Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-15 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I should think that would give you ample time to consider a move to a 
quiet rural area. Can't you get a job transfer to some small office in 
Oklahoma?


RB


On 15/09/2014 1:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I drive every day to the Red Line, then take two subways to work.

On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 1:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the
metro?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I drive every day to the Red Line, then take two subways to work.

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> I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the
> metro?
>
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-15 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
I'm sure there is a metro stop or two near that park, why not use the metro?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The most pragmatic approach would be to ride to the bus stop, put the bike
on the bus' front rack, ride 5 miles to the bike path, and then ride the 9
miles from there to my office opposite Nationals Park.  BTW, I boldly
predict that the Nats will win the World Series to the shock and dismay of
all baseball pundits, none of whom takes the team seriously.

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:00 PM, ernest breakfield via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew could best answer that, but i was thinking he's in the DC area, and
> if he's going into the office in Foggy Bottom, i don't recall much around
> there that's not flat. (even places like Capitol Heights and Oxon Hill
> aren't more than a couple-hunnert feet elevation. you can get closer to
> 400' out toward Bethesda, but that's on the far end of the commute range he
> described.)
> yes, i recall some of the hills in that part of the world can be short
> and fairly steep, but modern bicycle gearing goes so low that it makes easy
> work of those; Granny Gears are your friend. Sit and Spin!;-)
>
> (disclaimer; my perspective may admittedly be a bit skewed; i can
> hardly do a recreational ride around here of over an hour or 2 that doesn't
> involve a couple thousand feet of climbing. i've been doing this for fun
> since i started on Extended Touring bikes carrying all my camping gear, so
> i'm pretty comfortable with Granny.)
>
> all that said, if someone's got to wear the PA Ave uniform to work,
> this admittedly might not work in the high temps and humidity that that
> area is plagued with. i used to deal with a similar situation by driving in
> once or twice a week to carry office clothes in, so i could ride in the
> rest of the time in something more cycle-friendly.
>
>
> cheers!
> e
>
>
> On 12/Sep/14 03:19, John Reames wrote:
>
>> I don't know whether his commute is flat or not.  I have a 9.3 mile
>> commute, which sounds nice and easy, but then you look at a topo map...
>>
>> In mine, the peak elevation is 397ft, the lowest is 59ft.  In the first
>> 2-2.5 miles, there is a single rise of 150ft in 0.2 miles distance,
>> followed by a drop of 75ft in 0.1 miles, followed by a rise of 75ft in 0.1
>> miles. The rest of the morning commute doesn't have any rises over about
>> 55ft, and is basically downhill to the end at 62ft of elevation. A nice
>> relaxed 9.3 mile bike ride.
>>
>> BTW, If driving an electric car is "drinking the [green] Kool-Aid" (not
>> to be confused with flavoraid of Jonestown fame), then at least the smart
>> ED is "proper" German [green] Kool-Aid.  (And for bonus points,
>> http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45mgef/1-smart-fortwo-electric-drive/
>> ... For those times when you really want to annoy people with a
>> greener-than-thou attitude.)
>>
>>
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>> On Sep 11, 2014, at 17:01, ernest breakfield via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:
>>
>>  just ride easier.
>>>that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further
>>> than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when
>>> i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less
>>> presentable than i usually am,...
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers!
>>> e
>>>
>>> On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 Nah, I'd get too sweaty.

 On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

  I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in
> mind
> a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew
> is
> he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried
> about
> being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> 
>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes  mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
> To: Andrew Strasfogel  astrasfo...@gmail.com>>; Mercedes Discussion List <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com >
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
>
>
> Bike!
>
> --R
>
>
>
>
>
> On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get
>> for
>>
> my
>
>> 15 mile RT commute?
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-12 Thread ernest breakfield via Mercedes
Andrew could best answer that, but i was thinking he's in the DC area, 
and if he's going into the office in Foggy Bottom, i don't recall much 
around there that's not flat. (even places like Capitol Heights and Oxon 
Hill aren't more than a couple-hunnert feet elevation. you can get 
closer to 400' out toward Bethesda, but that's on the far end of the 
commute range he described.)
yes, i recall some of the hills in that part of the world can be 
short and fairly steep, but modern bicycle gearing goes so low that it 
makes easy work of those; Granny Gears are your friend. Sit and Spin!;-)


(disclaimer; my perspective may admittedly be a bit skewed; i can 
hardly do a recreational ride around here of over an hour or 2 that 
doesn't involve a couple thousand feet of climbing. i've been doing this 
for fun since i started on Extended Touring bikes carrying all my 
camping gear, so i'm pretty comfortable with Granny.)


all that said, if someone's got to wear the PA Ave uniform to work, 
this admittedly might not work in the high temps and humidity that that 
area is plagued with. i used to deal with a similar situation by driving 
in once or twice a week to carry office clothes in, so i could ride in 
the rest of the time in something more cycle-friendly.



cheers!
e


On 12/Sep/14 03:19, John Reames wrote:
I don't know whether his commute is flat or not.  I have a 9.3 mile 
commute, which sounds nice and easy, but then you look at a topo map...


In mine, the peak elevation is 397ft, the lowest is 59ft.  In the 
first 2-2.5 miles, there is a single rise of 150ft in 0.2 miles 
distance, followed by a drop of 75ft in 0.1 miles, followed by a rise 
of 75ft in 0.1 miles. The rest of the morning commute doesn't have any 
rises over about 55ft, and is basically downhill to the end at 62ft of 
elevation. A nice relaxed 9.3 mile bike ride.


BTW, If driving an electric car is "drinking the [green] Kool-Aid" 
(not to be confused with flavoraid of Jonestown fame), then at least 
the smart ED is "proper" German [green] Kool-Aid.  (And for bonus 
points, 
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45mgef/1-smart-fortwo-electric-drive/ ... 
For those times when you really want to annoy people with a 
greener-than-thou attitude.)



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On Sep 11, 2014, at 17:01, ernest breakfield via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:



just ride easier.
   that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do 
further than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full 
suit), even when i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly 
sweatier or any less presentable than i usually am,...



cheers!
e

On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Nah, I'd get too sweaty.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com > wrote:

I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that 
in mind
a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where 
Andrew is
he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried 
about

being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes.

-Curt



 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes >
To: Andrew Strasfogel >; Mercedes Discussion List <

mercedes@okiebenz.com >
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius


Bike!

--R





On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can 
get for

my

15 mile RT commute?



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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-12 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
you should try to ride on the beach down here

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I ride all year around here, I like the summer warmth.  3.5mi down to the
> beach, a mile or two on the beach, then back, clears the head and gets the
> blood flowing.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/11/14 6:42 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> summer are brutal for riding.  i really only ride about 6 or 7 months a
>> year down here.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>  In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
>>> before bursting into flame.  It is even worse than down here in the Low
>>> Country.
>>>
>>> Max Dillon,
>>> Charleston SC
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, "ernest breakfield via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
 just ride easier.
  that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do
 further

>>> than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even
>>> when
>>> i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less
>>> presentable than i usually am,...
>>>

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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I travel 59 miles each way on the highway with an elevation change of 300 feet 
that is made mostly in 2 hills. It'd be one of those where I'd have to leave 
for work as soon as I got home. I'd get in good shape though :)

-Curt



 From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
To: Rich Thomas ; Mercedes Discussion 
List  
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle
 

I'm 37 miles from work on major highways with significant hills.  Not  
really possible to commute, even it good weather.

Peter




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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-12 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I'm 37 miles from work on major highways with significant hills.  Not  
really possible to commute, even it good weather.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle

2014-09-12 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
I ride all year around here, I like the summer warmth.  3.5mi down to 
the beach, a mile or two on the beach, then back, clears the head and 
gets the blood flowing.


--R


On 9/11/14 6:42 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

summer are brutal for riding.  i really only ride about 6 or 7 months a
year down here.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
before bursting into flame.  It is even worse than down here in the Low
Country.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, "ernest breakfield via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

just ride easier.
 that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further

than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when
i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less
presentable than i usually am,...



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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)

2014-09-12 Thread John Reames via Mercedes
I don't know whether his commute is flat or not.  I have a 9.3 mile commute, 
which sounds nice and easy, but then you look at a topo map...

In mine, the peak elevation is 397ft, the lowest is 59ft.  In the first 2-2.5 
miles, there is a single rise of 150ft in 0.2 miles distance, followed by a 
drop of 75ft in 0.1 miles, followed by a rise of 75ft in 0.1 miles. The rest of 
the morning commute doesn't have any rises over about 55ft, and is basically 
downhill to the end at 62ft of elevation. A nice relaxed 9.3 mile bike ride.

BTW, If driving an electric car is "drinking the [green] Kool-Aid" (not to be 
confused with flavoraid of Jonestown fame), then at least the smart ED is 
"proper" German [green] Kool-Aid.  (And for bonus points, 
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/ehmk45mgef/1-smart-fortwo-electric-drive/ ... 
For those times when you really want to annoy people with a greener-than-thou 
attitude.)


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> On Sep 11, 2014, at 17:01, ernest breakfield via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> just ride easier.
>that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further than 
> that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when i have 
> meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less presentable 
> than i usually am,...
> 
> 
> cheers!
> e
> 
>> On 11/Sep/14 10:39, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Nah, I'd get too sweaty.
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I hadn't noticed the RT when I read the post originally. With that in mind
>>> a bicycle is indeed the absolute best choice. Considering where Andrew is
>>> he'd easily get 8 months of riding in each year. If you're worried about
>>> being sweaty in the morning get one of those electric assist bikes.
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
>>> To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 1:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Testing Prius
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bike!
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 9/11/14 10:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 Other than a Prius, what is the cheapest used electric car I can get for
>>> my
 15 mile RT commute?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)

2014-09-11 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I'd bicycle here but I have no desire to end up as a hood ornament.   
Only safe in groups, people drive like idiots and there is no  
shoulder, in fact usually a 3 to 6" drop off the pavement into a ditch.


Used to bike all the time in graduate school, wish I still lived  
somewhere I could.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)

2014-09-11 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes
summer are brutal for riding.  i really only ride about 6 or 7 months a
year down here.

On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
> before bursting into flame.  It is even worse than down here in the Low
> Country.
>
> Max Dillon,
> Charleston SC
>
> On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, "ernest breakfield via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > just ride easier.
> > that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further
> than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when
> i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less
> presentable than i usually am,...
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] commuting by bicycle (was: Re: Testing Prius)

2014-09-11 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
In Washington DC summers, a man on a bike can only go about three blocks
before bursting into flame.  It is even worse than down here in the Low
Country.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Sep 11, 2014 5:01 PM, "ernest breakfield via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> just ride easier.
> that kind of distance is an easy twiddle of the pedals; i do further
than that in work clothes frequently (albeit not in a full suit), even when
i have meetings, and don't arrive significantly sweatier or any less
presentable than i usually am,...
>
>
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