[meteorite-list] patience
Hi there, You said... I can sense a new passion in the making and I hate to see it possibly squelched by attitude problems amongst the regulars here. If you can't say something thing nice, say nothing 'till such opportunity arises. Fondle your rocks for a while. I take on board what you say, but I do have to defend the expression attitude problem which I presume relates to my admittedly rather inappropriate flame towards Mohamed. As you have been a subscriber to this list you have watched how this has developed and also hopefully noticed that also I do not have a tendency to contribute to the list in such a negative manner. I was upset for good reason as I felt that despite being asked for advice from some listees, who are undeniable world experts, their response was being regarded as some sort of second class reference and that Mohamed was just using the List for a vehicle for his ego and no display of deference shown to their expertise. You may recall that one of the list members actually tried to justify the somewhat terse nature of his email by explaining that there may be a language barrier problem and not to judge to harshly, to which Mohamed replied that no, he was being terse and that he thought that we all collectively wrong and he was undeniably right. I personally thought that was extremely rude - now THAT is what I call an attitude problem. I hope that I haven;t offended you either - I just wanted to clarify things, and yes, I did play with my rocks for solace! But thanks anyway for your observations - it makes us all better and more tolerant people and boy, do we need that in the world today! very best! dave -- In gentle decay, dave http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html http://www.thc.u-net.com/davethc1.htm I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2. However, it won't fit into my signature file __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] dare you say this is not LUNAR
WOW. Jake Delgaudio The Nature Source Meteorites and Fossils Queensbury, NEW YORK 12804 website: www.nature-source.com email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone:(518) 761-6702 Fax; (518) 798-9107 Proud member of: The Meteoritical Society and The Paleontological Suppliers of America __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
Your answer is at the bottom of the following webpage. http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/impacts/ Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids In a message dated 1/14/02 1:27:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "A big asteroid hasn't hit in recorded human history, but it could happen next year. The chances are the same as dying in an airplane crash, with or without terrorists."Did I read that right? The odds of a big asteroid hitting earth next year are the same as dying in an airplane crash? What exactly are those odds? Steve Arnold
Re: [meteorite-list] twit
Rhett; Just wanna tell you that I am a programmer too, especially in professinal website design. I can tell you what are the settings of your computer once you enter my site. Cheeers - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] twit How can we trace stuff? Its an amazing thing called technology. You look at the header of an email, get the IP address, go to www.samspade.org, run it through that and then use knowledge of the net and IP addresses and it takes about 2 minutes to figure it all out as long as you know how this stuff works. Not much work there. And, believe it or not, we were not doing it so that we could come over there and hunt for our own rocks. Most people that this was just some sort of an elaborate joke. Apparently not. I really do wish you the best of luck in finding a real meteorite someday but for the time being I think the general consensus is correct that you yet to do so and I wonder what your intentions are when you keep posting to this list? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DiamondMeteor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit It is amazing how you can trace things, are you FBI, CIA, MOSAD, GISTAB,,, or what? You are really strange people. You must be some kind of a new meteorite I have to discover yet! But it is no secrets you are telling. It is me who published the website and gave you the link. Oh I dont know why I replied to such naive emails after I decided not to. But since I did, I just want to say that others who wrote such irritating emails are not worth the press of the mouse on the reply botton. They are not worth any bad word I may say though I am sure it will upset me more when I say it. I dont get myself down to their level. With my kind respect to all others on the list, even those who misunderstood me in one way or another. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Wendi Beauford ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Mohamed, Robert and All, Robert is correct! I did a search on Google for DiamondMeteor. Mr. Yousef has been trying to get buyers to resrve a piece of this meteorite for awhile. (Google makes CACHED snapshots.) http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:ALSEskGhdsEC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/reserve.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XK2q42HOWkYC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/prices.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en He thoughtfully changed his web site just for our benefit. Or perhaps he just packs up his tent by making a slight address changes. Mohamed, if registration and formal classifcation of the meteorite are underway, why are you asking the List if they are meteorites? Is that how you formally classify them? Did you actually get money for any pieces? I can't say for sure, but it looks like you're blowing your chance to become an IMCA member Still Amazed, Ken Newton P.S. Jake, I'll take the board game and the two videos. Robert Wendi Beauford wrote: I didn't think it was amusing ~a year ago when I first saw this absurd website with it's collection of interesting minerals set up for sale as meteorites in what appears to be an lame attempt at fraud. And I can't say that I still don't find it amusing, because now I truly do! This is not the fresh excitement of a person with a very looong learning curve. It is either a very very good practical joke (and kudos to whoever if it is!) or one of the least impressive people I have ever encountered. (You should have met the biblical inerancy guy who came by my garage sale and explained dinosaurs, the nature of the fossil record, human origins, and his views on planetary atmospheres to me the other day. I was careful not to encourage him by hinting any interest in the topics so he wound down after only 20 minutes.) -Robert Beauford : ) From: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] lunar? Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:13:48 +0400 Dear Dave and List; Sorry if my posts are irritating you so much; but I dont see why!!! I promise I will not post anything about my METEORITES until I get them certified. The white regions in the last pictures are NOT calcite at all. Besides, there is a clear fusion crust that maybe not seen well in the picture because the bulk is also black. I forgot to tell you that the rock is a little magnetic, though this is not common
RE: [meteorite-list] twit
Also, I often use proxies when going to sights that I wouldn't trust. They obscure everything about me. Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DiamondMeteor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Rhett; Just wanna tell you that I am a programmer too, especially in professinal website design. I can tell you what are the settings of your computer once you enter my site. Cheeers - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] twit How can we trace stuff? Its an amazing thing called technology. You look at the header of an email, get the IP address, go to www.samspade.org, run it through that and then use knowledge of the net and IP addresses and it takes about 2 minutes to figure it all out as long as you know how this stuff works. Not much work there. And, believe it or not, we were not doing it so that we could come over there and hunt for our own rocks. Most people that this was just some sort of an elaborate joke. Apparently not. I really do wish you the best of luck in finding a real meteorite someday but for the time being I think the general consensus is correct that you yet to do so and I wonder what your intentions are when you keep posting to this list? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DiamondMeteor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit It is amazing how you can trace things, are you FBI, CIA, MOSAD, GISTAB,,, or what? You are really strange people. You must be some kind of a new meteorite I have to discover yet! But it is no secrets you are telling. It is me who published the website and gave you the link. Oh I dont know why I replied to such naive emails after I decided not to. But since I did, I just want to say that others who wrote such irritating emails are not worth the press of the mouse on the reply botton. They are not worth any bad word I may say though I am sure it will upset me more when I say it. I dont get myself down to their level. With my kind respect to all others on the list, even those who misunderstood me in one way or another. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Wendi Beauford ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Mohamed, Robert and All, Robert is correct! I did a search on Google for DiamondMeteor. Mr. Yousef has been trying to get buyers to resrve a piece of this meteorite for awhile. (Google makes CACHED snapshots.) http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:ALSEskGhdsEC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/reserve.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XK2q42HOWkYC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/prices.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en He thoughtfully changed his web site just for our benefit. Or perhaps he just packs up his tent by making a slight address changes. Mohamed, if registration and formal classifcation of the meteorite are underway, why are you asking the List if they are meteorites? Is that how you formally classify them? Did you actually get money for any pieces? I can't say for sure, but it looks like you're blowing your chance to become an IMCA member Still Amazed, Ken Newton P.S. Jake, I'll take the board game and the two videos. Robert Wendi Beauford wrote: I didn't think it was amusing ~a year ago when I first saw this absurd website with it's collection of interesting minerals set up for sale as meteorites in what appears to be an lame attempt at fraud. And I can't say that I still don't find it amusing, because now I truly do! This is not the fresh excitement of a person with a very looong learning curve. It is either a very very good practical joke (and kudos to whoever if it is!) or one of the least impressive people I have ever encountered. (You should have met the biblical inerancy guy who came by my garage sale and explained dinosaurs, the nature of the fossil record, human origins, and his views on planetary atmospheres to me the other day. I was careful not to encourage him by hinting any interest in the topics so he wound down after only 20 minutes.) -Robert Beauford : ) From: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] lunar? Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:13:48 +0400 Dear Dave and List;
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
No, I take the table to read that those are the odds for your lifetime. Not a yearly basis. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids Your answer is at the bottom of the following webpage. http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/impacts/ If the odds of dying of an asteroid/comet strike are 20,000 to 1, wouldn't that mean that 12,500 people (out of the USA's 250,000,000) figure to die that way? There is something wrong with this (surely), what is it? Gregory
RE: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
Well hey, how many dogs or cow have you ever hear winning the lottery and how many have been hit by a meteorite? I'll let the numbers speak for themselves on this one. :) Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids In a message dated 1/14/02 1:27:15 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The odds of dying from an asteroid impact are better than winning the lottery, researchers said, Really? Well, I live in a state without a lottery, so for me, it probably is an accurate statement. I wonder if odds are better for a cow to win the lottery than to be killed by an asteroid impact? Or a dog? Steve Arnold __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] twit
Dear Matteo; You are absolutely right, But. I did not say I have analyzed yet these rocks, but this now being done. Hopefully soon you will see the result here. All I wanted is to take other people's openions, and then it developes in a bad way. Most people here really have bad tempres and pre-attitudes.. I regret. Best Wishes Mohamed -- - Original Message - From: Matteo Chinellato [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Mr Mohamed I repeat, if this is really meteorites, please show in the site or in attachment the analysis of this meteorites, where they have been analyzed, in that Institute or University, their escape in the Meteoritical Bulletin and all the possible information. If not you have to disposition this information, sorry but nobody will believe that these your pieces are meteorites - and I can confirm otherwise that it they are not -, enough with these messages why they begin to bother. Regards Matteo --- DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is amazing how you can trace things, are you FBI, CIA, MOSAD, GISTAB,,, or what? You are really strange people. You must be some kind of a new meteorite I have to discover yet! But it is no secrets you are telling. It is me who published the website and gave you the link. Oh I dont know why I replied to such naive emails after I decided not to. But since I did, I just want to say that others who wrote such irritating emails are not worth the press of the mouse on the reply botton. They are not worth any bad word I may say though I am sure it will upset me more when I say it. I dont get myself down to their level. With my kind respect to all others on the list, even those who misunderstood me in one way or another. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Wendi Beauford ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Mohamed, Robert and All, Robert is correct! I did a search on Google for DiamondMeteor. Mr. Yousef has been trying to get buyers to resrve a piece of this meteorite for awhile. (Google makes CACHED snapshots.) http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:ALSEskGhdsEC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/reserve.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XK2q42HOWkYC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/prices.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en He thoughtfully changed his web site just for our benefit. Or perhaps he just packs up his tent by making a slight address changes. Mohamed, if registration and formal classifcation of the meteorite are underway, why are you asking the List if they are meteorites? Is that how you formally classify them? Did you actually get money for any pieces? I can't say for sure, but it looks like you're blowing your chance to become an IMCA member Still Amazed, Ken Newton P.S. Jake, I'll take the board game and the two videos. Robert Wendi Beauford wrote: I didn't think it was amusing ~a year ago when I first saw this absurd website with it's collection of interesting minerals set up for sale as meteorites in what appears to be an lame attempt at fraud. And I can't say that I still don't find it amusing, because now I truly do! This is not the fresh excitement of a person with a very looong learning curve. It is either a very very good practical joke (and kudos to whoever if it is!) or one of the least impressive people I have ever encountered. (You should have met the biblical inerancy guy who came by my garage sale and explained dinosaurs, the nature of the fossil record, human origins, and his views on planetary atmospheres to me the other day. I was careful not to encourage him by hinting any interest in the topics so he wound down after only 20 minutes.) -Robert Beauford : ) From: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] lunar? Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 00:13:48 +0400 Dear Dave and List; Sorry if my posts are irritating you so much; but I dont see why!!! I promise I will not post anything about my METEORITES until I get them certified. The white regions in the last pictures are NOT calcite at all. Besides, there is a clear fusion crust that maybe not seen well in the picture because the bulk is also black. I forgot to tell you that the rock is a little magnetic, though this is not common for lunar meteorites. The REAL expert that I am talking about
RE: [meteorite-list] twit
Yeah, I know. I could if I wanted to also but I don't because I consider it an invasion on people's prioritites. I have counters to tell me how many people come to my sites but that's it. Actually, if you really want to you can even tell te computer configurations and even what types of routers you are connecting through if you like by running a packet filter and then finger printing the responses you get. You don't even have to go to a website to do that. But then again, I'm sure you knew that. Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DiamondMeteor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Rhett; Just wanna tell you that I am a programmer too, especially in professinal website design. I can tell you what are the settings of your computer once you enter my site. Cheeers - Original Message - From: Rhett Bourland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DiamondMeteor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:19 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] twit How can we trace stuff? Its an amazing thing called technology. You look at the header of an email, get the IP address, go to www.samspade.org, run it through that and then use knowledge of the net and IP addresses and it takes about 2 minutes to figure it all out as long as you know how this stuff works. Not much work there. And, believe it or not, we were not doing it so that we could come over there and hunt for our own rocks. Most people that this was just some sort of an elaborate joke. Apparently not. I really do wish you the best of luck in finding a real meteorite someday but for the time being I think the general consensus is correct that you yet to do so and I wonder what your intentions are when you keep posting to this list? Rhett Bourland www.asteroidmodels.com www.asteroidmodels.com/personal www.meteoritecollectors.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DiamondMeteor Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 10:10 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit It is amazing how you can trace things, are you FBI, CIA, MOSAD, GISTAB,,, or what? You are really strange people. You must be some kind of a new meteorite I have to discover yet! But it is no secrets you are telling. It is me who published the website and gave you the link. Oh I dont know why I replied to such naive emails after I decided not to. But since I did, I just want to say that others who wrote such irritating emails are not worth the press of the mouse on the reply botton. They are not worth any bad word I may say though I am sure it will upset me more when I say it. I dont get myself down to their level. With my kind respect to all others on the list, even those who misunderstood me in one way or another. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Robert Wendi Beauford ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] twit Mohamed, Robert and All, Robert is correct! I did a search on Google for DiamondMeteor. Mr. Yousef has been trying to get buyers to resrve a piece of this meteorite for awhile. (Google makes CACHED snapshots.) http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:ALSEskGhdsEC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/reserve.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:XK2q42HOWkYC:pages.britishlibrary.net/m hy10/meteor/prices.htm+DiamondMeteorhl=en He thoughtfully changed his web site just for our benefit. Or perhaps he just packs up his tent by making a slight address changes. Mohamed, if registration and formal classifcation of the meteorite are underway, why are you asking the List if they are meteorites? Is that how you formally classify them? Did you actually get money for any pieces? I can't say for sure, but it looks like you're blowing your chance to become an IMCA member Still Amazed, Ken Newton P.S. Jake, I'll take the board game and the two videos. Robert Wendi Beauford wrote: I didn't think it was amusing ~a year ago when I first saw this absurd website with it's collection of interesting minerals set up for sale as meteorites in what appears to be an lame attempt at fraud. And I can't say that I still don't find it amusing, because now I truly do! This is not the fresh excitement of a person with a very looong learning curve. It is either a very very good practical joke (and kudos to whoever if it is!) or one of the least impressive people I have ever encountered. (You should have met the biblical inerancy guy who came by my garage sale and explained dinosaurs, the nature of the
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
If the odds of dying of an asteroid/comet strike are 20,000 to 1, wouldn't that mean that 12,500 people (out of the USA's 250,000,000) figure to die that way? There is something wrong with this (surely), what is it? There is nothing wrong with it, but you have to be aware you're looking at an average. People die from plane crashes every year. With an asteroid impact, you can go many years (perhaps centuries) before anyone get killed, but when it does happens, thousand or millions are killed at once. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
Dear Survey says: If no people have ever been killed from an impact then.isn't it all just a guess? Odds of something falling I can see as it is time related but of killing people, that would be odd since landing in siberia would be different then Muskogee...where did someone come up with that anyways? I don't see how they can figure odds unless they took total earth population, and total surface area and time between events, surely would be easier to find a needle in a haystack than come up with any competent and realistic odds. Davescarednot George N. wrote: They are taking into account that at least several thousand people will likely be killed in one instance. That effects the odds greatly. Example: if an asteroid struck today and killed 12,500 people. Then the odds would be accurate. George Nicula - Original Message - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids Your answer is at the bottom of the following webpage. http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/impacts/ http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/%7Ejahern/impacts/ If the odds of dying of an asteroid/comet strike are 20,000 to 1, wouldn't that mean that 12,500 people (out of the USA's 250,000,000) figure to die that way? There is something wrong with this (surely), what is it? Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
As stated in the article, the odds are 1 in 20,000. But the odds of any one person being killed by a comet are astronomically different (no pun intended) than the odds of a comet striking the Earth within the next million years. Depends on exactly what event is being considered. Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids
Hi Dave and Others, You are exactly right. It is a guess. I suspect that some of the factors incorporated into the equation would be: Land to water ratio, Average estimated size of known craters and impacts, Average population to surface area of planet ratio, Models of historical data(extinction theory etc.), Estimated time between impacts average, And of course location of meteorite hunting groups with super high power rare earth magnets, which would certainly increase the risk of drawing in an iron asteroid! I think that they probably see it as the closest possible estimate since it is likely based on a series of smaller estimates. George Nicula - Original Message - From: David Freeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: George N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids Dear Survey says: If no people have ever been killed from an impact then.isn't it all just a guess? Odds of something falling I can see as it is time related but of killing people, that would be odd since landing in siberia would be different then Muskogee...where did someone come up with that anyways? I don't see how they can figure odds unless they took total earth population, and total surface area and time between events, surely would be easier to find a needle in a haystack than come up with any competent and realistic odds. Davescarednot George N. wrote: They are taking into account that at least several thousand people will likely be killed in one instance. That effects the odds greatly. Example: if an asteroid struck today and killed 12,500 people. Then the odds would be accurate. George Nicula - Original Message - From:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Astronomers Survey Sky For Big Asteroids Your answer is at the bottom of the following webpage. http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/~jahern/impacts/ http://geowww.gcn.ou.edu/%7Ejahern/impacts/ If the odds of dying of an asteroid/comet strike are 20,000 to 1, wouldn't that mean that 12,500 people (out of the USA's 250,000,000) figure to die that way? There is something wrong with this (surely), what is it? Gregory __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] UA Scientists Begin Field Work on Chicxulub Drilling Project
http://uanews.opi.arizona.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/UANews.woa/wa/SRStoryDetails?ArticleID=4715 UA SCIENTISTS BEGIN FIELD WORK ON CHICXULUB DRILLING PROJECT From Lori Stiles, UA News Services, 520-621-1877 January 14, 2002 University of Arizona scientists in the next week or two will begin field work on the Chicxulub Scientific Drilling Project (CSDP) near Merida, Yucatan, Mexico -- an international project to core 1.8 kilometers into an immense crater created by the impact of an asteroid or comet 65 million years ago. The Cretaceous-Tertiary (K/T) impact is thought to have led to one of the greatest mass extinctions in Earth history, including dinosaur extinction. The impact generated ten thousand times more energy than in the world's nuclear arsenal, and six million times more energy than the 1980 Mount St. Helens volcanic eruption. This is a very special collaboration with our neighbors in Mexico and highlights the success of international cooperation among scientists throughout the world, said David A. Kring, UA associate professor of planetary sciences and co-investigator in the CSDP. We appreciate the opportunity to work with our colleagues from UNAM and ICDP member-nations. Universidad Nacional Autonoma de Mexico (UNAM) is the lead institution on the project. Kring collaborates closely with Jaime Urrutia Fucugauchi of the UNAM Instituto de Geofisica, who directs the drilling project. Other principal investigators include Dante Moran Zenteno (UNAM), Virgil Sharpton (University of Alaska), Richard Buffler (University of Texas), Dieter Stoeffler (Humbolt-Universitat zu Berlin, Germany) and Jan Smit (Vrije University, Netherlands). The hypothesis that a meteorite impact caused the demise of the dinosaurs and consequently, perhaps paved the way for mammalian evolution has been one of the most important recent findings in Earth sciences, said UA College of Science Dean Joaquin Ruiz, professor of geosciences. Discovering what the object was and the details of the impact is very important, he added. The fact that the University of Arizona has one of the leading investigators in the field testifies to the quality of science that goes on at this institution. Ruiz and Rene Drucker, UNAM coordinator of scientific investigation, tomorrow (Jan. 15) in Mexico City will sign a memoradum of understanding that will facilitate and pay for the exchange of students and faculty on this project and future projects involving UA College of Science departments. The Chicxulub Scientific Drilling Project is being run under the auspices of the International Continental Scientific Drilling Program (ICDP), headquartered in Potsdam, Germany. In addition to Mexico, Germany, and the United States, nations funding ICDP operations include Canada, China, Japan, and Poland. Corporate affiliates include UNESCO, the international Ocean Drilling Program, and Schlumberger Inc. Kring and undergraduate geosciences major Jake Bailey will join operations at the Yaxcopoil-1 site, 40 kilometers southwest of the province's capital, Merida. Ruiz will visit the site in a few weeks on a future trip to Mexico. Workers cleared the site of vegetation, constructed a well to supply water to the drilling rig, and installed the drilling rig in November and early December. The governor of Yucatan, UNAM scientists and officials, and a German delegation inaugurated the project with opening ceremonies on Dec.3. Actual drilling began Dec. 12, and the crew reached impact breccias late last week. We expect to reach the 1.8-kilometer (one and one-tenth mile) depth after 69 days of drilling, Kring said, at a cost of $1.5 million from the ICDP. We planned to hit rocks in the crater between 500 meters (1,640 feet) and one kilometer (3,280 feet), then continue through the impact crater itself -- through breccias and the impact melt layer -- all the way down to continental crust bedrock. If we succeed in getting more funds, we'll core down to 2.5 kilometers (1 and a half miles), he added. The hypothesis that an asteroid or comet impact caused K/T mass extinction was first proposed in 1980 by Nobel laureate Luis Alvarez, his geologist son, Walter, and others at the University of California-Berkeley. Kring was one of seven scientists who confirmed the highly controversial theory in the early 1990s. During oil exploration, PEMEX geophysicists Antonio Carmargo-Zanoguera and Glen Penfield identified the Chicxulub structure as a possible impact crater. Alan Hildebrand of the University of Calgary (then a UA graduate student), Kring, and UA planetary sciences professor William Boynton, working with Penfield, Carmargo-Z., Mark Pilkington of the Canadian Geological Survey and Stein Jacobsen from Harvard University, confirmed with petrologic and geochemical studies that the 180-kilometer (110-mile) diameter Chicxulub structure was indeed formed by giant asteroid or comet impact. Scientists will analyze cores for details on exactly how the Chicxulub impact
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[meteorite-list] a smile from ScienceMall-USA 3
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[meteorite-list] Ibbenbüren
Hello to all members ! I am looking for a piece of the Ibbenbüren meteorite. Is anybody able to help me getting this one ? Even a small fragment will be helpful. Please contact me offlist. Greetings from Austria Christian Anger IMCA # 2673 email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Versendet durch Jet2Web Internet - Webmail (webmail.jet2web.net) __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
