Re: getting socket identification numbers
If you are going one-on-one, then you can just have the stack show your id, and use a different method (email, etc) to communicate that to the target. "different method" (to get the IP) which we once used with the now defunct Marionette (4 years ago) that DID rely on a known third server but very "lightly" was: Initiating chatter box "server" boots, logs onto the net and writes it's (dynamically received) IP to a small text file at some known ISP host machine's web site, containing nothing but it's IP,port, then goes into listen mode. "Client" side chatters boot up, uses http to get the unknown chat server's IP sitting on the known ISP web site, and then starts talking directly to the initiating chat machine. You can build on this to set up a "chat room" that is not happening on any ISP's server. . .the ISP's server just serves up the IP address of the chat server. The initiating chatter box has a field that serves as the "chat room" and users get that data fed back to them after each post. which is appended to the field. The strategy worked like a charm, but Marionett's protocols were horrifically slow and the app had a memory leak and kept locking up after opening more then three sockets to chatters, we abandoned the whole project. But this should blaze in MC. Some "traffic control" would be needed for a full blown chat room. If you are looking for a more universal/large scale/robust/automatic system, then I would think you'd need to set up a server at a fixed address (in other words, not at your location) and set up the chat clients to automatically log in to the server, and find each other through that. Hinduism Today Sivakatirswami Editor's Assistant/Production Manager www.HinduismToday.com www.HimalayanAcademy.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: getting socket identification numbers
on 1/2/01 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a chat program, bolstered by the help of others on the list. I want to get the IP address of the person chatting with me, even if they don't know how to get it themselves. I investigated hostAddress and peerAddress but ran into a puzzle -- can anyone explain it? I have looked into this again and have found that: put peerAddress(s) into field "whatever" will also get the other person's ip number. This is much cleaner than the other way I just posted. The key for us newbies is to understand that the "s" variable is the part that we miss. You must use the variable that you chose at the beginning of the handler that does the reading. For example, I used this: on openCard put field "port" into iPort accept connections on port iPort with message "newconnect" end openCard on newconnect s --FIGURE OUT THE LENGTH OF THE MESSAGE read from socket s for 1 line put it into tLength --NOW READ FOR THE SPECIFIED LENGTH OF THE MESSAGE read from socket s for tLength put peerAddress(s) ... ... end newconnect -Mark Talluto Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: getting socket identification numbers
on 1/2/01 3:10 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a chat program, bolstered by the help of others on the list. I want to get the IP address of the person chatting with me, even if they don't know how to get it themselves. I investigated hostAddress and peerAddress but ran into a puzzle -- can anyone explain it? I have just implemented that feature. This is what I did. --FIGURE SENDERS IP ADDRESS set the itemdel to "|" put item 1 of s " " into field "whatever" The s variable contains the other person's ip information. This should be placed somewhere after the read command. I think it must be in the same handler as the read command though. Hope this helps some. -Mark Talluto I'm chatting on my Win98 machine between two stacks with different addresses, 208.193.15.192 given to me by the ISP, and 127.0.0.1, the loopback address. In each stack I have a button with this script: on mouseUp put fld "sendIPfld" into vIP put fld "sendSocketFld" into vSocket put vIP":"vSocket into tDest open socket tDest put hostAddress(tDest)returnpeerAddress(tDest) into fld resultFld close socket tDest end mouseUp From each stack I get the same result -- the hostAddress and the peerAddress are the same, and that address is for the stack that I am connecting to, not the address for the stack with the button. Shouldn't they be different? I'm using two different port numbers -- one to go from the 208.193.15.192 address to the 127.0.0.1 address, and one to go back the other way. But I don't see how that could make any difference. Any help would be much appreciated. Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: getting socket identification numbers
This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --=_NextPart_000_0034_01C0740A.EED97EA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I do not have a permanent domain id. I can get a temporary one and set = up my mc server from my home pc, but the id #s change every time I log = on. Is there a simple way for MC to initiate and identify these numbers = for use in chat stacks etc.? Thanks Peter I would be greatful if you sent your mail as plain text. After you do: open socket X, do: put hostAddress(X) into myAddress ##your current IP address. Regards, Andu ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: getting socket identification numbers
At 3:53 PM -0500 1/1/01, Sound Medicine, Inc. wrote: I do not have a permanent domain id. I can get a temporary one and set up my mc server from my home pc, but the id #s change every time I log on. Is there a simple way for MC to initiate and identify these numbers for use in chat stacks etc.? If you are going one-on-one, then you can just have the stack show your id, and use a different method (email, etc) to communicate that to the target. If you are looking for a more universal/large scale/robust/automatic system, then I would think you'd need to set up a server at a fixed address (in other words, not at your location) and set up the chat clients to automatically log in to the server, and find each other through that. Regards, Geoff Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
Re: getting socket identification numbers
I'm working on a chat program, bolstered by the help of others on the list. I want to get the IP address of the person chatting with me, even if they don't know how to get it themselves. I investigated hostAddress and peerAddress but ran into a puzzle -- can anyone explain it? I'm chatting on my Win98 machine between two stacks with different addresses, 208.193.15.192 given to me by the ISP, and 127.0.0.1, the loopback address. In each stack I have a button with this script: on mouseUp put fld "sendIPfld" into vIP put fld "sendSocketFld" into vSocket put vIP":"vSocket into tDest open socket tDest put hostAddress(tDest)returnpeerAddress(tDest) into fld resultFld close socket tDest end mouseUp From each stack I get the same result -- the hostAddress and the peerAddress are the same, and that address is for the stack that I am connecting to, not the address for the stack with the button. Shouldn't they be different? I'm using two different port numbers -- one to go from the 208.193.15.192 address to the 127.0.0.1 address, and one to go back the other way. But I don't see how that could make any difference. Any help would be much appreciated. Michael Kann, [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/ Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/metacard@lists.runrev.com/ Info: http://www.xworlds.com/metacard/mailinglist.htm Please send bug reports to [EMAIL PROTECTED], not this list.
