RE: New question about using Valentina
> Can Valentina XCMD (aka "VXCMD") operate with [any] standard > mySQL server ? > > Or will it only work with Valentina's servers (aka "VSERVER") ? Valentina is its own database engine/server. It isnt a client for mySQL Server. There is an additional product called Valentina ODBC which adds an ODBC driver to your apps, so its possible to use ODBC to interactively import data into Valentina. This is very useful, for example, if you want to import data from Excel or some other ODBC compliant application into your application. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: New question about using Valentina
> Can Valentina XCMD (aka "VXCMD") operate with [any] standard mySQL server ? > > Or will it only work with Valentina's servers (aka "VSERVER") ? Only with Valentina's server products. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
New question about using Valentina
Hello y'all, Can Valentina XCMD (aka "VXCMD") operate with [any] standard mySQL server ? Or will it only work with Valentina's servers (aka "VSERVER") ? Thanks, :) Alain ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
RE: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
> NOTE, however, that (a) we were using Valentina 1.x, not 2.x > (which is supposed to be more stable/flexible/etc.), (b) we > were not having any problems with our smaller customers (i.e. > 2-20 concurrent users) but only had problems with the larger > ones (50-150 concurrent users), and (c) Ruslan was INCREDIBLY > responsible to us and was working with us daily, giving us > custom builds, etc., so the support was excellent. > > I'm not sure any of the above applies to you, but just > thought I'd bring it up. Valentina 1.x was...a long time ago. I believe that's when it was still Valentina XCMD and not Valentina for Revolution. The best thing to do is just to download and give it a try. Best regards, Lynn Fredricks President Paradigma Software http://www.paradigmasoft.com Valentina SQL Server: The Ultra-fast, Royalty Free Database Server ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
On 22/12/08 at 15:31 -0600 Ken Ray apparently wrote: Actually, I'm not completely in the "yay-Valentina!" camp. ;-) As Ken says, support is a big forte of Valentina. On the other hand, the documentation has been always somewhat deficient. At least, there is now a decent set of examples for V4REV. Each version of Valentina has its own quirks, just like Revolution. The development process is not branched, so one has to keep upgrading to get bug fixes, just like Revolution again. Overall, IMHO, I think it beats pants off of competition for desktop applications, particularly in terms of performance, although it became somewhat bulky as software (good that this is mostly not so important nowadays). I haven't used the server version yet, so no opinion there, but I haven't heard anything really negative, either. Robert ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
> As it has been for y'all, I surmise, because respondents in this thread have > been unanimously favorable to Valentina. No one reported any regret. Not > so-far, anyways. I'd like to hear from other Valentina users too, or would-be > users that were discouraged.. or whomever has something relevant to say about > Valentina. Good or bad are equally welcome. :) Actually, I'm not completely in the "yay-Valentina!" camp. ;-) I was working with a client on an application that was using Valentina as the DB, and it did not scale very well... we had a situation where my client's major customer couldn't get more than a few hours out of Val without it crashing. We worked with Ruslan almost daily for over a month and couldn't figure out what the issue was. We ended up switching to MySQL and have been happy as clams ever since. NOTE, however, that (a) we were using Valentina 1.x, not 2.x (which is supposed to be more stable/flexible/etc.), (b) we were not having any problems with our smaller customers (i.e. 2-20 concurrent users) but only had problems with the larger ones (50-150 concurrent users), and (c) Ruslan was INCREDIBLY responsible to us and was working with us daily, giving us custom builds, etc., so the support was excellent. I'm not sure any of the above applies to you, but just thought I'd bring it up. :-) Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
Hi Ken andf y'all, > Alain, one caveat on using Valentina > is whether the *current* Valentina will > work with MC 2.5; you may need to find > acquire an older version for it to work. > You should contact Ruslan Zasukhin at > Paradigmasoft to find out for sure. Thanks for the tip. I already have, and Ruslan has already replied. He has graciously provided me with a URL so that I can download a DEMO version of whichever version suits MetaCard 2.5. Which I figure is the first one in a l-o-n-g list of versions, e.g. version 1.11 This demo version will only work about "10 minutes at a time", but one of the respondents in this thread assured me that it was in-fact longer than 10 minutes AND that it would be sufficient to evaluate whether Valentina is for me. As it has been for y'all, I surmise, because respondents in this thread have been unanimously favorable to Valentina. No one reported any regret. Not so-far, anyways. I'd like to hear from other Valentina users too, or would-be users that were discouraged.. or whomever has something relevant to say about Valentina. Good or bad are equally welcome. :) I'm being so-cautious because I have dedicated hundreds of hours, testing various databases (DBMSs), over the years, and NONE of them did the trick for me, including XCMDs for HyperCard. This time, I want to KNOW for SURE that I'll be headed in the right direction. :) Thanks y'all for the heads-up, :) Alain ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
> Yes. I started using Valentina with HyperCard and then switched to > MetaCard. Revolution came along but I continue with MetaCard and > Valentina. Which version of Valentina is optimal for your MetaCard is > to be checked. I presume that by MetaCard 2.5 you mean Rev engine 2.5 > with MC IDE. Actually, Robert, at that time Runtime Revolution hadn't quite acquired the engine yet (they did so in July of 2003)... so it truly was "MetaCard 2.5" (which was released in April of 2003, IIRC). Alain, one caveat on using Valentina is whether the *current* Valentina will work with MC 2.5; you may need to find/acquire an older version for it to work. You should contact Ruslan Zasukhin at Paradigmasoft (sunshine AT public.kherson.ua) to find out for sure. Ken Ray Sons of Thunder Software, Inc. Email: k...@sonsothunder.com Web Site: http://www.sonsothunder.com/ ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
On 19/12/08 at 12:51 -0800 Alain Farmer apparently wrote: Hello y'all, Is it possible to use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ? Or does it necessarily *require* Runtime Revolution ? N.B.: *not* even 2.6 .. it *has* to be for 2.5 .. because version 2.5 is what I got *and* I don't want to upgrade unless it's strictly necessary. Thanks y'all, Alain Yes. I started using Valentina with HyperCard and then switched to MetaCard. Revolution came along but I continue with MetaCard and Valentina. Which version of Valentina is optimal for your MetaCard is to be checked. I presume that by MetaCard 2.5 you mean Rev engine 2.5 with MC IDE. Robert ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ?
Hello y'all, Is it possible to use Valentina with MetaCard 2.5 ? Or does it necessarily *require* Runtime Revolution ? N.B.: *not* even 2.6 .. it *has* to be for 2.5 .. because version 2.5 is what I got *and* I don't want to upgrade unless it's strictly necessary. Thanks y'all, Alain ___ metacard mailing list metacard@lists.runrev.com http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina and MC/Rev CGI (was :Metacard support)
Robert, > > Yes, I have been running a MC-based CGI for a couple years now. But > it is a different story depending on the OS. OK, but I've been using MC/Rev-based cgi for almost 2 years as well... My question actually focused on MC/Rev-based cgi with Valentina database... > And keep in mind that > MC/Rev-based cgi may not be suitable for heavy duty usage Could you please comment this point ? Thanks, JB ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina and MC/Rev CGI (was :Metacard support)
Hi list, > Well, I know of another person that provides great support in the same > spirit: Ruslan Zasukhin of Paradigma Software, the main developer of > Valentina Database family. Coincidently MC/Rev and Valentina are a > great match. Ruslan participates very actively in his product support > list, his replies are often within short time of the question showing > there, and even helps to some degree with user issues, like help with > designing databases. He is also reknown for acting quickly on the > reported bugs and listening to user input in product development. Speaking of Valentina... Does anyone here have any experience using MC/Rev as CGI in connection with Valentina as server database ? I thought of contacting Ruslan for best advices, but would like to hear some users testimonials first... Thanks, JB Yes, I have been running a MC-based CGI for a couple years now. But it is a different story depending on the OS. And keep in mind that MC/Rev-based cgi may not be suitable for heavy duty usage (but then you can just switch to a different environment retaining your database). Robert Brenstein ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina and MC/Rev CGI (was :Metacard support)
Hi list, > > Well, I know of another person that provides great support in the same > > spirit: Ruslan Zasukhin of Paradigma Software, the main developer of > > Valentina Database family. Coincidently MC/Rev and Valentina are a > > great match. Ruslan participates very actively in his product support > > list, his replies are often within short time of the question showing > > there, and even helps to some degree with user issues, like help with > > designing databases. He is also reknown for acting quickly on the > > reported bugs and listening to user input in product development. > Speaking of Valentina... Does anyone here have any experience using MC/Rev as CGI in connection with Valentina as server database ? I thought of contacting Ruslan for best advices, but would like to hear some users testimonials first... Thanks, JB ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
ANN] Valentina Server 2.0 a42, clients: C++, RB, Director, VB, XCMD uploaded
Valentina Server 2.0a42 and Valentina 2.0a42 clients are now available for download. Most of the API has been implemented, except for Import/Export to ASCII (which will be enabled when we have moved to the new kernel). This version includes support for client/server handling of picture data, cross platform: win <-> mac win <-> win mac <-> mac mac <-> win We invite you to try out the Valentina clients (Director, REALbasic, XCMD, VisualBasic, C++) and our new Valentina Server software! We have a very successful international implementation with client connections from Germany connecting to our test server in our home office. Valentina Studio Administrator (a cross-platform desktop tool) is also in alpha testing. It will let you work with db files visually without programming. It allows work with both local and remote db files located under a Valentina Server. If you are interested in the testing of Vstudio please contact us. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list go to: http://lists.macserve.net/mailman/listinfo/valentina - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
[ANN] Valentina 1.9.7b1 release
Hi All, Today we make the first maintain release 1.9.7 b1. This release introduces bunch of new features in the C++ and C SDK, Which we have use for development of Valentina PHP module and Valentina JDBC driver. Below you will find full list of new features, changes and fixed bugs. Note the most important things: -- Valentina for PHP module. -- Valentina for Director carbonized. -- Valentina JDBC driver announce. Version 1.9.7b1// Dec 16, 2002 *** NEW * - [VPHP] Introduced VPHP module for OS X and Windows. - [V4MD] V4MD is Carbonized, so it works with Director MX and Projector on OS X. - [C++ SDK] VDK_Database class now have functions CreateDataBase( char* path ); OpenDataBase( char* path ); that works on all platforms, including MacOS classic. - [C++ SDK] VDK_Database class now have function VDK_Database::GetDataBaseByPath( const char* inFullPath ); which can be used as well as GetDatabase( FBL_String inName ); to check if for required database already exists VDK_Database object. On success returns pointer to this object. - [C++ SDK] Class VDK_Cursor now have functions - [C SDK]GetEOF() and GetBOF() which provide OTHER logic of record navigation than NextRecord(), PrevRecord(). We was need them for VPHP module. - [C++ SDK] Now functions const FBL_String& VDK_Database::GetName() const FBL_String& VDK_Database::GetFullPath() work on all platforms in the same way. GetName() returns the name of db file. GetFullPath() returns the full path in the format of corresponded platform. - [KERNEL] Now Valentina can accept UNIX paths on OS X. - [C SDK]Function GetErrrorString() now have parameter errCode. *** FIXED BUGS *** - [KERNEL] Crash if method use field that has name with underscores. - [KERNEL] Orphaned segments if do DeleteBLOBValue() and UpdateRecord() for a BLOB that is not indexed. - [KERNEL][SQL] UPDATE ...WHERE uniqueFld = value, did not work. - [V4MD] Crash on finish of script if forget to do db = VOID - [V4MD] AddRecord() now returns FALSE in case of error. - [V4RB][WIN]Property HOUR in Time field was broken. Probably CW 8 bug. - [VAPP][AS] Command 'recordsAsString' now do not change the position of cursor. - [VXCMD]Command 'SetEncryption' now is recognized. - [VXCMD]Classic version was broken after move to CodeWarrior 8. - [C SDK]Now works error strings. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina xcmd
on 12/5/02 11:08 PM, Rodney Tamblyn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> What is Valentina XCMD ? Where you have read about this. > > OK, perhaps the name confuses me here. The product is called "vxcmd" > which I assumed stands for "valentina xcmd". Now from my > HyperCard/Supercard programming days, I took this to imply that there > was an xcmd (or xfcn) code resource floating around somewhere. > > Now I've examined the example stacks with ResEdit I see that in fact > there is just a code resource, not an XCMD, in the resource fork. Hi Rodney, Let me tell a little history. During last 2 years we have had "Valentina XCMD" which was able work With HyperCard, SuperCard and MetaCard and was made as xfcn. But later MetaCard developers did ask to make special version adopted to metaCard which will be able for example work with binary data and arrays of MetaCard. To be able do this I was need switch to CODE resource (as required by MC). So now we have VXCMD for HyperCard based on xfcn resource VXCMD for MetaCard based on CODE resource -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/4/02 8:44 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve >>> is also "complex". >> >> Hi MetaCard List, >> >> Just in contrast to words of Andu. > > Words of Andu compliment not criticism!! Good wine takes long time. Oh Andu, Then I am sorry. I have read your words in wrong way. :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
--On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 18:34:53 +0200 Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Words of Andu compliment not criticism!! Good wine takes long time. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. Sure, like almost everything else but I guess, if he needed a sales pitch he would've been satisfied with "user testimonials" from your web site. *> Has anyone on the list had experience using this product with Metacard? *> Would be interested in your comments, either privately or to the list. Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. Let me chime in that there are two different aspects of using valentina, each with its own level of complexity and learning curve. 1. Using valentina as a database engine in metacard -- quite easy and not much to learn 2. designing and maintaining databases, particularly when taking full advantage of relational features -- that can be easy or a can of warms depending on your background and experience. But many issues here have little to do with Valentina per se. Robert Brenstein (who is on both MC and valentina lists) ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/3/02 11:58 PM, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve > is also "complex". Hi MetaCard List, Just in contrast to words of Andu. Just only I have got this letter from Lars. :-) So it looks "complexity" and "simplicity" is very subjective, And probably depends on experience of developer. -- Forwarded Message > From: Lars Lindholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Wed, 04 Dec 2002 15:30:58 +0100 > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Valentina in a Cocoa application? > > Hi, > > I am a developer that have recently started using Valentina for a larger > project involving several applications built both in RealBasic and Director. > All the applications now use the same Valentina database. After having used > Valentina for a few weeks I'm very impressed with the simplicity and the > speed! -- End of Forwarded Message -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] ----- e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
--On Wednesday, December 04, 2002 09:51:52 +1300 Rodney Tamblyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been considering using Valentina database (http://www.paradigmasoft.com/files/vxcmd.html) for a Metacard project going to start work on shortly. Has anyone on the list had experience using this product with Metacard? Would be interested in your comments, either privately or to the list. I used it in the past and it's a fine complex product, the learning curve is also "complex". Thanks. Rodney ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard Regards, Andu Novac ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina
on 12/3/02 10:51 PM, Rodney Tamblyn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've been considering using Valentina database > (http://www.paradigmasoft.com/files/vxcmd.html) for a Metacard project > going to start work on shortly. Has anyone on the list had experience > using this product with Metacard? Would be interested in your > comments, either privately or to the list. Hi Rodney, You better ask on Valentina list. I have see on MC list here from VXCMD users only Brian Yenni and Tuviah (Revolution developer) All rest on Valentina list. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin [ I feel the need...the need for speed ] - e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Valentina
I've been considering using Valentina database (http://www.paradigmasoft.com/files/vxcmd.html) for a Metacard project going to start work on shortly. Has anyone on the list had experience using this product with Metacard? Would be interested in your comments, either privately or to the list. Thanks. Rodney ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
[ANN] Valentina 1.9.1b4
Hi All, I am glad inform you that you can download new beta of Valentina APP, V4RB and V4MD/Mac that introduce GROUP BY in SQL: SELECT count(*), count(f), sum(f), avg(f), min(f), max(f) And the same with DISTINCT: SELECT count(DISTINCT f), sum(DISTINCT f), avg(DISTINCT f) V4RB archive contain TEST project that demonstrate about 50 tests on this. Also I was able optimize SELECT DISTINCT to use new algorithm. Guys, this must be fantastic thing. Just atomic! It is based on sort algorithms of Valentina, so we can expect about 1000 times faster work of DISTINCT than e.g. In 4D or mySQL. For example on G3/233 DISTINCT for one field on table with million records will take just 6 seconds. On iMAC/350 about 3 seconds, on G4/450 less of second. * Was fixed a couple of bugs on OUTER JOIN algorithm. * So, please test this new beta and let me know if any problems. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Valentina 1.8.10b16 (VAPP, V4RB, V4MD, VXCMD, V4WS)
- [New]SqlExecute() command now has bind parameter,
where you can specify strings to be binded with
SQL query for commands INSERT and UPDATE.
You can refer to binded parameter in SQL query
using index :N.
Example:
SqlExecute( "INSERT INTO T(f1,f2,f3) VALUES('aaa',:1,:2)",
['bbb', ''])
is the same as
"INSERT INTO T(f1,f2,f3) VALUES('aaa','bbb', '')"
- [VAPP][New]SQL Execute str bind ListOfStrings
- [V4RB][New]SqlExecute( SqlQuery, [Binds() as Array] )
- [V4MD][New]SqllExecute( SqlQuery, [list] )
- [V4WS][New]SqlExecute( SqlQuery, [list] )
- [KERNEL][Bug]Commands INSERT, UPDATE now work with escaped
quotes inside of string value.
- [KERNEL][Bug]Crash on dump and load in case an ObjectPtr
do not have Target
- [KERNEL][Bug]UPDATE .. f = NULL WHERE ... now works.
- [KERNEL][Bug][X] Now on X can allocate cache >10MB
- [V4MD][Bug] Add(list) / Update(list) now accept VOID as NULL
value for a field.
--
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Valentina 1.8.10b9 all products updated
Version 1.8.10b9// Jan 4, 2002 - [KERNEL][Bug]LoadXML not correctly work with BLOB fields. - [KERNEL][Bug]Deletion and next creation of field in table corrupt database (!!!) - [KERNEL][Bug]Crash on NULL access during CREATE TABLE. - [KERNEL][Bug]Crash on NULL access during SQL dump. - [KERNEL][Bug]Encryption now works correctly when we open db from other platform. - [KERNEL][Bug]ULong field and others now can copy value from RecID and ObjectPtr fields. - [VAPP][New] Menu "Dump->Sql" - [VAPP][Bug] Crash on NULL access during Delete BaseObject. - [VXCMD][New] WORKS now on X as Carbon. - [VXCMD][Bug] Field_SetFlag() now accept TRUE and FALSE in third parameter. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina now working ?
on 12/31/01 21:28, Gus Calabrese at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gus, > Are you saying Valentina is now working with MetaCard in OS X ? YES. > Are you saying it is done, complete ? Well, there is no official release of 1.8.10. I think it will happens in nearest week. Of course this release contains many other new features. And today night I am going upload VXCMD 1.8.10b8, So you will be able load it and use. Yes, this beta should be stable. > Gus S. Calabrese > www.omegadogs.com <http://www.omegadogs.com> > www.WFTelectronics.com <http://www.WFTelectronics.com> > voice (303) 964 9670 > fax (303) 285-3482 x5333 -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Valentina now working ?
Hello RuslanAre you saying Valentina is now working with MetaCard in OS X ?Are you saying it is done, complete ?Gus S. Calabresewww.omegadogs.comwww.WFTelectronics.comvoice (303) 964 9670fax (303) 285-3482 x5333Message: 1Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2001 18:14:05 +0200Subject: Valentina now work on X with Metacard and RevolutionFrom: Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: Yennie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tuviah Snyder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Scott Raney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Hi All,Well, today Valentina XCMD Carbon have start to work with MC on X.Funny is that test project looks to work faster than on MacOS classic.Note, this work as native MC external, so now MC users on MacOS can useinstead of xfcn resource the CODE resource.-- Best regards,Ruslan Zasukhin-Paradigma.e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]web : http://www.paradigmasoft.comTo subscribe to the Valentina mail listsend a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Valentina now work on X with Metacard and Revolution
on 12/31/01 23:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ruslan, > > Will you be posting new VXCMD on Paradigma site soon, or is it not ready? If > you are just busy I can happily wait for the upload, just curious =) Hi Brian, I think in the nearest 1-3 days it will be uploaded. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Re: Valentina now work on X with Metacard and Revolution
Ruslan, Will you be posting new VXCMD on Paradigma site soon, or is it not ready? If you are just busy I can happily wait for the upload, just curious =) Regards, Brian ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
Valentina now work on X with Metacard and Revolution
Hi All, Well, today Valentina XCMD Carbon have start to work with MC on X. Funny is that test project looks to work faster than on MacOS classic. Note, this work as native MC external, so now MC users on MacOS can use instead of xfcn resource the CODE resource. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ metacard mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/metacard
1.8.10b2 of Valentina database products for MacOS.
Hi All,
You can download new beta version of Valentina database products for MacOS.
*** Keys ***
[KERNEL]- Changes in kernel of Valentina. Affect all products.
[VSDK] - C++ SDK.
[VJDK] - Valentina for Java SDK.
[VCOM] - Valentina COM/ActiveX (Visual Basic).
[V4MD] - Valentina for Director.
[V4RB] - Valentina for REALbasic.
[V4WS] - Valentina for WebSiphon.
[VXCMD] - Valentina for XCMD (and FutureBASIC).
[VAPP] - Valentina APP (GUI and AppleScript).
[New] - new feature.
[Imp] - improvement.
[Bug] - bug fixed.
/**/
Version 1.8.10b2// Nov 18, 2001
- [V4MD][New] VDatabase.Dump, VDatabase.LoadDump
- [VAPP][New] Menu XML {Dump, Import}
- [V4WS][New] valDump, valLoadDump,
valChangeStructureEncryption, valSetStructureEncryption,
valChangeDatabaseEncryption, valSetDatabaseEncryption,
valChangeBaseObjectEncryption, valSetBaseObjectEncryption,
valChangeFieldEncryption, valSetFieldEncryption
- [VXCMD][New] Database_Dump, Database_LoadDump
/**/
Version 1.8.10b1// Nov 8, 2001
- [KERNEL][New]XML Dump and parsing.
- [KERNEL][New]SQL Dump.
- [KERNEL][New]Now we can use BaseObject Methods in RDB links.
- [KERNEL][Bug]Conversion from very old format did not work in 1.8.9.
- [KERNEL][Bug]Crash if we have db file from other platform
and if String/VarChar field is indexed but NOT by words
and if you put string longer of 127 bytes
- [VSDK][New] Set of function in VDK_BaseObject class CreateXXXField()
- [VSDK][New] Class xFBL_Exception now can have error string.
- [V4MD][Bug] GetRecord() not correctly have work with Nullable fields.
- [VAPP][Imp] DefineFields dialog now is resizable.
- [VAPP][Imp][X] Polished many GUI glitches on MacOS X.
- [VAPP][Bug][X] If select VAPP in the dock was anoying dialog "New File".
- [V4RB][New] Set of function VBaseObject.CreateXXXField()
- [V4RB][New] VDatabase.Dump() and VDatabase.LoadDump()
- [V4RB][Bug] Crash if set flag Compressed via Classes.
--
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Re: Metacard Type 2 errors with Valentina VXCMD.
on 6/7/01 7:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Ruslan, All, > > I will take a look at this ASAP... what I have noticed is that my small XCMDs > for Metacard also crash, so it's not just VXCMD! I'll see what I can > discover, perhaps there are some grumblings on the Metacard list about this. Hi Brain and All, Brian, thank you very much! Well it really looks like new BETA of MC has problems with XCMD... so this is not our fault (I mean all XCMD developers :-) -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Metacard Type 2 errors with Valentina VXCMD.
Ruslan, All, I will take a look at this ASAP... what I have noticed is that my small XCMDs for Metacard also crash, so it's not just VXCMD! I'll see what I can discover, perhaps there are some grumblings on the Metacard list about this. Brian Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Metacard Type 1 and 2 errors with Valentina VXCMD.
Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > > on 6/2/01 7:45, Peter McConachie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello Ruslan, > > > > The following (bug report sent to MetaCard) is for your information. I > > suspect it is not a problem with Valentina but more likely a problem with > > MetaCard. > > > >> We have been trying to use Valentina database with new MetaCard versions. > >> > >> The Valentina XFCN is installed in resource fork of stack & communicates with > >> Valentina kernel (shared library) in same path as MetaCard application. > >> > >> Works perfectly on 2.3.2 using Valentina 1.8.8r2 and 1.8.8r5 (latest > >> version). > >> > >> The first command to XFCN is to initialize the Valentina kernel. > >> > >> On 2.4A3, 2.4B1 this simply crashes with Type 2 error. Same here except that I get error type 1. > >> > >> Could you please indicate if this type bug has been previously reported & is > >> in the program for immediate fixing > >> > > > > Could I ask that you download the latest MetaCard version & see if you can > > reproduce the error. > > Well, let's at first ask on Valentina list and Brian Yennie (he can already > have new beta of MC)... > > But at first I advice to check next point: > may be he have forget assign to new version of MC more RAM in GetInfo > dialog of Finder? Usually this mistake cause type 2 error. Did that but it didn't help. > > > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin Andu Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Metacard Type 2 errors with Valentina VXCMD.
on 6/2/01 7:45, Peter McConachie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Ruslan, > > The following (bug report sent to MetaCard) is for your information. I > suspect it is not a problem with Valentina but more likely a problem with > MetaCard. > >> We have been trying to use Valentina database with new MetaCard versions. >> >> The Valentina XFCN is installed in resource fork of stack & communicates with >> Valentina kernel (shared library) in same path as MetaCard application. >> >> Works perfectly on 2.3.2 using Valentina 1.8.8r2 and 1.8.8r5 (latest >> version). >> >> The first command to XFCN is to initialize the Valentina kernel. >> >> On 2.4A3, 2.4B1 this simply crashes with Type 2 error. >> >> Could you please indicate if this type bug has been previously reported & is >> in the program for immediate fixing >> > > Could I ask that you download the latest MetaCard version & see if you can > reproduce the error. Well, let's at first ask on Valentina list and Brian Yennie (he can already have new beta of MC)... But at first I advice to check next point: may be he have forget assign to new version of MC more RAM in GetInfo dialog of Finder? Usually this mistake cause type 2 error. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Re: thinking about Valentina
- Original Message - From: "Robert Brenstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2001 3:35 PM Subject: Fwd: Re: thinking about Valentina > I wrote earlier today: > > > > >With regards to VXCMD on Macintosh, Valentina code is PPC-only and > >the shared lib is accessed thru an xfcn. However, if I understand > >correctly, MetaCard recognizes only XFCN resources. Is Scott going > >to support xfcn's? Actually, if Scott want to really push MetaCard > >into database arena as it was stated in another post, an extended > >interface would be needed so binary data can be passed not just > >strings as with traditonal xcmds/xfcns. > > > >Robert > > I don't know whether I misinterpreted something posted on the list or > the posted info was not correct. The posted info was not correct. MC does indeed support 'xfcn' (PPC) externals. > I just checked that valentina xfcn > works just fine with MetaCard. This means that MC supports ppc > externals. > > Robert > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Fwd: Re: thinking about Valentina
I wrote earlier today: > >With regards to VXCMD on Macintosh, Valentina code is PPC-only and >the shared lib is accessed thru an xfcn. However, if I understand >correctly, MetaCard recognizes only XFCN resources. Is Scott going >to support xfcn's? Actually, if Scott want to really push MetaCard >into database arena as it was stated in another post, an extended >interface would be needed so binary data can be passed not just >strings as with traditonal xcmds/xfcns. > >Robert I don't know whether I misinterpreted something posted on the list or the posted info was not correct. I just checked that valentina xfcn works just fine with MetaCard. This means that MC supports ppc externals. Robert Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: thinking about Valentina
>on 14/5/01 07:41, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> Hi Ruslan, I'm a Metacard user, if you remember my name from the list. > >Hi Andu, > >> I have a couple of questions: 1- I'm considering building a multi platform >> product using Valentina for database; what kind of arrangement you think we >> could make if I were to distribute it *with* the product. (I know you have >> some licensing stuff on your site but I always have a hard time >>understanding >> these things;-). > >You are going to use VXCMD as I see. > >IF this is normal app (i.e. which will not compete to Valentina itself) >then you can distribute Valentina XCMD module with your app with no fees, >you can sale even million copies of your application. > >Note, on MacOS you can use AddLib (included into VXCMD archive) to put >shared lib "Valentina engine" directly into your application. > >On Windows there is no such way and you will have app + VXCMD.DLL With regards to VXCMD on Macintosh, Valentina code is PPC-only and the shared lib is accessed thru an xfcn. However, if I understand correctly, MetaCard recognizes only XFCN resources. Is Scott going to support xfcn's? Actually, if Scott want to really push MetaCard into database arena as it was stated in another post, an extended interface would be needed so binary data can be passed not just strings as with traditonal xcmds/xfcns. Robert Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: thinking about Valentina
on 14/5/01 07:41, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi Ruslan, I'm a Metacard user, if you remember my name from the list. Hi Andu, > I have a couple of questions: 1- I'm considering building a multi platform > product using Valentina for database; what kind of arrangement you think we > could make if I were to distribute it *with* the product. (I know you have > some licensing stuff on your site but I always have a hard time understanding > these things;-). You are going to use VXCMD as I see. IF this is normal app (i.e. which will not compete to Valentina itself) then you can distribute Valentina XCMD module with your app with no fees, you can sale even million copies of your application. Note, on MacOS you can use AddLib (included into VXCMD archive) to put shared lib "Valentina engine" directly into your application. On Windows there is no such way and you will have app + VXCMD.DLL > 2- A while ago you mentioned a version for Linux coming this summer; is that > still the case? only if consider end of it (in best case) but most probably later. > TIA, Andu > > Regards, Andu > ___ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina
Don't take it the wrong way, I was just having one of those days (you know, the kind of day where you try to convince a client MetaCard can query MySQL). Pure frustration on my part, we all *seem* to adore MetaCard, but try telling that to someone who only remembers pushing A grc from point a to point B in Hypercard (but thinks Macromedia is the way to go). Sure MetaCard does way more, and on more platforms, but trying to express it and follow up your comments is much harder. Then I saw the article, followed the link, saw "Hypercard" spelled out and had a brain fart. So I figure, hell if all anyone can remember is Hypercard than what better than to tell people it's alive again. I was just thinking of an alternate universe where it could happen PS: Ruslan, I apologize for any distress I may be causing you. I just can't get my head around the fact that Hypercard has been dead for so many years and people still talk about it like it's still a viable option for the future. >on 22/1/01 18:40, Simon Lord at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >Hi Simon, > >> Huge article over at MacCentral for Valentina but it does not mention >> or link to MetaCard. And it pains me to see Valentina's web site >> actually spell out "Apple's Hypercard" which is dead from Apple's >> point of view, but lump MetaCard into the word xTalk. We need to >> support Scott and MetaCard by actually spelling this stuff out for >> others and not let them guess at what xTalk is (I met an old >> HyperCard programmer at Discreet last week, he had no idea what >> MetaCard was): > >Simon, believe me we was not going offend Metacard in any way! >Just visa versa, main developer of VXCMD -- Brian Yenni is MetaCard >developer and we have made all our best to provide you great database engine >as on MAC so on Windows. > >Robert, please check if we really have miss MetaCard in some places of our >WEB pages, Okay ? > > >> http://www.maccentral.com/news/0101/22.osxproducts.shtml >> >> It just talks about Java and Realbasic, why can't MetaCard get some >> free mentions in these articles??? > >Simon, actually 1.8.7 release have had 3 major features: > -- introduces Java > -- carbon version of V4RB > -- carbon ver of VAPP. > >if you want you can find in archive release 1.8.6 or 1.8.5 which was WHOLE >about VXCMD. > >I must say that MacDev even did not want send it out, because they did say >that XCMD is old ant not modern. So I argument that VXCMD can be used as in >old xCards (HC, SC) so in today's product MetaCard, also in Fronteir and >probably in MacPerl. > > >> You now, ironically, I think that MetaCard sales would probably >> rocket if Scott got the rights to name MetaCard "HyperCard". Maybe >> MC should do an IPO, the users buy stock, the money is used to buy >> HyperCard from Apple - tell the world its alive again (but it's >> really MetaCard), and watch the user base grow. >> >> Just thinking out loud. >> -- >> >> >> Cheers, >> Simon >> >> All your .com .net and .org domains for only $14.50 each. >> Get them while they last... http://www.amigo-3.com/hosting/ >> >> -- >> "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've >> found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov > >-- >Best regards, >Ruslan Zasukhin > >- >Paradigma. > >e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com > >To subscribe to the Valentina mail list >send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ >Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm >Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. -- Cheers, Simon All your .com .net and .org domains for only $14.50 each. Get them while they last... http://www.amigo-3.com/hosting/ -- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina
on 22/1/01 22:55, Robert Brenstein at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon, >>> Huge article over at MacCentral for Valentina but it does not mention >>> or link to MetaCard. And it pains me to see Valentina's web site >>> actually spell out "Apple's Hypercard" which is dead from Apple's >>> point of view, but lump MetaCard into the word xTalk. We need to >>> support Scott and MetaCard by actually spelling this stuff out for >>> others and not let them guess at what xTalk is (I met an old >>> HyperCard programmer at Discreet last week, he had no idea what >>> MetaCard was): > > Whether HyperCard is dead is in the eye of beholder. See the recent story > at MacCentral: > > http://www.maccentral.com/news/0101/18.ihug.shtml > > >> Simon, believe me we was not going offend Metacard in any way! >> Just visa versa, main developer of VXCMD -- Brian Yenni is MetaCard >> developer and we have made all our best to provide you great database engine >> as on MAC so on Windows. >> >> Robert, please check if we really have miss MetaCard in some places of our >> WEB pages, Okay ? > > The homepage does not specifically mention MetaCard -- it refers to "xCard > compatible environments like Apple HyperCard" which should not be offending > to anyone since HC is the grandfather of all of them, those current like > MC, those retired like Plus, and those forthcoming like FreeCard. > > There are explicit mentions of MetaCard on the Valentina XCMD page, on the > industry partners page, inside XCMD doc, and a link is provided on the > online resources page. Good comments, Robert, thank you. >>> You now, ironically, I think that MetaCard sales would probably >>> rocket if Scott got the rights to name MetaCard "HyperCard". Maybe >>> MC should do an IPO, the users buy stock, the money is used to buy >>> HyperCard from Apple - tell the world its alive again (but it's >>> really MetaCard), and watch the user base grow. >>> >>> Just thinking out loud. > > I doubt. May be temporarily due to confusion. MetaCard is a great product > but it is still developing, very much like Valentina. Its learning curve is > more steep than HC and the IDE is not so nice. MetaCard is also too > expensive for the home developer (I mean people who produce stacks for > themselves) and that is the majority of HyperCard users. Many commercial > HyperCard developers switched or develop in both environments (vide Brian > Yenni) since they can easily justify spending $1000 and usually they need > the dual platform support. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina
on 22/1/01 18:40, Simon Lord at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon, > Huge article over at MacCentral for Valentina but it does not mention > or link to MetaCard. And it pains me to see Valentina's web site > actually spell out "Apple's Hypercard" which is dead from Apple's > point of view, but lump MetaCard into the word xTalk. We need to > support Scott and MetaCard by actually spelling this stuff out for > others and not let them guess at what xTalk is (I met an old > HyperCard programmer at Discreet last week, he had no idea what > MetaCard was): Simon, believe me we was not going offend Metacard in any way! Just visa versa, main developer of VXCMD -- Brian Yenni is MetaCard developer and we have made all our best to provide you great database engine as on MAC so on Windows. Robert, please check if we really have miss MetaCard in some places of our WEB pages, Okay ? > http://www.maccentral.com/news/0101/22.osxproducts.shtml > > It just talks about Java and Realbasic, why can't MetaCard get some > free mentions in these articles??? Simon, actually 1.8.7 release have had 3 major features: -- introduces Java -- carbon version of V4RB -- carbon ver of VAPP. if you want you can find in archive release 1.8.6 or 1.8.5 which was WHOLE about VXCMD. I must say that MacDev even did not want send it out, because they did say that XCMD is old ant not modern. So I argument that VXCMD can be used as in old xCards (HC, SC) so in today's product MetaCard, also in Fronteir and probably in MacPerl. > You now, ironically, I think that MetaCard sales would probably > rocket if Scott got the rights to name MetaCard "HyperCard". Maybe > MC should do an IPO, the users buy stock, the money is used to buy > HyperCard from Apple - tell the world its alive again (but it's > really MetaCard), and watch the user base grow. > > Just thinking out loud. > -- > > > Cheers, > Simon > > All your .com .net and .org domains for only $14.50 each. > Get them while they last... http://www.amigo-3.com/hosting/ > > -- > "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've > found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, ShockwaveVersions
on 22/1/01 20:37, jbv at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi jbv, > Hello list, > > I just spent some time checking Valentina for Metacard > and must confess that I'm quite impressed. This thing > could fit very well for a couple of projects I have pending > right now... > > But I have a couple of questions, especially regarding > memory management. When saving a Metacard stack > as a standalone, about 2.5 Mb (basically the Metatalk > interpreter) are added to the stack. > Valentina for Metacard is an XCMD, so I guess that to > be fully operational it has to be added to the ressource > fork of the stack, which should add another 600 Kb (the > exact figure skips my mind right now) to the stack, right ? > And is it the same for the Windoze version ? on windows VXCMD will be always as separate DLL about 700KB. On MAC we have include into VXCMD archive AddLib utility, which allow you join shared lib "Valentina Engine" into resource fork. Or you also can work with separate shared lib. Also, note that database engine can require many RAM for big database, so you need assign on MAC in finder GetInfo dialog more RAM for you final standalone app. > And what about the Valentina files (data, indexes...) ? > Does the XCMD access them on the HD, or is there > any benefit / possibility to upload them in RAM ? By tests Valentina work with disk based fields faster than some RAM-based databases (we have such user which come to Valentina). You don't need do any efforts on putting of files to RAM, Valentina has excellent cache system. > Last but not least : is there somewhere any exhaustive > list of all XCMDs available for Metacard (I'm especially > interested in those running on Mac AND Win) ? > > Thanks. > > JB -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ----- Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave Versions
Hello list, I just spent some time checking Valentina for Metacard and must confess that I'm quite impressed. This thing could fit very well for a couple of projects I have pending right now... But I have a couple of questions, especially regarding memory management. When saving a Metacard stack as a standalone, about 2.5 Mb (basically the Metatalk interpreter) are added to the stack. Valentina for Metacard is an XCMD, so I guess that to be fully operational it has to be added to the ressource fork of the stack, which should add another 600 Kb (the exact figure skips my mind right now) to the stack, right ? And is it the same for the Windoze version ? And what about the Valentina files (data, indexes...) ? Does the XCMD access them on the HD, or is there any benefit / possibility to upload them in RAM ? Last but not least : is there somewhere any exhaustive list of all XCMDs available for Metacard (I'm especially interested in those running on Mac AND Win) ? Thanks. JB Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Valentina
Huge article over at MacCentral for Valentina but it does not mention or link to MetaCard. And it pains me to see Valentina's web site actually spell out "Apple's Hypercard" which is dead from Apple's point of view, but lump MetaCard into the word xTalk. We need to support Scott and MetaCard by actually spelling this stuff out for others and not let them guess at what xTalk is (I met an old HyperCard programmer at Discreet last week, he had no idea what MetaCard was): http://www.maccentral.com/news/0101/22.osxproducts.shtml It just talks about Java and Realbasic, why can't MetaCard get some free mentions in these articles??? You now, ironically, I think that MetaCard sales would probably rocket if Scott got the rights to name MetaCard "HyperCard". Maybe MC should do an IPO, the users buy stock, the money is used to buy HyperCard from Apple - tell the world its alive again (but it's really MetaCard), and watch the user base grow. Just thinking out loud. -- Cheers, Simon All your .com .net and .org domains for only $14.50 each. Get them while they last... http://www.amigo-3.com/hosting/ -- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina
on 20/1/01 11:03, andu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I didn't get use Valentina yet but tonight I read the docs and (balsam for > Ruslan's hart) > was very impresed. Sounds like the right companion for MC. > When do you estimate you'll have a Linux version? Hi Andu, I think end of spring is good time. Actually porting to Linux require fixes only 2 files: FBL_File.cpp and BL_Thread.cpp This files are opened sources in Valentina C++ SDK archive, so if some C++ Linu developer want to speed up process he can study this files and fix them for Linux. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina
I didn't get use Valentina yet but tonight I read the docs and (balsam for Ruslan's hart) was very impresed. Sounds like the right companion for MC. When do you estimate you'll have a Linux version? Regards, Andu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave
on 19/1/01 23:35, Richard Gaskin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> Hey Scott, why not add a notices page to the MetaCard list so people >>> can post their product releases to it? This is not this first time I >>> get spammed in the list (lets call it what it is), it's only going to >>> get worse before it gets better. >> >> On the other hand, it's nice to get information about >> Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) >> >> However, the press-release style probably doesn't make many friends >> on a list like this. Something written specifically for Metacard >> developers would be nicer. > > Personally, I like MetaCard-related product notices here. Yes, I think a > summary of the release with a URL to the full text would be a better read > here, but even more so would be when a release i actually related to > MetaCard: I saw RealBASIC in the release notice, but did I miss the mention > about new features that enhance its operation in MetaCard? 1) Well, usually our releases contains at least paragraph where all supported APIs are listed. 2) If consider last release that for MetaCard developers important information is: a) Valentina application is not Carbon ready (i.e. works on X) This is important because Valentina APP is something like FileMaker, it allow you easy browse your database and modify db structure. b) new release of Valentina product line have go out. Full list of fixed bugs can be found in downloadable archive. --- To put balsam on heart of MetaCard developers I want say: 1) We have spend 2 hard months to enable Valentina database engine for MetaCard as on Windows so on MAC. 2) the most hard was implement Valentina XCMD as fast as possible. We have made 3 big remake of VXCMD to reach speed which satisfy me and allow shine to Valentina engine. 3) MetaCard works with VXCMD several times faster than other xCards. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ----- Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, ShockwaveVersions
On 19/1/01 8:05 pm, Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I understand reaction of Simon, which decide that this is just spam. > Valentina is new for Metacard community, so probably many people are not > aware yet that actually Paradigma offers a product for Metacard developers > -- Valentina XCMD (VXCMD) > as for MAC so for Windows. > > We do release of the WHOLE product line. > This means that release 1.8.7 offers improvements and fixes to VXCMD users > also. > > >> On the other hand, it's nice to get information about >> Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) > > I also think so, there is nothing bad to get announcement on list of new > products and updates which will help you work. My opinion on this is that such an announcement is *not* spam, that this kind of information is useful and relevant to this list. Nor is it all that important that every *single* post that goes to this list be exactly on topic: the vast majority are, and in general I think its helpful to have a relaxed policy - people use this list as a general development resource. For example, asking questions about monitor resolutions and modem speeds are not *precisely* related to MetaCard, but are so useful and close to the subject that I wouldn't think for a moment to try to interfere with them. Finally, as a general point, I think the best place to protest about spam, or other unwanted posts of any description, is my mail box - rather than this list... Regards, Kevin Kevin Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.runrev.com/> Runtime Revolution Limited (formerly Cross Worlds Computing). Tel: +44 (0)131 672 2909. Fax: +44 (0)1639 830 707. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave
>> Hey Scott, why not add a notices page to the MetaCard list so people >> can post their product releases to it? This is not this first time I >> get spammed in the list (lets call it what it is), it's only going to >> get worse before it gets better. > > On the other hand, it's nice to get information about > Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) > > However, the press-release style probably doesn't make many friends > on a list like this. Something written specifically for Metacard > developers would be nicer. Personally, I like MetaCard-related product notices here. Yes, I think a summary of the release with a URL to the full text would be a better read here, but even more so would be when a release i actually related to MetaCard: I saw RealBASIC in the release notice, but did I miss the mention about new features that enhance its operation in MetaCard? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World Media Corporation Multimedia Design and Development for Mac, Windows, UNIX, and the Web _ [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.FourthWorld.com Tel: 323-225-3717 ICQ#60248349Fax: 323-225-0716 Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, ShockwaveVersions
on 19/1/01 17:03, Dave Cragg at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: H Simon, Hi Dave, Hi Scott, Hi MetaCard Developers, > At 8:53 AM -0500 19/1/01, Simon Lord wrote: >> Hey Scott, why not add a notices page to the MetaCard list so people >> can post their product releases to it? This is not this first time I >> get spammed in the list (lets call it what it is), it's only going to >> get worse before it gets better. Please take my apologies for sending to MC list general PR. I understand reaction of Simon, which decide that this is just spam. Valentina is new for Metacard community, so probably many people are not aware yet that actually Paradigma offers a product for Metacard developers -- Valentina XCMD (VXCMD) as for MAC so for Windows. We do release of the WHOLE product line. This means that release 1.8.7 offers improvements and fixes to VXCMD users also. > On the other hand, it's nice to get information about > Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) I also think so, there is nothing bad to get announcement on list of new products and updates which will help you work. > However, the press-release style probably doesn't make many friends > on a list like this. Something written specifically for Metacard > developers would be nicer. Agree, on the other hand this is hard enough to do, because Valentina now support a lots of API: C++, Java, Director, RB, xCards, WebSiphon, AppleScript > By the way, I just gave the Valentina xcmd (Windows version) a try > out. I'm no database person, but it seems a solid and powerful tool. > It took a couple of long sessions to work out what I was doing, but I > managed to build tables, link them, load data, run queries, etc, all > from a Metacard interface. btw, have you try use Debug feature of VXCMD ? Highly recommend to use. > I'd be interested to hear from anyone using it for "big" projects > about its performance and stability. Dan, if you want to get info about Valentina the best place -- Valentina list. (btw on our WEB you can find archive for last 1.5 years). On this list you will meet several hundreds of Valentina developers which work on MAC and Windows, which use all that different APIs, but they are joined by Valentina. Valentina community is very friendly and responsible (as Valentina itself :-) PERFORMANCE: you can find benchmarks of Valentina on our site. in short -- incredible PROJECTS: practically of any kind. From small -- like a pref files, to databases with many tables and hundreds of thousand of records. One of the important for many developers "feature" of Valentina -- its files can be easy used from any supported environments. For example you can develop part of your project in MC and other part in C++ or Java. FUTURE? Valentina Server improved SQL Linux porting more Object-Oriented features in database -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin ----- Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave Versions
At 8:53 AM -0500 19/1/01, Simon Lord wrote: >Hey Scott, why not add a notices page to the MetaCard list so people >can post their product releases to it? This is not this first time I >get spammed in the list (lets call it what it is), it's only going to >get worse before it gets better. On the other hand, it's nice to get information about Metacard-related products. We're not exactly swamped with them. :) However, the press-release style probably doesn't make many friends on a list like this. Something written specifically for Metacard developers would be nicer. By the way, I just gave the Valentina xcmd (Windows version) a try out. I'm no database person, but it seems a solid and powerful tool. It took a couple of long sessions to work out what I was doing, but I managed to build tables, link them, load data, run queries, etc, all from a Metacard interface. I'd be interested to hear from anyone using it for "big" projects about its performance and stability. Cheers Dave Cragg Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave Versions
Hey Scott, why not add a notices page to the MetaCard list so people can post their product releases to it? This is not this first time I get spammed in the list (lets call it what it is), it's only going to get worse before it gets better. >Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave Versions > >TECHNOLOGY RELEASE 1.8.7 INCLUDES NEW PRODUCT, STRATEGIC IMPROVEMENTS TO >DIRECTOR, REALBASIC AND MAC OS X VERSIONS > >January 18, 2001. Beaverton, Oregon. Paradigma Software announced the >availability of technology release 1.8.7, including powerful new >functionality to most SDKs and MacOS X support. It introduces the release >version of Valentina for Java (VJSDK), Shockwave safe and Authorware >friendly Valentina for Director, and MacOS X ready versions of Valentina >application and Valentina for REALbasic. > >Valentina for Java is the first of Paradigma Software's line of database >tools for development of client side pure Java applications. VJSDK includes >implementations for Macintosh and Windows development and includes the >Valentina application (VAPP) for rapid creation and modification of >object-relational databases. VJSDK is available for $299. > >Valentina for Director release 1.8.7 is now Shockwave safe, meaning the >Valentina runtime can be downloaded with a Director Shockwave project. It >also includes compatibility with Macromedia Authorware. Valentina for >Director is available for Macintosh and Windows platforms. Single platform >pricing is $199. Two platform pricing is $299, and includes the Valentina >application. Version 1.X users can upgrade to the latest version for free. > >Valentina for REALbasic 1.8.7 is the MacOS X compliant version of the >Valentina implementation for the popular visual BASIC environment, >REALbasic, supporting REAL Software's native MacOS X and Classic >compilation. Valentina for REALbasic Standard Edition is available for $199. >The Professional version is $299, includes the Valentina application and >supports Windows compilation. > >Version 1.X users can upgrade to the 1.8.7 versions for free. > >"REALbasic programmers want to develop for MacOS X now so they can ship OS X >ready applications when the OS is ready. They don't want their apps to be >forced to run under 'Classic'. With V4RB 1.8.7, they can be assured that >their Classic, MacOS X, 68K and Windows applications are all supported by >the fastest and most robust database engine available for REALbasic," said >Ruslan Zasukhin, founder of Paradigma Software. > >Additional information is available on the Paradigma Software website, or >through its authorized international distribution partners. > >About Paradigma Software > >Paradigma Software developed the ultra-fast Valentina database kernel, the >core of its line of database products for designers and developers. Founded >in 1998 by Ruslan Zasukhin, Paradigma Software has teamed with US-based >Proactive International, LLC for international business development. For >additional information, visit the Paradigma Software website at >http://www.paradigmasoft.com. > >Contact > >Paradigma Software >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > >Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ >Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm >Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. -- Cheers, Simon All your .com .net and .org domains for only $14.50 each. Get them while they last... http://www.amigo-3.com/hosting/ -- "The great discoveries in science are not punctuated by 'Eureka! I've found it!' but rather "Hmmm,that's funny" Isaac Asimov Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, ShockwaveVersions
Valentina 1.8.7 Introduces Java, MacOS X REALbasic, Shockwave Versions TECHNOLOGY RELEASE 1.8.7 INCLUDES NEW PRODUCT, STRATEGIC IMPROVEMENTS TO DIRECTOR, REALBASIC AND MAC OS X VERSIONS January 18, 2001. Beaverton, Oregon. Paradigma Software announced the availability of technology release 1.8.7, including powerful new functionality to most SDKs and MacOS X support. It introduces the release version of Valentina for Java (VJSDK), Shockwave safe and Authorware friendly Valentina for Director, and MacOS X ready versions of Valentina application and Valentina for REALbasic. Valentina for Java is the first of Paradigma Software's line of database tools for development of client side pure Java applications. VJSDK includes implementations for Macintosh and Windows development and includes the Valentina application (VAPP) for rapid creation and modification of object-relational databases. VJSDK is available for $299. Valentina for Director release 1.8.7 is now Shockwave safe, meaning the Valentina runtime can be downloaded with a Director Shockwave project. It also includes compatibility with Macromedia Authorware. Valentina for Director is available for Macintosh and Windows platforms. Single platform pricing is $199. Two platform pricing is $299, and includes the Valentina application. Version 1.X users can upgrade to the latest version for free. Valentina for REALbasic 1.8.7 is the MacOS X compliant version of the Valentina implementation for the popular visual BASIC environment, REALbasic, supporting REAL Software's native MacOS X and Classic compilation. Valentina for REALbasic Standard Edition is available for $199. The Professional version is $299, includes the Valentina application and supports Windows compilation. Version 1.X users can upgrade to the 1.8.7 versions for free. "REALbasic programmers want to develop for MacOS X now so they can ship OS X ready applications when the OS is ready. They don't want their apps to be forced to run under 'Classic'. With V4RB 1.8.7, they can be assured that their Classic, MacOS X, 68K and Windows applications are all supported by the fastest and most robust database engine available for REALbasic," said Ruslan Zasukhin, founder of Paradigma Software. Additional information is available on the Paradigma Software website, or through its authorized international distribution partners. About Paradigma Software Paradigma Software developed the ultra-fast Valentina database kernel, the core of its line of database products for designers and developers. Founded in 1998 by Ruslan Zasukhin, Paradigma Software has teamed with US-based Proactive International, LLC for international business development. For additional information, visit the Paradigma Software website at http://www.paradigmasoft.com. Contact Paradigma Software [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.paradigmasoft.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
OK > From: Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 15:12:08 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Valentina and MC > > on 16/12/00 14:01, David Bovill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> So can't you use the C/C++ library/toolkit? > > What you mean David ? > For development of what ? > > Right now we have Valentina C++ SDK for MAC and WIN. > Yes it will be relatively easy port Valentina kernel to Linux. > > But at first I want port it on preemptive MacOS X, > then step to Linux will be short... > > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin > > - > Paradigma. > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > To subscribe to the Valentina mail list > send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
on 16/12/00 14:01, David Bovill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So can't you use the C/C++ library/toolkit? What you mean David ? For development of what ? Right now we have Valentina C++ SDK for MAC and WIN. Yes it will be relatively easy port Valentina kernel to Linux. But at first I want port it on preemptive MacOS X, then step to Linux will be short... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
So can't you use the C/C++ library/toolkit? > From: Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 11:22:01 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Valentina and MC > > on 16/12/00 01:19, David Bovill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> If I want to run Valentina and MC under Linux? > > For now there is no Valentina for Linux. > But will be about next Summer. > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin > > - > Paradigma. > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > To subscribe to the Valentina mail list > send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
on 16/12/00 01:19, David Bovill at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > If I want to run Valentina and MC under Linux? For now there is no Valentina for Linux. But will be about next Summer. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
If I want to run Valentina and MC under Linux? > From: Ruslan Zasukhin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 14 Dec 2000 10:50:49 +0200 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Valentina and MC > > on 14/12/00 08:42, michael kann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi Michael, > >> --- Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: >> >>> I'd like to inform you about ability to built into >> your MetaCard applications Valentina database engine. >> >> --- Looks like a great product. I can see lots of uses >> for it. I have the VXCMD Test Project open on my >> Windows desktop. How do I use it to create a database, >> put some records in, and get some records out? How do >> you write your own interface to access the records? I >> know about databases and SQL, I just need a jump start >> to get something working. Thanks, Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You ask how to run example project from VXCMD for Windows archive ? > > 1) Make sure that VXCMD.DLL correctly listed in list of DLLs of stack > > 2) run project, > > -- click button "create", choose location on disk for database > > -- to add test records click "Add Records", enter in dialog for example 100. > VXCMD will add 100 records. > > -- Now you can click "select records" > you will see dialog with simplest SQL: "SELECT * FROM Customers" > click Ok > you will see fields of first record. > Now you can use navigation buttons to go next/prev/first/last records. > Enter new SQL > > > Please note, VXCMD Win archive is old enough. > Latest 2 months we have work with MAC version only. > > VXCMD 1.8.6 final release with a lots of improvements expect tomorrow. > > > -- > Best regards, > Ruslan Zasukhin > > - > Paradigma. > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com > > To subscribe to the Valentina mail list > send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ > Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm > Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC
on 14/12/00 08:42, michael kann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael, > --- Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > >> I'd like to inform you about ability to built into > your MetaCard applications Valentina database engine. > > --- Looks like a great product. I can see lots of uses > for it. I have the VXCMD Test Project open on my > Windows desktop. How do I use it to create a database, > put some records in, and get some records out? How do > you write your own interface to access the records? I > know about databases and SQL, I just need a jump start > to get something working. Thanks, Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] You ask how to run example project from VXCMD for Windows archive ? 1) Make sure that VXCMD.DLL correctly listed in list of DLLs of stack 2) run project, -- click button "create", choose location on disk for database -- to add test records click "Add Records", enter in dialog for example 100. VXCMD will add 100 records. -- Now you can click "select records" you will see dialog with simplest SQL: "SELECT * FROM Customers" click Ok you will see fields of first record. Now you can use navigation buttons to go next/prev/first/last records. Enter new SQL Please note, VXCMD Win archive is old enough. Latest 2 months we have work with MAC version only. VXCMD 1.8.6 final release with a lots of improvements expect tomorrow. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC (was: MC to 4D Database)
on 14/12/00 08:42, michael kann at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > --- Looks like a great product. I can see lots of uses > for it. I have the VXCMD Test Project open on my > Windows desktop. How do I use it to create a database, > put some records in, and get some records out? How do > you write your own interface to access the records? I > know about databases and SQL, I just need a jump start > to get something working. Thanks, Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Michael, to start use Valentina XCMD in your project you need a) on Windows add VXCMD.dll to list of dlls b) on MAC copy by ResEdit xfcn "Valentina" and install shared lib "Valentina engine" into extension folder or MC folder First you call to Valentina must be ValentinaInit( cache, ...) On finish you need ValentinaShutDown() Between them you can do anything Database_Create() Databae_MakeNewBaseObject ... -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC (was: MC to 4D Database)
--- Ruslan Zasukhin wrote: > I'd like to inform you about ability to built into your MetaCard applications Valentina database engine. --- Looks like a great product. I can see lots of uses for it. I have the VXCMD Test Project open on my Windows desktop. How do I use it to create a database, put some records in, and get some records out? How do you write your own interface to access the records? I know about databases and SQL, I just need a jump start to get something working. Thanks, Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
Re: Valentina and MC (was: MC to 4D Database)
on 13/12/00 22:37, Sivakatirswami at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyone familiar with 4D database? > > Can MC access/read-write to a 4D database? Hi MetaCard developers, I'd like to inform you about ability to built into your MetaCard applications Valentina database engine. If somebody don't know, this is a db engine which works on many operations in 100-1000 times faster of such dbs as FileMaker, 4D. Looks like It is much faster of mySQL also, although there was no yet good direct tests. Right now we are finishing a new product -- Valentina XCMD. Actually this is a combination of -- small 'xfcn' resource 200 bytes -- and Shared Library "Valentina kernel" So, now you have VERY EFFECTIVE way to work with Valentina database directly. I underline "VERY EFFECTIVE" because combination of xfcn + shared lib works in 20-30 times faster than XCMD itself. Even better, special for MetaCard developers was made Windows version of "Valentina XCMD" If you decide stop by Valentina on long time, then subscribe to Valentina list where you will find several hundreds of Valentina developers. -- Best regards, Ruslan Zasukhin - Paradigma. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web : http://www.paradigmasoft.com To subscribe to the Valentina mail list send a letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, not this list.
