Re: [MBZ] home-brewing

2013-10-04 Thread clay
nope.  I like the 5 gallon at a time game

clay

On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:

> Have you considered doing the keezer thing?
> 
> Randy
> 
> On 04/10/2013 2:29 AM, clay wrote:
>> I gave the thing a look over online.  Seems like a viable solution for the 
>> beer guy who wants some top level  beer.  Not meant for the crafty beer 
>> hobbyist, but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own 
>> really good beer.  No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a 
>> time of all sorts of interesting beers.
>> 
>> I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing.  Then 
>> getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time.  I get three 
>> or four batches a year.  If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that 
>> would be really fun.  To drink.  Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance 
>> though
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 
>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
>> 
>>> Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach.
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry
>>> Archer
>>> Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM
>>> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
>>> Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get
>>> Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink.
>>> Or two.
>>> Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily
>>> produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and
>>> flavor you can imagine.
>>> After leaving Microsoft in 2010, Mitchell started a company called PicoBrew
>>> with his food-scientist brother and a gifted hardware hacker he used to work
>>> with in Redmond.
>>> Together they created a dream machine for small-scale brewing that they're
>>> unveiling Monday.
>>> Called the PicoBrew Zymatic, it's a device the size of a large microwave
>>> oven that almost completely automates the process of producing beer.
>>> The idea was to take the drudgery out of brewing, without sacrificing the
>>> fun or the gratification that comes from creating your own batches, Mitchell
>>> said.
>>> "The beauty for us, especially in beer-making, is it's this great fusion of
>>> science and cooking, of chemistry and cooking," he said. "We didn't want to
>>> lose any of that - in fact we want to enhance that portion of it - and just
>>> take out the bad portions."
>>> They've also applied modern technologies to the ancient art.
>>> Zymatic machines were designed to be Internet appliances. They are
>>> controlled by open-source software, connected to the Web and managed through
>>> a browser.
>>> PicoBrew's software dashboard is used to concoct recipes and adjust brewing
>>> cycles. Users can share recipes through the service and monitor the brewing
>>> process remotely on their smartphone.
>>> Data collected by this online service - from users who opt to share their
>>> brewing activity - will be used to continue refining the machines, which are
>>> also designed to be hacked and modified as buyers see fit.
>>> About 1 million people in the U.S. brew their own beer, from President Obama
>>> on down, according to the American Homebrewers Association. But it remains a
>>> niche hobby because home-brewing can be a hassle.
>>> To make a batch, you may spend most of a day cleaning and sterilizing
>>> vessels and implements, then heating, mixing and cooling the ingredients.
>>> It's also tricky to precisely repeat the process, which is what finally
>>> convinced Mitchell there had to be a better way.
>>> While still an executive leading various Microsoft hardware projects,
>>> Mitchell, 50, began brewing more and more advanced beers at his Medina home,
>>> including Belgian ales, stouts and barley wines.
>>> A turning point came after he produced a particularly great stout for a
>>> soccer-team party. Others raved and asked for more, but he was unable to get
>>> his special recipe to work again.
>>> Mitchell didn't have to look far for help. His brother, Jim, is a physicist
>>> and home-brewer who designs food-processing facilities. Their late
>>> grandfather was a noted General Foods scientist whose inventions led to
>>> products such as Cool Whip, Tang, Jell-O and Pop Rocks candy.
>>> "We said, 'We should be able to come up with something that automates that
>>> process, like a superautomatic espresso maker,'?" Mitchell said. Goals
>>> included a system with precise temperature control that could produce repeat
>>> batches and that could be cleaned in a dishwasher.
>>> At first they tinkered with things like robotic arms and complicated valve
>>> systems. Eventually they gave up trying to mechanically add and remove
>>> ingredients. Instead they figured out a way to circulate water at different
>>> temperatures through the dry ingredients.
>>> To make a batch with a Zymatic, you select a recipe in th

Re: [MBZ] home-brewing

2013-10-04 Thread Randy Bennell

Have you considered doing the keezer thing?

Randy

On 04/10/2013 2:29 AM, clay wrote:

I gave the thing a look over online.  Seems like a viable solution for the beer 
guy who wants some top level  beer.  Not meant for the crafty beer hobbyist, 
but the guy who has cash and likes the cachet of making his own really good 
beer.  No need to make gallons of the stuff, but a gallon at a time of all 
sorts of interesting beers.

I like to mess around with all the little tasks involved in brewing.  Then 
getting to make dozens of bottles to age and drink over time.  I get three or 
four batches a year.  If I could pop out a fresh beer every week, that would be 
really fun.  To drink.  Not sure I am ready for a beer appliance though

clay


On Oct 1, 2013, at 4:56 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:


Sounds very cool, but $1500 seems a far reach.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gerry
Archer
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 6:01 AM
To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;
Subject: [MBZ] Microsoft Pair creates home-brewing machine


If you were one of the top guys who spent much of the 2000s trying to get
Microsoft to develop tablet computers, you might be ready for a drink.
Or two.
Fortunately, that guy - Bill Mitchell - has figured out how to easily
produce a never-ending supply of absolutely top-notch beer, in any style and
flavor you can imagine.
After leaving Microsoft in 2010, Mitchell started a company called PicoBrew
with his food-scientist brother and a gifted hardware hacker he used to work
with in Redmond.
Together they created a dream machine for small-scale brewing that they're
unveiling Monday.
Called the PicoBrew Zymatic, it's a device the size of a large microwave
oven that almost completely automates the process of producing beer.
The idea was to take the drudgery out of brewing, without sacrificing the
fun or the gratification that comes from creating your own batches, Mitchell
said.
"The beauty for us, especially in beer-making, is it's this great fusion of
science and cooking, of chemistry and cooking," he said. "We didn't want to
lose any of that - in fact we want to enhance that portion of it - and just
take out the bad portions."
They've also applied modern technologies to the ancient art.
Zymatic machines were designed to be Internet appliances. They are
controlled by open-source software, connected to the Web and managed through
a browser.
PicoBrew's software dashboard is used to concoct recipes and adjust brewing
cycles. Users can share recipes through the service and monitor the brewing
process remotely on their smartphone.
Data collected by this online service - from users who opt to share their
brewing activity - will be used to continue refining the machines, which are
also designed to be hacked and modified as buyers see fit.
About 1 million people in the U.S. brew their own beer, from President Obama
on down, according to the American Homebrewers Association. But it remains a
niche hobby because home-brewing can be a hassle.
To make a batch, you may spend most of a day cleaning and sterilizing
vessels and implements, then heating, mixing and cooling the ingredients.
It's also tricky to precisely repeat the process, which is what finally
convinced Mitchell there had to be a better way.
While still an executive leading various Microsoft hardware projects,
Mitchell, 50, began brewing more and more advanced beers at his Medina home,
including Belgian ales, stouts and barley wines.
A turning point came after he produced a particularly great stout for a
soccer-team party. Others raved and asked for more, but he was unable to get
his special recipe to work again.
Mitchell didn't have to look far for help. His brother, Jim, is a physicist
and home-brewer who designs food-processing facilities. Their late
grandfather was a noted General Foods scientist whose inventions led to
products such as Cool Whip, Tang, Jell-O and Pop Rocks candy.
"We said, 'We should be able to come up with something that automates that
process, like a superautomatic espresso maker,'?" Mitchell said. Goals
included a system with precise temperature control that could produce repeat
batches and that could be cleaned in a dishwasher.
At first they tinkered with things like robotic arms and complicated valve
systems. Eventually they gave up trying to mechanically add and remove
ingredients. Instead they figured out a way to circulate water at different
temperatures through the dry ingredients.
To make a batch with a Zymatic, you select a recipe in the browser. Then you
measure and pour grain into a plastic tray and the hops into specially
designed filter baskets. You then slide them into the machine. A small
"Cornelius" keg is filled with water and attached to the machine, which
circulates the water back and forth.
About 3 ½ hours later the batch is done. You add yeast to the keg,
refrigerate it for a week or so and the beer is ready.
The machines are developed and assembl