nasty.

Hendrik

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 We aren't. Instead, we shall discuss facts. No politics, just facts.

 On Jan 30, 2008 10:40 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

   
 I thought we were not going to talk politics on here.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing
I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 
years off - an extended vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed - 
unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)

I know, it'd never work.

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 No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 On Jan 30, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And that would be different how

 
  Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election
 cycle
  -- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt.
 

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread LarryT
Don wrote:having vote after vote to bring the 
\
Ahh... our tax dollars hard at work.  How could they have the power to give 
themselves raises?Seems like there was something in the Constitution 
about that?  Hmm.. there were originally 12 articles in the Bill of rights - 
maybe that was one of the 2 that were dropped.  My memory is failng me. ;-\

Add that power to their tremendous retirement and it's no wonder people go 
to such extremes to get elected then to stay elected.


Thankfully there are a few who are there for the right reason.

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 Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new 
 congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING other than 
 having vote after vote to bring the troops back from Iraq. How many times 
 do they have to have these symbolic votes when they have not changed the 
 positions of anyone who voted the last time.  Regardless of your position 
 on Iraq, does it make sense to keep having the same vote over and over 
 when the result is already decided.

 Check out how many of Nancy's promises she has kept.  I am sure you can 
 google it and check your own sources. I think the first one she broke was 
 the work 5 days a week promise. That one was dismantled two weeks into 
 the session.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote:
 
 Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing
 I've often thought how much better off we'd all be if lawmakers took 5 or 10
 years off - an extended vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed -
 unless some emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)

First pass one bill, invalidating all federal legislation (and illegal
executive orders) enacted in the past 100 years. Then take a vacation
for five or ten years to see what might really need changing.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-31 Thread Fmiser
 Wonko wrote No bills would be acted on -- which might be a
 good thing I've often thought how much better off we'd all
 be if lawmakers took 5 or 10 years off - an extended
 vacation perhaps.  No bills would be passed - unless some
 emergency arose - which is defined by national concensus. ;-)
 
 I know, it'd never work.
 
 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)

How about Every law is null and void 10 years after enacted.
Then the lawmakers would be busy reenacting the important old
laws instead of inventing new ones.

It would never work either...

-- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread PM7088
I realy kinda like the Black Dude.
He has the backing of Lee Iaccoa, one of my personal heros.

However, I cannot vote for a man who doesn't respect our Nation's Flag.  It's 
his right to do that, my right not to vote for him

Pete


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 On Jan 29, 2008 7:19 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote: 
  Hey, don't dis' the black guy. He will be your next Prez. 
  
  
 
 Pshaw. Never happen, G.I. I will put $1,000 up against your diesel 
 Quantum that Obama loses to McCain or Mike Bloomberg. 
 
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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jan 29, 2008 7:19 PM, Wonko the Sane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, don't dis' the black guy. He will be your next Prez.



Pshaw.  Never happen, G.I.  I will put $1,000 up against your diesel
Quantum that Obama loses to McCain or Mike Bloomberg.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread LarryT
I do not care for his lack of support for the constitution - like the 2nd 
Amend.  Course, all the candidates are like that although they wont admit 
it.  Fred Thompson was an exception - I was really irritated when he dropped 
out.

The others running are either Dems or RINOs (republican in name only) who we 
cannot count on to stand up for the constitution our forefathers fought and 
died for.  Bush upset me no end when his DOJ issued a brief to the SUpreme 
Ct saying the 2nd Amend only deserved minimal protection under the law. 
Other words to the effect in the same brief could make it possible for 
Congress to say all guns in private hands are an unreasonable danger and 
the constitutional argument will not be allowed.  I hope everyone is 
contacting their congressmen to request they join Rep Virgil Goode (R,Va) in 
his attempt to present bush with a request he revise the brief.

Later -- 

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I realy kinda like the Black Dude.
 He has the backing of Lee Iaccoa, one of my personal heros.

 However, I cannot vote for a man who doesn't respect our Nation's Flag. 
 It's his right to do that, my right not to vote for him

 Pete


 -- Original message -- 
 From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 On Jan 29, 2008 7:19 PM, Wonko the Sane wrote:
  Hey, don't dis' the black guy. He will be your next Prez.
 
 

 Pshaw. Never happen, G.I. I will put $1,000 up against your diesel
 Quantum that Obama loses to McCain or Mike Bloomberg.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread OK Don
Or an impeachment vote. He's trampled all over our constitutional
rights - worst one since Lincoln.

 I hope everyone is
 contacting their congressmen to request they join Rep Virgil Goode (R,Va) in
 his attempt to present bush with a request he revise the brief.

 Later --


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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
From the lips of Senator Biden to my ears:

Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election cycle
-- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt.

[Quote is the best I remember his answer to my question, but highly
paraphrased.]

Very nice thing about Iowa politics -- you actually get to stand there and
ask the important people questions they'd not normally get from more
polite interviewers, and they have to answer with a room full of voters
listening.

D.


On Jan 30, 2008 9:48 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Or an impeachment vote. He's trampled all over our constitutional
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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Zeitgeist
I'm outraged there aren't more pols willing to stand up for the rights of
inanimate objects, like guns n' flags!  harrumpfff!

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
Lots of guns in Iraq at the moment.

On Jan 30, 2008 10:02 PM, Zeitgeist [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm outraged there aren't more pols willing to stand up for the rights of
 inanimate objects, like guns n' flags!  harrumpfff!

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread OK Don
And that would be different how


 Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election cycle
 -- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt.


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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

On Jan 30, 2008 10:18 PM, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And that would be different how

 
  Perhaps impeachable offenses but it won't happen during an election
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  -- it would bring Congress to a grinding halt.
 

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Donald Snook
Ok Don wrote: Or an impeachment vote. He's trampled all over our 
constitutional rights - worst one since Lincoln.

That's a load of horseshit.

I thought we were not going to talk politics on here.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
We aren't. Instead, we shall discuss facts. No politics, just facts.

On Jan 30, 2008 10:40 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 I thought we were not going to talk politics on here.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Donald Snook
Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new 
congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING other than having 
vote after vote to bring the troops back from Iraq. How many times do they have 
to have these symbolic votes when they have not changed the positions of anyone 
who voted the last time.  Regardless of your position on Iraq, does it make 
sense to keep having the same vote over and over when the result is already 
decided.

Check out how many of Nancy's promises she has kept.  I am sure you can google 
it and check your own sources. I think the first one she broke was the work 5 
days a week promise. That one was dismantled two weeks into the session.

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread Wonko the Sane
She is an embarrassment that should be quickly voted out of office.

On Jan 30, 2008 10:57 PM, Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new
 congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING other than
 having vote after vote to bring the troops back from Iraq. How many times do
 they have to have these symbolic votes when they have not changed the
 positions of anyone who voted the last time.  Regardless of your position on
 Iraq, does it make sense to keep having the same vote over and over when the
 result is already decided.

 Check out how many of Nancy's promises she has kept.  I am sure you can
 google it and check your own sources. I think the first one she broke was
 the work 5 days a week promise. That one was dismantled two weeks into the
 session.

 Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] all inclusive

2008-01-30 Thread OK Don
My point exactly!  Throw the bums out! All of them.

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 Lt Don wrote: No bills would be acted on -- which might be a good thing.

 Just make Nancy Pelosi the permanent Speaker of the House. Since the new 
 congress has taken over they have not accomplished ANYTHING
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2008-01-30 Thread Allan Streib
On Jan 30, 2008, at 11:57 PM, Donald Snook wrote:

 How many times do they have to have these symbolic votes when they  
 have not changed the positions of anyone who voted the last time.

Franklin said, the definitions of insanity is to do the same thing  
over and over and expect a different outcome.

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2008-01-29 Thread Wonko the Sane
Hey, don't dis' the black guy. He will be your next Prez.

On Jan 29, 2008 9:18 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Maybe it should be renamed to the Mercedes, gun, ADD, dog, computer,
  software, motorcycle, anything goes list?
 
 Don't forget Obama.

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2008-01-29 Thread RELNGSON
 Maybe it should be renamed to the Mercedes, gun, ADD, dog, computer,
 software, motorcycle, anything goes list?
 
Don't forget Obama.

RLE
 
 




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