[meteorite-list] Tucson Show report
Hi everyone, the Tucson show is up and running, beautiful weather, ~70 degrees sunny, and lots of people! Today I saw virtually everyone meteorite related, a few are still missing, but all should be here tomorrow. Eric Olson, Myself and Jim Strope are open and set to go tomorrow. Some superb pieces can be found in our room that will give any other dealer a run for their money. I have alot of new meteorites just up for sale, so come check it out, see what we have. I also have a few slices of the spectacular NWA 1933 that was discussed yesterday. It is truly the most beautiful LL3 I have seen, and I have it priced very low! Again, see me in Room #184 at the Inn Suites Cell # 520 730 4754 Mike Farmer http://www.meteoritehunter.com
Re: [meteorite-list] Nice cut meteorite pic - YESTERDAYS ANSWER
G'day all, For those of you who checked out this image yesterday the answer is Choolkooning which is classified as an L6! http://www.meteoritesaustralia.com/images/1.jpg Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com
RE: [meteorite-list] Another nice pic!
Just imagine another one next to that one and you would have a real babe
meteorite - bodacious{:-)>. I think these rocks are having an influence on
me this late in the morning (3:24AM). I had to read your e-mail first,
did'nt I?
G O O D N I G H T
From: "Roman Jirasek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [meteorite-list] Another nice pic!
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:23:07 -0500
Hi list
Sure slow at the sign shop, time to kill or shoot rocks.
Check out this 3.5mm chondrule.
http://www.meteoritelabels.com/NWA226c.jpg
Still wish I was in Tucson!
Best regards,
Roman Jirasek
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RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
Hi Tom. I have a hell of a collection of US STEEL processed metal chunks and raw ore (especially the terrestrial gorgeous blood red, sometimes orange/brown and even fluorescent bright yellow Iron Ores , from the 500Ft. down level I was told by a Smelter bldg. worker 20yrs. back-half the stuff I havent figured out yet. They share one common trait- they are all hard -you'll have a hard time scratcing one but they do chip-off fairly easily. Some have a black as night oxide coating. Some have a brown and light brown coating, but they're not mine ore-they're processed rare earth metals/elements -by electrolysis or what have ya.. You know , there's one piece that has the dimensions 2+1/2 x 2+1/2 x1 inches , and you have to struggle picking it up with your index finger and thumb- Yes, I do have three more fully functioning fingers Tom. They sure have their differences as far as hardness ,streak, weight in the hand (specific gravity).I wish someone would show me how you test a sample for its specific gravity. My pieces, that I found, as far away as 2miles from the USX Ore Locomotives Tracks are all different processed metals for specific custom alloying metals ,I think? I used to do some metal-detecting in this humongous old-growth 300yr. old trees Pubic Park as Matteo would say, and I figure some of the pieces had to have gotten that far and sometimes closer too, by kids and adults picking them up and then playing (kids) and losing them .As a treasure hunter you quickly learn to see how movement of underground artifacts or above ground stuff like 100yr. old soda bottles might have gotten where they did. But to answer your question it's probably a processed metal ore. Do a streak test on it . Get a piece of broken or extra porcelain tile or if you happen to find an old toilet lid , crack a nice piece off for youself so you have a scrach pad- to do the streak test for color. You can chip down the larger piece of lid to the size you want. Also Tom, My 30 some odd pieces - not one is magnetic except for the Natural Iron Ores. Later G O O D N I G H T From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help? Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:35:08 -0700 Hello List, My (soon to be ex) mother in law showed me a rock she found in Oklahoma a few years ago. My first impression was cool a iron meteorite! The weight and the appearance was perfect but nothing happened when I got out the magnet. My second guess was lead, but its to hard. A little window revels that it is nice and shiny on the inside. It is not slag, or at least not like any I have seen and I have seen my fair share! Also, it sure looks natural I do not know what's in OK as far as minerals go so I am at a loss. Any ideas, metal that is does not attract a magnet? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA #6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Find high-speed net deals comparison-shop your local providers here. https://broadband.msn.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Love the "Solar System Stew" description. By the way, what do you mean by "armoured"? Anita ---Original Message--- From: Jeff Kuyken Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:34:09 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 G'day folks, I just received a slice of NWA 1933 from Mike Farmer today. I strongly recommend taking a look at the pics. This is one of the; if not THE BEST, ordinary chondrites I have ever seen! It seems like no two chondrules are the same and heaps of them are armoured. Under magnification you can see inclusions within inclusions (achondritic clasts?) and the colours are pretty spectacular! All in all, it's like a solidified primordial Solar System stew! Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here
RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
Roman and others, Specific gravity...we've all seen the picture of weighing a specimen out of water and then in water to come up with specific gravity. You need a scale that can hang the object you are weighing in the water. I don't remember the method details but the answer is usually stated in grams per centimeter cubed. I have used my own method for a while to do the same where I weigh the object on a scale and convert that weight to ounces (dumb English system!) Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a straight sided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by the change in height of the water: first without the object and then with the object. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out. so it goes like this: determine weight in OUNCES Determine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the: HEIGHT without object first HEIGHT with the object second The difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG along with some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter cubed. change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in height(change) delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change in inches) delta V is a number in inches cubed the conversion formula without all the details is as follows: (object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG in grams/cm 0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters 0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams. For the smart users of metric the metric systemthe answer is determined by the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams or: Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easier doesn't it) = grams/cm cubed Bottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of iron like stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metal friends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver and Lead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19. Have fun and don't get wet. (I don't do this with known meteorites) John > Hi Tom. I have a hell of a collection of US STEEL processed metal chunks > and raw ore (especially the terrestrial gorgeous blood red, sometimes > orange/brown and even fluorescent bright yellow Iron Ores , from the 500Ft. > down level I was told by a Smelter bldg. worker 20yrs. back-half the stuff I > havent figured out yet. They share one common trait- they are all hard > -you'll have a hard time scratcing one but they do chip-off fairly easily. > Some have a black as night oxide coating. Some have a brown and light brown > coating, but they're not mine ore-they're processed rare earth > metals/elements -by electrolysis or what have ya.. You know , there's one > piece that has the dimensions 2+1/2 x 2+1/2 x1 inches , and you have to > struggle picking it up with your index finger and thumb- Yes, I do have > three more fully functioning fingers Tom. They sure have their differences > as far as hardness ,streak, weight in the hand (specific gravity).I wish > someone would show me how you test a sample for its specific gravity. My > pieces, that I found, as far away as 2miles from the USX Ore Locomotives > Tracks are all different processed metals for specific custom alloying > metals ,I think? I used to do some metal-detecting in this humongous > old-growth 300yr. old trees Pubic Park as Matteo would say, and I figure > some of the pieces had to have gotten that far and sometimes closer too, by > kids and adults picking them up and then playing (kids) and losing them .As > a treasure hunter you quickly learn to see how movement of underground > artifacts or above ground stuff like 100yr. old soda bottles might have > gotten where they did. But to answer your question it's probably a processed > metal ore. Do a streak test on it . Get a piece of broken or extra > porcelain tile or if you happen to find an old toilet lid , crack a nice > piece off for youself so you have a scrach pad- to do the streak test for > color. You can chip down the larger piece of lid to the size you want. Also > Tom, My 30 some odd pieces - not one is magnetic except for the Natural > Iron Ores. Later > G O O D N I G H T > > > >From: "Tom aka James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help? > >Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:35:08 -0700 > > > >Hello List, My (soon to be ex) mother in law showed me a rock she found in > >Oklahoma a few years ago. My first impression was cool a iron meteorite! > >The weight and the appearance was perfect but nothing happened when I got > >out the magnet. My second guess was lead, but its to hard. A little window > >revels that it is nice and shiny on the inside. It is not slag, or at least > >not like any I have seen
[meteorite-list] Ke Zoukai from China
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Armoured chondrules are when the chondrule is surrounded by a thin rim of metal. They probably form due to impact shock melting. AubreyAnita Westlake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Love the "Solar System Stew" description. By the way, what do you mean by "armoured"? Anita ---Original Message--- From: Jeff Kuyken Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:34:09 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 G'day folks, I just received a slice of NWA 1933 from Mike Farmer today. I strongly recommend taking a look at the pics. This is one of the; if not THE BEST, ordinary chondrites I have ever seen! It seems like no two chondrules are the same and heaps of them are armoured. Under magnification you can see inclusions within inclusions (achondritic clasts?) and the colours are pretty spectacular! All in all, it's like a solidified primordial Solar System stew! Cheers, Jeff KuykenI.M.C.A. #3085www.meteorites.com.auwww.meteoritesaustralia.com IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click HereBT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the piece in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have a fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. From: Aubrey Whymark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:30:56 + (GMT) Armoured chondrules are when the chondrule is surrounded by a thin rim of metal. They probably form due to impact shock melting. Aubrey Anita Westlake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: BA285063-5BCE-11D4-AF8D-0050DAC67E11C6981348-9CED-49B6-A399-8218FB42F3B9repeat#eff3f7left0pxANIM3D00-NONE---0ANIM3D00-NONE---16486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC6803006486DDE0-3EFD-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC680301C3C52140-4147-11D4-BA3D-0050DAC680300X-ASN,X-ASH,X-AN,X-AP,X-AD;Love the "Solar System Stew" description. By the way, what do you mean by "armoured"? Anita ---Original Message--- From: Jeff Kuyken Date: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:34:09 AM To: Meteorite List Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 G'day folks, I just received a slice of NWA 1933 from Mike Farmer today. I strongly recommend taking a look at the pics. This is one of the; if not THE BEST, ordinary chondrites I have ever seen! It seems like no two chondrules are the same and heaps of them are armoured. Under magnification you can see inclusions within inclusions (achondritic clasts?) and the colours are pretty spectacular! All in all, it's like a solidified primordial Solar System stew! Cheers, Jeff Kuyken I.M.C.A. #3085 www.meteorites.com.au www.meteoritesaustralia.com IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here - BT Yahoo! Broadband - Free modem offer, sign up online today and save £80 _ Personalizza MSN Messenger con sfondi e fotografie! http://www.ilovemessenger.msn.it/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Matt River wrote: Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the piece in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have a fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. Whatever you say Matt(eo). __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
"Whatever you say Matt(eo)." Good call Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA #6168 - Original Message - From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > > > Matt River wrote: > > > Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the > > piece in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm > > I have a fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor > > chondrules. > > Whatever you say Matt(eo). > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Rover Finds Mineral Possibly Linked to Water
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/30/science/space/30CND-MARS.html Mars Rover Finds Mineral Possibly Linked to Water By KENNETH CHANG New York Times January 30, 2004 PASADENA, Calif. - The Mars rover Opportunity has discovered the iron oxide - a possible sign of water from Mars' ancient past - that was the original motivation for sending it to a broad plain near the planet's equator. On Earth, the iron oxide, known as gray hematite, usually forms in the presence of water, either hot springs or the bottom of a lake or sea, although it can also form out of oxygen-rich lava without water. >From orbit, the Mars Odyssey spacecraft had spotted the color signature of a hematite deposit the size of Oklahoma in the plain, known as Meridiani Planum. Opportunity landed last Sunday in a particularly flat section in the western half of Meridiani Planum. The deployment of Opportunity continues so smoothly that for the second day in a row, mission controllers moved up by a day the time when Opportunity will drive off its landing platform. For the trip to Mars, the rover was folded up to fit within a triangular pyramid. After landing, the pyramid opened like flower petals, forming a platform. For the past several days, controllers extended the rover's wheels, turned on instruments and tested equipment. If preparations continue without hitches, Opportunity will drive about 10 feet straight off the front of the lander early Saturday morning, its seventh day on Mars. By contrast, Opportunity's twin rover, Spirit, which landed on the opposite side of Mars three weeks before Opportunity, did not start its drive until its 12th day. With Spirit, air bags used to cushion the landing blocked the forward exit ramp - a piece of reinforced fabric - so controllers swiveled it by 120 degrees to take a different ramp. Opportunity has no such obstacles. "This is a cake walk by comparison," said Kevin Burke, the lead engineer for handling the lander exits. "Realistically it's pretty benign." Early this morning, engineers rehearsed the roll-off with a mock-up at a test laboratory at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, which is running the two rover missions. To ease the exit, controllers have pushed the back "petal" down, pitching the rover forward at an angle of 12 degrees. In the test, the engineers have put the mock-up in a similar pose. It looks like a swimmer about to jump off a diving board. At 5:17 a.m. Pacific time, the mock-up rover rolled off the mock-up lander without incident, to a round of applause from the onlookers, the 546th and final such test. "It was more a show-and-tell" to curious scientists and engineers, Mr. Burke said. "In this case, it's the simplest of tests." >From its stationary perch on the lander, Opportunity has already taken a 360-degree photographic panorama of its surreal, largely barren surroundings. By luck, it ended up in a shallow, 20-yard-wide crater with exposed bedrock, which scientists hope will tell the geological history of Meridiani Planum. The bedrock contains thin layers, which could be layers of sediment carried by ancient flows of water. The layers could also be volcanic ash from successive eruptions or wind-blown sediments. Today scientists got their first look at data from an instrument that looks at infrared light radiated from the rocks and soil. The mix of infrared wavelengths identifies certain minerals. Hematite has the same composition as rust - two parts iron, three parts oxygen - but when the atoms are stacked into crystals the size of sand grains or larger, the mineral is gray, not red. As had been expected by the scientists, the dark pebbles and gravel on the surface contain hematite. But the fine reddish soil beneath the gravel did not show any signs of hematite, nor did the exposed bedrock. This raises a new hematite question. "This is what is in the back of my mind: Where did it come from?" said Dr. Wendy M. Calvin, a professor of geology at the University of Nevada at Reno and a member of the science team. In places where the rover had bounced on landing, the pebbles vanish, leaving sharp imprints of the air bags in the reddish soil. The hematite disappeared, too. "We don't see it in smushed areas," she said. "I don't know what happened to it." If the gravel had just been pushed under the surface, as some of the scientists believe, then the hematite should still be evident, she said. The alternate hypothesis is that the impacts pulverized the particles into tiny dust particles, too small to radiate the telltale hematite color signature. When Opportunity rolls off the lander, it will stick instruments at the end of a mechanical arm into the soil, which should be better able to identify the minerals there. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Scientists Puzzle Over Ice From Sky in New Zealand
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/storydisplay.cfm?storyID=3546593 Scientists puzzle over ice from sky By STUART DYE The New Zealand Herald January 31, 2004 When a mysterious ball of ice crashed through Jan Robertson's house, the 80-year-old had no idea she would plunge New Zealand into the centre of a scientific frenzy. Geochemists, astrophysicists, meteorologists and geologists in Brazil, China, Spain and Russia believe the intrusion may have been New Zealand's first "megacryometeor". To the layman that is hailstones - jumbo hailstones. Early investigations by the Civil Aviation Authority suggest that the ice contained chlorine, an indication that it had been treated by man. "We understand there were two flights over the area at the time and it's possible a leak in an aircraft water pipe caused the block," said CAA spokesman Bill Sommer. However, inspections of both aircraft have revealed no signs of where the ice could have come from. Mrs Robertson got used to phone calls from scientists around the world but yesterday, 10 days after the incident, she said things had quietened down. She was cleaning her Meadowbank home and her husband, Bruce, was in the garden when the ice missile the size of a rugby ball, travelling at about 400km/h, hurtled through the kitchen roof. The International Working Group Fall of Blocks of Ice (IWGFBI) is a fledgling team of renowned scientists dedicated to investigating megacryometeors. There have been 50 documented cases around the world. Ice balls have punched holes in roofs, smashed car windshields and whizzed past people's heads. The group's founder, Jesus Martinez-Frias, a planetary geologist, began investigating the ice falls after a spate in Spain three years ago. It started with a soccer-ball-sized chunk plummeting from the sky on a sunny Madrid day and smashing through a parked car. In something resembling a biblical plague, pieces of ice weighing up to 3kg rained on Spain out of cloudless skies for 10 days, then the phenomenon ended as suddenly as it began. At first, scientists thought the giant hail was unique to Spain. But they have accumulated evidence that megacryometeors are a global event and have documented ice balls falling from cloudless skies everywhere from China to the United States. They believe the 50 confirmed falls are a fraction of the actual number - most may hit unoccupied areas or melt before discovery. The average weight is 12 to 15kg, but one whopper in Brazil tipped the scales at 200kg - the size of a V8 car engine. Alarming as this may be for people's homes, cars and health, the scientists have a different concern. "I'm not worried that a block of ice may fall on your head," said Professor Martinez-Frias, speaking from Madrid. "I'm worried that great blocks of ice are forming where they shouldn't exist." His team quickly ruled out obvious explanations. The ice balls, for instance, were not frozen water from toilets flushed on jetliners - they lacked urine or disinfectant traces. They could not be debris from a comet as lab tests showed that megacryometeors had the distinctive chemical signature of ice in ordinary terrestrial hailstones. That leaves monster hailstones forming in a cloudless sky - a notion that defies more than a century of research on hail formation. Scientists are concentrating on two possibilities. One, that megacryometeors are a weird byproduct of global warming; two, that ice crystals in aircraft contrails left floating in the air for days are swept through cold, humid air pockets, forming large balls. Neither theory is particularly popular. "I don't like to claim that anything is impossible, but this comes awfully close," says Charles Knight, a hail expert at the University Corporation for Atmospheric Research in Colorado. The worry is that, if megacryometeors are a result of global warming, they are likely to increase. Professor Martinez and his colleagues are pooling their knowledge, but an answer is likely to take years. How hail forms * Hail forms in the updrafts and downdrafts of thunderstorms. * Freezing particles join as they are tossed round in the wind and the hailstone grows, layer by layer. * Megacryometeors show the telltale onion skin layering seen in hailstones. * They also contain dust particles and air pockets found in hail. * But they are formed in cloudless skies, a notion that defies research on hail formation. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tucson Ring - eBayad - delete if necessary
Hi, Just a word to advise that if you are interested I have a 2g piece of the Tucson Ring to sell... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2221944672 Yours if you are interested! best dave IMCA #0092 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] STARDUST Update - January 30, 2004
Stardust Status Report January 30, 2004 The Stardust team had daily communications with the spacecraft in the past week. Telemetry relayed from the spacecraft indicates it remains in very good shape after its close encounter of the cometary kind back on January 2. The Stardust team is preparing for a deep space maneuver that will occur next week. This past week, a science team teleconference was held that included both US and foreign science team members. The focus was to complete data analyses that will be presented at the Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in March. Information on the present position and orbits of the Stardust spacecraft and comet Wild 2 may be found on the "Where Is Stardust Right Now?" web page located at: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/scnow.html For more information on the Stardust mission -- the first ever comet sample-return mission -- please visit the Stardust home page: http://stardust.jpl.nasa.gov . __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] RE: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3
Hello List, I was very curious how my "silent auction" would be received. I suspected that there might be a sizeable number of people who are not fond of the openly public aspects of eBay auction bidding. Even more likely, that some prospective bidders were being discouraged from bidding on the overly publicized Nevada meteorite auctions. Some of those suspicions seemed to have been confirmed. I have received offers from people who I have never seen bid on eBay. There are still 2 hours to enter an offer, but I am already glad that I tried out this "best offer" format. Because, by having this "silent auction" I've got to meet some List members for the first time, people who have a similar interest in Nevada meteorites, people who are interested in meteorite-recovery, and people who have NEVER before bid on any of my eBay auctions. I have been encouraged by all of this, and plan to make more of these "offers" in the future. Bob V. - Original Message --- [meteorite-list] AD: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3 Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:01:19 -0800 (PST) http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm While much attention is being directed towards the Tucson Show, here is an offer for you to consider prior to that event. I am making available for the first time ever, a 1.5gram polished fragment of a new Carbonaceous Chondrite - a CO3 - the rarest of the rare Nevada meteorites. Because of the upcoming Tucson Show, this offer is only good for this week!! I'm directing this offer to those of you who dislike bidding on eBay auctions - for whatever reason! See if this novel approach appeals to you: BEST OFFER gets this specimen. The "best offer" price will NOT be made public! The name of the person with the "best offer" will NOT be made public! (Think about it. When I say "confidential", you know it STAYS "confidential"!) This is a PRIVATE offer. There is NO BIDDING! (So, when you make your offer, don't bother asking me whether it is "too low" or "too high"! I'm serious. I said that the "best offers are "confidential" and they will STAY "confidential"! I'm also curious. I wonder if there are collectors who would prefer this over an eBay auction?) You make your "best offer". Within the two (2) day time limit of this offer, you can raise or retract your "best offer"! "Best offer" means best offer. I reserve the right to refuse any "best offers", particularly if I perceive any wrong-doing, or a person makes public their "best offer" prior to the deadline of this PRIVATE offer. This offer is only good for this week, with a deadline of NOON PST Friday the 30th. Who ever has the best offer by NOON PST Friday, gets this specimen! (By the way, did I mention the low TKW?) This meteorite was first found by myself, Bob Verish, (on 2002 November 30) with additional fragments being subsequently recovered by members of my Meteorite-Recovery Team. It has been classified by UCLA as being a carbonaceous chondrite: CO3, Fa10.2-35.5, S1, W3 - - The Total Known Weight (TKW) is only 106.8 grams. Piecing these fragments together has met with very limited success. Like a "puzzle" with as many as 30% of its pieces missing, the majority of the fragments do not fit together. Before anymore of these small fragments are incorporated into the reconstructed masses, I would like to generate interest in this meteorite with the research community by going public with this specimen. By using these orphaned fragments as samples for test purposes, I can avoid cut loss by not having to make anymore cuts into this meteorite. The type specimen at UCLA consists primarily of about a dozen of these small fragments. What I am looking to get out of this exercise is an appraisal value for this meteorite for tax purposes on future donations. So, send me an offer, all reasonable offers will be seriously considered. (But only in the case of EXCEPTIONAL trade offers - meaning, ONLY offers from institutions where researchers are interested in using this meteorite in their studies - they are welcomed, as well.) Images of the 1.5 gram specimen that is being offered can be seen on this web page : http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm (A 1 centimeter cube-scale can be seen to the right of the stone in the first image.) The name for this meteorite is still pending approval. I assign a serial number to ALL of my finds. The serial number for this fragment is NV021130E1. Should you have any questions, contact me before making an offer. Bob V. __ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
now all people seen Matteo in the all posts From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:41:04 -0700 Matt River wrote: Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the piece in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have a fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. Whatever you say Matt(eo). _ Nuovo MSN Messenger con sfondi e giochi! http://messenger.msn.it/ Provalo subito! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Not in all. Only in those with struck fairies :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt River Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 now all people seen Matteo in the all posts >From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:41:04 -0700 > > > >Matt River wrote: > >>Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the >>piece >>in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have a >>fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. > >Whatever you say Matt(eo). > _ Nuovo MSN Messenger con sfondi e giochi! http://messenger.msn.it/ Provalo subito! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933
Hello Matt and List, Matteo wrote; "now all people seen Matteo in the all posts" Matteo, you should of switched translators! Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA #6168 - Original Message - From: Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 11:39 AM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > Not in all. Only in those with struck fairies :-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > River > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > > > > now all people seen Matteo in the all posts > > > >From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > >Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:41:04 -0700 > > > > > > > >Matt River wrote: > > > >>Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the > >>piece > >>in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have > a > >>fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. > > > >Whatever you say Matt(eo). > > > > _ > Nuovo MSN Messenger con sfondi e giochi! http://messenger.msn.it/ > Provalo > subito! > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] ???
Wait a minute, How is Matteo posting AT ALL? Art dumped him from the METEORITE CENTRAL list. Shortly thereafter he was booted for obscenities, etc, from the collectors' list. How is ANYTHING he says getting through?? RSVP Michael on 1/30/04 10:39 AM, Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not in all. Only in those with struck fairies :-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > River > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > > > > now all people seen Matteo in the all posts > > >> From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 >> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:41:04 -0700 >> >> >> >> Matt River wrote: >> >>> Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the >>> piece >>> in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have > a >>> fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. >> >> Whatever you say Matt(eo). >> > > _ > Nuovo MSN Messenger con sfondi e giochi! http://messenger.msn.it/ > Provalo > subito! > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- When Jesus said "Love your enemies" I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - January 26-30, 2004
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES January 26-30, 2004 o Opportunity Has Landed! (Released 26 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040126a.html o Meridiani Planum (Released 27 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040127a.html o Equatorial Crater in Meridiani (Released 28 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040128a.html o Northwest Meridiani (Released 29 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040129a.html o Craters within Craters in Meridiani (Released 30 January 2004) http://themis.la.asu.edu/zoom-20040130a.html All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ad: Murchision 2+ grams + more...
Greetings List, A few auctions this week that end on Monday Feb. 2nd, including: Murchison CM2 - 2+ grams Allende CV3 slice with a full back side of fusion crust Australite tektite fragment with a partial flanged rim 5 cut Gibeon triangles and a few more. all at $5.00 opening bid, no reserve. http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/meteoriteusa.com/ Thank you for your bids. John Sinclair Go Panthers! __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Ke Zoukai from China
Hello List Someone have actual address to Ke Zoukai from China ? -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]- http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.PolandMET.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.Gao-Guenie.com GSM +48(607)535 195 [ Member of: Polish Meteoritical Society ] __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] scavenger hunt; Tiny Mesoiderite & pallasite indv.
Hello List, I am on the a scavenger hunt, I need a mesoiderite and/or pallasite individual about 3 to 5 grams. I do not know if they even come this small, I know I never heard of one. I am not looking for a rusted out skeleton of a pallasite, I need something that looks like a meteorite. Anybody have a individual this small, have you seen or heard of one this small? A mater of fact, I am looking for a lot of meteorites this size, but stones need to be between 2 and 3 grams and all need to be inexpensive unless you are willing to trade. : ) PS. Sorry if this comes up twice, for about the last month I have had to post 2 to 4 times to get one to post? Thanks, Tom peregrineflier <>< IMCA #6168 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] scavenger hunt; Tiny Mesoiderite & pallasite indv.
Tom. Many small Estherville Mesosiderite "nuggets" are in this size range and are the only small stoney iron individuals I'm aware of. Thousands of these were collected after the fall but most are locked up in museums and collections so unfortunately, they're not cheap. Mike Farmer has a 4 gram individual on his site at: http://www.meteoriteguy.com/index This may or may not help your quest. Regards, Frank - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 2:45 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] scavenger hunt; Tiny Mesoiderite & pallasite indv. > Hello List, I am on the a scavenger hunt, I need a mesoiderite and/or > pallasite > individual about 3 to 5 grams. I do not know if they even come this small, > I know I never heard of one. I am not looking for a rusted out skeleton of a > pallasite, I need something that looks like a meteorite. Anybody have a > individual this small, have you seen or heard of one this small? A mater of > fact, I am looking for a lot of meteorites this size, but stones need to be > between 2 and 3 grams and all need to be inexpensive unless you are willing > to trade. : ) > > PS. Sorry if this comes up twice, for about the last month I have had to > post 2 to 4 times to get one to post? > > Thanks, Tom > peregrineflier <>< > IMCA #6168 > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] RE: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3
Bob, I'm sure there are many who appreciate this opportunity to acquire Nevada meteorites found by your team...especially from you personally. This novel approach and the quality of recent finds will give many of us hope for a positive future for Nevada meteorite collecting. Best regards, John > Hello List, > > I was very curious how my "silent auction" would be > received. I suspected that there might be a sizeable > number of people who are not fond of the openly public > aspects of eBay auction bidding. Even more likely, > that some prospective bidders were being discouraged > from bidding on the overly publicized Nevada meteorite > auctions. Some of those suspicions seemed to have > been confirmed. I have received offers from people > who I have never seen bid on eBay. > > There are still 2 hours to enter an offer, but I am > already glad that I tried out this "best offer" > format. Because, by having this "silent auction" I've > got to meet some List members for the first time, > people who have a similar interest in Nevada > meteorites, people who are interested in > meteorite-recovery, and people who have NEVER before > bid on any of my eBay auctions. > > I have been encouraged by all of this, and plan to > make more of these "offers" in the future. > > Bob V. > > - Original Message --- > > [meteorite-list] AD: Unique Offer - Nevada CO3 > Robert Verish [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Wed, 28 Jan 2004 21:01:19 -0800 (PST) > > > http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm > > While much attention is being directed towards the > Tucson Show, here is an offer for you to consider > prior to that event. > > I am making available for the first time ever, a > 1.5gram polished fragment of a new Carbonaceous > Chondrite - a CO3 - the rarest of the rare Nevada > meteorites. > > Because of the upcoming Tucson Show, this offer is > only good for this week!! > > I'm directing this offer to those of you who dislike > bidding on eBay auctions - for whatever reason! > See if this novel approach appeals to you: > > BEST OFFER gets this specimen. > The "best offer" price will NOT be made public! > The name of the person with the "best offer" will NOT > be made public! > > (Think about it. When I say "confidential", you know > it STAYS "confidential"!) > > This is a PRIVATE offer. > There is NO BIDDING! > > (So, when you make your offer, don't bother asking me > whether it is "too low" or "too high"! > I'm serious. I said that the "best offers are > "confidential" and they will STAY "confidential"! > I'm also curious. I wonder if there are collectors > who would prefer this over an eBay auction?) > > You make your "best offer". > Within the two (2) day time limit of this offer, you > can raise or retract your "best offer"! > "Best offer" means best offer. > I reserve the right to refuse any "best offers", > particularly if I perceive any wrong-doing, > or a person makes public their "best offer" prior to > the deadline of this PRIVATE offer. > > This offer is only good for this week, with a deadline > of NOON PST Friday the 30th. > > Who ever has the best offer by NOON PST Friday, gets > this specimen! > > (By the way, did I mention the low TKW?) > > This meteorite was first found by myself, Bob Verish, > (on 2002 November 30) with additional fragments being > subsequently recovered by members of my > Meteorite-Recovery Team. It has been classified by > UCLA as being a carbonaceous chondrite: CO3, > Fa10.2-35.5, S1, W3 - - The Total Known Weight (TKW) > is only 106.8 grams. Piecing these fragments together > has met with very limited success. Like a "puzzle" > with as many as 30% of its pieces missing, the > majority of the fragments do not fit together. Before > anymore of these small fragments are incorporated into > the reconstructed masses, I would like to generate > interest in this meteorite with the research community > by going public with this specimen. By using these > orphaned fragments as samples for test purposes, I can > avoid cut loss by not having to make anymore cuts into > this meteorite. The type specimen at UCLA consists > primarily of about a dozen of these small fragments. > What I am looking to get out of this exercise is an > appraisal value for this meteorite for tax purposes on > future donations. So, send me an offer, all reasonable > offers will be seriously considered. (But only in the > case of EXCEPTIONAL trade offers - meaning, ONLY > offers from institutions where researchers are > interested in using this meteorite in their studies - > they are welcomed, as well.) > > Images of the 1.5 gram specimen that is being offered > can be seen on this web page : > http://meteorite-recovery.tripod.com/co3/co3-01.htm > (A 1 centimeter cube-scale can be seen to the right of > the stone in the first image.) > The name for this meteorite is still pending approval. > > I assign a serial number to ALL of my finds. The > seri
[meteorite-list] Two Working Rovers On Martian Soil Expected By Saturday Morning
MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE JET PROPULSION LABORATORY CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION PASADENA, CALIF. 91109. TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011 http://www.jpl.nasa.gov Guy Webster (818) 354-5011 Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif. Donald Savage (202) 358-1547 NASA Headquarters, Washington, D.C. NEWS RELEASE: 2004-046 January 30, 2004 TWO WORKING ROVERS ON MARTIAN SOIL EXPECTED BY SATURDAY MORNING Ground controllers plan to tell Opportunity to drive off its lander early Saturday, and with Spirit now back in working order, NASA should soon have two healthy rovers loose on Mars. Early today, the controllers at NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif., decided to move up the time for Opportunity's roll-off by nearly 24 hours, to the rover's seventh martian day since landing last weekend. "We're ahead of schedule and taking advantage of the fact that Opportunity treats us well," said JPL's Daniel Limonadi, rover systems engineer. "We feel it's good to egress today and get ready to do science earlier with six wheels on the ground in Meridiani Planum." Dr. Ray Arvidson of Washington University in St. Louis, deputy principal investigator for the rover science instruments, said, "We're totally ecstatic that we're going to be on the surface." If a final check finds conditions OK for sending the egress commands at about 12:30 a.m. Saturday, Pacific Standard Time, confirmation of the roll-off would be expected between 3 a.m. and 4 a.m. PST. Opportunity's twin Mars Exploration Rover, Spirit, has sent back its first new science data in more than a week. On Thursday, it took and transmitted panoramic camera images including views of two light-colored rocks, nicknamed Cake and Blanco. Scientists are considering those rocks as possible targets for up-close examination after Spirit finishes inspection of the rock called Adirondack over the next few days. Spirit has also returned microscopic images and Moessbauer spectrometer readings of Adirondack taken the day before the rover developed computer and communication problems on Jan. 22. Both are unprecedented investigations of any rock on another planet. The microscopic images indicate Adirondack is a hard, crystalline rock. "If you had a hammer and whacked that rock, it would ring," Arvidson said. Moessbauer readings allow scientists to determine what types of iron-bearing minerals are in a rock. "What made us extremely happy when we saw the graph for the first time were the small peaks," said Dr. Bodo Bernhardt, a member of the rover science team from the University of Mainz, Germany, which provided the instrument. The peaks large and small in the spectrum reveal that the minerals in Adirondack include olivine, pyroxene and magnetite. That composition is common in volcanic basalt rocks on Earth, said science-team member Dr. Dick Morris of NASA's Johnson Space Center, Houston. In coming days, scientists plan to use Spirit's rock abrasion tool to grind the weathered surface off of a small area on Adirondack to inspect its interior. Later plans include examining a nearby whitish rock, then driving toward a crater nicknamed Bonneville that's about 250 meters (820 feet) away. Researchers will use the rover to search for rocks that may have been excavated from below the surface and tossed outward by the impact that dug the crater. If Spirit can reach the rim, scientists hope to see outcrops in the crater walls. Engineers are continuing to restore Spirit to full health as the rover makes scientific observations, said JPL's Dr. Mark Adler, mission manager. They plan to delete from the rover's flash memory a large amount of information stored before landing, then resume operating Spirit in a normal mode that uses flash memory. Halfway around the planet, Opportunity's main task in the days after roll-off will be to take microscopic images and spectrometer readings of the soil close to the lander. Within about a week, controllers anticipate sending the rover to an outcrop of bedrock about 8 meters (26 feet) northwest of the lander. Opportunity currently sits near the center of a crater 22 meters (72 feet) across and 3 meters (10 feet) deep. A new three-dimensional model of the crater, created from information in stereo images, will provide a reference for rover driving within the crater and later for choosing a route out onto the surrounding plains, said Dr. Ron Li, a rover science team member from Ohio State University, Columbus. This is the first time a crater on another planet has been mapped from inside the crater. JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, manages the Mars Exploration Rover project for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. Images and additional information about the project are available from JPL at http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov and from Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., at http://athena.cornell.edu/ . -end- _
[meteorite-list] Guide to Meteorites
Hello Everyone, Here is a nice educator oriented guide to meteorites, with basic text, and nice pictures that covers the basics, published by NASA. The URL my get truncated, in which case just copy and past the fist, then second half into your browser window. -Walter http://spacelink.nasa.gov/Instructional.Materials/NASA.Educational.Products/Exploring.Meteorite.Mysteries/ --www.branchmeteorites.com
[meteorite-list] Cutting services in Tucson?
Good Evening everyone; Does anyone know if any of the meteorite dealers at the Tucson show offer cutting services during the show? Regards, Art __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
Thanks John,
Dont sell yourself short- you're not a slow American. If
you're a slow American then I'm "so slow" that I'm on a respirator and
waiting for a new heart. I was a spelling champ, math was the most useless
bit of crap at the young age of 13+ onward through high school. But that
was quite a while back. If you can do those calculations you're either very
young or you practice them , or it's part of you're job , or you had to
help your kid with physics. Whatever it may be, you're ahead of a lot of
people and not slow. But be carefull if you ever start bathing meteorites.
Researchers at Corn Stalk, Nebraska University For Human Behavior have
found that bathing meteorites (in warm scented water) can be a very sensual
experience and can also lead to abuse, if you're so pre-disposed. Then if
you're caught , you're labeled a rock molester, and the neighborhood has
to get notified of your sad criminal propensity for jumping fences and
touching the unprotected rocks. Dont even start bathing meteorites- they'll
ruin your life.
And you know what they do to rock touchers in prison. ={:-)>
Hope I did'nt scare you. You can tell it's Friday night, cant you?
G O O D N I G H T - Enjoy your weekend. ~~*
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Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorwrong help?
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Roman and others,
Specific gravity...we've all seen the picture of weighing a specimen out of
water and then in water to come up with specific gravity. You need a scale
that can hang the object you are weighing in the water. I don't remember
the
method details but the answer is usually stated in grams per centimeter
cubed.
I have used my own method for a while to do the same where I weigh the
object
on a scale and convert that weight to ounces (dumb English system!)
Then I use a cylinder(round) shaped coffee can for small items, or a
straight
sided bucket for larger items to determine the volume of the object by the
change in height of the water: first without the object and then with the
object. As a slow American I use a stick rule in inches to figure this out.
so it goes like this:
determine weight in OUNCES
Determine the change in volume in the water level by measuring the:
HEIGHT without object first
HEIGHT with the object second
The difference in height in inches is then used to calculate the SG along
with some conversions factors to get it into grams/centimeter cubed.
change or delta Volume = Area of container circle x inches in
height(change)
delta V =(pie or 3.14...)x diameter(inches) squared)x(height change in
inches)
delta V is a number in inches cubed
the conversion formula without all the details is as follows:
(object in OUNCES/delta V in inches cubed)x(0.06102/0.03527) = SG in
grams/cm
0.06102 is the conversion of cubic inches to cubic centimeters
0.03527 is the conversion of ounces to grams.
For the smart users of metric the metric systemthe answer is determined
by the change in volume in cubic centimeters cubed and the weight in grams
or:
Weight in grams/change in Volume in centimetes cubed (now that seems easier
doesn't it) = grams/cm cubed
Bottom line is most rocks have SG of 1.5 to 3, heavier rocks full of iron
like stony meteorites are in the 3 to 5 range, and steel and it's metal
friends like iron meteorites are in the neighborhood of 7 to 8. Silver and
Lead in the 10 to 11 range and gold all the way up near 18 to 19.
Have fun and don't get wet. (I don't do this with known meteorites)
John
> Hi Tom. I have a hell of a collection of US STEEL processed metal
chunks
> and raw ore (especially the terrestrial gorgeous blood red, sometimes
> orange/brown and even fluorescent bright yellow Iron Ores , from the
500Ft.
> down level I was told by a Smelter bldg. worker 20yrs. back-half the
stuff
I
> havent figured out yet. They share one common trait- they are all hard
> -you'll have a hard time scratcing one but they do chip-off fairly
easily.
> Some have a black as night oxide coating. Some have a brown and light
brown
> coating, but they're not mine ore-they're processed rare earth
> metals/elements -by electrolysis or what have ya.. You know , there's
one
> piece that has the dimensions 2+1/2 x 2+1/2 x1 inches , and you have
to
> struggle picking it up with your index finger and thumb- Yes, I do have
> three more fully functioning fingers Tom. They sure have their
differences
> as far as hardness ,streak, weight in the hand (specific gravity).I wish
> someone would show me how you test a sample for its specific gravity. My
> pieces, that I found, as far away as 2miles from the USX Ore
Locomotives
> Tracks are all different processed metals for specific custom alloying
> metals ,I think? I used to do some metal-detecting in this humongous
> old-growth 300yr. old trees Pubic Park as Matteo would say, and I figure
RE: [meteorite-list] ???
Yo Michael, There's a lot more to Matteo then we are led to believe. This guy is involved with some Programming Tech-types. Has anyone actually met the man. The mispelling of English words almost seems deliberate. I speak three different languages and know how English is usually butchered and his "speak" just does'nt fit the profile of a true foreigner who is desperately trying to speak English (American) and unintentionally messes up. But I've never met him , and could be wrong. Has Farmer or you met the guy? L A T E R From: Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bernhard \"Rendelius\" Rems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [meteorite-list] ??? Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 11:38:08 -0800 Wait a minute, How is Matteo posting AT ALL? Art dumped him from the METEORITE CENTRAL list. Shortly thereafter he was booted for obscenities, etc, from the collectors' list. How is ANYTHING he says getting through?? RSVP Michael on 1/30/04 10:39 AM, Bernhard "Rendelius" Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Not in all. Only in those with struck fairies :-) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt > River > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:32 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 > > > > now all people seen Matteo in the all posts > > >> From: DNAndrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: Matt River <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 1933 >> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:41:04 -0700 >> >> >> >> Matt River wrote: >> >>> Any of you have look Dhofar 008 Have many + chondrules. Look the >>> piece >>> in the Comet Shop site http://www.meteorites21.com/dhofar08.htm I have > a >>> fantastic slice in my collection and is full of multicolor chondrules. >> >> Whatever you say Matt(eo). >> > > _ > Nuovo MSN Messenger con sfondi e giochi! http://messenger.msn.it/ > Provalo > subito! > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- When Jesus said "Love your enemies" I think he probably meant don't kill them. Anonymous -- AMAZING photos of Aurora Borealis, etc. http://faculty.rmwc.edu/tmichalik/atmosphere.htm -- Hubble space telescope - AMAZING photos!: http://wires.news.com.au/special/mm/030811-hubble.htm -- http://www.costofwar.com/ -- SUPPORT OUR TROUPS: http://www.takebackthemedia.com/onearmy.html -- Worth Seeing: Earth at night from satellite: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/0011/earthlights_dmsp_big.jpg -- - Interactive Lady Liberty: http://doody36.home.attbi.com/liberty.htm -- Earth - variety of choices: http://www.fourmilab.ch/earthview/vplanet.html -- Michael Blood Meteorites: http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ High-speed usersbe more efficient online with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=byoa/prem&ST=1 __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
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