Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
Sound like you mixed a little locoweed in with your regular bong fodder. John At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
is the result of foraging in the male bovine pen...ate a little too much.good news is it should keep the flu bug away though! DF John Gwilliam wrote: Sound like you mixed a little locoweed in with your regular bong fodder. John At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
Hi, My well-worn copy of Encyclopaedia Psychedelia does not report chronometric circularity as a known side effect of Datura stramonium. Sounds more like Gigasalvia venerii (commonly known as Venusian Gold). Sterling --- John Gwilliam wrote: Sound like you mixed a little locoweed in with your regular bong fodder. John At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Top Ten Contest Winner is...
Just a big thank you to Fred for running the Meteorite names competition, well done. Merry Christmas! The information contained in this email may be commercially sensitive and/or legally privileged. It is intended solely for the person(s) to whom it is addressed. If you are not a named recipient, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. You must not disclose it to any other person, copy or distribute it or use it for any purpose.
[meteorite-list] D'orbigny
Hello all- Can anyone with any D'orbigny for sale get back to me with a price per gram. I have only spotted a couple web sites listing it and I was amazed at the swing in price. Just want to weed out the dead links and gain some idea of what it is really worth these days. Thanks in advance and happy holidays, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny
Hi The actual price per gram is about $5000/g As I told in when we began to sell it, only a small part of the 16kg will be available for collectors and its already sold out. You can see pieces for sale at Michael Bood and Matt Morgan web pages. Expect the price to go up in the future. Eduardo -Original Message- From: Rob Wesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:03:44 -0800 Subject: [meteorite-list] D'orbigny Hello all- Can anyone with any D'orbigny for sale get back to me with a price per gram. I have only spotted a couple web sites listing it and I was amazed at the swing in price. Just want to weed out the dead links and gain some idea of what it is really worth these days. Thanks in advance and happy holidays, Rob Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
Tom, I`m really worried about you! Have you seen a doctor sense ingesting that whole 78G Bensour? It may have been toxic. At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
In a message dated 12/22/2003 8:33:26 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." Perhaps the line is getting thicker on one side? :o) GeoZay
RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
I am going to put my vote on the "mental illness" sideas usual another waste of bandwidth.Randy From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !! Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 23:02:42 -0700 Hello List, You should try this it is so cool.I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness." Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Enjoy the holiday season with great tips from MSN. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
Just sounds like one of many variations of holiday dimentia. Then again it also sounds like that idea about a meteorite thrown by a super Nolan Ryan at just the perfect velocity to hold it in eternal gravitational situ or whatever all that was about might have got to him. Bill Kieskowski Tom, I`m really worried about you! Have you seen a doctor sense ingesting that whole 78G Bensour? It may have been toxic. At 11:02 PM 12/21/03 -0700, Tom aka James Knudson wrote: Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] re: Bootids (Quadrantids) meteor shower and 2003 EH1
Hello Marco, I'm am very pleased you caught and responded to my post. Keeping in mind falls on Jan. 3, and their types: Lost City H5 (Oklahoma, US 1970) Warrenton CO3 (Missouri, US 1903) St. Marks EH5 (South Africa 1877) 2003 EH1 and St. Mark's EH5 a coincidence:) And from the JPL toolkit, I checked out 138 years (1873 to 2010) of 2003 EH1 position: 1877 at 1.02 AU from Sun and 0.53 AU from Earth 1903 at 3.64 AU from Sun and 4.54 AU from Earth 1970 at 1.97 AU from Sun and 2.15 AU from Earth And, if I rank proximity of 2003 EH1 for the 138 years, the top nine are the only ones under one AU from Earth, in date order. I find it interesting that 1877, the date of St. Marks EH5) is the second closest approach in the 138 years. 1877 0.52 1904 0.61 1915 0.85 1926 0.23 1937 0.67 1981 0.74 1992 0.56 2003 1.11 2004 3.77 For 138 years: Average = 4.46 Sigma = 1.63 min. 0.23 max. 6.12 Rank in 138 years of closest approach to Earth (1926 was closest at 0.23 AU): 1877 (2) 1903 (55) 1970 (17) So, please check out St. Marks EH5 as a footnote somewhere, and if you have nothing to do, Lost City H5 -which Elton had some potentially good additional comments... I read your comments, and appreciate them, and also made a first pass at the e-preprint for which you gave the link. I am still left wondering, though after reading the following paragraphs from that paper, which conform that material seems to be distributed within the evolving orbit evenly (no dust peak at "parent body"), and that you are operating under theories of a too close for comfort Jupiter encounter perhaps causing a very significant ejection of material. If that is indeed the case, and if dust is well distributed which causes the "common" Quadrantids we see on a well timed morning, when we pass that perihelion point, what is to prevent a larger chunk here and there in the orbit escaping, being captured, and terminating on Earth, especially (not meant to be contradictory with the orbital well-distributed observation :)) on a year when the "main mass of the parent body", i.e. 2003 EH1", is nearest Earth, as the above conjecture? Here are the comments from your good paper referenced that have me even further mulling this over, while the DUST distribution seems to have uniformized through the whole orbit in very short timing according to the paper and other sources, observers, etc., a disintegration event would likely still have any larger pieces nearer the main body, right? Paper: "There is no evidence that the dust density increases near the comet position. Together with the distributions shown in Figure 4, this defines the distribution of dust in the stream in three dimensions. From that, a mass of about 1x1013 kg is calculated for grains in the range 10-6 to 1000 g [12]. This compares to earlier estimates of a factor of 10-100 less [references in 12], on account of a wider dispersion in q. That is significantly more dust than typically lost from a typical Jupiter-family comet in a single return (~1010 kg), and implies either a deposition for a period of ~ 1000 years, or debris from a recent cometary breakup. The Quadrantid meteoroids are cometary in nature, given that they appear to be fragile with numerous flares from the sudden release of small fragments and relatively high penetration depths in Earth's atmosphere [13]. The meteors end at altitudes similar to those of Perseids (from 109P/Swift-Tuttle) and Lyrids (from C/Thatcher) and do not penetrate as deep as the higher density Geminid meteoroids, cometary dust that has been sintered in a low q orbit and is thought to be more representative of compact asteroidal dust (Figure 5)." If you had any additional comments, that would be very interesting...!!! For example, a little dreaming if there were a relation: could St. Marks EH5, anhydrous, be an example of a proto-Venusian cometary object, remanent highly elliptical orbit later condemened mostly to the asteriod belt after some gravitational interaction? Does 2003 EH1 show water absorption peaks? Saludos Doug Dawn Mexico En un mensaje con fecha 12/22/2003 5:28:41 AM Mexico Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: Asunto: [meteorite-list] re: Bootids (Quadrantids) meteor shower and 2003 EH1 Fecha: 12/22/2003 5:28:41 AM Mexico Standard Time De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado por Internet Hello Doug and others, 1. I can't resist asking if anyone can correlate any Jan 3 or (Jan 4?) falls, or there about. This should be a fresh research question. I don't think it is likely that the Quadrantids produce meteorites. The dynamic behaviour of these meteors points out that they consist of very fragile material that destroys completely in the upper atmosphere. Quadrantids do not penetrate deep into the atmosphere, their average end-height is for example higher up than for Geminids. The early part of the story of the identification of 2003 EH1 as the possible parent of the Quadrantids (and as a dormant comet) is one
Re: [meteorite-list] re: Bootids (Quadrantids) -clarification
Oops, that should read, "the top seven are the only ones under one AU from Earth, in date order". I confused myself by adding 2003 and 2004 to the list, which is where the nine came from. So in 138 years there have only been 7 approaches to 2003 EH1 under 1 AU. And 1877 is 2.4 sigmas closer than average...Saludos perhaps someone knows more about St. Marks, please say something. Doug En un mensaje con fecha 12/22/2003 1:54:40 PM Mexico Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: And, if I rank proximity of 2003 EH1 for the 138 years, the top nine are the only ones under one AU from Earth, in date order. I find it interesting that 1877, the date of St. Marks EH5) is the second closest approach in the 138 years. 1877 0.52 1904 0.61 1915 0.85 1926 0.23 1937 0.67 1981 0.74 1992 0.56 2003 1.11 2004 3.77 For 138 years: Average = 4.46 Sigma = 1.63 min. 0.23 max. 6.12
[meteorite-list] FW: Ripley's Believe It or Not meteors/meteorites
--- Forward Message - From: meteorobs-digest Subject: meteorobs-digest V4 #1295 Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:26:13 -0500 (EST) meteorobs-digest Monday, December 22 2003 Volume 04 : Number 1295 1) (meteorobs) fyi more Ripley's Believe It or Not meteors/meteorites ++ - Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 12:05:08 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (meteorobs) fyi more Ripley's Believe It or Not meteors/meteorites Here is the latest information on the eclipse and fireball stuff that I have managed to find out concerning that Ripley's believe it or not information I found it in one of Ripley's books. It seems, as I read it from the information that I found, that a lighthouse was hit by a lightning type of fireball and not a meteoroid fireball. Also about the fact that a a cruiser/ship was hit by a Meteor type fireball as it said in the book and that that most of the men jumped ship after the strike. It seems that the fireball took place about the same time as that lighthouse was struck but once again not a meteor fireball but a lightning strike. While a ship was close to shore when the ship was destroyed, a few members survived. However if it was close to shore, why did it take so long for those crew members to get to shore. Mystery again? The other meteorite tale seems to be true and well documented though. Dr. Eric Flescher ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) FGU astronomy consultant, Harvard U.- Member, ASKC (Astronomical Society of Kansas City), Comet Observers Award Moderator, Astronomical League. (http://www.astroleague.org/al/obsclubs/obsclub.html) http://members.aol.com/kcstarguy/blacksun/cometaward.htm State of Kansas- Solar System Ambassador - JPL (Jet Propulson Lab); 7 total solar eclipses and counting (send messages to the network at ) [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Subscribe to have your name on the listserve by sending email to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Greetings Well I was the first one to hear about this and tell you all about it to find more. I would like to update what I have found for your information. Regarding my original transcription that I found in a book at one of my middle schools in Kansas (part of the read a book program) - see below). The meteorite that hit the car is well explained and everything correct as I wrote it except I got the name of the town wrong. One person even said he saw the meteor. The 1907 was another storm to explain however. I did a number of searches on the internet and found the information and websites (see below). I found this at http://www.southwestlife.com.au/history1201.htm AND this is where it got confusing. It appears that a fireball hit the station but that is was not a meteorite type fireball but one related to lightning. The following was said Of course, you can't have a lighthouse without shipwreck stories. Cape Naturaliste Lighthouse has many, but one of the most interesting is the Carnarvon Castle, which caught fire off the coast in 1907. The ship was a fair way out to sea, and the crew members had to jump ship. The 14 survivors floated in lifeboats in the Indian Ocean for 27 days before reaching Cape Naturaliste. The lighthouse keeper at the time, Patrick Baird, and his family, took them in and cared for them until they were OK to travel again. It seems that crew did jump ship from sort of a lightning fireball but that is was not meteor in nature. I am not sure why it took so long for the crew who did survive , to make it to shore. I also did not see any mention of the name of the ship called eclipse. So all is well concerning the meteorite hitting the car. But I think the information about the meteor hitting the ship was not correct as far as I can fathom. Well this is what I have so far. Thanks for your interest. In Ripley's Believe it or not a book for kids there was this : On Oct 9, 1992 a Michelle Knapp of Peeksville, NY found that a a big meteorite hit her truck/car which landed with a foul smelling odor. She got paid for the meteorite tricking car and also got $50,000 for the Meteorite! Also in 1907, it was told that a meteor struck the sailship Eclipse in the mid Pacific ocean. The mast was carried and only 3 of the crew survived on a Lifeboat. They rowed 900 miles to Hawaii in 13 days. Anyone every heard of either particular the 1907 one? Dr. Eric Flescher *** These are some other resources I found. The Cape Naturaliste Lighthouse 1907 was an eventful year for this lighthouse with the wreck of the Carnarvon Castle and the impact of a fireball on the tower and quarters. ... www.lighthouse.net.au/lights/WA/Cape%20Naturaliste/ Cape%20Naturaliste.htm http://www.southwestlife.com.au/history1201.htm Of course, you can't have a lighthouse without shipwreck stories. Cape Naturaliste Lighthouse has many, but one of the most interesting is the Carnarvon Castle, which caught fire off the coast in 1907. The ship was a fair way
[meteorite-list] FW: Ripley's Believe It or Not meteors/meteorites
Robert Verish wrote: Â…text deletedÂ… It seems, as I read it from the information that I found, that a lighthouse was hit by a lightning type of fireball and not a meteoroid fireball. Also about the fact that a cruiser/ship was hit by a Meteor type fireball as it said in the book and that that most of the men jumped ship after the strike. It seems that the fireball took place about the same time as that lighthouse was struck but once again not a meteor fireball but a lightning strike. While a ship was close to shore when the ship was destroyed, a few members survived. However if it was close to shore, why did it take so long for those crew members to get to shore. Mystery again? Whether a mystery exists or not depends on the local currents at the time of the incident. If the currents / tides were offshore at the time, the survivors could very easily have been slept out sea, even if they were near to shore. If there were stonrg offshore currents /tides at the time of the incidence, the survivors could very well have gone unwillingly on a long sea vovage even thought they were near to shore. Yours, Paul Baton Rouge, LA __ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: Bootids (Quadrantids) meteor shower and 2003 EH1
while the DUST distribution seems to have uniformized through the whole orbit in very short timing according to the paper and other sources, observers, etc., a disintegration event would likely still have any larger pieces nearer the main body, right? Hello Dough, That cannot be excluded of course. While called a parent body, it is equally valid to regard 2003 EH1 as just the biggest meteoroid in the stream. Indeed, there could be fragments with sizes between the range ends defined by 2003 EH1 and normal Quadrantid meteoroids. You are right in that. Still I do not think this stream is a likely source of meteorites. You point to the St. Mark's EH5, and Lost City H5 (which anyhow has an orbit unlike that of 2003 EH1). St. Mark's is a chondrite with a rather high petrologic grade (5), i.e. it has undergone thermal metamorphism. Those are not the kind of bodies that I would connect with the clearly cometary Quadrantid meteoroids. Cheers, - Marco -- Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) Leiden, the Netherlands 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] re: 2003 EH1, Quadrantids and Lost City
Wasn't Lost City a Prairie Fire Ball Network find with calculated orbital data? Elton Hi Elton, Dough, Yes, and the orbit is different from 2003 EH1 and the Quadrantids in most notably the semi-major axis (a) and the inclination (i): object q a e i omega node pi Lost City 0.9671.661 0.417 12.0161.0 283.000 84.0 Quadrantids 0.9793.14 0.69 72 171.2 283.3 94.5 2003 EH11.192 3.128 0.619 70.8171.4 282.938 94.3 In terms of Drummond's D' criterion the orbit of Lost City compares to that of 2003 EH1 with D' 0.40, which is four times the value usually accepted as the upper treshold: and to the orbit of the Quadrantids with D' 0.42. In other words: there is not much similarity. By contrast, the D' criterion value of 2003 EH1 to the average Quadrantid orbit is 0.11 - Marco -- Dr Marco Langbroek Dutch Meteor Society (DMS) Leiden, the Netherlands 52.15896 N, 4.48884 E (WGS 84) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.wanadoo.nl/marco.langbroek -- __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !!!!!!
There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. I think he just tripped over the line. James [Original Message] From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 12/22/2003 12:04:26 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] TRY THIS !! Hello List, You should try this it is so cool. I set half the clocks in my house ahead an hour and the other half back an hour Saturday and spent 18 hours in some kind of space-time continuum loop, reliving Sunday (right up until the explosion). When I went out side there was almost a continuous stream of meteors!!! I was able to exit the loop only by reversing the polarity of the power source exactly e*log(pi) clocks in the house while simultaneously microwaving ice cubes. There is a very fine line between hobby and mental illness. Thanks, Tom Peregrineflier The proudest member of the IMCA # __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Re:Top Ten Fictitious Contest
Thanks to all that entered my holiday contest. If you have not yet sent me an e-mail with your address and choice of prize, (see previous post) please do so by Tuesday afternoon, as I'm mailing out the prize gifts on Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas, Fred Hall
