Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
I knew about the extra cylinder! Didn't know if the directions varied otherwise. Thanks. CM Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann wrote: braodband - WORD. I think Marshall sent the relevant instructions, but for 617...this is a 76 240D...prolly slightly different? Most decidedly the 616 is different. It's lacking the 617's fifth cylinder! The shop manual I have is entitled, Service Manual, Engines 615, 616, 617.91. They're all the same. Forget your hyperness. Craig ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 150K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 209K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Nov 11 05:14:04 2005 Received: from rwcrmhc12.comcast.net ([216.148.227.85]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EaREi-0006Az-2a for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:14:04 + Received: from comcast.net (c-24-18-178-168.hsd1.wa.comcast.net[24.18.178.168](misconfigured sender)) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc12) with SMTP id 20050514000140012q9de; Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:14:00 + Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:13:53 -0800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v553) From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.553) X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] Beer enema X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 05:14:05 - I suspect the sweeties pictured are not the ones you are going to find locally. I have noticed that some of the girls end up with different pix, or some gals all have the same pic. The thing keys off your IP address On Thursday, November 10, 2005, at 08:08 PM, LT Don wrote: Hit the link and they came up with three from my small town -- all age 19. Yanked my 18 year old daugher in and asked if she saw any classmates or former classmates there. She drew a blank. Since I didn't tell the link where I lived and it still came up with my town and zip code (below the models' photos) I think there must be some super-cookie at work here. I'd understand if I was using Windoze, but his happened with Linux! Or maybe these ARE local girls who only come out at night? On 11/9/05, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.dumpalink.com/media/1131535942/Beer_And_A_Butt -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Clay Seattle Bioburner 1972 220D - Gump 1995 E300D - Cleo 1987 300SDL - POS - DOA The FSM would drive a Diesel Benz
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
= uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 00:51:15 2005 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.201]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea0ep-0002OY-KA for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:15 + Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i7so450986wra for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:51:11 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; b=oZ7c1rouEa7CEguNlRBf6dy56vg8G8KkS42j4qZtAm94AcjiaC9ya4+EeyV3Ic3MLBC/LxsuRL6dH3DOp7KvmXPNXeFBopxolV+JamH6lbjhepNb2GCwRlZB3krp5ZzJkSD34yGTtCYjfrnyUOASRJK6jr5qJp0aDNFrXe+QfgE= Received: by 10.54.137.9 with SMTP id k9mr133177wrd; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.133.10 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:51:08 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:08 + From: LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:51:15 - We are used to it. How's my honorary granddaughter? On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: =3D uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power =3D more fuel =3D uh, yea. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... Thanks! Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotk=E4ppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Pr=FCfenlastwagen =3D Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
hay look the purpose of this list should be to help answer questions problems will never be fixed and knowledge will not passed if people dont ask questions ( dhe hell good is this list for if we cant put our heads together!) oh yeah misadjusted vales can also cause engine damage collins 1985 500 sec In a message dated 11/9/2005 7:48:29 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: = uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-)
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:00:25 2005 Received: from wsip-70-184-21-236.ok.ok.cox.net ([70.184.21.236] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea0nh-0003bm-JB for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:00:25 + Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:00:27 -0600 From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:00:26 - same wrenches, you adjust cold, not hot. Christopher McCann wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net
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Feeler gauges are generic. Best are the ones that are marked metric and SAE . On 11/9/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf ( http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D
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cold, OK...I think I got confused with Marshall's comment in another message on cold COMPRESSION TESTING being variable...now that I think about it, I remember asking my Indy about this once and he said, No we don't adjust them cold, we adjust them at room temperature. HAHAHA! same wrenches - sweet. Thanks! Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: same wrenches, you adjust cold, not hot. Christopher McCann wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? Thanks! Chris Mitch Haley wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: maladjusted - i.e. badly in need of adjustment... If they are too tight, they will definitely make the car run crappy and waste fuel. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:14:58 2005 Received: from mta2.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.178]) by server1.arterytc1.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea11m-0004zP-82 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:14:58 + Received: from your03667082de ([68.233.126.219]) by mta9.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id [EMAIL PROTECTED] for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:18 -0500 Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Tom Scordato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: [MBZ] 300D timing chain replacement X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe:
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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Christopher McCann wrote: = uh, thanks that's what I thought, but never hurts to ask, except I look dumb, but I don't care about that :-) Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Less power = more fuel = uh, yea. And will start more and more poorly as temps drop. May not start at all when temps get much below freezing. Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Christopher happily typed: She is doing well. Congrats, pappy. They pronounced it mer-said-is - don't know if that is correct. Yes, that is exactly correct. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ
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hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
Christopher McCann wrote: cold, OK...I think I got confused with Marshall's comment in another message on cold COMPRESSION TESTING being variable...now that I think about it, I remember asking my Indy about this once and he said, No we don't adjust them cold, we adjust them at room temperature. HAHAHA! same wrenches - sweet. Remember, it takes an engine about eight hours after it's been shut down before it reaches room temp! Even running it for 20-30 sec will warm the engine enough to prevent proper, even adjustment. If you expect temps to go below zero (F) the intake valve clearance needs to change from 0.004 to 0.006 (that's 0.10 mm to 0.15 mm). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy?
I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 01:47:57 2005 Received: from web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.64]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Ea1Xh-00088B-MP for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:47:57 + Received: (qmail 35443 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2005 01:47:53 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=F5abaIcKdn84sqhQT8gFN2qW78mDY+DP04wtalAwjXCZ8vNO2GTR7f9/QUHt0g8bksmqlAT8uXxNNKfSfM9xSOAWyc4/Y6UEv0te6HC9UKKWkkb/w7KV3U8gbRWTt6EnHoxP3qE4hFbPnXtPUqdrTV+zNp//N86dxLrNOuGIIDw= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:47:53 PST Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:47:53 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:47:57 - thanks for the congrats and the confirmation on pronunciation...Liesel Mercedes...hmmm Chris Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher happily typed: She is doing well. Congrats, pappy. They pronounced it mer-said-is - don't know if that is correct. Yes, that is exactly correct. Bob Rentfro '77 300D 142K Litchfield Park, AZ ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38
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Valves don't close, combustion gases leak, burning valves and seats, possible cracking the head. On 11/9/05, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: damage - how? valves hit piston? valves move too much and damage themselves? Chris -- OK Don, KD5NRO Norman, OK '90 300D, '87 300SDL, '81 240D, '78 450SLC The FSM created the Diesel Benz http://www.venganza.org/
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Christopher McCann wrote: damage - how? valves hit piston? valves move too much and damage themselves? Valves with negative clearance (always open) getting scorched by flames flowing past them when they should be shut. You should read the valve adjustment .pdf from the factory service manual. If you are on broadband, just say the word and I'm sure somebody will email it to you.
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Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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Marshall -- If Chris has a cold setting he wouldn't have seventeen daughters and still be in his 20s. Don On 11/10/05, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen
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LT Don wrote: Marshall -- If Chris has a cold setting he wouldn't have seventeen daughters and still be in his 20s. Now you tell me Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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this is very very sad. Less than a year ago you were a 1-MB newbie, now you have 3. Christopher McCann wrote: I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts
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1.5 years ago I was the same 1 MB didn't have a clue MB. Now I have 4 and trade for parts On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:52:09 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is very very sad. Less than a year ago you were a 1-MB newbie, now you have 3. Christopher McCann wrote: I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark '83 300SD (happily running WVO/diesel mix) '82 300CD (Slate grey, black MBTex, WVO/D mix) '82 300D '90 300E (both parts or can run??)
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Absolutely. Will also cause hard starts, excessive smoke, and injector knock. Also, burnt valves eventually. Peter
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On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D Yes. and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. Feeler gauges are a generic item. The specs are in millimeters, but you can translate that to inches. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. For Mercedes diesels, stone cold is the way to go; hot adjustment is too variable since the engine temperature is changing while you're working. Intake 0.10 mm (0.004)0.15 mm (0.006) for steady ambient temperatures below -20 deg.C (-4 deg.F) Exhaust0.30 mm (0.012) Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? I'm sure it is. Marshall posted a site for manual pages earlier in the week. The procedure is sure to be there. Job number 05-210. Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 222 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html
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Craig McCluskey wrote: On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:56:51 -0800 (PST) Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thanks, Mitch. Someone who HAD a 220D gave me his old valve adjustement wrenches - 14mm. Will these work on a '76 240D Yes. and if so, what else do I need...feeler guages...are those car specific or do they come in a generic set at an auto parts store?. Feeler gauges are a generic item. The specs are in millimeters, but you can translate that to inches. I obviously need some numbers that I need to adjust to...want to do it hot as I know that is the better way to go. For Mercedes diesels, stone cold is the way to go; hot adjustment is too variable since the engine temperature is changing while you're working. Intake 0.10 mm (0.004)0.15 mm (0.006) for steady ambient temperatures below -20 deg.C (-4 deg.F) Exhaust0.30 mm (0.012) Any quidance greatly appreciated. Is the procedure online anywhere? I'm sure it is. Marshall posted a site for manual pages earlier in the week. The procedure is sure to be there. Job number 05-210. Two additions: Exhaust valve clearance for OM617.95 engines is 0.35 mm (0.3 is correct for non-turbo 61x engines). If ambient temps are anticipated to drop below zero (F) even just overnight I would go with the the 0.15 mm (0.006) intake valve clearance. A valve adjusted to 0.10 mm at room temp is very likely to hang open at zero (F) and if it does, the engine isn't going to start! As temps drop, so does valve clearance (the temp coefficient of the valves and head are different). Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi
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it is very sad...I now have three MB's to screw up while learning rather than just one. Thank God I found a good Indy and learn on the 240D rust bucket...and I'm still a newbie! Chris Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this is very very sad. Less than a year ago you were a 1-MB newbie, now you have 3. Christopher McCann wrote: I loved the OkieQ, will definitely be there...now I have three MB's to choose from for the trip...the 300TD is getting cooler and cooler (the more I drive it)...even if it is packed with kiddie car seats. Chris Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: hopefully he shows up at the next okieq LT Don wrote: I'd have sent a congratulations IF you'd informed us of the event ... dude! Last I heard, you were being forbidden to attend the BBQ-Q due to an impending birth. On 11/10/05, Christopher McCann wrote: :-) -- 1977 240D 1972 Honda CB-500K motorcycle http://www.airamericaradio.com/listen ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 Okie Benz Auto parts-email for used parts ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 19:22:22 2005 Received: from web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.217]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EaI05-000725-Pn for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:22:22 + Received: (qmail 19972 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2005 19:22:16 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=ozbuM69rUoeqdklD6jOVl0R/htLxsljcWulb8CafSk014ZjzVyyZ4XpxS+ONstyGF4wYldCiPxR3RADLDFTkayU+TDrhQVXniIqIKnIbtfbeRLd1p6UqqD0yJL0XqE+ogjNECF2eaH970J8+Bkwv4gAYeMOMHk+6Ulks3l0fGpk= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30014.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:22:16 PST Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:22:16 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:22:22 - slight exaggeration - 5 daughters and 32. Chris LT Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall -- If Chris has a cold setting he wouldn't have seventeen daughters and still be in his 20s. Don On 11/10/05, Marshall Booth wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling
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Marshall, This is for a 617...I'm talking about the 240D. braingears doesn;t work, for some reason, for me. Would you please send me the same instructions for the 616 in the W115 240D (1976)? Thanks! Chris Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: Do you adjust the exhaust valve clearance too (imagine you do)...what are the clearances for them? Any online description on how to do this? Maybe in my friends W123 240D chiltons (or haynes?) manual... Don't even consider doing the job without reading the manual! http://mb.braingears.com/123_DISK2/program/Engine/617/05-210.pdf Ignore the references to warm setting - ONLY adjust the valves cold! Marshall -- Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thu Nov 10 19:34:05 2005 Received: from web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.201.218]) by server1.arterytc1.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EaIBR-0008Vm-Eo for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:34:05 + Received: (qmail 88484 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Nov 2005 19:34:00 - DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=MRwMplYTkJmNkI0cMKw8c1lgENYdJwjFP+IOF3JgUEys1dcX6dYs/kTP9kuNB0v2p6OTTG0A3fFG4gIFKgdeOSXBh8X51pFXFTyEoX6gybF/OiQZ0MAGU6+qeXCE4rt3+m4soeJ8r2Fjp9GixAXub4+fOgAUft6wcXJzTdrqjmQ= ; Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from [66.140.70.226] by web30015.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:34:00 PST Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:34:00 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] will maladjusted valves reduce fuel economy? X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Id: Mercedes mailing list mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:34:05 - braodband - WORD. I think Marshall sent the relevant instructions, but for 617...this is a 76 240D...prolly slightly different? Chris Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher McCann wrote: damage - how? valves hit piston? valves move too much and damage themselves? Valves with negative clearance (always open) getting scorched by flames flowing past them when they should be shut. You should read the valve adjustment .pdf from the factory service manual. If you are on broadband, just say the word and I'm sure somebody will email it to you. ___ For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -1987 300TD, 150K miles, Rotkäppchen (Little Red Riding Hood) -1985 300SD, 209K miles, Wulf (http://www.pictureblogger.com/My-1985-Mercedes-Benz-300SD) -1976 240D, ManyK miles, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen = Alternative Fuel Test Vehicle) running WVO/WMO/LO/CO/WATF/WGL/WBF/DA/MS/lard/gas/kero/D2 mix (do not attempt this at home!) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP
