Mersenne: IRC chat?

2002-11-18 Thread Nathan Russell
I'm in DALnet #mersenne, if anyone wants to stop by and say hello...
I've got classes all day, so I'll kind of be in and out though.  

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Re: Mersenne: IRC?

2000-03-22 Thread Jukka Santala

"Brian J. Beesley" wrote:

> The problem here is that using IRC you only get immediate response
> from those who happen to be online at the time.

That's not a problem, it's the purpose of IRC... ;) Regardless, I've
(intermittently) keeping up the channel #Mersenne on DALnet IRC network at
irc.dal.net (You need to grab a client from http://www.mirc.com if you use
Windows or http://www.irchelp.org otherwise to connect) and people are welcome
there, but we need some people or it'll be rather boring. I intended to
use/mean this channel in the same way www.mersenne.org as a sort of "All
distributed projects" channel.

> (1) IRC (like voice telephone) is on-line and you therefore tend to
> mouth off before thinking out a logical, coherent reply;

s/on-line/real-time. Actually, the same holds true for instant messengers and
the way most people use e-mail. It's also very much like the evil "Real World"
you hear legends being told about ;) In other words, it isn't just a
disadvantage, there are some advantages to that too.

As for myself, the main problem is that 99% of the time nothing is happening, I
pay per minute online, not to mention keeping me from doing something useful,
and when something interesting happens I'm never there anyway because of
timezones. On the positive side, you can have automated interactice services
(bots) that for example announce changes in web-sites etc. as things happen,
and presence on one of the IRC networks will always attract curious people who
may decide to join the effort.

> (2) Previous experience with joining an IRC group, leaving soon
> afterwards but taking ages to lose the vast pile of commercial spam
> which seems to be attracted to anyone who uses IRC at all.

They're called channels, and mostly that depends specifically on the channel
you join. If you get a message from a stranger to go to some channel for
example, don't join, because those kinds of channels have usually been set up
by somebody for the bizarre reason of getting high usercount alone and have
nothing happening but other such people advertising their channels! Also,
setting yourself "Invisible" from the mIRC login settings will remove you from
the public user listings so people can't message you with advertisements out of
the blue. However these days most IRC networks do pretty good work weeding out
those ads.

 -Donwulff

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Re: Mersenne: IRC?

2000-03-21 Thread Brian J. Beesley

On 20 Mar 00, at 17:54, Nathan Russell wrote:

> When I was in distributed.net, there was an official IRC channel in which
> people could ask questions and discuss the project much more rapidly than
> is possible on a mailing list.

The problem here is that using IRC you only get immediate response 
from those who happen to be online at the time.

Personally I dislike IRC for two reasons:-

(1) IRC (like voice telephone) is on-line and you therefore tend to 
mouth off before thinking out a logical, coherent reply;

(2) Previous experience with joining an IRC group, leaving soon 
afterwards but taking ages to lose the vast pile of commercial spam 
which seems to be attracted to anyone who uses IRC at all.

> It has occured to me that this could be something positive for GIMPS. 

Provided that someone competent could moderate it.



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Mersenne: IRC?

2000-03-20 Thread Nathan Russell

When I was in distributed.net, there was an official IRC channel in which 
people could ask questions and discuss the project much more rapidly than is 
possible on a mailing list.

It has occured to me that this could be something positive for GIMPS.  
Dalnet and certain other networks allow maintaining control over a channel 
without someone needing to remain on it continously.

As a newbie, I know that I have asked questions to which the answers were 
relatively basic, albeit not covered by the FAQ.  If newbies were able to go 
to an IRC channel, they could get immediate responce to their questions, and 
more experienced participants could have their concerns addressed or debate 
issues without inconviencing those who have no immediate interest.

Nathan Russell
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