Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread Ruediger zu Dohna

andu wrote:
 I'd suggest defaulting to the old file/folder selector.

Nonono!!! NavServices are a great improvement, don't turn back that clock!

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Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin

On 6/14/00 1:00 AM, Dave Cragg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the problem with this (new) Navigation Services file selector on
 MacOS is that you can't select a folder like with the old one unless
 I'm missing something. Besides it has no live scrolling and really
 looks and acts like a visualBasic thing. I'd suggest defaulting to
 the old file/folder selector.

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Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread Kevin Miller

On 14/6/00 4:03 am, andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the problem with this (new) Navigation Services file selector on MacOS is that
 you can't select a folder like with the old one unless I'm missing something.
 Besides it has no live scrolling and really looks and acts like a visualBasic
 thing. I'd suggest defaulting to the old file/folder selector.

Afraid I disagree: navigation services is a much more flexible dialog,
allowing, for example, drag dropping in a Finder folder to navigate.  Folder
answering is fixed in the latest engine.  And any future system extensions
or enhancements to file navigation are going to be made by NS.  Going
backwards here is a bit like saying "I don't like OS 9, lets make MC only
work on OS 8".  (Though you can always set the dontUseNS to true if you want
to turn it off.)

Regards,

Kevin

 Regards, Andu
 
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Re: Slicing and dicing tabular data

2000-06-14 Thread Raymond E. Griffith

on 6/14/2000 5:01 AM, Ruediger zu Dohna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Richard Gaskin wrote:
 Or, if we wanted to entertain the concept of a "colulmn" chunk type, we
 could look at a broader set of language extensions.
 
 We have had an external for this for about 8 years now and I had
 proposed a different syntax on the xTalk list on March 20th, but I
 hardly got any response... maybe I too should post to the metaCard list
 instead ;-)
 
 The idea is essential, though!
 
 Regards
 RĂ¼diger
 
A "column" chunk type would be good. But would it be implemented with items?
For example, if you have a several lines, each a comma-delimited list,
column(2) of mylist would return item 2 of each line, separated by returns.

Yes, I'd like that! In fact, that would make life a *lot* easier in certain
areas! Scott?

Raymond


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Re: Slicing and dicing tabular data

2000-06-14 Thread diskot123

Fyi, I've contributed a new stack to the Cross Worlds site. It's a
standalone spreadsheet object, with many of the standard features.

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Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread andu



On 14/6/00 4:03 am, andu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 the problem with this (new) Navigation Services file selector on MacOS is that
 you can't select a folder like with the old one unless I'm missing something.
 Besides it has no live scrolling and really looks and acts like a visualBasic
 thing. I'd suggest defaulting to the old file/folder selector.

Afraid I disagree: navigation services is a much more flexible dialog,
allowing, for example, drag dropping in a Finder folder to navigate.  Folder
answering is fixed in the latest engine.  And any future system extensions
or enhancements to file navigation are going to be made by NS. 

I know I should argue this with Apple but aside for not being able to resize it, I 
never found something wrong with the old one. Turning it into a complex application, 
seems to me, is just the old marketing trick of *creating* the need for  more and more 
"features" and always at a price.  

 Going
backwards here is a bit like saying "I don't like OS 9, lets make MC only
work on OS 8".  (Though you can always set the dontUseNS to true if you want
to turn it off.)

Regards,

Kevin

 Regards, Andu
 
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Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread Richard Gaskin

On 6/14/00 8:34 AM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I know I should argue this with Apple but aside for not being able to resize
 it, I never found something wrong with the old one. Turning it into a complex
 application, seems to me, is just the old marketing trick of *creating* the
 need for  more and more "features" and always at a price.

My biggest complaint with the old one was that it was fully modal, and that
it was not resizable.

My only complains with Nav Services are the lack of live scrolling (geez,
what year are they designing in?) and the really flakey response to the
Enter key (it now differs from the Return key, in violation of their own
guidelines on how default buttons work).

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Answer dialog hot keys

2000-06-14 Thread Larry_R_Huisingh

Is there any way to specify which keys will be hot keys in the answer dialog
for 2.3.1B2?  It appears that it just uses the first character by default.

Larry Huisingh


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Re: File selector-MacOS

2000-06-14 Thread Geoff Canyon

Richard Gaskin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said, on 6/14/00 8:57 AM:

My only complains with Nav Services are the lack of live scrolling (geez,
what year are they designing in?) and the really flakey response to the
Enter key (it now differs from the Return key, in violation of their own
guidelines on how default buttons work).

Disclaimer: I agree that we can't go back. I dislike that there is no 
"Desktop" button in the new dialog, that there is no place to click to go 
up one folder level (used to be able to click the drive icon), that there 
is no keyboard command to switch drives (used to be able to command-right 
arrow and command left-arrow), and finally, that hard drives don't sort 
to the top of the list in the desktop.

curmudgeon
While we're at it, what sense does it make to give the desktop special 
status in a file dialog? On network volumes, the desktop folder is 
depicted as it really is: a folder at the root level of the drive. 
Wouldn't it make (some) sense to to do the same for local drives as well? 
It would tend to remove some of the confusion about what drive holds the 
desktop, and make it so that the top level would just display all the 
available volumes, something that makes a lot of sense to me since they 
don't sort the drives to the top of the list anymore. Why, in my day, 
computers were steam powered! If you wanted a printout, you had to go out 
and chop the wood to make the paper! You kids don't know how easy you 
have it!
/curmudgeon

gc

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