Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
Andu: Thanks for lightening up this thread... ( I had to hold myself down after reading "OJ certified not guilty") Much needed/appreciated laughter aside: you make a good point. The sense of security when in fact anyone with ill intentions will find a way around it... etc. can be more dangerous... Then where do we go from here? Seems we saying: a) no please people, be smart, do not distribute MC engine as a player and b) do not create a tool that will auto set *.mc docs to auto boot from either i. the mc engine itself ii. some stand alone we might create with the engine embedded. "there is no difference" (between a and b) you said. OK, then if that IS what we are saying (I am losing sight a bit of what each of you wizards thinks we can/should or should not do. except for Chipp who seems fairly adamant about being very careful.) Then where do we go from here? If we back off for a moment from the goal of "ubiquitous as Acrobat" then one middle ground for now seems clear: at least you can distribute a standalone whose duty is not to download and run just any stacks, but only those that we create and which it calls for. Then we use the web to deliver that standalone. As we do now from www.himalayanacademy.com/studyhall/ (fyi, that technology there is 2 years old... (2.3.2) need to upgrade it all but I want to understand all this first.) or, Andu, do you mean to imply "No, go ahead and distribute the engine... there will always be a risk, no matter what you think you can do to secure it." mmm. Scott Raney are you lurking? Please do jump in! Happy Holidays to all! Sivakatirswami On Tuesday, December 24, 2002, at 08:09 AM, andu wrote: Here's a less microsoftian solution for a "sane" MC helper application for browsers: make a stack which opens off screen or invisible with something like... on startup answer "Ready to format your hard drive??"\ with "OK" and "Cancel" if it is "Cancel" then quit exit startup Move the answer dialog into the stack, save and make it a standalone. Use this standalone as the helper application instead of MC engine and send me $300 every year. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
What to expect when memory's running low
Hello everyone, I'm working on a stack that indexes big (15 to 200 MB) text files and breaks them into smaller files with similar information. This is done by reading the source file into an array whose elements get written to their own output file. The output files are tab-delimited text, between 500 KB and 3 MB, and typically have 100,000 lines (each line represents information from a variable or field from one record of the source file, so you can think of the source file as being a database with 100,000 records). My stack works fine (surprisingly so for me...) as long as I don't mess with more than 90,000 records, I can hardcode a read of about 90,000 lines into various array elements and then dump them to their own files. However, when I let the stack run through the entire source file of about 104,000 records (letting it read until an eof is reached), it hangs (spinning coloured beach ball in Mac OS X) when writing the very last array element to its own file. If I force quit MetaCard, and check the individual output files, it turns out that all of the data is, in fact, written successfully, so the main handler is doing its job, but there isn't enough juice to refresh the stack window (for instance, to display a status field that indicates that the process has been completed, the time, number of records, etc.) or give control back to MC (beach ball to pointer). I've tried to minimize memory usage by putting empty into array elements or deleting them entirely once they are no longer needed. I guess my question (sorry for the diatribe) is this: Am I dealing with a memory problem? And, if so, what's the best way around it? I'm considering writing to files repeatedly rather than once at the end, or running the handler two or more times, effectively breaking up the reading of the source files into many parts. Greg Happy X-Mas Gregory Lypny Associate Professor John Molson School of Business Concordia University _ "Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence." - Anonymous ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Special Folder Path Codes
Just a quick note to let you all know that I have uploaded to my site the comprehensive listing of special folder path codes used in Mac OS, OS X and Windows. Here you go: http://www.sonsothunder.com/devres/metacard/metacard.htm?file010 Enjoy! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Visual Basic and video
Hi Jack, I'm pretty comfortable using Applesxripts in Metacard. How easy is it to call Visual Basic program in Metacard? I need to build specific Metacard apps that will allow the user to import digital/analog video from cameras. That is presently not possible in Metacard. I can use iMovie and BTV on MacOs - but I'm thinking I'm going to need to create my own on the windows side. Any ideas? revVideoGrabber ,optionalparameters :-) How do you like this line ;-) All this and more in the next version of RR. And crossplatform, of course... Thanks in advance! Merry christmas :-) Jack Rarick Braintree Athletic Systems Regards from germany Klaus Major [EMAIL PROTECTED] P.S. Do we all really hang around here on the web on christmas evening ? ;-) ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Visual Basic and video
Jack, When you say "call" a VB program, can you be more specific? It can launch one, read any file outputs that it may create, and with the Externals Collection DLL, you can directly communicate with it via DDE. Is there something else you'd like to do? Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "Braintree Athletics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Visual Basic and video > I'm pretty comfortable using Applesxripts in Metacard. How easy is it to > call Visual Basic program in Metacard? I need to build specific Metacard > apps that will allow the user to import digital/analog video from cameras. > That is presently not possible in Metacard. I can use iMovie and BTV on > MacOs - but I'm thinking I'm going to need to create my own on the windows > side. Any ideas? > > Thanks in advance! > > Jack Rarick > Braintree Athletic Systems > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Quintessential XCMDs
I noticed that too, Jacque... Bravo, indeed! Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ - Original Message - From: "J. Landman Gay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "metacard list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: Quintessential XCMDs > I thought this was interesting: Today on the HyperCard mailing list a > member posted a list of 66 XCMDs/XFCNs that he considered > "quintessential" -- externals that a serious developer simply could not > do without. I was familiar with almost all of them, having used most of > them myself. Scanning the list, I found only seven that MetaCard could > not do natively, and one of those seven I left in the list because I > wasn't sure exactly what its purpose was. > > Bravo for MetaCard. > > -- > Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com > > ___ > metacard mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard > ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Visual Basic and video
I'm pretty comfortable using Applesxripts in Metacard. How easy is it to call Visual Basic program in Metacard? I need to build specific Metacard apps that will allow the user to import digital/analog video from cameras. That is presently not possible in Metacard. I can use iMovie and BTV on MacOs - but I'm thinking I'm going to need to create my own on the windows side. Any ideas? Thanks in advance! Jack Rarick Braintree Athletic Systems ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
What specific steps would be needed to use a Verisign certification for RunRev stacks? $300 for a 1 year subscription or $700 for 2 years plus all the personal information about you and your family. That's all. Regards, Andu Novac From the latest newsletter from pair.com pair Networks SSL certificates will be offered at these great rates: $49 for one year $89 for two years $125 for three years atb sims -- --- http://EZPZapps.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software - Internet Development - Consulting ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
Here's a less microsoftian solution for a "sane" MC helper application for browsers: make a stack which opens off screen or invisible with something like... on startup answer "Ready to format your hard drive??"\ with "OK" and "Cancel" if it is "Cancel" then quit exit startup Move the answer dialog into the stack, save and make it a standalone. Use this standalone as the helper application instead of MC engine and send me $300 every year. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
[please pardon the OT hummor] andu wrote: >> What specific steps would be needed to use a Verisign certification for >> RunRev stacks? > > $300 for a 1 year subscription or $700 for 2 years plus all the personal > information about you and your family. That's all. > >> >> And since Dr. Kissinger won't reveal his client list, how do we know >> Verisign isn't on it? ;) > > Ok, then we go with OJ, he's also certified "not guilty", as a bonus. While he was found not guilty of killing his wife, if the second trial he was found financially liable for her death. So as long as we can find people both not guilty yet financially liable, maybe we can get O.J. to pay our $300. :) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
--On Tuesday, December 24, 2002 08:11:48 -0800 Richard Gaskin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Chipp Walters wrote: The 3rd party 'certification' I was referring to is through Verisign Certificates (not Microsoft), the *same* guys who do the SSL server IDs. Over 90% of SSL (Secure Socket Layer) websites use Verisign, so apparently they are a trustworthy source. What specific steps would be needed to use a Verisign certification for RunRev stacks? $300 for a 1 year subscription or $700 for 2 years plus all the personal information about you and your family. That's all. And since Dr. Kissinger won't reveal his client list, how do we know Verisign isn't on it? ;) Ok, then we go with OJ, he's also certified "not guilty", as a bonus. -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Quintessential XCMDs
I thought this was interesting: Today on the HyperCard mailing list a member posted a list of 66 XCMDs/XFCNs that he considered "quintessential" -- externals that a serious developer simply could not do without. I was familiar with almost all of them, having used most of them myself. Scanning the list, I found only seven that MetaCard could not do natively, and one of those seven I left in the list because I wasn't sure exactly what its purpose was. Bravo for MetaCard. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | [EMAIL PROTECTED] HyperActive Software | http://www.hyperactivesw.com ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
Chipp Walters wrote: > The 3rd party 'certification' I was referring to is through Verisign > Certificates (not Microsoft), the *same* guys who do the SSL server IDs. > Over 90% of SSL (Secure Socket Layer) websites use Verisign, so apparently > they are a trustworthy source. What specific steps would be needed to use a Verisign certification for RunRev stacks? And since Dr. Kissinger won't reveal his client list, how do we know Verisign isn't on it? ;) -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Developer of WebMerge 2.1: Publish any database on any site ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 AIM: FourthWorldInc ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Web-Dedicated Metacard
Andu, Chipp says: > > b) be certified as 'safe' by a reputable 3rd party (the Microsoft > > approach). Andu replies: > This is what tripped me in your previous message too, and this is what I > was referring to as the illusion of security being worse then no security > at all. The 3rd party 'certification' I was referring to is through Verisign Certificates (not Microsoft), the *same* guys who do the SSL server IDs. Over 90% of SSL (Secure Socket Layer) websites use Verisign, so apparently they are a trustworthy source. Remember the purpose of security certificates is merely to provide a means whereby you can trust entities (companies and people) on the internet. A security certificate does not in any way imply a web site is "good", will protect your privacy or will deliver your products. Of course there are ways to 'spoof' a certificate, but in any case, the user will still get a popup window asking if they want to install the ActiveX control, unlike something that autoruns on page load. Certainly no technique is perfect. -Chipp ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Web-Dedicated Metacard
--On Monday, December 23, 2002 18:59:14 -1000 Sannyasin Sivakatirswami <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What's being proposed here is a responsible security concern, IMHO. Ken, I am embarrassingly naive about these issues. when you say "responsible security concern" What do you mean? How is this any different security wise, than distribution of the Supercard Player (which we knew and loved) of the past? If my SC project wanted to read and write file and "do stuff" with that player, nothing was there to stop it. Is it just the auto boot from a web page we are concerned about? There is no difference. Sivakatirswami ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Web-Dedicated Metacard
--On Tuesday, December 24, 2002 00:27:41 -0600 Chipp Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: b) be certified as 'safe' by a reputable 3rd party (the Microsoft approach). My thinking on the subject is that a 3rd party could build a player and infrastructure for registering (certifying) stacks. Then the player would check in with the 3rd party to verify the signature of the certification. At the minimum, all unsigned stacks would be pre-empted by a warning notice such as: "This program is unsigned and could possibly damage your computer!" This is what tripped me in your previous message too, and this is what I was referring to as the illusion of security being worse then no security at all. I can see dr Kissinger (or OJ) running such an enterprise. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
