Mersenne: Would you....

2001-06-19 Thread vincent mooney

George, would you consider adding

Mersenne Number Tests  -  Version 21.1.1

either after the 

Waiting xx seconds for boot to complete  (e.g., 13 or 22 or 30 or whatever)

or after

Resuming primality test of nnn...

so that the user knows what version of software is running upon boot up. 

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Re: Mersenne: taxifornia brownout

2001-06-09 Thread vincent mooney

I'd guess that sales of UPS's are on the upswing.

At 05:20 PM 6/9/01 -0700, Spike wrote:
You may have heard that our so-called Governor, here in the
great state of Taxifornia has proposed replacing rolling
blackouts with universal brownouts:  reducing line voltage
about 10-15% on hot days this summer.  Any guesses
at how that will effect a computer running GIMPS?

spike


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Mersenne: Juno Warning

2001-04-17 Thread vincent mooney

Someone on this list earlier warned about Juno using subscriber's
computers.  Here is a portion of the current Juno Virtual Supercomputer
Project data. 

"The idea behind the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project is simple. Today,
researchers who have large, computationally demanding problems to solve
often tackle them by running them on a "supercomputer," which is a computer
facility that might be as powerful as several thousand separate personal
computers. Juno plans to offer such researchers an even more powerful tool,
by dividing such problems into a number of smaller, simpler problems, then
downloading each small problem to a Juno member's computer (in much the
same way that we currently download e-mail and advertisements to our
members' computers) to solve. The member's computer will work on solving
the small problem by running various mathematical calculations during time
when the computer would otherwise be idle. These calculations will be
performed only when the computer's screen saver program is running, and
never when the member is using the machine. Once the problem is solved, the
solution will be stored temporarily on the member's computer, then
delivered to Juno during the member's next connection to our central
computers (much as Juno currently stores and delivers your responses to the
ads you see on the service). 

"I use Juno's free basic service—do I have to participate in the Juno
Virtual Supercomputer Project?" 

Participation in this initial phase is strictly voluntary. At some point in
the future we may require some or all users of our free service to
participate as a condition of using the service for free, but we expect to
use volunteers to supply the computational power required for the project's
initial activities. If we do make participation mandatory for free
subscribers in the future, we will notify any affected subscribers by
e-mail, and would expect to offer them the alternative of upgrading to one
of our billable premium services if they prefer not to participate in the
project. 


"I'm a paying subscriber to one of Juno's premium services—do I have to
participate in the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project?" 

No. Even if we decide at some point to require some or all users of our
free basic service to participate in the project, we do not expect such a
requirement to apply to our paying subscribers, whose participation is
expected to remain strictly optional. 

"Should I be worried about Juno downloading data and software to my
computer?" 

No. Juno has been downloading data and software to your computer since the
day you first subscribed. Ads, for example, are already temporarily stored
on your hard drive in preparation for display at times when you're not
connected to Juno's central computers, just as scientific problems and data
would be temporarily stored on your hard drive if you decide to participate
in the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project. Software is already downloaded
for execution on your machine to allow you, for example, to respond to a
promotional offer by one of our advertisers, and such responses may then be
uploaded to our central computers the next time you connect to the service,
in a manner analogous to the downloading of scientific problems and the
uploading of results as part of the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project.
From time to time, we also download new versions of the Juno software to
bring your version up to date, and we expect to download new scientific
software from time to time as part of the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project. 

In short, we have downloaded data and software to literally millions of
people over the past five years, and have consistently done so
successfully, without causing problems to our users' computers. If you
decide to participate in the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project, the main
difference will be that the software and data downloaded to your computer
will be used not only to support the Juno service and ad system, but also
to allow your computer to perform its share of the calculations involved in
various scientific problems, and to save the results of these calculations
so they can be reported back to our central computers. 

"If I participate in the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project, will my
computer have to stay connected to the Internet all day? Will I have to be
online for my computer to contribute to the project's supercomputing
activities?" 

No. To participate in this project, your computer will only have to connect
to Juno's central computers for relatively short periods of time, roughly
comparable to the connections you currently make when you send or receive
e-mail. The actual work of solving the problem can take place even when
you're not connected to the Internet. 

"Do I have to leave my computer on all day?" 

No, but the Juno Virtual Supercomputer Project can make use of your
computer only if it is turned on, so the longer you keep your computer
turned on, the more you'll contribute to the project. At 

Notification for RE: Mersenne: LL question

2001-03-28 Thread vincent mooney




Re: Mersenne: Factoring on elderly machines.

2001-03-04 Thread vincent mooney

At 06:05 AM 3/4/01 -0800, Paul Leyland wrote:
Three weeks ago, I wrote:

 The integer factoring people can always use more cycles, and 
 even antique machines make valuable contributions in a reasonable
 time.  For instance, I have small number of DECstations and a Sun
 SS2 on my home network all running the ECMNET client.  These
 boxes are perhaps as powerful as a 486DX2-66.

A few days ago my DECstation 5000/240 found a 32-digit factor of
Cullen(831), that is 831*2^831+1, with the ECMNET client.  Ok, so it's not a
Mersenne number but the ECMNET server could just as easily be loaded with
them.


Owners of elderly machines should not despair just yet.

Paul

Speaking for myself, having completed over 260 factorings over 5 years,
with no primes found, I say that elderly owners of machines should not
despair just yet.

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Re: Mersenne: The Matrix

2001-02-12 Thread vincent mooney

Clever and I like it. I will use it when it is delivered.


At 05:40 PM 2/11/01 -0800, Stephan T. Lavavej wrote:
With respect to the screensaver idea,
The difficult thing about visualizing the Lucas-Lehmer compuation is that
it's so... abstract.  There isn't any immediately obvious way to see its
progress other than what's currently done: a readout of the iteration number
and clock cycle.  However, another idea did spring into my mind.  Everyone
here is familiar with The Matrix, and the screens of green scrolling numbers
and letters displayed at various points in the movie.  I suggest that the
screensaver might display the intermediate residues in hexadecimal in such a
fashion, dropping the residues hexit-by-hexit on the screen such that one
residue's worth of digits is displayed every iteration.  This way, it's just
not a green blurry readout of a list of residues, but a staggered waterfall
of hexits.  I think it would look nifty.  Faster computers would have a
faster flowing waterfall of hexits, and it would also depend on the size of
the number being tested.  It's simple, and it immediately shows the
"fastness" of the computation and its intermediate results in a way that
humans could see.  People would probably want to be able to configure the
colors of the hexits displayed, I'm sure.

-*---*---
Stephan T. Lavavej



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Re: Mersenne: Microsoft patents zeroes and ones

2001-01-03 Thread vincent mooney

It's an old joke.  That's why it is in The Onion.


At 05:58 PM 1/3/01 EST, Ernst wrote:
Check out

http://www.theonion.com/onion3311/microsoftpatents.html

At $0.10 per binary digit, the royalty fee GIMPS would
owe Microsoft for the last Mersenne prime is nearly
$70. Should we divide this equally amongst GIMPS
participants, or bill people proportionally to their
CPU-year contributions? I hope the fellow whose run
actually discovered the prime hasn't spent all his
EFF prize money yet...

On the plus side, such royalty fees are legitimately tax
deductible as business expenses. As usual, we can count
on Bill Gates to look out for the little guy. Thanks,
Bill!

-Ernst


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