RE: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:56:03 -0700, "Yates, Glen" wrote:

> 
> Sounds like your machine is most definitely infected
> with a virus, and not
> just any virus, but that most virulent and heinous of
> virii - the windows
> virus. The only cure for this is to install linux or
> better yet, freeBSD.
> 
> -Glen

Believe me if I weren't trapped in my idiotica
sysadmins sheep universe I would!!!

I've already recommended that we drop windows for
budgetary reasons. 

Windows=Expensive+Crash

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RE: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread Yates, Glen
Sounds like your machine is most definitely infected with a virus, and not
just any virus, but that most virulent and heinous of virii - the windows
virus. The only cure for this is to install linux or better yet, freeBSD.

-Glen

> (P.S. my machine has virus protection, and I never use
> outlook or address books so I doubt its a virus -
> otherwise other proggies would get bitten, and they
> don't).
 
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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/19/03 12:01 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

UGH. I hate windows drivers problems. 
*Sigh. 
This really should not be the cause - windows _claims
to have all video drivers properly installed (demonic
snicker)... thanks for the tip. 

Mind you MC 2.2 under basilisk functions fine on this
machine - so if that changes your advice at all please
let me know!
It doesn't really. The standard response to "it doesn't work right here" 
is to update the drivers, particularly on Windows machines. Print 
drivers, video drivers, all are vulnerable. So that's still my advice. 
Sorry. ;) Of course, I'm not guaranteeing that it will actually solve 
the problem, only that it's what I'd try next given the symptoms.

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle

> Sounds like a video driver problem. If basilisk allows
> you to update the 
> emulated video driver, that what you should do.
> 

UGH. I hate windows drivers problems. 
*Sigh. 
This really should not be the cause - windows _claims
to have all video drivers properly installed (demonic
snicker)... thanks for the tip. 

Mind you MC 2.2 under basilisk functions fine on this
machine - so if that changes your advice at all please
let me know!

Thanks

Eric

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle

> Last I heard, MC was not supposed to support 4 bit
> color.  It would run, but
> according to Scott Raney, the company doesn't
> officially support this color
> depth.
> 
> Strange...
> 
> Regards,

Um, well, yeah it runs... ...sort of. Icon's and other
graphics don't show up. But boy do those links sure go!

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread Scott Rossi
Recently, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Sadly none of these is the source of the error. I've
> literally reinstalled a virgin copy of MC 2.5,
> deinstalled all earlier copies of MC and -still- had it
> crash. 
> 
> Oddly the help stacks are the best instance of causing
> the crash. The hyperlinks in the "See also" never
> function and cause the crash. I'm sure this must be an
> error on my machine - but where. The reason I think its
> my machine is that when I set my color depth to a
> joyous 4 bits (or was it 4 colors? Anyway, the lowest
> setting possible) the stacks function fine (though
> obviously with no color worth speaking of).

Last I heard, MC was not supposed to support 4 bit color.  It would run, but
according to Scott Raney, the company doesn't officially support this color
depth.

Strange...

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread J. Landman Gay
On 6/19/03 10:51 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Oddly the help stacks are the best instance of causing
the crash. The hyperlinks in the "See also" never
function and cause the crash. I'm sure this must be an
error on my machine - but where. The reason I think its
my machine is that when I set my color depth to a
joyous 4 bits (or was it 4 colors? Anyway, the lowest
setting possible) the stacks function fine (though
obviously with no color worth speaking of).
Sounds like a video driver problem. If basilisk allows you to update the 
emulated video driver, that what you should do.

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread eric . allen . engle
Sadly none of these is the source of the error. I've
literally reinstalled a virgin copy of MC 2.5,
deinstalled all earlier copies of MC and -still- had it
crash. 

Oddly the help stacks are the best instance of causing
the crash. The hyperlinks in the "See also" never
function and cause the crash. I'm sure this must be an
error on my machine - but where. The reason I think its
my machine is that when I set my color depth to a
joyous 4 bits (or was it 4 colors? Anyway, the lowest
setting possible) the stacks function fine (though
obviously with no color worth speaking of).

I've tried cleaning my registry, disabling all
autostart proggies, including antivirus, and running
offline. I'm sort of at wits end here, though I can
work around using basilisk and 2.2. This is actually
why I didn't beta RR - I thought it was just an RR
problem at first because for whatever reason RR crashes
more frequently on my idiosyncratic machine.

SO my question is, whatever could be the source of this
idiosyncracy? Memory leaks? And what possible cures are
there?

(P.S. my machine has virus protection, and I never use
outlook or address books so I doubt its a virus -
otherwise other proggies would get bitten, and they
don't).

>>Avoid HTML text with images in fields  - superbe
feature, definite party crasher!
(2.4>)

Yes, my experience too, though YMMV?
In any event: Not the culprit.

>ImagesData manipulations can also wreak havoc... Will
probably corrupt your stack too!
(Any version which supports it)

Not the culprit.


>Making 2 fields synchronize each other's VScroll will
kill MC with lots of flashes while your flds scroll. 
(Any version)

Not the culprit.

>Last but not least of my experience in crashing MC is
the infinite loop trick. It's impossible to get out of
it
UNLESS you put in some statements to make MC work and
thus look at the keyboard...
(any version - you wanted execution speed?)

Doesn't MC implement COMMAND PERIOD to stop scripts
like a speeding bullet?
Anyway, I do not think this is the culprit. The thing
hangs on a clean install of MC 2.4 and 2.5 whenever I
try to use the MetaCard reference stack and "see also".

Sorry to bug people this way, but I really am at wits
end and would do my best to return the favor of advice.

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RE: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread Ken Ray
> Making 2 fields synchronize each other's 
> VScroll will kill MC with lots of flashes 
> while your flds scroll. 
> (Any version) 

Xavier... I'm not getting this; my sync between two fields is very
smooth (at least on Windows - I haven't tried on Mac). I made two
scrolling fields with data and set the script of the first one to:

on scrollBarDrag
  set the vScroll of field 2 to the vScroll of me
end scrollBarDrag

And they seem to scroll very smoothly in tandem without flashing. (MC
v2.5)

Can you confirm or clarify why you're getting this reaction?

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread Richard Gaskin

> Avoid HTML text with images in fields  - superbe feature, definite party
> crasher!
> (2.4>)
> ImagesData manipulations can also wreak havoc... Will probably corrupt
> your stack too!
> (Any version which supports it)

I've used both without error.

Recipes?

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Re: memory leaks?

2003-06-19 Thread xbury . cs

Eric,

Avoid HTML text with images in fields  - superbe feature, definite party crasher!
(2.4>)
ImagesData manipulations can also wreak havoc... Will probably corrupt your stack too!
(Any version which supports it)

Making 2 fields synchronize each other's VScroll will kill MC with lots of flashes while your flds scroll. 
(Any version)

Last but not least of my experience in crashing MC is the infinite loop trick. It's impossible to get out of it
UNLESS you put in some statements to make MC work and thus look at the keyboard...
(any version - you wanted execution speed?)

Hope that helps corner the bad bug...
-=-
Xavier Bury
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ext 6465






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I have an odd problem: When I run metacard 2.2 under
basilisk it runs perfectly fine.

On the other hand, when I try to run metacard 2.4, 2.5
or revolution 1.1.1 under windows it hangs. Often.

I have no idea what could be causing this behavior. I'm
sure you don't either since you dont have my registry
or nay of my .ini or .dll files.

Still I'm hoping someone can give me a clue as to what
might be causing this problem. My machine has 128mb
memory, plenty of space on the hard drive. I would
think it a memory problem (seems to be the case) but
what could provoke it and why does it not affect MC
under basilisk?

ANY advice appreciated.

Thanks - if I can return a favor just ask.

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