Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
did it work on the 107 with ABS? Sincerely, Larry On 12/26/2013 9:55 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Worked on 123 without and 126 with. I am fixin ta do it on a 107 with ABS Does the gravity (Issac Newton method is what we called it here in OK) work with anti-lock brake systems? I was under the impression that it won't, hence the need for a pressure bleeder (from either the top or the bottom). -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
did it work on the 107 with ABS? Sincerely, Larry Didn't work on the 107 I worked on because the ABS unit was stuck. It was not because it was a 107. It has worked on 123 and 126 and 124s. That includes every MB I ever worked on the brakes, other than 110. I just never tried it on a 110, not that it would not work. I first tried it on my first SDL, maybe 10 years ago. I'd never heard of it. I just observed that the fluid ran out, so I surmised that the new fluid might run in. It did, so it saved some effort on bleeding and SWMBO was no longer a good brake bleeding partner. I was taught the only way to bleed brakes is the 2 man method. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
I have learned that the only way to bleed brakes is to borrow Fred's pressure bleeder. Easiest thing in the world. Actually next time I'll probably buy my own, it'll save on transportation... -Curt Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 07:46:44 -0600 From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a Message-ID: a0624080ecf1e87838fdb@[192.168.1.52] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed I was taught the only way to bleed brakes is the 2 man method. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Curt. Transportation? In your fuel sipping diesel VW? (Obligatory diesel content). Next time YOU pay for breakfast! Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred. From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, February 10, 2014 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a I have learned that the only way to bleed brakes is to borrow Fred's pressure bleeder. Easiest thing in the world. Actually next time I'll probably buy my own, it'll save on transportation... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Worked on 123 without and 126 with. I am fixin ta do it on a 107 with ABS Does the gravity (Issac Newton method is what we called it here in OK) work with anti-lock brake systems? I was under the impression that it won't, hence the need for a pressure bleeder (from either the top or the bottom). -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Larry wrote: 1. What DOT BF Should I use? I used to use DOT 4 but some forums have made that sound like a poor choice. Don't use DOT3, as that is the cause of swollen hoses that begin to act as check valves. DOT4 is the right stuff - but there is some DOT3/4 on the market that I don't trust. I have used a Valvoline DOT4 for a decade or so. DOT5 is a different beast all together. Non-compatible with DOT3 or DOT4. DOT5e is a super-DOT4 that is compatible with with DOT3 and DOT4 - but I don't know how they interact with Mercedes rubber parts. 2. How can I remove the old valves and put the new ones in without losing lots of fluid or letting sir into the system? Let the fluid run out. I have gravity bleed system by just opening the bleeder. Put grease or anti-seize on the threads. I then like to wash off the leaked out brake fluid, then spray the area with a heavy spray oil like LPS3. Finally I coat the whole bleeder with grease to keep the dirt and water out. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Thanks to all who replied! I now know - DOT4 and gravity are my friends ;-) Merry Christmas - Sincerely, Larry On 12/25/2013 2:58 AM, Fmiser wrote: Larry wrote: 1. What DOT BF Should I use? I used to use DOT 4 but some forums have made that sound like a poor choice. Don't use DOT3, as that is the cause of swollen hoses that begin to act as check valves. DOT4 is the right stuff - but there is some DOT3/4 on the market that I don't trust. I have used a Valvoline DOT4 for a decade or so. DOT5 is a different beast all together. Non-compatible with DOT3 or DOT4. DOT5e is a super-DOT4 that is compatible with with DOT3 and DOT4 - but I don't know how they interact with Mercedes rubber parts. 2. How can I remove the old valves and put the new ones in without losing lots of fluid or letting sir into the system? Let the fluid run out. I have gravity bleed system by just opening the bleeder. Put grease or anti-seize on the threads. I then like to wash off the leaked out brake fluid, then spray the area with a heavy spray oil like LPS3. Finally I coat the whole bleeder with grease to keep the dirt and water out. --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Thanks to all who replied! I now know - DOT4 and gravity are my friends ;-) Merry Christmas - Sincerely, Larry I have successfully gravity bled brakes on 126 and 123. About to do it on 107. Just open the bleeders, go do somethin else and let it drain. Come back later, when the lines are empty. Then fill the master and wait for fluid to run out. close each bleeder when fluid if running out. Simple, but time consuming. Works with abs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Huh. This is interesting. Can all bleeder screws be open and draining at the same time? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 25, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks to all who replied! I now know - DOT4 and gravity are my friends ;-) Merry Christmas - Sincerely, Larry I have successfully gravity bled brakes on 126 and 123. About to do it on 107. Just open the bleeders, go do somethin else and let it drain. Come back later, when the lines are empty. Then fill the master and wait for fluid to run out. close each bleeder when fluid if running out. Simple, but time consuming. Works with abs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Sounds like a great way to bleed brakes on a little used car when in no hurry to put it on the road. Sincerely, Larry On 12/25/2013 9:42 AM, Dieselhead wrote: Thanks to all who replied! I now know - DOT4 and gravity are my friends ;-) Merry Christmas - Sincerely, Larry I have successfully gravity bled brakes on 126 and 123. About to do it on 107. Just open the bleeders, go do somethin else and let it drain. Come back later, when the lines are empty. Then fill the master and wait for fluid to run out. close each bleeder when fluid if running out. Simple, but time consuming. Works with abs. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
Does the gravity (Issac Newton method is what we called it here in OK) work with anti-lock brake systems? I was under the impression that it won't, hence the need for a pressure bleeder (from either the top or the bottom). -- OK Don They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin 1775 in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes. - Benjamin Franklin 1789 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] re Brake Bleeder Valve removal dave3u9a
I don't know for sure. I always heard that ABS systems required a pressure bleeder. Scott -Original Message- From: OK Don Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 10:54 PM Does the gravity (Issac Newton method is what we called it here in OK) work with anti-lock brake systems? I was under the impression that it won't, hence the need for a pressure bleeder (from either the top or the bottom). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
