Sound screws up in Linux

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
Having spent some time on the first cycle of my EFL system
development - making the stacks using my licensed version
of Dreamcard - I popped them onto my new PC (PIII, 600
MHz, 128 MB RAM - Kubuntu 5.10) - A BIG THANK YOU TO NOVELL
for FREE RR 2.2.1 - and when I clicked on the button Brown
Cow instead of hearing my growly voice saying Brown Cow
(No rocket science round here - just English for 6 year-old
Bulgarians) I heard something very like a cat being run
over by a truck . . .

Hard science: recorded the sound on a Mac using the Sound
Studio program that came bundled with the 10.2 install -
Mono, 44.000, AIFF

I suspect this is not the right format for Linux, but can
find nothing in either RR or MC documentation.

More rests on this than my poxy little language school as
the resulting programs (standalones) for Linux will be
uploaded to Ubuntu for distribution in Africa (Mind you, I
can't help feeling sorry for the poor Africans having to
put up with my Brown Cows).

I hope, hope, hope that I can get sound to behave in Linux
without resort to the superannuated and crappy xanim. And,
Mike Talluto, as my name is mud in RR circles (!!!) I
cannot get into Bugzilla, etc. and say my piece about movie
files and so forth with RR/MC in Linux.

I suppose the bottom line is that I shall have to have a
very dirty weekend embedding every possible sound
configuration I can think of in a stack on the Mac and them
messing around with it on the Kubuntu PC - although a
little voice tells me that this  is rather inefficient.

I would be extremely grateful for any help in this area.

sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Sound on Linux and stupid Richmond

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
WELL ? ? ?

Is it stupid Richmond or under-documented RR ?

Dunno - leave the question open.

Anyway, Happy Campers - I, accidently discovered that RR
2.2.1 on Linux can only cope with WAV files . . .

And, How did I find this out?

By reading a page on the RunRev site that pointed out that
AU and AIFF support for Linux had been added in RR 2.5

NOW . . . wouldn't it be lovely if one could find these
things out in a simple and painless way . . .

For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL LINUX RR
Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) KNOW NOW that
the only sound format that works is WAV.

Sincerely, Richmond Mathewson
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Oh Dear, Linux and Sound - A-A-A-A-GAIN

2005-11-05 Thread Mathewson
More egg-salad with the WAV files.

1. Is the problem that the WAV files are embedded?

1a. This seems unlikely as Kubuntu makes a hash of the same
WAV files when played externally.

2. Whither QUICKTIME 4 LINUX and will this DO THE TRICK ?

3. Under-Documentation.

4. xanim - no, surely not?

Richmond

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RE: Order of execution

2005-11-05 Thread Shari

The message watcher says anything?
If you put and lock screen before your go, does it still go slow?
if you lock messages, it could go faster but there might not be
a preopencard handler...
Is the revproperty palette open?
stacks opened from across a network?
plugins?


No revProperty palette (using an older version of MC) and no plugins.

I tried locking messages and it got a little hairy  (there are many 
preOpen... handlers that run in this program).  Initially the stack 
never appeared (being invisible).  When I made it permanently 
visible, as far as I could tell it still took 11+ seconds for the 
stack to appear after the go command.


So perhaps it is an issue as Jeanne said of reading the stack file 
from disk into memory.  Is there a way to speed that process up, 
short of deleting everything that makes the stack desireable?


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Stack loading slowly

2005-11-05 Thread Shari
I've verified that the stacks with the images and sounds are loaded 
before the go stack command is sent.  There is no major delay for 
those stacks to load.   So it cannot be a sound/image thing.


Then the very small stack (the splash screen) loads, gives its 
message, then issues the go stack command to the primary stack (not 
a mainstack, a substack).


The primary stack has a lot of objects, mostly buttons, which do not 
individually have an alwaysBuffer property.  Setting the alwaysBuffer 
of the stack itself to TRUE and FALSE made no difference in the time 
it took for the preOpenStack handler to be triggered after the go 
stack command was issued.


Locking messages did not appear to make a difference, though that 
command could not be used in the final product as it needs the 
preOpenStack and other pre- and open- commands to occur.


Locking screen did not appear to make a difference, either.

In other words, I've ruled several things out, but still have no 
solution to make this thing load faster.


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Thank you to Metacard and RunRev...

2005-11-05 Thread Shari

No questions, no answers, just a happy thought that I love Metacard!

I want to take a moment to say Thank You to Scott, for creating 
Metacard, and to RunRev, who has allowed Metacard to grow forth and 
flourish, and keep on being.


I truly love this language and the doors that it opens.  It allows me 
to pursue a dream that I so enjoy.


As a person who came into the computer world one generation too 
early, before computers became a mainstay, where manual typewriters 
still existed in the classroom and electric typewriters were all the 
rage... I say THANK YOU!


As a person who did not experience computers in any capacity until my 
late-thirties was it?  Dunno, just a guess...


As a person who, thanks to Hypercard, discovered the world of 
programming, never having studied an official programming language... 
never having even used a computer but almost immediately upon 
purchasing my first Macintosh, discovered Hypercard and created a 
program with it... albeit a simple program but one that opened the 
doors of creativity...


That Metacard allows me to create that which I can imagine... I say THANK YOU!

Shari


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Re: Thank you to Metacard and RunRev...

2005-11-05 Thread Pierre Sahores
Thank you to you too, Shari to remind us how lucky we are with those great xtalk's and i follow you in thinking all our so kind and intelligent peoples who fighted so hard over the years to give us the opportunity to switch from Hypercard to Supercard, fom Metacard to Revolution. From the Xerox Park Lab's guys to the RunRev Team, this all is just a dream human and technical success story !!!In beetwin many others, thanks to Bill Atkinson, Kevin Calhoun,..., Frederic Rinadi the XCmd man, Dr Scott Raney the sailor, Jeanne and Jacqueline, to all our so sweet RunRev Teamers, to our great dev lists helpfull coallegues and friends =-)A nice day to all of us,Kind Regards,PierreLe 5 nov. 05 à 17:19, Shari a écrit :No questions, no answers, just a happy thought that I love Metacard!I want to take a moment to say Thank You to Scott, for creating Metacard, and to RunRev, who has allowed Metacard to grow forth and flourish, and keep on being.I truly love this language and the doors that it opens.  It allows me to pursue a dream that I so enjoy.As a person who came into the computer world one generation too early, before computers became a mainstay, where manual typewriters still existed in the classroom and electric typewriters were all the rage... I say THANK YOU!As a person who did not experience computers in any capacity until my late-thirties was it?  Dunno, just a guess...As a person who, thanks to Hypercard, discovered the world of programming, never having studied an official programming language... never having even used a computer but almost immediately upon purchasing my first Macintosh, discovered Hypercard and created a program with it... albeit a simple program but one that opened the doors of creativity...That Metacard allows me to create that which I can imagine... I say THANK YOU!Shari-- Mac and Windows shareware gameshttp://www.gypsyware.com___metacard mailing listmetacard@lists.runrev.comhttp://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard  -- Bien cordialement, Pierre Sahores100, rue de ParisF - 77140 Nemours[EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]GSM:   +33 6 03 95 77 70Pro:      +33 1 64 45 05 33Fax:      +33 1 64 45 05 33http://www.sahores-conseil.com/WEB/VoD/ACID-DB services over IP"Mutualiser les deltas de productivité" ___
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Re: Thank you to Metacard and RunRev...

2005-11-05 Thread Ray Horsley
And I second all that, Shari!  I came into this very much the same way 
you did, i.e. through HyperCard originally.  I hope Scott get this 
somehow.


Ray Horsley
Developer, LinkIt! Software
On Nov 5, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Shari wrote:


No questions, no answers, just a happy thought that I love Metacard!

I want to take a moment to say Thank You to Scott, for creating 
Metacard, and to RunRev, who has allowed Metacard to grow forth and 
flourish, and keep on being.


I truly love this language and the doors that it opens.  It allows me 
to pursue a dream that I so enjoy.


As a person who came into the computer world one generation too early, 
before computers became a mainstay, where manual typewriters still 
existed in the classroom and electric typewriters were all the rage... 
I say THANK YOU!


As a person who did not experience computers in any capacity until my 
late-thirties was it?  Dunno, just a guess...


As a person who, thanks to Hypercard, discovered the world of 
programming, never having studied an official programming language... 
never having even used a computer but almost immediately upon 
purchasing my first Macintosh, discovered Hypercard and created a 
program with it... albeit a simple program but one that opened the 
doors of creativity...


That Metacard allows me to create that which I can imagine... I say 
THANK YOU!


Shari


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Implementing rsync protocol and algorithms with RR apps

2005-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
Hi all,

Have anyone given a try to implement 
rsync protocols and algorithms using 
only RR clients applications?

http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/
http://samba.anu.edu.au/rsync/tech_report/
http://olstrans.sourceforge.net/release/OLS2000-rsync/OLS2000-rsync.html

rsync allows to download only the parts
that had changed in a stack, instead of
the whole file.

It's composed of a server and a client.

The client sends the server a single string
of information about the local file.

This string is a series of digests of 
chunks of 1k of the local file.

When server receives this string, it
compares these digest with chunks of 1k
of the file in the server and then just
send back the parts that the client needs
to recreate the file from the server, in
the client's side.

Notice, it would be a custom solution
using md5Digest, not md4Digest as rsync uses.

Thanks in advance!

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Subject: Thank you to Metacard and RunRev...

2005-11-05 Thread FlexibleLearning



Shari... Please stop reading my own confidential CV, either that or turn 
off the telepathy property.

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Re: Sound on Linux and stupid Richmond

2005-11-05 Thread Alejandro Tejada
on Sat, 05 Nov 2005 05:43:55 -0500
Richmond Mathewson wrote:

 For those of you working with the FREE NOVELL 
 LINUX RR Distro (for which I am extremely grateful) 
 KNOW NOW that the only sound format that 
 works is WAV.

Richmond, i noticed that you imply that
NOVELL gives away SUSE LINUX with a licenced 
version of RunRev v 2.2.1  :-O

Which SUSE version are you using that have
RunRev bundled for free?
Is it the Personal, Professional or free
version of SUSE?
Is it the DVD or CD version? :-O

http://www.runrev.com/section/press/36.php

Thanks in advance.

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Custom file extensions

2005-11-05 Thread Shari
Okay, I did this before and now I can't seem to do it again.  I 
forgot what I did (sheepish grin).


In Blackjack Gold, I used a custom file extension for the associated 
stacks of .bjg


For a new program, I'd like to use a custom file extension as I did 
before, but it doesn't seem to be working.


I change a stack's filename to interactive.fgx

In another stack, the openStack handler sets the global variable 
gFavorite to the full path to stack interactive.fgx


But when a handler runs that refers to stack gFavorite, it fails.  It 
says it cannot find the stack interactive.mc


I've verified that gFavorite specifies the right filepath, including 
the new extension.  So why is Metacard looking for .mc?


I can open interactive.fgx via the File Menu.

Then if I save it via the File Menu, it says that it's saving stack 
interactive.fgx.mc, but there is no evidence it added .mc to the 
filename.


I have no idea how I did it before.  I'm using OSX.

Shari




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