[meteorite-list] Jeff's online meteorite listing

[Robert Verish]

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[meteorite-list] Jeff's online meteorite listing 

Matson, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Thu, 18 Jul 2002 14:09:31 -0700 

Hi Jeff,

I want to echo Bob's kudos -- your website tally is a
nice on-line source of quick classification data.  I
found a few California entries that can be updated:

SNIP!

Cheers,
Rob
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Hello Jeff and List,
I just wanted to add one more thing.  And I'm sure
most readers of Rob Matson's post understood that the
"updates" weren't meant to be any form of criticism. 
But just in case, I would like to make it clear that
Jeff is in no way remiss for not having knowledge of
those "updated classifications".  Mainly, because they
haven't been published, yet.
So, aside from Alan Rubin and me, and the few people
that I shared these "results" with, such as Rob, no
one else could have knowledge of these "updated
classifications".  

But wait, that's not quite true.  I did supply all of
these "updates" to Sara Russell , the Met. Bulletin
editor, but she declined to forward them to the
Nomenclature Committee for review, saying that it
would be better for reviewing and referencing purposes
to have all of these "updates" published somewhere. 
She suggested that I write up some abstracts.  And I
agreed.  So, I went and wrote 6 abstracts and
submitted them for the 65th Annual Met. Soc. Meeting,
but they all got turned down!  Their explanation -
they are prohibited from accepting abstracts that
don't conform to the nomenclature and classification
as published in the Meteoritical Bulletin [period]  

Crikey, mate!  It's a "Catch-22"!   And worse, it was
too late to go back to the Nomenclature Committee -
the deadline had expired (because it was months
earlier this year).  Now, I don't want to give the
impression that I was just being "jerked around" and
that I was being treated as some sort of "bothersome
collector", because this was actually all a result of
bad timing and being a victim of circumstances. 
Nevertheless, I did fail to get all this information
into the Meteoritical Bulletin (THIS year;-).  But
I'll try again NEXT year, and much earlier.  So, I
just wanted to say all of this "in my defense",
because I don't want to be accused of "sitting on
data".

Okay, some of you may say, "Why didn't you let Alan
Rubin handle all of this?"  Simple. Because it's not
his job.  Besides, I was the "stake-holder" in this
effort. What I mean is, this effort was initiated by
me and the effort in tracking down these "historical"
California meteorites, and acquiring/trading samples,
was entirely mine.  And, in the end, I succeeded in
getting to Alan Rubin a sample from each of the last
few uncharacterized California stony meteorites.  And
it wasn't just for the sake of getting the last few
unclassified California meteorites a proper
characterization.  It was for purposes of determining
pairing with recent meteorite finds that I (and some
of my colleagues) had made, before we could request
proper names from the Nomenclature Committee.  This is
what I meant by me being the "stake-holder".  

So, Jeff K., it's your decision.  Go ahead and make
the changes, anticipating that this time next year
they will appear in the Meteoritical Bulletin, or keep
what you have and only make changes after publication
of  reclassifications.  (Or you can think about adding
the phrase, "Pending Reclassification" or "Pending Nom
Comm Approval":-)

But I will point out one potential complication.  Say,
you revise your list with the "anticipated"
reclassifications, but Bernd (and other independent
database keepers) DON'T, then we're not all "working
off of the same page"...  ?  How widely divergent will
all of these databases become?  And where do you draw
the line?

And finally, should you go ahead with the changes now,
then you should feel equally comfortable with moving
Gold Basin from the L4 column to the L6 column!! 
;-)))

Bob V.

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[meteorite-list] New complete on-line listing of
Meteorites. 

Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:02:59 +1000 

G'day List,

After many, many, many hours and much frustration I
have finally completed a list of all meteorites
arranged by classification and put it on my website.
It is simply the names of meteorites by their
classification and in alphabetical order. I have
omitted some Antarctic meteorites, however there
are probably a couple of thousand desert meteorites
(eg. NWA, DAG, Dho etc).
I have endeavoured to make the list as complete and
accurate as possible however if anyone finds a
mistake, (double-up, wrong class, etc) please let me
know. I have found it very useful for my own personal
use and I hope others will get just as much use.

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
I.M.C.A. #3085
www.meteoritesaustralia.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver, Jeff's website

[Rosemary Hackney]

Did not Know...Thanks..
 
This was given to be by a friend in 
Denver..
 
Rosie

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  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 11:55 
  PM
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  Jeff's website
  In a message dated 
  7/18/2002 10:25:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 
  
  the addy for the shows are at  http://mzexpos.com/ Tried to link it 
to my web page but had trouble anchoring it. But in Denver, 
  the Main Show in the Merchandise Mart is not a MZ (Martin Zinn) Expo. The 
  MZ Expo is in the Holiday Inn, down the street. Anne Black 
  IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver, Jeff's website

[Impactika]

In a message dated 7/18/2002 10:25:07 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


the addy for the shows are at  http://mzexpos.com/
 
Tried to link it to my web page but had trouble anchoring it.


But in Denver, the Main Show in the Merchandise Mart is not a MZ (Martin Zinn) Expo.
The MZ Expo is in the Holiday Inn, down the street.
 

Anne Black
IMCA #2356
www.IMPACTIKA.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver, Jeff's website

[Rosemary Hackney]

the addy for the shows are at  http://mzexpos.com
 
Tried to link it to my web page but had trouble 
anchoring it.
 
Rosie

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  From: 
  Mark 
  Bostick 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 9:21 
  PM
  Subject: [meteorite-list] Denver, Jeff's 
  website
  
  Hello Everybody,
   
  It's been a busy summer so I have not had the 
  chance to e-mail the list lately (Chased a couple meteor-wrongs...and explored 
  a couple impact sites).  
   
  Does anyone know what weekend the meteorite 
  events will be going on.  I know last year the show's offical start was 
  the 14th I think.. I'm planning a trip to New York right 
  before Denver.
   
  I also wanted to say "Good Job" to Jeff Kuygen on 
  his meteorite classification webpage to his meteorite site.    
  
   
  Mark Bostick "The Big 
Collector"

[meteorite-list] * SALE * CAMPO ON eBay * SALE *

[Michael Casper]

http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=caspercoin.com

[meteorite-list] Well Crap...New Denver link

[David Freeman]

Dear disappointed-in-my-link-ers:
Try this one, the link to the Colorado clubs didn't click through.
http://www.denvermineralshow.comand I hope this one works, it came 
from the busted link that worked before I typed it in.
MainframeDave F.



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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show

[David Freeman]

Dear Fellow associates of sky rocks;
Here is a very nice link: 
 http://www.peaktopeak.com/minerals/nfeffco/2002/sept02.htm   and it 
will get you to the show on time.  Also located there are clubs and 
activities for a number of months in the state of Colorado.  I think the 
promoters and organizers may be located from other pages there too.
Best Rocks,
Dave Freeman   ( who shall not rhyme this time)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In a message dated 7/18/2002 8:27:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
>
>> Does anyone know what weekend the meteorite events will be going on. 
>>  I know last year the show's offical start was the 14th I think.. I'm 
>> planning a trip to New York right before Denver.
>
>
>
> Hello Mark, and everybody.
>
> The Official Denver Show will be Friday September 13 to Sunday 
> September 15.
> In fact people start arriving the preceding weekend.
> Let me know if you have any questions regarding Denver or the Show.
>
> And now we can start planning!
>
> Anne Black
> IMCA #2356
> www.IMPACTIKA.com
> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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Re: [meteorite-list] Denver Show

[Impactika]

In a message dated 7/18/2002 8:27:46 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


Does anyone know what weekend the meteorite events will be going on.  I know last year the show's offical start was the 14th I think.. I'm planning a trip to New York right before Denver.
 

Hello Mark, and everybody.

The Official Denver Show will be Friday September 13 to Sunday September 15.
In fact people start arriving the preceding weekend. 
Let me know if you have any questions regarding Denver or the Show. 

And now we can start planning!

Anne Black
IMCA #2356
www.IMPACTIKA.com
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Denver, Jeff's website

[Mark Bostick]

Hello Everybody,
 
It's been a busy summer so I have not had the 
chance to e-mail the list lately (Chased a couple meteor-wrongs...and explored a 
couple impact sites).  
 
Does anyone know what weekend the meteorite events 
will be going on.  I know last year the show's offical start was the 14th I 
think.. I'm planning a trip to New York right before Denver.
 
I also wanted to say "Good Job" to Jeff Kuygen on 
his meteorite classification webpage to his meteorite site.    

 
Mark Bostick "The Big 
Collector"

[meteorite-list] Chicken Little

[ARJAYD]

An amateur star gazer named "Little"
was staring skyward one night,
amazed at the Autumn's full moon,
his feathers reflecting the light.

Satellites crossing the skyways,
evidence of man's high tech,
when a giant ball of light grew,
from just a tiny light speck.
 
Terrified, he started running,
and squawking, "The sky is falling"
his fellow chickens were laughing
such stupidity was so appaling.

No sooner had the laughter started,
the meteor loomed overhead,
and that's the end of the story,
the entire chicken coops dead.

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[Fwd: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite]

[ROCKS ON FIRE]

Hi, Rob,
congratulations to that beautiful Dalgaranga specimen, I envy you. It is
for sure very rare, and we do not get an export permit for that stuff here
Down-Under.
I myself have got a fair bit of  highly weathered Dalgaranga mesosiderite,
nothing as beautiful as yours.
If you are interested to have a look, here you find them:  http://www.rocksonfire.com/met-ex-da05.htm
 and http://www.rocksonfire.com/met-ex-da04.htm
To all of you, best regards from Down-Under,
Norbert F. Kammel
IMCA #3420
www.rocksonfire.com

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  Date: 
  Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:43:53 EDT


  From: 
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  To: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  




Hi folks,

 during my meteorite travels in Chicago last week, I picked up a great looking
Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was reliably informed
by the curator that "this is the only metallic specimen of Dalgaranga in
existence", with all the remaining 10kg being shale and completely oxidised
mesosiderite. If that's the case, I'm well pleased to be the present owner,
but does anyone know if that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga specimens
out there?
 I've linked through to some pictures below that I thought you might like
to see. It's an oriented specimen with fine flow lines over the "dome"...the
rollover lip is just about there, but has suffered from weathering somewhat.
The backside obviously once contained silicate inclusions, but these have
either weathered out to leave pockets, or simply didn't survive being torn
off the larger mass in flight. David Weir suggested to me that this mostly
iron individual was once a metallic nodule, ripped away from it's surrounding
stony matrix in flight, and it's certainly looking that way.
 I ground a small corner this afternoon and etched the polished face to reveal
a very fine Widmanstatten pattern, similar to the figures which appear on
the metal blebs in my Estherville slice, plus a couple of tiny silicate inclusions.
 Here's the pictures.enjoy! :-)

 http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga1.jpg

 http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga2.jpg

 http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga3.jpg

 http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga4.jpg

 By the way, I loved Chicago and even managed to catch a Cubs game at Wrigley
FieldI made it as far as the 7th Innings Stretch, but didn't know the
lyrics to "take me out to the ball game", much to everyone's relief!

 Cheers,
 Rob Elliott.
 www.meteorites.uk.com
 Fernlea Meteorites,
 The Wynd,
 Off Dickson Lane,
 Milton of Balgonie,
 Fife. KY7 6PY
 United Kingdom
 Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563
 Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991
 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[Southwest Meteorite Lab]

Hello All.

That is a
beautiful individual. Dalgaranga is a very nice meteorite and very stable. I
think it is by far my favorite meso. I decided to quickly put up a picture of
one of the larger pieces of dalgaranga that we have in our personal collection.


 

http://www.meteorite-lab.com/dalgaranga_b.htm


 

 

Marvin and Kitty Killgore

Southwest Meteorite Lab

PO Box 95

Payson, AZ 85547

PH.928.474.9515

FAX.928.474.2474

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Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

 

Hi
folks,

during my meteorite travels in Chicago last week, I picked up a great looking
Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was reliably informed
by the curator that "this is the only metallic specimen of Dalgaranga in
existence", with all the remaining 10kg being shale and completely
oxidised mesosiderite. If that's the case, I'm well pleased to be the present
owner, but does anyone know if that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga
specimens out there?
I've linked through to some pictures below that I thought you might like to
see. It's an oriented specimen with fine flow lines over the
"dome"...the rollover lip is just about there, but has suffered from
weathering somewhat. The backside obviously once contained silicate inclusions,
but these have either weathered out to leave pockets, or simply didn't survive
being torn off the larger mass in flight. David Weir suggested to me that this
mostly iron individual was once a metallic nodule, ripped away from it's
surrounding stony matrix in flight, and it's certainly looking that way.
I ground a small corner this afternoon and etched the polished face to reveal a
very fine Widmanstatten pattern, similar to the figures which appear on the
metal blebs in my Estherville slice, plus a couple of tiny silicate inclusions.
Here's the pictures.enjoy! :-)

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga1.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga2.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga3.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga4.jpg

By the way, I loved Chicago and even managed to catch a Cubs game at Wrigley
FieldI made it as far as the 7th Innings Stretch, but didn't know the
lyrics to "take me out to the ball game", much to everyone's relief!

Cheers,
Rob Elliott.
www.meteorites.uk.com
Fernlea Meteorites,
The Wynd,
Off Dickson Lane,
Milton of Balgonie,
Fife. KY7 6PY
United Kingdom
Tel: +44-(0)1592-751563
Fax: +44-(0)1592-751991
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Meteorites for Sale

[Walter Branch]

Hello Everyone,
 
I recently cut some micros from some of my larger 
stone slices and I don't need the larger ones anymore as I have decided to 
expand my micro collection (if anyone is interested in trading micros, let me 
know - I will have some on my website in a few days).  Here is what I have 
(my collection has really gotten low), in addition to a nice endpiece of Chinga 
and some Sikhote-Alin shrapnel.
 
Chinga, Ataxite, 105.73 grams, $60.00
Nice mirror like etch and I coated it with a 
clear coat to inhibit rust.
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/chinga1.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/chinga2.jpg
 
 
Millbillillie, Eucrite
26.35 grams, $368.00
I got this one to eventually cut into micros, but 
when I saw the fantastic flow lines on it, I just don't have the heart to cut 
it.  Look at the sort of spider web pattern of flow lines.  It also 
has a small rollover lip on the underside, which means...!
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/mill1.jpg
 
 
Two pieces of Sikhote-Alin Shrapnel.  Nice 
forms. This one is 133.5 grams and is  $22.00
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/shrap1.jpg
 
and this second one is 79 grams and is 
$13.00
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/shrap2.jpg
 
 
Zag, H3-4, 83.24 grams, $44.00
Another stone from which I recently cut 
micros.  Nice stone with nice crust (about 60%) at a nice 
price. 
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/zag1.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/zag2.jpg
 
Tulia (a) H 3/4 109.81 grams 
- $75.00
VERY nice polished slice.  I cut some great 
looking micros from this recently.  Very thick (6mm). Polished on both 
sides.
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/tulia.jpg
 
Kaufman L5, 77.72 grams, $115.00
Another nicely polished slice from which I recently 
cut micros.  beautiful 4mm thick slice with armoured 
chondrules
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/temp/kaufman.jpg
 
Shipping is extra.  These are the last of 
these that I have.  What doesn't sell here get placed on ebay.
 
-Walter---Walter Branch, 
Ph.D.Branch Meteorites322 Stephenson Ave., Suite BSavannah, GA  
31405 USAwww.branchmeteorites.com

[meteorite-list] Jeff's online meteorite listing

[Matson, Robert]

Hi Jeff,

I want to echo Bob's kudos -- your website tally is a nice on-line
source of quick classification data.  I found a few California entries
that can be updated:

Dale Dry Lake - L3.7, S3, W2  Fa 15.7 +/- 9.2
(you have it listed as "L")

Muroc - L5, S3, W2  Fa 25.0 +/- 0.1
(you also have this listed as "L")

Twentynine Palms -- there are actually two stones:  Twentynine Palms #1
found in 1944 and Twentynine Palms #2 found in 1955.  They may be
paired.  Both are L6, S4, W2.  #1 has Fa 25.1 +/- 0.3, and #2 has
Fa 25.0 +/- 0.6.

Zulu Queen - L3.7, S3  Fa 15-27, peak 25 (you have this under L3)

Ridgecrest - H5, S2, W2  Fa 18.6 +/- 0.2 (you have it listed as
unclassified)

Cheers,
Rob

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Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement For Meteorite Curator At JohnsonSpace Center

[Tracy Latimer]

I wish I were qualified to apply... if I got the job, though, it would
mean having to leave Maui...:-(

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[meteorite-list] Remembering Flight 93 and ... (Off-Topic)

[Bernd Pauli HD]

Hello All,

Just back from watching an American documentary about  F l i g h t  93
on our German Discovery Channel. Saw all the horrible scenes again but
had to keep on watching. Saw that loving mother and stewardess, saw the
loving father, saw young Mrs. Miller who, after having said good-bye to
her boy-friend because they had to take different flights, turned around
a last time to tell him she loved him, saw that loving son of a mother
who is still grieving and saw those again who did it and those who have
been pulling the strings.

For those here in Germany and neighboring countries who
would like to watch this documentary, it will be aired again:

Friday 13:30 hrs
Saturday 16:30 hrs
Sunday 04:30 hrs


Bernd

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[meteorite-list] (no subject)

[Robert Verish]

Hey Jeff!!

Great job.  I'm very impressed.

Your web page is prominantly bookmarked on my browser
for ready access.  It will be very handy.

Bob V.

P.S. - You even have Lucerne Valley 013 as an "L5-6"
which reflects it's "undecided" classification, which
is a result of the Met. Bull. editors unfortunate use
of the word "classification" instead of
"reclassified".  I believe the latter entry (L5) was
intended to supercede the former entry (L6) for LV
013.  This is the entry in Met. Bull. 85:

"Lucerne Valley 013, classification
Lucerne Valley (LV) 013 has now been classified by A.
Rubin (UCLA) as L5, shock stage S2, weathering grade
W3. LV 013 is probably paired with LV 014 and LV 016."

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[meteorite-list] New complete on-line listing of
Meteorites. 

Jeff Kuyken [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Fri, 19 Jul 2002 04:02:59 +1000 

G'day List,

After many, many, many hours and much frustration I
have finally completed a list of all meteorites
arranged by classification and put it on my website.
It is simply the names of meteorites by their
classification and in alphabetical order. I have
omitted some Antarctic meteorites, however there
are probably a couple of thousand desert meteorites
(eg. NWA, DAG, Dho etc).
I have endeavoured to make the list as complete and
accurate as possible however if anyone finds a
mistake, (double-up, wrong class, etc) please let me
know. I have found it very useful for my own personal
use and I hope others will get just as much use.

Thanks,

Jeff Kuyken
I.M.C.A. #3085
www.meteoritesaustralia.com





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Re: [meteorite-list] Announcement For Meteorite Curator At Johnson Space Center

[Michael Farmer]

ME ME, ill apply! :)
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Announcement For Meteorite Curator At Johnson
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>
> Forwarded from Cecilia Satterwhite ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
>
> ANNOUNCEMENT FOR METEORITE CURATOR
>
> The NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston, Texas is recruiting for a
> Planetary Scientist to fill the position of Curator for Antarctic
> Meteorites.  The position incumbent will be hired as a full time United
> States civil servant and therefore must be a United States citizen.
> Position level and salary will be determined by qualifications and
> experience.
>
> The Antarctic Meteorite Curator oversees the processing, distribution, and
> secure storage of thousands of meteorites collected under the NASA/ NSF
> /Smithsonian Antarctic Search for Meteorites program.  The Curator
regularly
> makes scientific decisions regarding meteorite allocations and is also
> involved in formulating national and international policies concerning
> activities in Antarctica.
>
> The Antarctic Meteorite Curator should be an active investigator in a
field
> of Planetary Geology related to the study of meteorites.  He or she should
> have an established record of completed research and publication.  The
> Curator will be expected to conduct studies in existing JSC laboratories,
> participate in collaborative investigations with outside investigators,
and
> successfully propose to NASA research funding opportunities.
>
> If you are interested, please submit a letter of inquiry and resume or CV
to
> Dr. Carlton C. Allen, JSC Astromaterials Curator, by Wednesday, July 31,
> 2002.  Three transmission methods are acceptable:
>
>
> 1.  Via email to:
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>
>  2. Via fax to:
> Dr. Carlton C. Allen
> 281-483-5347
>
> 3.  Via U. S. Mail to:
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[meteorite-list] Announcement For Meteorite Curator At Johnson Space Center

[Ron Baalke]

Forwarded from Cecilia Satterwhite ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

ANNOUNCEMENT FOR METEORITE CURATOR

The NASA Johnson Space Center (JSC) in Houston, Texas is recruiting for a
Planetary Scientist to fill the position of Curator for Antarctic
Meteorites.  The position incumbent will be hired as a full time United
States civil servant and therefore must be a United States citizen.
Position level and salary will be determined by qualifications and
experience.

The Antarctic Meteorite Curator oversees the processing, distribution, and
secure storage of thousands of meteorites collected under the NASA/ NSF
/Smithsonian Antarctic Search for Meteorites program.  The Curator regularly
makes scientific decisions regarding meteorite allocations and is also
involved in formulating national and international policies concerning
activities in Antarctica.

The Antarctic Meteorite Curator should be an active investigator in a field
of Planetary Geology related to the study of meteorites.  He or she should
have an established record of completed research and publication.  The
Curator will be expected to conduct studies in existing JSC laboratories,
participate in collaborative investigations with outside investigators, and
successfully propose to NASA research funding opportunities.

If you are interested, please submit a letter of inquiry and resume or CV to
Dr. Carlton C. Allen, JSC Astromaterials Curator, by Wednesday, July 31,
2002.  Three transmission methods are acceptable:


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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Burning Object Seen Over Kentucky

[Rosemary Hackney]

o...k...

I got sucked up into the popcorn gathering machine??  kewl.

Rosie
- Original Message - 
From: "E.P. Grondine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 2:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Burning Object Seen Over Kentucky


> Hello Rosemary, all - 
> 
> The best explanation for this phenomena which I have
> heard comes from guitar goddess Cathy Horner - 
> 
> It seems that the signals which broadcast all of those
> old television shows are finally reaching far away
> star systems.  The result is that the inhabitants of
> those star systems have developed a powerful craving
> for popcorn to eat while watching those shows - 
> 
> Now every so often they send over a ship to gather up
> popcorn from fields - but seeing the ships, the locals
> get curious and decide to investigate - with the
> result that they get sucked up into the popcorn
> gathering mechanisms - 
> 
> Now as this generally makes a mess of things, the
> visitors have decided that to discourage this activity
> by subjecting to probes those curious earthlings who
> get sucked up in their harvestors - 
> 
> :p)
> ep
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- Rosemary Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well.. hmm.. there have been notable sitings in
> > Kentucky and Tennessee
> > lately. As I remember "something" crashed not too
> > long ago and the place was
> > cordoned off and a lot of clean up activity was seen
> > ..for a bogey. I
> > remember seeing something that looked like an
> > aircraft falling out of the
> > sky in the general direction at the time.. Do not
> > know if it is related. As
> > a member of Civil Air Patrol I called headquarters
> > to see if there were any
> > missing craft. This was odd looking for sure.
> > 
> > Also A crop circle was found near the Ky/Tn border
> > in  White House , TN.
> > Several UFOs have been seen around Memphis area.
> > 
> > So know knows.
> > 
> > Rosie ( TN mufon )
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Meteorite Mailing List"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:01 AM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Burning Object Seen Over
> > Kentucky
> > 
> > 
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.cknj.com/cknj/myarticles.asp?P=374108&S=496&PubID=7014&EC=0
> > >
> > > County averages one sighting per year
> > > James Roberts
> > > Central Kentucky News-Journal
> > > July 16, 2002
> > >
> > > An unidentified flying object sighting near the
> > Nally & Gibson rock quarry
> > > was probably a meteor or unusually bright star.
> > >
> > > On June 21, an anonymous caller reported a UFO
> > near the quarry at 11:23
> > p.m.
> > >
> > > According to the 911 report, the caller described
> > the object as "some type
> > > of space debris." The caller also said that the
> > object "burned up as it
> > > entered the atmosphere."
> > >
> > > Taylor County Sheriff's Deputy Aaron Walters
> > investigated the report but
> > > found nothing, according to Campbellsville Police
> > Chief Bill Cassell.
> > >
> > > "It could have been a crank call. It could have
> > been real. We don't know,"
> > > Cassell said.
> > >
> > > Walters could not be reached for comment but,
> > Chief Deputy Allen Newton,
> > who
> > > was on duty that night, said it was just a bright
> > star. Nothing fell to
> > the
> > > ground.
> > >
> > > "This may have been the same person that called [a
> > UFO sighting] in two or
> > > three years ago," he said.
> > >
> > > That sighting was also just a bright star, Newton
> > said.
> > >
> > > Kenny Young, an investigator with the Kentucky
> > chapter of the Mutual UFO
> > > Network, said that it is unlikely that the
> > sighting was UFO related.
> > >
> > > "That an officer responding to the call would make
> > note of a bright star
> > > does not suggest anything unusual unless he made
> > specific note that this
> > was
> > > something other than a star," Young said.
> > >
> > > The caller's description of burning space debris
> > does not alert Young to
> > > anything unusual either.
> > >
> > > "I see no immediate reason to equate this with a
> > UFO-related event," he
> > > said. "That being said, it is quite unusual for
> > someone to notify local
> > law
> > > enforcement regarding their observation of
> > incoming meteoric debris or
> > > re-entry of space debris."
> > >
> > > However, Young admits that he is interested in the
> > sighting.
> > >
> > > "I have been following a number of unusual UFO
> > sighting reports around
> > > Kentucky in the last few months," he said. "In the
> > past two months there
> > > have been a number of UFO claims from some
> > residents in Louisa, Ky., and
> > > other areas in east-central Kentucky that were
> > reported to the National
> > UFO
> > > reporting center."
> > >
> > > A sighting caught on tape by a Lexington TV crew
> > was likely an
> > > unusually-shape balloon, Young said. A report of
> > an object landing near
> > Fort
> > > Knox was unverified.

[meteorite-list] Re: Burning Object Seen Over Kentucky

[E.P. Grondine]

Hello Rosemary, all - 

The best explanation for this phenomena which I have
heard comes from guitar goddess Cathy Horner - 

It seems that the signals which broadcast all of those
old television shows are finally reaching far away
star systems.  The result is that the inhabitants of
those star systems have developed a powerful craving
for popcorn to eat while watching those shows - 

Now every so often they send over a ship to gather up
popcorn from fields - but seeing the ships, the locals
get curious and decide to investigate - with the
result that they get sucked up into the popcorn
gathering mechanisms - 

Now as this generally makes a mess of things, the
visitors have decided that to discourage this activity
by subjecting to probes those curious earthlings who
get sucked up in their harvestors - 

:p)
ep







--- Rosemary Hackney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well.. hmm.. there have been notable sitings in
> Kentucky and Tennessee
> lately. As I remember "something" crashed not too
> long ago and the place was
> cordoned off and a lot of clean up activity was seen
> ..for a bogey. I
> remember seeing something that looked like an
> aircraft falling out of the
> sky in the general direction at the time.. Do not
> know if it is related. As
> a member of Civil Air Patrol I called headquarters
> to see if there were any
> missing craft. This was odd looking for sure.
> 
> Also A crop circle was found near the Ky/Tn border
> in  White House , TN.
> Several UFOs have been seen around Memphis area.
> 
> So know knows.
> 
> Rosie ( TN mufon )
> - Original Message -
> From: "Ron Baalke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Meteorite Mailing List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2002 11:01 AM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Burning Object Seen Over
> Kentucky
> 
> 
> >
> >
> >
>
http://www.cknj.com/cknj/myarticles.asp?P=374108&S=496&PubID=7014&EC=0
> >
> > County averages one sighting per year
> > James Roberts
> > Central Kentucky News-Journal
> > July 16, 2002
> >
> > An unidentified flying object sighting near the
> Nally & Gibson rock quarry
> > was probably a meteor or unusually bright star.
> >
> > On June 21, an anonymous caller reported a UFO
> near the quarry at 11:23
> p.m.
> >
> > According to the 911 report, the caller described
> the object as "some type
> > of space debris." The caller also said that the
> object "burned up as it
> > entered the atmosphere."
> >
> > Taylor County Sheriff's Deputy Aaron Walters
> investigated the report but
> > found nothing, according to Campbellsville Police
> Chief Bill Cassell.
> >
> > "It could have been a crank call. It could have
> been real. We don't know,"
> > Cassell said.
> >
> > Walters could not be reached for comment but,
> Chief Deputy Allen Newton,
> who
> > was on duty that night, said it was just a bright
> star. Nothing fell to
> the
> > ground.
> >
> > "This may have been the same person that called [a
> UFO sighting] in two or
> > three years ago," he said.
> >
> > That sighting was also just a bright star, Newton
> said.
> >
> > Kenny Young, an investigator with the Kentucky
> chapter of the Mutual UFO
> > Network, said that it is unlikely that the
> sighting was UFO related.
> >
> > "That an officer responding to the call would make
> note of a bright star
> > does not suggest anything unusual unless he made
> specific note that this
> was
> > something other than a star," Young said.
> >
> > The caller's description of burning space debris
> does not alert Young to
> > anything unusual either.
> >
> > "I see no immediate reason to equate this with a
> UFO-related event," he
> > said. "That being said, it is quite unusual for
> someone to notify local
> law
> > enforcement regarding their observation of
> incoming meteoric debris or
> > re-entry of space debris."
> >
> > However, Young admits that he is interested in the
> sighting.
> >
> > "I have been following a number of unusual UFO
> sighting reports around
> > Kentucky in the last few months," he said. "In the
> past two months there
> > have been a number of UFO claims from some
> residents in Louisa, Ky., and
> > other areas in east-central Kentucky that were
> reported to the National
> UFO
> > reporting center."
> >
> > A sighting caught on tape by a Lexington TV crew
> was likely an
> > unusually-shape balloon, Young said. A report of
> an object landing near
> Fort
> > Knox was unverified.
> >
> > According to Dr. Anthony K. Grafton, a chemistry
> professor at
> Campbellsville
> > University, the caller's description and what the
> police observed may not
> be
> > the same thing.
> >
> > "A bright star could certainly catch someone's
> attention, but would not
> > likely appear to burn up as the caller stated,"
> Grafton said. "Bright
> > planets, particularly Venus, have often been the
> objects of UFO reports."
> >
> > Grafton said that what the caller saw was likely
> just man-made debris.
> >
> > "Thousands of pieces of man-made debris are
> orbiting the Earth, an

[meteorite-list] New complete on-line listing of Meteorites.

[Jeff Kuyken]

G'day List,

After many, many, many hours and much frustration I have finally completed a
list of all meteorites arranged by classification and put it on my website.
It is simply the names of meteorites by their classification and in
alphabetical order. I have omitted some Antarctic meteorites, however there
are probably a couple of thousand desert meteorites (eg. NWA, DAG, Dho etc).
I have endeavoured to make the list as complete and accurate as possible
however if anyone finds a mistake, (double-up, wrong class, etc) please let
me know. I have found it very useful for my own personal use and I hope
others will get just as much use.

Thanks,

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Re: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[FRANK B CRESSY]

Hello Bernd, Rob, and all,

I believe the 207 fragments collected in 1960 were those collected by Huss
and Nininger. There's a bit more information on Nininger's trip on page 215
of "Find a Falling Star".
Regards,
Frank

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From: Bernd Pauli HD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2002 10:32 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite


> Rob wrote:
>
> > Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was
> > reliably informed by the curator that "this is the only metallic
> > specimen of Dalgaranga in existence", with all the remaining 10 kg
> > being shale and completely oxidised mesosiderite. If that's the case,
> > I'm well pleased to be the present owner, but does anyone know if
> > that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga specimens out there?
>
> Hello Rob and List,
>
> It's fairly consistent with what the Catalogue says. One specimen of
> 40 g was preserved in the Simpson collection. During a search in 1960,
> not in but around the crater, 207 fragments were recovered, total
> weight 1.1 kg. The largest weighed 57g and about half of the 1.1 kg
> were oxidised irons and half mesosiderite. Within the crater 280
> fragments, totalling about 20 lb were collected, all of which proved
> to be highly oxidised mesosiderites.
>
> So your specimen may be the one wrighing 40
> grams or the other one weighing 57 grams.
>
> > I've linked through to some pictures below
> > that I thought you might like to see.
>
> Congratulations! Beautiful, rare specimen!
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[Matteo Chinellato]

hello all

my Dalgaranga ;-)
http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/DALGARANGAGR.1.510.JPG

Matteo

--- Bernd Pauli HD
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rob wrote:
> 
> > Australian mesosiderite individual named
> Dalgaranga, and was
> > reliably informed by the curator that "this is the
> only metallic
> > specimen of Dalgaranga in existence", with all the
> remaining 10 kg
> > being shale and completely oxidised mesosiderite.
> If that's the case,
> > I'm well pleased to be the present owner, but does
> anyone know if
> > that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga
> specimens out there?
> 
> Hello Rob and List,
> 
> It's fairly consistent with what the Catalogue says.
> One specimen of
> 40 g was preserved in the Simpson collection. During
> a search in 1960,
> not in but around the crater, 207 fragments were
> recovered, total
> weight 1.1 kg. The largest weighed 57g and about
> half of the 1.1 kg
> were oxidised irons and half mesosiderite. Within
> the crater 280
> fragments, totalling about 20 lb were collected, all
> of which proved
> to be highly oxidised mesosiderites.
> 
> So your specimen may be the one wrighing 40
> grams or the other one weighing 57 grams.
> 
> > I've linked through to some pictures below
> > that I thought you might like to see.
> 
> Congratulations! Beautiful, rare specimen!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bernd
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[Michael Farmer]

Marvin Killgore had a large several hundred gram solid individual.
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Subject: [meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite


> Rob wrote:
> 
> > Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was
> > reliably informed by the curator that "this is the only metallic
> > specimen of Dalgaranga in existence", with all the remaining 10 kg
> > being shale and completely oxidised mesosiderite. If that's the case,
> > I'm well pleased to be the present owner, but does anyone know if
> > that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga specimens out there?
> 
> Hello Rob and List,
> 
> It's fairly consistent with what the Catalogue says. One specimen of
> 40 g was preserved in the Simpson collection. During a search in 1960,
> not in but around the crater, 207 fragments were recovered, total
> weight 1.1 kg. The largest weighed 57g and about half of the 1.1 kg
> were oxidised irons and half mesosiderite. Within the crater 280
> fragments, totalling about 20 lb were collected, all of which proved
> to be highly oxidised mesosiderites.
> 
> So your specimen may be the one wrighing 40
> grams or the other one weighing 57 grams.
> 
> > I've linked through to some pictures below
> > that I thought you might like to see.
> 
> Congratulations! Beautiful, rare specimen!
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Bernd
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[meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[Bernd Pauli HD]

Rob wrote:

> Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was
> reliably informed by the curator that "this is the only metallic
> specimen of Dalgaranga in existence", with all the remaining 10 kg
> being shale and completely oxidised mesosiderite. If that's the case,
> I'm well pleased to be the present owner, but does anyone know if
> that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga specimens out there?

Hello Rob and List,

It's fairly consistent with what the Catalogue says. One specimen of
40 g was preserved in the Simpson collection. During a search in 1960,
not in but around the crater, 207 fragments were recovered, total
weight 1.1 kg. The largest weighed 57g and about half of the 1.1 kg
were oxidised irons and half mesosiderite. Within the crater 280
fragments, totalling about 20 lb were collected, all of which proved
to be highly oxidised mesosiderites.

So your specimen may be the one wrighing 40
grams or the other one weighing 57 grams.

> I've linked through to some pictures below
> that I thought you might like to see.

Congratulations! Beautiful, rare specimen!


Cheers,

Bernd

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[meteorite-list] Dalgaranga Mesosiderite

[FERNLEA4]

Hi folks,

during my meteorite travels in Chicago last week, I picked up a great looking Australian mesosiderite individual named Dalgaranga, and was reliably informed by the curator that "this is the only metallic specimen of Dalgaranga in existence", with all the remaining 10kg being shale and completely oxidised mesosiderite. If that's the case, I'm well pleased to be the present owner, but does anyone know if that's so, or of any other metallic Dalgaranga specimens out there?
I've linked through to some pictures below that I thought you might like to see. It's an oriented specimen with fine flow lines over the "dome"...the rollover lip is just about there, but has suffered from weathering somewhat. The backside obviously once contained silicate inclusions, but these have either weathered out to leave pockets, or simply didn't survive being torn off the larger mass in flight. David Weir suggested to me that this mostly iron individual was once a metallic nodule, ripped away from it's surrounding stony matrix in flight, and it's certainly looking that way.
I ground a small corner this afternoon and etched the polished face to reveal a very fine Widmanstatten pattern, similar to the figures which appear on the metal blebs in my Estherville slice, plus a couple of tiny silicate inclusions.
Here's the pictures.enjoy! :-)

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga1.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga2.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga3.jpg

http://fernlea.tripod.com/dalgaranga4.jpg

By the way, I loved Chicago and even managed to catch a Cubs game at Wrigley FieldI made it as far as the 7th Innings Stretch, but didn't know the lyrics to "take me out to the ball game", much to everyone's relief!

Cheers,
Rob Elliott.
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[meteorite-list] REDUCED METEORITE PRICES

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Good morning list. I have reduced the price on the 7 meteorites I'm
selling. Here are the new prices!

1. MORASKO INDIVIDUAL 380 GRAMS   $200

2.BRAHIN SLICE32 GRAMS$100

3.VALERA END CUT  7.1 GRAMS   $50

4.ESTHERVILLE END CUT 30 GRAMS$100

5.WAGON MOUND SLICE   50 GRAMS$50

6. LABENNE 97096  EH3 3.7 GRAMS   $50

7.saU001 SLICE27 GRAMS$70

These prices are reduced from last time. So please let me know!

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[meteorite-list] Sudbury Set ends on eBay today

[Rob Wesel]

Hello all-
Just a reminder that the complete set of my best 
Sudbury material ends later today. From garnets to anthraxolite to melt glass, 
the largest, the finest and, in some cases, the last of it. Have a look as it 
will be some time before I can repeat such a set:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2121440086
Good day to ya,--Rob 
Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers 
of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971