[meteorite-list] Possible crater discovered in North Sea
Hi, Interesting news in today's issue of NATURE. On page 520-523, oil geologists S.A. Stewart and P.J. Allen report on the discovery of a burried possible impact crater in the southern North Sea basin, some 130 km offshore from the western British coast. The structure is 20 km wide, and probably some 60 million years old. Interestingly enough, it appears to be multiringed, which is considered unusual for a 20 km wide crater. Marco ref: Stewart S.A. Allen P.J.; A 20-km-diameter multi-ringed impact structure in the North Sea. Nature 418 (August 1, 2002), 420-523. __ Snel en gemakkelijk mailen? Gebruik Wanadoo Webmail || http://www.wanadoo.nl/webmail __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] new member introduction
Good Afternoon! I am a new member to the list and thought I would post a brief introduction of myself. I am Frederic Janik, 27 tomorrow, French but living in Finland for nearly 4 years. I am collecting space stuff, autographs and books from the early manned missions (pre-shuttle). On a related list, Walter Branch posted a message and in his signature was included a link to his website. After visiting it I realized how interesting a meteorites collection could be, and here I am , hooked. I made two purchases for the moment: - The Rocks from Space book - A 0.01g part slice of lunar meteorite Dho280 from Erich Haiderer. I haven't received any of those yet. I am thinking I will be mostly collecting micromount because of the tight budget and the lack of space, but I will as well try to get a nice iron meteorite individual. I hope to learn a lot from you guys! Have a nice day, Frédéric Janik __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new member introduction
Frederic, Welcome to the list! There is much to be learned about meteorites and the list can be an invaluable resource for you. My best, Thomas Webb On Thu, 1 Aug 2002, Fred wrote: Good Afternoon! I am a new member to the list and thought I would post a brief introduction of myself. I am Frederic Janik, 27 tomorrow, French but living in Finland for nearly 4 years. I am collecting space stuff, autographs and books from the early manned missions (pre-shuttle). On a related list, Walter Branch posted a message and in his signature was included a link to his website. After visiting it I realized how interesting a meteorites collection could be, and here I am , hooked. I made two purchases for the moment: - The Rocks from Space book - A 0.01g part slice of lunar meteorite Dho280 from Erich Haiderer. I haven't received any of those yet. I am thinking I will be mostly collecting micromount because of the tight budget and the lack of space, but I will as well try to get a nice iron meteorite individual. I hope to learn a lot from you guys! Have a nice day, Frédéric Janik __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new member introduction
Dear Fred; A warm welcome to you, and happy Birthday! I might suggest shopping for a piece of Gibeon iron and a couple of the North West African (NWA) smaller whole meteoritesboth are affordable in smaller quantities and the price will go up so they would make good investments for a starting collector. Another great book is Find a Falling Star by the late H. H. Nininger, some list members may sell it, it is an extremely warming book to the meteoritic-soul. Best Wishes, Dave Freeman Fred wrote: Good Afternoon! I am a new member to the list and thought I would post a brief introduction of myself. I am Frederic Janik, 27 tomorrow, French but living in Finland for nearly 4 years. I am collecting space stuff, autographs and books from the early manned missions (pre-shuttle). On a related list, Walter Branch posted a message and in his signature was included a link to his website. After visiting it I realized how interesting a meteorites collection could be, and here I am , hooked. I made two purchases for the moment: - The Rocks from Space book - A 0.01g part slice of lunar meteorite Dho280 from Erich Haiderer. I haven't received any of those yet. I am thinking I will be mostly collecting micromount because of the tight budget and the lack of space, but I will as well try to get a nice iron meteorite individual. I hope to learn a lot from you guys! Have a nice day, Frédéric Janik __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving
Hello, A lot of The Sikhote-Alin meteorites appear to have been gun blued. The same acid or staining compound used to make gun barrels darker or bluedthis has been my experience with some of these irons. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham - Original Message - From: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving List, First I want to thank John Gwilliam for his informative response about rusting chingas and Nantans. My question is in regard to Sikhotes that I've saw being sold in Tucson by various European dealers. The specimens looked exceptionally well preserved. No trace of rust. The color was so dark that they look painted. Does anyone know what process they used to get these super results? Thanks, Ken Newton #9632 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites From Vatican Collection On Display At California Planetarium
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4907576BRD=982PAG=461dept_id=467992rfi=6 Meteorites hit Cranbrook By BOB GROSS The Oakland Press July 31, 2002 BLOOMFIELD HILLS - The little boy who haunted the halls of the Cranbrook Institute of Science grew up to be an astronomer and curator of the Vatican's meteorite collection. I grew up at 15 Mile and Cranbrook, said Brother Guy Consolmagno. Every weekend I'd ride my bicycle up here and wander through the exhibits. That's what inspired me to become a scientist. Consolmagno was back at Cranbrook on Tuesday to deliver specimens from the Vatican's meteorite collection, including a piece of rock that was blasted from the surface of Mars by some kind of impact and fell to Earth about 1,000 years ago in the Dar al Gani region of the northern Sahara Desert in Libya. It's the first time the Vatican has ever lent any specimens from its collection of meteorites - and Cranbrook gets to keep them for three years. The Vatican meteorites, specimens from Cranbrook's own collection and several meteorites on loan from the National Museum of Natural History will be on display this fall in the lobby of the institute's planetarium as part of a new exhibit called Rocks from Space. This little exhibit is going to have some cool stuff in it, said John Zawiskie, geologist and museum educator, as he accepted the meteorite samples. Thank you very much. Michael Stafford, acting director of the institute, said the loan of the specimens presents a unique opportunity for Cranbrook and residents. We have specimens that spend most of their time in Rome, he said. Now Oakland County residents are going to be able to see them in their own back yard. The samples on loan from the Vatican Observatory at Castel Gondolfo - the pope's summer home - include a piece of a meteorite that fell near Allegan in 1889 and a piece of a meteorite that fell near Ensisheim in the Alsace region of France in 1492. The Thunderstone, as it's called, has an interesting history. It was seized upon by the Emperor Maximilian as a portent of victory. After he defeated a larger French army, the stone was bolted to the door of the Ensisheim church, said Zawiskie, where it stayed for 300 years. It was taken down during the French Revolution and the greater part of it remains in the Ensisheim town hall. The specimens, together with a vial of chondrules - rocky matter that was swept together to form rocky planets and asteroids - weigh about 200 grams. Consolmagno carried the specimens to Cranbrook in a small 5-by-3-inch wooden box. They are literally priceless, having value only to scientists and collectors. See that little fragment at the bottom? said Consolmagno as he removed the Mars rock from a plastic zippered bag. Some crazy collector would pay a thousand dollars for that. Earth not likely to be hit by meteor It's nice to know that a newly discovered 1.2-mile-wide asteroid will miss the Earth in 2019. But the chances weren't all that great to begin with, said Brother Guy Consolmagno. The odds of being hit by a car crossing the street are much greater, said Consolmagno, curator of the Vatican meteorite collection and a native of Birmingham. He was at the Cranbrook Institute of Science on Tuesday to deliver samples of meteorites on loan from the Vatican's collection. Last week, preliminary calculations of the orbital path traveled by asteroid 2002 NT7 suggested the space rock had about a 1-in-250,000 chance of plowing into the Earth on Feb. 1, 2019. Such an impact would cause devastation on a continental scale. Follow-up observations during the weekend showed the asteroid and the Earth won't meet - at least for now, according to NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory on Monday. An asteroid collision with the Earth 63 million years ago likely caused dinosaurs to become extinct. Such an event today, said Consolmagno, would have such enormous consequences that it would be useful to know where these things are. Useful - and perhaps lucrative. The net worth of the metal alone in a 1-kilometer asteroid is something like 100 trillion dollars, said Consolmagno. How much would it cost to go up there and collect it? About the same amount. But the cost will come down as humans become more used to living in space, he said, and when that happens, it's useful to know which gold mine is coming toward us. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Apollo Moon Rocks, Meteorites on Display At Rhode Island Museum
http://www.projo.com/yourlife/content/projo_20020801_moonrox.6d89e.html Moon rocks flying over this weekend BY BILL VAN SICLEN projo.com (Rhode Island) August 1, 2002 PROVIDENCE -- Five years ago, scores of people showed up for an exhibit of NASA-owned moon rocks and soil samples at the Museum of Natural History and Planetarium in Roger Williams Park. Now, like Mini-Me versions of Halley's Comet, the hunks of lunar landscape are back again. People really loved them the first time, so we decided to bring them back, says museum director Tracy Keough. There's something about seeing pieces of another planet that's really fascinating. And fleeting. The exhibit, Rocks from Space, will be visible for two days only -- Saturday and Sunday -- before zooming off to parts unknown. Exhibit hours are noon to 3 p.m. each day. On display will be six different lunar rocks and soil samples, as well as six meteorites. All are on loan from the National Aeronautics Space Administration, better known as NASA, and all are encased in a protective coating of transparent acrylic. People can actually handle the samples, says exhibit coordinator Renee Gamba. That wouldn't be possible if they weren't protected. Visitors will also find a selection of rocks and minerals from the museum's own collection, including several meteorites. These specimens, which are not encased in acrylic, can also be handled. The Museum of National History and Planetarium is located in Roger Williams Park, off Elmwood Avenue, Providence. Admission is $2, or $1 for children under 8. For more information, call 785-9450. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] new member introduction
Welcome to our list Frederic, And Happy Birthday! You might be interested to know that the Aubrite, Pena Blanca Spring fell on your birthday in 1946. David Weir has a nice summary of it on his website at: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9278/ Just click on the achondrite button, scroll to the Aubrites and click on your birthday meteorite;-) Enjoy, Frank - Original Message - From: Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:54 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] new member introduction Good Afternoon! I am a new member to the list and thought I would post a brief introduction of myself. I am Frederic Janik, 27 tomorrow, French but living in Finland for nearly 4 years. I am collecting space stuff, autographs and books from the early manned missions (pre-shuttle). On a related list, Walter Branch posted a message and in his signature was included a link to his website. After visiting it I realized how interesting a meteorites collection could be, and here I am , hooked. I made two purchases for the moment: - The Rocks from Space book - A 0.01g part slice of lunar meteorite Dho280 from Erich Haiderer. I haven't received any of those yet. I am thinking I will be mostly collecting micromount because of the tight budget and the lack of space, but I will as well try to get a nice iron meteorite individual. I hope to learn a lot from you guys! Have a nice day, Frédéric Janik __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorites From Vatican Collection On Display At California Planetarium
Ron Baalke quoted: The net worth of the metal alone in a 1-kilometer asteroid is something like 100 trillion dollars, said Consolmagno. How much would it cost to go up there and collect it? About the same amount. Hello Everybody, The minor planet Geographos was estimated by Herrick (1971) to be worth some 900 billion dollars in nickel and the heavier elements that are mostly locked in the Earth's core: rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, etc. Reference: HERRICK SAMUEL (1971) Exploration and 1994 Exploitation of Geographos (In Asteroids (1979), ed. T. Gehrels, pp. 222-226, Univ. of Arizona Press, Tucson, Arizona). Best regards, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites From Vatican Collection On Display At California Planetarium
The minor planet Geographos was estimated by Herrick (1971) to be worth some 900 billion dollars in nickel and the heavier elements that are mostly locked in the Earth's core: rhenium, osmium, iridium, platinum, gold, etc. Don't forget though the supply and demand principle. If there was a large increase in the availability of these metals, it would drive their prices down. Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving
Gun Bluing won't work. One dealer, who shall remain nameless, tried it and it did not work. If you have a rusty sikhote-alin your best course of action is to gently clean it with a dremel tool and then rub it down with a silicone gun cloth. If the rust was heavy enough to eat into the metal, you will still have some pitting but at least it will be clean. The trick is to buy the best quality Sikhote-alin to start with. You will pay more but it will be worth it in the long run. As cheap as Sikhote-alin is on ebay, I continue to sell specimens on my webpage at $1 to $1.50 per gram. Quality specimens always sell, does not matter what kind of collectable you are dealing with. Best Wishes. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Highest Quality Sikhote-alin on The Planet: http://www.sikhote-alin.com - Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving Hello, A lot of The Sikhote-Alin meteorites appear to have been gun blued. The same acid or staining compound used to make gun barrels darker or bluedthis has been my experience with some of these irons. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham - Original Message - From: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving List, First I want to thank John Gwilliam for his informative response about rusting chingas and Nantans. My question is in regard to Sikhotes that I've saw being sold in Tucson by various European dealers. The specimens looked exceptionally well preserved. No trace of rust. The color was so dark that they look painted. Does anyone know what process they used to get these super results? Thanks, Ken Newton #9632 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving
Hello all And for stop the rusty from the Sikhote slices - from the veins of the widmanstatten patterns separations - is the same method? Regards matteo --- Jim Strope [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gun Bluing won't work. One dealer, who shall remain nameless, tried it and it did not work. If you have a rusty sikhote-alin your best course of action is to gently clean it with a dremel tool and then rub it down with a silicone gun cloth. If the rust was heavy enough to eat into the metal, you will still have some pitting but at least it will be clean. The trick is to buy the best quality Sikhote-alin to start with. You will pay more but it will be worth it in the long run. As cheap as Sikhote-alin is on ebay, I continue to sell specimens on my webpage at $1 to $1.50 per gram. Quality specimens always sell, does not matter what kind of collectable you are dealing with. Best Wishes. Jim Strope 421 Fourth Street Glen Dale, WV 26038 Highest Quality Sikhote-alin on The Planet: http://www.sikhote-alin.com - Original Message - From: Michael Cottingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving Hello, A lot of The Sikhote-Alin meteorites appear to have been gun blued. The same acid or staining compound used to make gun barrels darker or bluedthis has been my experience with some of these irons. Best Wishes Michael Cottingham - Original Message - From: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 9:51 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving List, First I want to thank John Gwilliam for his informative response about rusting chingas and Nantans. My question is in regard to Sikhotes that I've saw being sold in Tucson by various European dealers. The specimens looked exceptionally well preserved. No trace of rust. The color was so dark that they look painted. Does anyone know what process they used to get these super results? Thanks, Ken Newton #9632 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Asteroid 2002 NT7: No Longer An Impact Risk
Asteroid 2002 NT7 Removed from IMPACT RISKS page Don Yeomans Manager, Near-Earth Object Program Jet Propulsion Laboratory August 1, 2002 Recent positional observations of asteroid 2002 NT7 have been used to update and improve this object's orbit and as a result, all possibilities for an Earth impact in the next 100 years have been eliminated. This object's orbit, along with the orbits of all near-Earth objects, will be improved continuously as additional observations become available. When the orbital information is sufficiently accurate, the future orbital extrapolations of these near-Earth objects will be carried out for more than 100 years. http://neo.jpl.nasa.gov __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites From Vatican Collection On Display At California Planetarium
Hi fellow meteorite enthusiasts, In case you wanted to see the meteorites on loan from the Vatican collection... Cranbrook Institute of Science is outside Detroit, Michigan. It is a wonderful place that inspired many amateur and professional scientists. Enjoy, Dolores Hill At 09:26 AM 8/1/2002, Ron Baalke wrote: http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=4907576BRD=982PAG=461dept_id=467992rfi=6 Meteorites hit Cranbrook By BOB GROSS The Oakland Press July 31, 2002 BLOOMFIELD HILLS - The little boy who haunted the halls of the Cranbrook Institute of Science grew up to be an astronomer and curator of the Vatican's meteorite collection. I grew up at 15 Mile and Cranbrook, said Brother Guy Consolmagno. Every weekend I'd ride my bicycle up here and wander through the exhibits. That's what inspired me to become a scientist. Consolmagno was back at Cranbrook on Tuesday to deliver specimens from the Vatican's meteorite collection, including a piece of rock that was blasted from the surface of Mars by some kind of impact and fell to Earth about 1,000 years ago in the Dar al Gani region of the northern Sahara Desert in Libya. It's the first time the Vatican has ever lent any specimens from its collection of meteorites - and Cranbrook gets to keep them for three years. The Vatican meteorites, specimens from Cranbrook's own collection and several meteorites on loan from the National Museum of Natural History will be on display this fall in the lobby of the institute's planetarium as part of a new exhibit called Rocks from Space. This little exhibit is going to have some cool stuff in it, said John Zawiskie, geologist and museum educator, as he accepted the meteorite samples. Thank you very much. Michael Stafford, acting director of the institute, said the loan of the specimens presents a unique opportunity for Cranbrook and residents. We have specimens that spend most of their time in Rome, he said. Now Oakland County residents are going to be able to see them in their own back yard. The samples on loan from the Vatican Observatory at Castel Gondolfo - the pope's summer home - include a piece of a meteorite that fell near Allegan in 1889 and a piece of a meteorite that fell near Ensisheim in the Alsace region of France in 1492. The Thunderstone, as it's called, has an interesting history. It was seized upon by the Emperor Maximilian as a portent of victory. After he defeated a larger French army, the stone was bolted to the door of the Ensisheim church, said Zawiskie, where it stayed for 300 years. It was taken down during the French Revolution and the greater part of it remains in the Ensisheim town hall. The specimens, together with a vial of chondrules - rocky matter that was swept together to form rocky planets and asteroids - weigh about 200 grams. Consolmagno carried the specimens to Cranbrook in a small 5-by-3-inch wooden box. They are literally priceless, having value only to scientists and collectors. See that little fragment at the bottom? said Consolmagno as he removed the Mars rock from a plastic zippered bag. Some crazy collector would pay a thousand dollars for that. Earth not likely to be hit by meteor It's nice to know that a newly discovered 1.2-mile-wide asteroid will miss the Earth in 2019. But the chances weren't all that great to begin with, said Brother Guy Consolmagno. The odds of being hit by a car crossing the street are much greater, said Consolmagno, curator of the Vatican meteorite collection and a native of Birmingham. He was at the Cranbrook Institute of Science on Tuesday to deliver samples of meteorites on loan from the Vatican's collection. Last week, preliminary calculations of the orbital path traveled by asteroid 2002 NT7 suggested the space rock had about a 1-in-250,000 chance of plowing into the Earth on Feb. 1, 2019. Such an impact would cause devastation on a continental scale. Follow-up observations during the weekend showed the asteroid and the Earth won't meet - at least for now, according to NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory on Monday. An asteroid collision with the Earth 63 million years ago likely caused dinosaurs to become extinct. Such an event today, said Consolmagno, would have such enormous consequences that it would be useful to know where these things are. Useful - and perhaps lucrative. The net worth of the metal alone in a 1-kilometer asteroid is something like 100 trillion dollars, said Consolmagno. How much would it cost to go up there and collect it? About the same amount. But the cost will come down as humans become more used to living in space, he said, and when that happens, it's useful to know which gold mine is coming toward us. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorites From Vatican Collection On
--=_5581976==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi fellow meteorite enthusiasts, In case you wanted to see the meteorites on loan from the Vatican collection... Cranbrook Institute of Science is outside Detroit, Michigan. Oops, I assumed Oakland county was in California. Is there also an Oakland county in Michigan? Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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Hi Ron, Yes. Oakland County, Michigan. I guess that shows why we have to carefully specify some meteorite names and locations, too. :-) Dolores At 10:44 AM 8/1/2002, Ron Baalke wrote: --=_5581976==_.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Hi fellow meteorite enthusiasts, In case you wanted to see the meteorites on loan from the Vatican collection... Cranbrook Institute of Science is outside Detroit, Michigan. Oops, I assumed Oakland county was in California. Is there also an Oakland county in Michigan? Ron Baalke __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ebay auctions ending tonight
Check it out at the following link... http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/catchafallingstar.com/ Best Wishes.. Jim Strope421 Fourth StreetGlen Dale, WV 26038 Catch a Falling Star Meteoriteshttp://www.catchafallingstar.com
[meteorite-list] Meteor Fall July 30
Hi all, I haven't checked the meteor observer pages yet but I witnessed an impressive meteor fall on July 30th of 2002. As I was driving home and on an north/south road heading south I saw behind clouds an explosion of a sort, lighting up the night time sky (and ground). Figuring this to be a simple lighting in the sky, didn't get too excited until a few seconds after, saw a vapor trail go through the clouds and the trail lingered for a few seconds afterward. Knowing what this was I slowed down and listen for any noise associated with the fall for a couple of minutes but never did hear any sound (probably too far away). The fall was also witnessed by a co-worker who saw the same as I did but didn't notice the vapor trail but he was 20 to 25 miles to my west also on a north/south road heading south. The time of the fall was at aprox. 12:28 at eastern standard time (05:28 GMT). From my location some 4 miles south of Warsaw, IN. the meteor fall seemed to be at about 45 degrees up (half way between horizon and meridian) and at a southeasterly direction, heading on an apparent south to north direction perhaps even a bit northeasterly direction but more north. Since there clouds I was unable to plot any path along constellation lines but could probably with a bit of accuracy show about the location of the trail. I am sure that this had to deliver a meteorite or meteorites to the ground from the shear size of the explosion and vapor trail. If the clouds were 30 to 40 thousand feet and this was visible something had to make its way in dark flight to the ground. I haven't heard any news about this yet but wondering if others on the list had received any posts or heard of anyone in eastern Indiana or western Ohio having something come down. This is the second most impressive fall I have ever witnessed and I am sure there is meteoritic material resting on the ground somewhere a hundred miles away. All my best and hope to hear more from others. --AL Mitterling __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] NWA 1052 1054 1058 Acapulcoites open to trades
Hello all I have 3 new acapulcoites for sale-trades. Ask the list via email for the pieces. I accept trades. Regards Matteo = M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.com Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140 MSN Messanger: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EBAY.COM:http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving
Hi, I too have seen these blued up specimens, and IMHO, whilst they look excellent, I do not think that the appearance is very natural - as I said in my previous message to The List, I have 2 S-As from 2 completely different sources and they have identical patinas despite (presumably) they have been apart for many years indeed. The finish is more "natural" IMHO - a bit patchy, blackened in places, even slight reddish patches in the depths of some regmaglypts, but certainly not that super smooth gun metal blued finish I have seen. very best! dave In gentle decay,d."I have a proof that x^n+y^n=z^n never has integer solutions for n2.however, it won't fit into my signature file" IMCA #0092[EMAIL PROTECTED] (for IMCA member contact) http://www.meteorites.ic24.net/index.html
Re: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving
Yes, some Sikhotes in Tucson this past year were very heavily treated, leaving big oil stains in the boxes they were displayed in. They did look nice, but I'm sure there are many opinions as to whether this treatment would diminish their desirability or not. I have cleaned up many Sikhote Alins, and other irons, and have found that a good way to begin is by using a vibrating rock tumbler with crushed walnut shells instead of the usual grit. As long as you only do a few at a time to keep them from banging together, it works well. Sometimes it is necessary to clean up the deeper pits with a dremel tool, but the walnut shell treatment saves a lot of time! Regards from hot, sunny Alaska! : )) Jeanne Devon The Museum Store/The Nature Source IMCA #9236 www.thenaturesource.com -Original Message- From: magellon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:52 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sikhote - stopping rust and preserving List, First I want to thank John Gwilliam for his informative response about rusting chingas and Nantans. My question is in regard to Sikhotes that I've saw being sold in Tucson by various European dealers. The specimens looked exceptionally well preserved. No trace of rust. The color was so dark that they look painted. Does anyone know what process they used to get these super results? Thanks, Ken Newton #9632 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] West Virginia University Chemist Seeks To Make Outer Space Events Easy To Predict
News and Information Services West Virginia University Morgantown, West Virginia CONTACT: Charles Jaffe WVU Department of Chemistry Phone: 304-685-0826 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Monday July 29, 2002 WVU chemist seeks to make outer space events easy to predict A West Virginia University chemist and five other researchers have taken a quantum leap in predicting the orbits of celestial bodies, research that could one day help scientists accurately foretell if an asteroid or comet is headed for Earth. Charles Jaffe, associate professor of chemistry at WVU, is part of a team that combined a near 70-year-old chemical transition state theory and celestial mechanics to predict the outcome of a simulation involving Martian asteroids. We wanted to test the application of transition state theory to celestial mechanics by comparing our results with those of a simulation, Dr. Jaffe said. We chose as our simulation the escape of asteroids from Mars because of our interest in the Martian meteor found in Antarctica a few years ago. The research team's paper, Statistical Theory of Asteroid Escape Rates, made the cover of the July 2 issue of Physical Review Letters. The paper is also featured on the Physical Review Focus Web site at http://focus.aps.org./v9/st31.html Co-authors were David Farrelly, a chemist at Utah State University; T. Uzer, an atomic physicist at Georgia Institute of Technology; Jerrold Marsden, a mathematician at California Institute of Technology, and Shane D. Ross, his student; and Martin W. Lo, a software developer with Cal Tech's Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Transition state theory, developed by chemists in the 1930s, establishes a brief stage in chemical reactions between reactant and product, said Jaffe, who has helped refine the theory for modern uses. Bottlenecks between orbits of celestial bodies resemble transition states in chemistry, he added. For their research, Jaffe and his fellow scientists developed a computer-based simulation of asteroids orbiting Mars, then used the transition state theory to predict how many asteroids would remain in the red planet's orbit and how many would escape. The team then calculated the survival and escape rates by performing the simulation 107,000 times to represent the asteroids' trajectories. There was a 1 percent difference between the simulation's results and the theory's predictions. This means the theory works and you don't need to run the simulations, which take several days, said Jaffe, who came to WVU in 1984 after obtaining his doctorate from the University of Colorado and doing postdoctoral work at the University of Toronto and Columbia University. Extending transition state theory to celestial mechanics could one day help scientists better predict such outer space events as asteroids and comets headed for Earth and solar storms capable of disrupting satellite communications, Jaffe said. Astronomers announced recently that they are monitoring a recently discovered asteroid that has a minimal chance of striking the Earth in 2019. Last month, scientists discovered an asteroid that narrowly missed the planet -- after it passed by. Using transition theory, Jaffe explained, scientists could determine which group of asteroids is more likely to come close to Earth. What this will do is help us decide which space matter is worth worrying about, he said. There is not enough time to look at each asteroid. Using transition state theory, instead of looking at individual things, one can look at classes of things. The research is supported by the National Science Foundation, American Chemical Society, West Virginia NASA Space Grant Program and NASA-ASEE Summer Faculty Fellowship. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Intro.
Hello List, I have been on the list for a few weeks. I figured it is time to introduce my self. My name is James T. Knudson, but, I go by my middle name, Tom. I am 37 years old. I Am a falconer, hence Peregrineflier@... As a Profession I am a Telephone cable spicer. I have been collecting meteorites for about a year, although I have always been fascinated with them. The only reason I started collecting is so I have a clue what to look for when I am meteorite hunting. Hunting is a passion of mine, whether it be with my falcon, a gun or a metal detector. I have a wife and two girls 7 14 That enjoy hunting with me, no matter what I am hunting with. I really enjoy this Hobby and the people that practice it. Thank you, Tom Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Welcome!
HiTom! I have been collecting meteorites for about a year, although I have always been fascinated with them. The only reason I started collecting is so I have a clue what to look for when I am meteorite hunting. A sensible-enough reason! ;-) Hunting is a passion of mine, whether it be with my falcon, a gun or a metal detector. I have a wife and two girls 7 14 That enjoy hunting with me, no matter what I am hunting with. Which begs the question: have you found any meteorites?Where have you meteorite hunted? Best wishes and welcome to the list! --Rob
[meteorite-list] NASA Arttrain
Dear meteorite associates; If any of you will be within driving distance of Rock Springs, WY. this Friday, Saturday, or Sunday, our Community Fine Arts Center along with Daimler Chrysler and others will have the NASA Art Train on display here for free public viewing. I am working on getting permission for a couple photos, and may be able to display some of my meteorite collection at the Fine Arts Center. On another note...Ted Nugent was most excellent last evening, and he to is out of this world...especially the handshake, autograph, and wild stage show. I have photos... Best new strewnfields, Oops, Wango-tango! Dave Freeman IMCA #3864 Millennium Jade of Wyoming Rock Springs, Wyoming Member of Rock Springs and Green River Chamber's of Commerce __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[Fwd: [meteorite-list] Intro.]
Welcome, Tom, when you have finished training your falcons to look out for meteorites, let me know so that I can buy one. ;-) I wouldn't mind having a couple of those eyes in helping me to find some meteorites in our outback here Down-Under in Australia. Cheers, Mate, and best regards, Norbert F. Kammel IMCA #3420 www.rocksonfire.com Original Message Subject: [meteorite-list] Intro. Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 12:33:10 -0700 From: "James knudson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello List, I have been on the list for a few weeks. I figured it is time to introduce my self. My name is James T. Knudson, but, I go by my middle name, Tom. I am 37 years old. I Am a falconer, hence Peregrineflier@... As a Profession I am a Telephone cable spicer. I have been collecting meteorites for about a year, although I have always been fascinated with them. The only reason I started collecting is so I have a clue what to look for when I am meteorite hunting. Hunting is a passion of mine, whether it be with my falcon, a gun or a metal detector. I have a wife and two girls 7 14 That enjoy hunting with me, no matter what I am hunting with. I really enjoy this Hobby and the people that practice it. Thank you, Tom Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
A while back we all did a little sharing of bios and how we got into meteorite collecting. It was a good time, a little off topic, but it gave us a glimpse into all the people behind all the posts. Newer members can find this in the archives. I thought I would use some slow time to send out a photo of myself. We have all seen photos of many of the larger dealers, who could ever forget Mike Farmer on his haunches beside the Ouriuqe crater, Rob Elliot aside his Lotus, Dean Bessy with the Canada Arm, or the numerous photos posted from the Tucson parties. But there is a multitude of folks I read posts from every day or do business with often that I would walk right by in the street. Seeing Walter Branch the other day in a post he made me realize I have a preconceived notion of what many of you look like, like characters in a book, based on what I have read in a post or some other misguided contextual clue. I was sure Walter was older, Ron Hartman was younger, and that Rhett was a woman as the only personal photo on his site was a lady and there was no caption to tell me otherwise. So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who. Me, AKA nakhladog on eBay http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/27e2423e/bc/My+Photos/digirob+copy.jpg?bc_EVc9AMizFMrHO --Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who. http://members.aol.com:/sharkkb8/jgwwhaleshark2.jpg Guess which one is me. ;-) Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
Indeed, sharkbait. --Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who.http://members.aol.com:/sharkkb8/jgwwhaleshark2.jpgGuess which one is me. ;-) Gregory
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who. It was pretty hot at Wolfe Creek Meteorite Crater. URL:http://images.andale.com/f2/113/103/4948211/1021026731619_nk.jpg Best regards from Down-Under, Norbert F. Kammel IMCA #3420 www.rocksonfire.com
[meteorite-list] Sahara Sand and Michigan Dirt
Aug. 1, 2002 Greetings Jeanne Devon and Fellow Meteorite Enthusiasts! I believe I have a clue to what you are describing. On our farm I have often seen thin layers of what appear to be dark grey to black particles in wash outs. They are very minute to be sure. However, a magnet readily attracts them as if they were metal filings. If they were magnetite, wouldn't one expect them to rust and/or corrode? I find them to be very strange and even more so under a microscope. Some, I recall, reminded me of micro iron meteorites. I have pondered there presence for a long time and have come up with a few theories, one being that they are connected in some way to an impact crater. I hope to investigate this matter more thoroughly when time permits and hopefully solve this possibly meteoritic mystery and perhaps answer your question as well. Long strewn fields! Mark Fox Newaygo, MI USA --- MuseumStore/NatureSource [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I tried to post this yesterday, but didn't see it come up. Sorry if it's a repeat!) Hi List! Can anyone tell me anything about the general composition of Sahara Desert sand? I have a couple vials that I've been looking at on my lunch break. Just out of curiosity, I held a Nd magnet against the glass of the vial and several little black specks jumped up on to the magnet. I looked at them under a binocular microscope. I couldn't rule them in or out as little micrometeorites. The orange color of the sand leads me to believe that iron may be a factor in the sand's coloration and composition, and that these specks may just be ferrous minerals and nothing to get too excited about. Has anyone come across this? Does anyone have any information/thoughts/comments? Regards, Jeanne Devon IMCA #9236 www.thenaturesource.com The Museum Store/The Nature Source __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Looks too weathered?
http://berlinadmin.dlr.de/HofW/2002/145/Meteorit_Vergleich.jpg Hey guys! In the above image the ground-down corner makes that Neuschwanstein stony look like a weathering grade of W2!!? Ach, du lieber Himmelskörper! How much rain did you guys get there in Bavaria these past 4 months?!! Was gibt es, meine Herren? Puzzeled in Pasadena, Bob V. __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
I was sure Walter was older, Rob Wesel - my new best friend :-) -Walter ---Walter Branch, Ph.D.Branch Meteorites322 Stephenson Ave., Suite BSavannah, GA 31405 USAwww.branchmeteorites.com - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel To: Meteorite List Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited A while back we all did a little sharing of bios and how we got into meteorite collecting. It was a good time, a little off topic, but it gave us a glimpse into all the people behind all the posts. Newer members can find this in the archives. I thought I would use some slow time to send out a photo of myself. We have all seen photos of many of the larger dealers, who could ever forget Mike Farmer on his haunches beside the Ouriuqe crater, Rob Elliot aside his Lotus, Dean Bessy with the Canada Arm, or the numerous photos posted from the Tucson parties. But there is a multitude of folks I read posts from every day or do business with often that I would walk right by in the street. Seeing Walter Branch the other day in a post he made me realize I have a preconceived notion of what many of you look like, like characters in a book, based on what I have read in a post or some other misguided contextual clue. I was sure Walter was older, Ron Hartman was younger, and that Rhett was a woman as the only personal photo on his site was a lady and there was no caption to tell me otherwise. So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who. Me, AKA nakhladog on eBay http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/27e2423e/bc/My+Photos/digirob+copy.jpg?bc_EVc9AMizFMrHO --Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
In a message dated 8/1/2002 5:39:03 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who My (recent) picture is on the ImpactNews page of my site. At the bottom of the page of course, so you get to read the whole thing. :-) Here is the URL: http://www.impactika.com/ImpacNews-frame.html For the new members (and old ones too): if you would like to see pictures of Denver and Tucson Shows, you can find them here: http://photos.yahoo.com/impactika And for Frederick in Finland: Joyeux Anniversaire et bienvenue sur cette Liste. Anne Black IMCA #2356 www.IMPACTIKA.com e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited
ok www.FallenStarMeteorites.com on the about me page and the products pages.. But am not finished yet.. so don't laugh. I am blonde.. it takes me awhile..lol Rosie - Original Message - From: Rob Wesel To: Meteorite List Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:36 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Who I am??? - Revisited A while back we all did a little sharing of bios and how we got into meteorite collecting. It was a good time, a little off topic, but it gave us a glimpse into all the people behind all the posts. Newer members can find this in the archives. I thought I would use some slow time to send out a photo of myself. We have all seen photos of many of the larger dealers, who could ever forget Mike Farmer on his haunches beside the Ouriuqe crater, Rob Elliot aside his Lotus, Dean Bessy with the Canada Arm, or the numerous photos posted from the Tucson parties. But there is a multitude of folks I read posts from every day or do business with often that I would walk right by in the street. Seeing Walter Branch the other day in a post he made me realize I have a preconceived notion of what many of you look like, like characters in a book, based on what I have read in a post or some other misguided contextual clue. I was sure Walter was older, Ron Hartman was younger, and that Rhett was a woman as the only personal photo on his site was a lady and there was no caption to tell me otherwise. So, for the next few days, if there is a picture of you on the net anywhere, link it here so we can see who's who. Me, AKA nakhladog on eBay http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/27e2423e/bc/My+Photos/digirob+copy.jpg?bc_EVc9AMizFMrHO --Rob Wesel--We are the music makers...and we are the dreamers of the dreams.Willy Wonka, 1971
[meteorite-list] About The Nature Source
Hi Everyone! I'm the one on the right with the baby. Taken a while ago, but it's the best I can do! http://www.thenaturesource.com/?goto=aboutid= Jeannie Devon The Museum Store/The Nature Source IMCA #9236 www.thenaturesource.com About The Nature Source.url Description: Binary data
Re: [meteorite-list] Sahara Sand and Michigan Dirt
I will eagerly be awaiting any further thoughts you have on this! I wish I could take a picture of them. Regards, Jeanne - Original Message - From: Mark Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:04 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Sahara Sand and Michigan Dirt Aug. 1, 2002 Greetings Jeanne Devon and Fellow Meteorite Enthusiasts! I believe I have a clue to what you are describing. On our farm I have often seen thin layers of what appear to be dark grey to black particles in wash outs. They are very minute to be sure. However, a magnet readily attracts them as if they were metal filings. If they were magnetite, wouldn't one expect them to rust and/or corrode? I find them to be very strange and even more so under a microscope. Some, I recall, reminded me of micro iron meteorites. I have pondered there presence for a long time and have come up with a few theories, one being that they are connected in some way to an impact crater. I hope to investigate this matter more thoroughly when time permits and hopefully solve this possibly meteoritic mystery and perhaps answer your question as well. Long strewn fields! Mark Fox Newaygo, MI USA --- MuseumStore/NatureSource [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (I tried to post this yesterday, but didn't see it come up. Sorry if it's a repeat!) Hi List! Can anyone tell me anything about the general composition of Sahara Desert sand? I have a couple vials that I've been looking at on my lunch break. Just out of curiosity, I held a Nd magnet against the glass of the vial and several little black specks jumped up on to the magnet. I looked at them under a binocular microscope. I couldn't rule them in or out as little micrometeorites. The orange color of the sand leads me to believe that iron may be a factor in the sand's coloration and composition, and that these specks may just be ferrous minerals and nothing to get too excited about. Has anyone come across this? Does anyone have any information/thoughts/comments? Regards, Jeanne Devon IMCA #9236 www.thenaturesource.com The Museum Store/The Nature Source __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Clarification
Since I linked to my website, I just wanted to clarify that The Nature Source in Anchorage Alaska (mine) is not in any way affiliated with any other business of the same name anywhere on Earth. : ) OK, three posts in a row...that's a record for me! I'm done! Regards, Jeannie The Museum Store/The Nature Source The Historical Research CenterAnchorage, Alaskawww.thenaturesource.com__No matter how far you go down the wrong road, turn back.-Turkish Proverb
[meteorite-list] Re: Blue flash in Ohio sky still a mystery
Hi Bob, This wasn't a Perseid meteor at all as it wasn't coming from that radiant. Actually it was headed more for the radiant! I am am amateur astronomer of over 35 years with a backyard observatory housing an 16 inch newtonian. I'll give a more detailed account in a bit for you. I know Steve Witt as we have met several times and discussed meteorites over pizza and so forth. In my estimation this would have landed well north of Cincinnati, Ohio, maybe as far north as lima. Need to hear some reports from the other side of the fall. --AL __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
