Re: Mersenne: 266 vs 333 ddr on Athlon

2002-08-27 Thread Daran

- Original Message -
From: "Brian J. Beesley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Marc Honey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:27 AM
Subject: Re: Mersenne: 266 vs 333 ddr on Athlon

> On Tuesday 27 August 2002 02:08, Marc Honey wrote:
> > Anyone else notice that a kt333 Athlon board using an Athlon XP gets
better
> > performance at 266 than at 333?  I was amazed at the difference, and yes
I
> > tweaked out the bios under both memory speeds.  AMD really needs a fsb
> > speed update!
>
> Weird. Possibly your 266 MHz DDRAM is CL2 but your 333 MHz DDRAM is CL3.

Or perhaps it's the asynchronous operation of the memory, which may increase
latency.  The increased memory speed per se does not help, because bandwidth
is limited by the 266MHz FSB.  I would suggest that the memory controller is
the issue here.  What chipset?

> Also, I have two near-identical systems using 1.2GHz T'bird Athlons in
> Abit KT7A mobos, with CL2 PC133 memory. The only difference is that one
> of the CPUs is 200 MHz FSB the other is 266 MHz. Both are running the
> memory at 133 MHz (the BIOS on the KT7A lets you do this). The system
> speeds are within 1% of each other.

Here it is the SDR memory bandwidth which is the limiting factor.  The 1%
improvement probably comes again from synchronous operation.

> Regards
> Brian Beesley

Daran G.


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Re: Mersenne: Are We Losing Members?

2002-08-27 Thread Gary Edstrom

On Wed, 28 Aug 2002 00:20:03 -0400, Nathan Russell
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>At first, I thought it was an issue with the firewall here at school,
>but once I authenticate to it, I can open another browser session (or
>even an entirely different program) and stay authenticated.  I can
>also use any other program, e.g. instant messanging clients, without
>problems.  

[snip]

I also have been unable to connect with the server today.  And that is
from 3 different computers on 2 different networks.

Gary

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Re: Mersenne: Are We Losing Members?

2002-08-27 Thread Nathan Russell

On Tue, 27 Aug 2002 22:57:24 -0400, Jeff Woods wrote:

>On 23 August, we had 18021 accounts and 31701 machines, per the website.
>
>Today, 4 days later, we have 17916 accounts and 31511 machines.

Personally, I'm unable to contact the PrimeNet server.  

At first, I thought it was an issue with the firewall here at school,
but once I authenticate to it, I can open another browser session (or
even an entirely different program) and stay authenticated.  I can
also use any other program, e.g. instant messanging clients, without
problems.  

Also, I had no issues last year when the firewall rules were in some
ways, if anything, stricter.  

My hunch is that the server is having problems, and some accounts that
would normally have contacted in the last few days and have been
listed as still active were instead placed on the inactive list in the
server stats.  

Nathan
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Mersenne: Are We Losing Members?

2002-08-27 Thread Jeff Woods

On 23 August, we had 18021 accounts and 31701 machines, per the website.

Today, 4 days later, we have 17916 accounts and 31511 machines.

We lost over 100 members in 4 days, and almost 200 machines?

What's up with that?

We've also done only about half our usual throughput today.   Is this related?

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Re: Mersenne: 266 vs 333 ddr on Athlon

2002-08-27 Thread Brian J. Beesley

On Tuesday 27 August 2002 02:08, Marc Honey wrote:
> Anyone else notice that a kt333 Athlon board using an Athlon XP gets better
> performance at 266 than at 333?  I was amazed at the difference, and yes I
> tweaked out the bios under both memory speeds.  AMD really needs a fsb
> speed update!

Weird. Possibly your 266 MHz DDRAM is CL2 but your 333 MHz DDRAM is CL3.

Also, I have two near-identical systems using 1.2GHz T'bird Athlons in Abit 
KT7A mobos, with CL2 PC133 memory. The only difference is that one of the 
CPUs is 200 MHz FSB the other is 266 MHz. Both are running the memory at 133 
MHz (the BIOS on the KT7A lets you do this). The system speeds are within 1% 
of each other.

Regards
Brian Beesley

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