Re: [meteorite-list] Off Topic - Mount St. Helens

2004-10-01 Thread Adam Hupe
Oh, I get it, I misspelled Plume.  I bet it would have shot a plum up that
 high if it was anywhere near the vent.  Anyway, Dr. Irving has been acting
 as a live commentary all afternoon on Q13 Fox and will be talking about it
 again tonight at 10:00 PM if there are any local viewers on the list.  This
 may be your chance put a face on one of the scientists who was the first to
 study 75% of the planetary material coming out of NWA the last couple of
 years.  I find it very fascinating and it looks like the seismic activity
is
 returning meaning maybe another event.

 All the best,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
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Re: [meteorite-list] AW: General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Charlie Devine
Norbert, Bernhard, Matt, and list

A US registered package must be signed for by each and every postal
worker who handles it.  Should it disappear, the powers that be go
straight to the last person who signed for it.
Registered mail is for valuables.  Up to the individual to decide if
$200 is valuable, or if it need be a lot higher in value to justify
registered mail.  All registered packages are handled seperately from
all other classes of mail.  You can settle for less expensive insured
mail, but such packages are routed with all other parcels.  Registered
items are kept in locked cages and conveyed to branch offices apart from
the flood of mail and packages that comprise the bulk of mail volume.
Getting it signed for every step of the way is as close to TLC as the
post office gets, so if it's valuable to you as a buyer or seller, send
it registered.

Best wishes,
Charlie Devine
USPS
Wrwick, R.I.
USA

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[meteorite-list] campo sales L5 and meteorite sale

2004-10-01 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hello list.Just a reminder that I have pictures of all 27 stones of CAMPO
SALES L5 Meteorite lots forsale.The price per gram will astound you.Also
my 3 for 1 sale ends tonight at 10 pm chicago time.

  steve

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I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
 
 









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[meteorite-list] References for Pantar, Mezo-Maderas and Searsmont?

2004-10-01 Thread Matt Morgan
Hello:
Does anyone out there have some references of good articales for the Pantar, 
MezoâMaderas and Searsmont falls? After acquiring these in an exchange I would like 
to read more about them.  Any help is appreciated!
Thanks,
<><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
eBay user id: mhmeteorites


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Re: [meteorite-list] Off Topic - Mount St. Helens

2004-10-01 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Wonder if that will become known as "the first plum shot into space"?
Bet it's 'plum jelly' now.
Adam Hupe wrote:
Hi List,
I just heard from Dr. Irving (One of the scientists that is a member of Team
LunarRock) that Mount Saint Helens had a steam explosion sending up a plum
16,000 feet.  I am going to the University of Washington tomorrow to look at
the seismographs just for fun.  They are registering up to four earthquakes
a minute showing the volcano is very much alive.  It will be interesting to
see if the earthquakes continue after this steam explosion.
All the best,

Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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Re: [meteorite-list] Vesta meteorite question.

2004-10-01 Thread MexicoDoug
Hola Dave,

You can check out my web page. This is my favorite subject in 
meteorites, if you can get past the cute references in the 
begining of the page, and most of this is explained.

http://www.diogenite.com

then click on the Vesta and the Diogenite links!
Welcome to the Vesta Fan Club...
Saludos, Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] NPA 11-12-1922 Odessa Meteorite Found Near "Blowout"

2004-10-01 Thread Jerry A. Wallace
Hi Mark,
As usual, I have enjoyed all of your postings, but this one in 
particular is
special to me, so I would like to avail myself of your offer for the pdf 
file
of it.

I was born in Mexia, a small town of around 4,500 (at the time) in 1942.
Mexia is located about 34 miles SE of Waco (considered the eastern part
of central Texas.) I used to hang around the old newspaper office and
printing plant when I was a kid there. I have many fond memories of the
place.
I moved with my family to Odessa in 1951, at the age of 9. Odessa is
about 350 miles west of Mexia. Odessa is at a much higher altitude than
Mexia and is within the northeastern boundary of the Chihuahuan Desert.
This area is considered semi arid.
I found my first piece of the Odessa meteorite at the crater in 1955,
thanks to a side trip made by a mentor of mine at the time. That was V.C
Wiggins, a former mayor of Odessa back in the '30s. He was a rockhound
of wide renown in the area and I was a Pebble Puppy member of the West
Texas Gems and Minerals Society. Mr. Wiggin's used to keep a Mason jar
filled with small fragments of the Odessa meteorite to give to school kids
who would drop by his rock shop. To be given one of the fragments was an
honor, but required that the kid(s) stand still for the 10 to 15 minute 
lecture
on the history and geology of the crater. Mr. Wiggin's was danged proud of
that depression.

We basically were on our way to the Big Bend area of Texas for a day of
agate hunting, but Mr. Wiggins had promised to take me to the crater for
some time, so he decided to go ahead and do it on this trip. It was cold,
misting rain, a little foggy, and just breaking daylight when I got my 
first
look at the crater. It was an almost mystical experience that I can 
still recall
in the minutest detail.

It wasn't until many years later that I learned that I must have stepped in
many of the long ago, now time removed footprints of Nininger and Barringer.
The crater, back then, was just a very large pit at the end of a very rough
country road beside a fence line and then a short walk down a cow trail.
Many improvements have taken place over the years. The crater area
today is vastly improved over what it was just a decade ago. Now there
is a really nice, modern, brick, air conditioned Museum and Visitors Center
on the NE edge of the crater rim with paved paths through the crater,
complete with well written explanations on signs posted along the trails
about various aspects of the meteorite and the crater. The museum houses
a really good collection of "museum quality" meteorite specimens from
around the world. And, there's a few picnic tables and barbeque pits
under a very large awning at the crater in case you want to sizzle some
steaks, fajitas, or rattlesnake fillets (if you're lucky enough to catch 
one)
while you're there. You really don't even have to remember to bring
charcoal briquettes to the party. We have hundreds of thousands of square
miles around here that is only good for growing mesquite, which is totally
worthless except for being the very best barbequing wood in the world.
And, IT'S FREE.

There is now an exit ramp off of Interstate 20 that leads directly to 
the new
paved road to the crater and Visitors Center. A far cry from the first time
I went. In fact, Interstate highways were still decades away back then. The
road is now fenced on both sides to keep the cows and pumpjacks off of it.
There's still a couple of old cattle guards to thumpity-thumpity over, 
though.

But best of all- IT'S FREE! That's right, there's absolutely no charge, 
unlike
that other notorious crater in the wilds of Arizona. However, there is a 
pickle
jar on the counter in the Visitor's Center labeled "DONATIONS".

So, anyone finding themselves in the vicinity of this little bitty place 
known
as West Texas, please make an effort to stop by the crater. It's (now) well
worth the effort and a thing the entire family can enjoy.

So, Mark, I guess you can see how coincidental this particular posting of
yours seems to me. The article being from a very small town newspaper-
rather than Dallas, Houston, Austin, or some other Texas city; and then 
it's
about something that would become important to me in my new hometown,
Odessa.

So if you would please, Mark, I would love to have a copy of the pdf scan
of the original story.
Many thanks,
Jerry Wallace
Odessa, Texas
PS... 1. Yes. I still have that piece of the Odessa Meteorite that I 
kicked up
and picked up in 1955. I've never thrown anything away. I really should 
live
in a very large warehouse. Shoot, I've still got all the banded agate I 
brought
back from that same trip in a nail keg somewhere.

2. No. I'm not a member of the Odessa Chamber of Commerce. In fact, I'm
not even a big fan of west Texas.
3. And, if you bring the family, give me a call when you come through to see
the crater. I have a Mason jar with some Odessa fragments in it for the 
kids,
if they can stand to listen to the 10 to 15 minute lec

[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images - September 27 - 0ctober 1, 2004

2004-10-01 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES
September 27 - 0ctober 1, 2004

o Candor Chasma Plateau (Released 27 September 2004)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html

o Layered Rock in Candor Chasma (Released 28 September 2004)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html

o Wind Etching in Candor Chasma (Released 29 September 2004)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html

o Candor Chasma Landslide (Released 30 September 2004)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html

o Candor Chasma Landslides (Released 1 October 2004)
  http://themis.asu.edu/zoom-20040927a.html

All of the THEMIS images are archived here:

http://themis.la.asu.edu/latest.html

NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission 
for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission 
Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University,
Tempe, in collaboration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. 
The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State 
University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor 
for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission 
operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a 
division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. 


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RE: [meteorite-list] Pasamonte...What is it?

2004-10-01 Thread Matt Morgan
No, eucrite

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Hello all,

In the book, Find a falling star, It states that Pasamonte is a
Howardite. 
Is this true?

Cj


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[meteorite-list] Pasamonte...What is it?

2004-10-01 Thread Peanut ..
Hello all,
In the book, Find a falling star, It states that Pasamonte is a Howardite. 
Is this true?

Cj
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[meteorite-list] Vesta meteorite question.

2004-10-01 Thread Dave Harris
Hi, I have been looking at my Vesta rocks - Millbillillie and so on, and
just wanted to confirm some facts and be corrected to!

Firstly - Tatouine - I believe is a Vesta sourced rock?, what about
howardites and polymict Eucrites?
And also, are olivine diogenites from Vesta and if so, do they represent a
layer of rock higher than Tatouine (due to their finer crystal grain and the
fact that Tatouine is mainly Olivine)?

Curiously yours!

dave

IMCA #0092
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Re: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.

2004-10-01 Thread Martin Altmann
Yes Stefan,

we have the worst place to sent from. German mail is the most expensive on
earth,
that's why always pay not only the package stuff, but also the larger part
of the shipping costs, if I list items in US-ebay - otherwise I couldn't
compete.

Mike Farmer is the best. Even if he looses a small specimen at 1buck, he
will charge 1buck for all shipment and he's the fastest in sending the
stuff.
The worst of the sellers, who lists each week his auctions, is I.K., who
asks 10$ shipment even for small crumbs sent within EU.

Martin A.

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From: "Stefan Ralew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bernhard Rems"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General
MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear


> Hi Bernhard and List,
>
> for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges
> for packages from Germany to Oversea locations:
>
> Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90)
> Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46)
> Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69)
>  up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92)
>up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84)
> Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52)
>
> It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have
> sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been
> lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from
> Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45).
> And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox).
> Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit
> more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in
> future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t
> available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I
> don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages.
>
> Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices?  $0.99 for the item
> and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more
> attentively in future. ;-)
>
> Best wishes,
> Stefan
>
> Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection
> Berlin/Germany
> www.meteoriten.com
>
>
>
> Bernhard Rems wrote:
>
> >And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for
> >unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-)
> >
> >Bernhard
> >
> >
>
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[meteorite-list] Blowing Off a Little Steam

2004-10-01 Thread VeIocity
Mt. St. Helens hit the boiling point today...

http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=1087&sid=ajrj9cIRbOJc&refer=top_world_news
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[meteorite-list] Off Topic - Mount St. Helens

2004-10-01 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi List,

I just heard from Dr. Irving (One of the scientists that is a member of Team
LunarRock) that Mount Saint Helens had a steam explosion sending up a plum
16,000 feet.  I am going to the University of Washington tomorrow to look at
the seismographs just for fun.  They are registering up to four earthquakes
a minute showing the volcano is very much alive.  It will be interesting to
see if the earthquakes continue after this steam explosion.

All the best,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
IMCA 2185
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[meteorite-list] Costs

2004-10-01 Thread Peanut ..
I think the main problems...At least with sellers, are the fees on ebay and 
Paypal. I paid 75% of what I made last month to fees!

Cj
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[meteorite-list] thread recycling

2004-10-01 Thread j . divelbiss
Hello all,

The following is only an observation and not an accusation, concern or even a problem 
for me.

I've been on the list about three years now and we seem to recycle certain subjects 
over and over again. Some of these are listed below and seem to pop up more often than 
most.

shipping costs and methods 
NWA 869 is a really nice cheap meteorite...a favorite
A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy 
w/responses
All NWA's are bad and are especially not worth squat unless classified with coordinates
NWA's and their variety is the best thing that ever happened to meteoritics
Tucson is coming soon...in 6 months
Tucson was really fun...last year
A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy 
w/responses
Certain dealers feel other dealers are a-holes, and vice-versa
meteorite prices are in ruin
veteran dealers and collectors long for the good old days
new dealers and collectors are glad for the desert boon
A certain list member is accused of screwy dealings, and he then shows his stupidisy 
w/responses
A list member quits the list and vows to never come back
The same list member is back on the list and hopes things will be better from now on

and on and on...but I love it anyway.

Thanx Art,

John





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Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread S. Ralew
Hi Tom and List,

> Mikes shipping was free for me, but cost him around 85 cents!
>
>
> Thanks, Tom


I have already understood. Then we have a sales volume of $ 0.14. This is a
really collector friendly price.

However, why do we "greedy" meteorite dealers money for our stones at all?
It`s a shame! We meteorite dealers have all big houses with  Swimming pools
and drive big cars and we press the last cent from the collectors. (ok,
usually I drive with my old Renault Twingo from Berlin up to the Sahara
because I want to spare my Bentley) ;-)

Dealers, let`s make an end to this depressing discussion. Open your treasure
boxes and give the collectors the rare meteorites free of charge!

Here my offer. The next three collectors who send me a email OFF LIST get
one of the following pieces from NWA2289, Rumuruti chondrite R3-6 for free.
Free specimen, free airmail shipping, free jewelbox.

NWA2289 slice 0.30 gm
NWA2289 slice 0.33 gm
NWA2289 slice 0.40 gm

I hope this helps! :-)

Best wishes,

Stefan
Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection
Berlin/ Germany
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RE: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.

2004-10-01 Thread Peanut ..
Hi All,
Shipping, in my opinion, should be a minimal part of a purchase. I 
understand it's an important part, but low shipping and good service will 
always bring a customer back for repeat sales. My shipping costs are based 
on weight. 95% of all meteorites I sell ship for $1.00 and international 
shipping from me rarely tops $2.00.

I consider the costs of the ziploc, the padded envelope, the specimen card 
and a little for my time and $2.00 usually covers it. I, like the Hupes also 
offer additional shipping options. I can send a package via 1st class or 
Airmail for $2.00 or less (Usually) or I can send Priority which is $4.00 or 
$5.00 to most Western European countries. (No Priority in most Eastern 
European countries yet)

As of today, I haven't had any problems with any Airmail packages getting 
"Lost" and I have shipped to countries all over the world.

I sell small pieces mind you, but I still believe the buyer should only pay 
the least that is necessary for them to get the item.

Just my thoughts,
Cj
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Re: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.

2004-10-01 Thread Steven Drummond
Hi List,
 It also depends on the weight you are shipping, I recently 
listed an auction for a 4 + kilo Campo 18 dollars included insurance and 
USPS Priority shipping (within the US only), Well I ended up eating 7 
dollars as it cost 25 dollars with insurance shipped priority USPS (not a 
real big problem ). I have never had a Priority package lost either way 
shipping or receiving. And the customer receives their package within 3 days 
usually.
  Internationally if you send a padded envelope it is much 
cheaper that a box is to ship, but if you are sending larger pieces that do 
not fit in a padded envelope  you have to use a box and will pay much more 
to ship.
  I try to only charge what I am charged to ship but 
sometimes you are off a bit one way or the other.

Best Regards to all .
   Steven Drummond
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From: "Dave Harris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "metlist" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:03 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] shipping costs.


Hi,
On some of the issues that Bernhard  raised - it does cost around $5 to $7
to send from the UK to the States - allowing for the purchase of a padded
bag, the packing time, the queuing at the Post Office (very lengthy here!)
and then sending as 'signed for' delivery.  Shipping costs are NOT just 
the
price of the stamp!
But it is important that the seller does not rip the punter off - it DOES
leave a bad taste in one's mouth when a milligram piece is sent costing 
$10!

Mike Farmer seems to charge minimal prices and I always appreciated that!
just my $0.02 worth FWIW
Thanks
dave
IMCA #0092
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[meteorite-list] shipping costs.

2004-10-01 Thread Dave Harris
Hi,
On some of the issues that Bernhard  raised - it does cost around $5 to $7
to send from the UK to the States - allowing for the purchase of a padded
bag, the packing time, the queuing at the Post Office (very lengthy here!)
and then sending as 'signed for' delivery.  Shipping costs are NOT just the
price of the stamp!
But it is important that the seller does not rip the punter off - it DOES
leave a bad taste in one's mouth when a milligram piece is sent costing $10!

Mike Farmer seems to charge minimal prices and I always appreciated that!

just my $0.02 worth FWIW


Thanks


dave

IMCA #0092
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Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
" Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices?  $0.99 for the item
and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more
attentively in future. ;-)"

Mikes shipping was free for me, but cost him around 85 cents!


Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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From: "Stefan Ralew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Bernhard Rems"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 11:30 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General
MeteoritInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear


> Hi Bernhard and List,
>
> for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges
> for packages from Germany to Oversea locations:
>
> Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90)
> Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46)
> Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69)
>  up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92)
>up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84)
> Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52)
>
> It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have
> sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been
> lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from
> Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45).
> And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox).
> Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit
> more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in
> future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t
> available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I
> don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages.
>
> Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices?  $0.99 for the item
> and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more
> attentively in future. ;-)
>
> Best wishes,
> Stefan
>
> Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection
> Berlin/Germany
> www.meteoriten.com
>
>
>
> Bernhard Rems wrote:
>
> >And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for
> >unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-)
> >
> >Bernhard
> >
> >
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[meteorite-list] "Thank You" to all of our customers, eBay or otherwise

2004-10-01 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear list members,
This is a good time to let every one of our past, current and future 
customers know we truly appreciate your business.

With all of this talk about shipping costs and packaging, the main point is 
sharing meteorites with others and being able to use the funds we collect 
from sales to buy more material or find it through expeditions; to make new 
discoveries, whether they are in the lab or desert.

Best regards,
Greg and Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
Team LunarRock
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Re: [meteorite-list] General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Meteoryt.net
From: "Matt Morgan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that
request Registered Mail.
Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail
package lost and that was questionable.  However I have had at least 5
unregistered packs lost.
Matt

==
For some of You guys Poland is maybe country somewhere far far avay in the
east, but from begining of my eBay career :-) not any one parcel was lost. I
alvays send items in registered airmail and only few of them was "lost" for
a few weeks to 3 months, to at last arrive to specified addresses. One time,
verry expensive meteorite "flying" to France for 4 weeks. But this is around
2 "long distance" airmail per year. I dont know what they doing with this
letters in post offices.

I charge 3$/euro for shipping in europe and 5$ worldwide. This is near my
costs, and usualy a little more than I really pay. Buy sometimes I pay more,
for example if I need send something to Australia or Japan.
I dont know how it is in US, but here in Europe if someone sendding
something valuable he must use registered mail or just more expensive
parcels or letters where You must include that "small green slip" for
customs officers.

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Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorit InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Stefan Ralew
Hi Bernhard and List,
for everyone which is interested in it, here are the official charges 
for packages from Germany to Oversea locations:

Normal letter (max. 20gm and 235 x 125 x 5mm): 1.55 euros ($1.90)
Compact letter (max. 50gm and 235 x 125 x 10mm): 2 euros ($2.46)
Maximum letter up to 50 g: 3 euros ($3.69)
up to 100gm: 4 euros ($4.92)
  up to 250gm: 8 euros ($9.84)
Additional costs for registered mail: 2.05 euros ($2.52)
It`s my experience that registered mail is a very safe solution. I have 
sent many, many packages and no package with registered mail has been 
lost till now. For example: I pay for a 50gm letter (270x200x20mm) from 
Germany to the US by the registered airmail 6.05 euros (around $ 7.45). 
And I do not charge for envelopes and packing (mostly incl. Jewelbox). 
Good packing costs place and weight and the postages are a little bit 
more expensive. Registered mail will be the first choice for me in 
future because I send most meteorites on my risk. An insurance isn`t 
available for packages from Germany to the US. With unregistered mail I 
don't have any possibility the check the way of my packages.

Mike, how you make such collector frienly prices?  $0.99 for the item 
and $0.85 free shipping?? I think I should read your Ebay Ads more 
attentively in future. ;-)

Best wishes,
Stefan
Stefan Ralew Meteorite Collection
Berlin/Germany
www.meteoriten.com

Bernhard Rems wrote:
And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for
unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-)
Bernhard


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Re: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Greg Hupe
Dear everyone associated with this post,
We advertise eBay shipping prices based in the U.S. and then go from there. 
In EVERY eBay auction notice after win, eBay includes the following message 
to the winning bidder:

Your payment instructions to buyer:
Thank you for bidding with us. Please add the shipping amount indicated if 
you are in the United States, if you are NOT in the U.S., please email me 
your shipping address so I can quote the proper shipping amount for you. If 
you have won more than one auction, email me a list of auction numbers AND 
descriptions along with your shipping address so I can quote combined 
shipping and/or insurance. Thank you.
<<

If this is not clearly our way of asking all winners to contact us regarding 
"actual" shipping costs, then I don't know what is. Also, it clearly states 
we combine shipping to save the buyer costs. Sure, sometimes the actual 
amount will be a few cents more and, most often than not, the amount is 
higher and we pick up the extra costs.

I will only ship Priority in the U.S. due to the fact that I can use the 
post office Priority boxes which provide protection against damage, much 
better than a padded envelope! I ship overseas packages typically in a box 
for same reason, and if a single item is durable, I will send in a padded 
envelope at a lesser rate than advertised.

If a buyer pays a higher price for shipping and I catch it, I will contact 
them and inform them of this and to have free or discounted shipping next 
package. Almost all of our customers are return bidders so within the first 
couple transactions everyone is in tune to our way of shipping and can 
expect to pay for protected shipping.

General question to all, would you rather have protected shipments in a box 
or run the risk of having damaged goods from a padded envelope?? I, for one, 
prefer to feel confident that the item being shipped to me will arrive in 
one piece. Sure, accidents happen or an unseen fracture in the specimen will 
show up during shipping. The postal workers are not the most careful bunch 
in the world, but with boxes, you get better insurance of safe arrival. 
Bottom line, you get what you pay for!

Enough said on this topic, I have better things to do like package material 
to be shipped to happy customers, most in boxes!

Have a great weekend to all,
Greg Hupe
meteoritelab
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- Original Message - 
From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Bernhard Rems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite 
InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year


on 10/1/04 9:09 AM, Bernhard Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.
---
Hi Burnhard & list members,
   Not sure where you live, but I charge ACTUAL COST.
(Of course, no fee for "handling" - which is, indeed, a
cut and dried rip off).
   However, "greedy ones charge $7 and up" has me
confused, as nearly all registered mail (which I use for
ALL overseas shipping, as it is the ONLY way to guarantee
delivery, other than FED EX, which is more expensive)
costs about $12 these days (it varies from $11+ to $12+
accept to Japan, where it costs $25!)
   All others (within the US) are a flat 3.85 + insurance ($2 first
$100, $1 each additional $100). Insurance is optional, but
recommended.
   Canada is the exception, where I can send Global Priority
for $7, but I still recommend registered, as even without insurance,
it is nearly 100% reliable. MOST out of US buyers want to avoid
import fees, so, want no insurance. Fine, but not at MY risk. So,
registered is THE way to go.
   (I also pack it safely enough that I can literally toss it across
the room and bounce it off the wall with no fear whatsoever of
damage to the specimen - I KNOW some nit wit is actually going
to do this in transit, so, failure to prepare for same is just plane
stupid. Of course, there is no fee for this. People who charge
"handling fees" are outrageous in my book)
   So, when you say "greedy ones charge $7 and up" this does
not make sense to me (Unless, of course, you are in the US and so
is the seller - in which case, INDEED, that would be a rip off - unless
insurance brought it to that level).
   Best wishes, Michael
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[meteorite-list] Shipping Internationally

2004-10-01 Thread MexicoDoug
"I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing 
(h)eadaches, it is not fun." ...Martin H. (2004)

Martin, List,

I am looking for a monument in my city to inscribe the above 
quote credited to its owner.  I may even have to resort to 
graphitti.  But that "fun" of Martin has been contageous not 
only for me, but for others, thanks to a superspecial shipping 
maneuver he executed to absolute perfection and on top of 
that, with the nicest greeting card enclosed.

Registered, regular mail, whatever, while you all debate 
conclusively or not the verdict, in Mexico my limited 
experience has been everything "worse than suspected", each 
list email on the subject reminds me that I have dealt with a 
couple of dealers who truly are gold standard for which I am 
very satisfied, but Martin certainly gets the Highest Diamond 
Peridot Meteorite award on a personal note.

Receiving those meteorites was so much fun, perhaps this email 
will help ease my sense of gratuitude, which has also been 
knawing at me ever since, each time I share those specimens 
with someone who shares the wonder we all have here.

And even a copy of the original label?...:-)

Saludos, Doug


[EMAIL PROTECTED] escribe: 

Hi List,

I usually charge $3 for shipping on order under $200. That is $1 for a padded 
envelope, ~$1.00-$1.50 postage, and $0.45 for delivery conformation. Any money made on 
shipping is likely 50 cents or less, but often I absorb a greater cost when I include 
the specimen in a plastic case if it is fragile, or if it is heavy but inexpensive.

I like to retain control over shipping choices  on sales over $200 based upon where 
the piece is going, how it needs to be packed, and to whom it is being sent (since 
some collectors are higher maintenance than others). Therefore, I pay shipping on 
those orders so I can do it however I see fit.

I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing eadaches, it is not fun.

Martin


On Oct 1, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:

> Hi List,
>
> Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller
> items.  Do not forget that multiple orders are combined.  On the 
> average
> seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an 
> item,
> and all show up within 3 days.  I would say this is not a bad deal.  
> As far
> as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in 
> have
> to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost.  
> Shipping
> is not a good way to pad auctions.
>
> Hope this clears up a few things,
>
> Adam
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "fcressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "mark ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
> HasIncreased100%InLast Year
>
>
>> Hi Mark and all,
>>
>> Regarding the small pieces:
>>
>> I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 
>> cents,
> but
>> charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get 
>> one
> bid
>> (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is 
>> less
>> than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
>> "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Frank
>>
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: mark ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: Meteorite List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM
>> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has
>> Increased100%InLast Year
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot 
>> more
>> material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
>> stuff.
>>
>> Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
>> specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!
>>
>>
>> Mark
>>
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Re: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Michael L Blood
on 10/1/04 9:09 AM, Bernhard Rems at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
> the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
> Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.
---
Hi Burnhard & list members,
Not sure where you live, but I charge ACTUAL COST.
(Of course, no fee for "handling" - which is, indeed, a
cut and dried rip off).
However, "greedy ones charge $7 and up" has me
confused, as nearly all registered mail (which I use for
ALL overseas shipping, as it is the ONLY way to guarantee
delivery, other than FED EX, which is more expensive)
costs about $12 these days (it varies from $11+ to $12+
accept to Japan, where it costs $25!)
All others (within the US) are a flat 3.85 + insurance ($2 first
$100, $1 each additional $100). Insurance is optional, but
recommended. 
Canada is the exception, where I can send Global Priority
for $7, but I still recommend registered, as even without insurance,
it is nearly 100% reliable. MOST out of US buyers want to avoid
import fees, so, want no insurance. Fine, but not at MY risk. So,
registered is THE way to go.
(I also pack it safely enough that I can literally toss it across
the room and bounce it off the wall with no fear whatsoever of
damage to the specimen - I KNOW some nit wit is actually going
to do this in transit, so, failure to prepare for same is just plane
stupid. Of course, there is no fee for this. People who charge
"handling fees" are outrageous in my book)
So, when you say "greedy ones charge $7 and up" this does
not make sense to me (Unless, of course, you are in the US and so
is the seller - in which case, INDEED, that would be a rip off - unless
insurance brought it to that level).
Best wishes, Michael 

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[meteorite-list] NPA 11-12-1922 Odessa Meteorite Found Near "Blowout"

2004-10-01 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Mexia Evening News
City: Mexia, Texas
Date: November 12, 1922
Page: 7
SLICE OF A METEORITE FOUND NEAR, ODESSA ADDED TO ECONOMIC GEOLOGY COLLECTION 
AT UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS

AUSTIN, Nov. 14 - Among the recent additions in the collections of the 
Bureau of Economics Geology in the University of Texas is a polished slice 
of a meteorite found near Odessa and submitted by E. J. Wall, manager of the 
Odessa Commercial Club.
The meteorite is new being described by Dr. George P. Merrill of the 
National Museum of Washington, D.C., who is one of the highest authorities 
on meteorites in America.  In a description written to appear in the 
American Journal of Science, Dr. Merrill says that this fragment of an iron 
meteorite was brought to his attention by Dr. A.B. Bibbons, of Baltimore, 
who stated that it was found by a ranchman at the west side of a blowout 
about nine miles southwest of Odessa.  He says that it was placed in his 
hands as a possible sample of iron ore.
The fragment weighed 3120 grams and was said to be cut from a larger 
mass, the size of which was not given.  Exteriorly, the sample was much 
weathered and oxidized, showing that it was no very recent fall.  A slice of 
the iron freed from all crust and oxidization products was analyzed, and the 
analysis showed that the meteorite contained a little nickel, and some 
cobalt.  In addition to this, the sample contained small quantities of 
copper, chromium, carbon, phospherous and sulphur.
The specimen will be listed in the collections of the Bureau of 
Economic Geology.  Up to this time approximately twenty meteorites have been 
found in the state of Texas.  The largest of these was acquired by the Field 
Museum in Chicago.  The Wichita County meteorite is the property of the 
University of Texas.

(end)
PDF copies available on all articles postcard today upon e-mail request.
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com
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[meteorite-list] NPA 03-25-1880: Estherville Meteorite Article

2004-10-01 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Reno Evening Gazette
City: Reno, Nevada
Date: Thursday, March 25, 1880
Page: 1
The Iowa Meteorite
Prof. Thompson of the Minnesota State University has examined and 
reported on the great Iowa meteorite which fell last May.  The day was 
cloudless, he says, when the meteorite passed through the air like a ball of 
fire, and a rumbling, crashing noise.  It was seen along its coarse for 
several hundred miles, terrifying the people greatly, and finally exploding, 
with two tremendous reports, near Esterville.  Two large pieces fell into 
hard soil, and many fragments were scattered.  The entire weight was about 
800 pounds, the largest mass weighing 470 pounds.  The material is found to 
be chiefly iron.

(end)
Mark note:  This article refers to the Estherville meteorite, which town is 
misspelled in the article.

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[meteorite-list] NPA 03-18-1880 Estherville Meteorite Article

2004-10-01 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Indiana Democrat
City: Indiana, Pennsylvania
Date: March 18, 1880
Page: 4
Fall of a Meteor
At the last meeting of the astronomical department of the State 
historical society, held in St. Paul, an exceedingly interesting and 
valuable paper on meteorites was read by Prof. E. J. Thompson, of the State 
University.  The following extract from this paper relating as to a 
meteorite that fell across the southern line of Minnesota, near the town of 
Jackson, will be found of interest:
May 10, 1879, was a bright, clear, cloudless day.  At five o'clock in 
the afternoon, in full sunshine, this meteorite passed through the air, 
exploded and fell in the town of Erterville, Emmet county, Iowa, about ten 
or twelve miles below the southern boundary of Jackson county, Minn.  The 
path it followed marked a course from northwest to southeast, and was seen 
for a distance of several hundred miles.  Mr. W. L. Wilkins, of Austin, told 
me that as he was traveling in the northwest part of Mower county, May 10, 
about 5 P.M., he heard an unusual crackling and hissing noise about him, and 
upon looking up saw to the west of him the meteor passing.  This was more 
than 100 miles from where it fell.  Mr. Pickard who resides in the northwest 
part of Blue Earth county, saw it pass as it seemed far to the northwest of 
him; and described it as a most startling and wonderful phenomenon - a huge 
ball of fire, followed closely by a cloud of fire.  Reports from localities 
still further northwest, some from Dakota, confirms the opinion that its 
direction was as above stated.  Its appearance in the heavens was that of a 
huge globe of fire attended by a fiery cloud.  The inhabitants residing 
within the area of a circle whose diameter is six miles, for a few minutes 
were greatly alarmed; not more at the simple flying ball of fire which 
seemed so near to them, than at the terrific explosions immediately above 
them; those who did not see it thought an earthquake had occurred and were 
in great terror.  All agree with its explosion and force.  The noise 
accompanying its flight is described as rumbling, cracking, crashing, 
similar to that produced by a train of cars crossing a long bridge; then 
came a very loud report, immediately followed by two distinct reports in 
quick succession though not so explosion or loud as the first.  It struck 
the ground in separate masses, together with smaller fragments scattered 
over an area of three or four miles.  There were two large pieces which fell 
about two miles apart, in a direct northwest line, both at an angle of 
eighty degrees.  The impression of those who saw the meteor in the air just 
at the time of explosion was that still another large mass fell no far 
distant.  This has been confirmed by the recent finding of a piece weighing 
150 pounds by a trapper named Robert Pietz.
The largest mass, weighing 470 pounds, now at Keokuk, Iowa, penetrated 
a hard blue clay soil, covered with water, to the depth of twelve feet.  The 
mass weighing 170 pounds, now at the State University, fell on a dry grassy 
knoll, and was buried to the depth of five and a half feet below the 
surface.  A few rods from the largest mass would found a fragment weighing 
thirty pounds, and a schoolboy picked up a specimen weighing three pounds a 
little distance away from the largest.  Three resembled the great body of 
the meteorite in all respects. - St. Paul (Minn.) Pioneer.

(end)
Mark Note: Newspaper article on the Estherville meteorite fall.  Misspelled 
in article Erterville.

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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-11-1875: Meteorite? Falls in Illinois

2004-10-01 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Paper: Atlanta Constitution
City: Atlanta, Georgia
Date: Sunday Morning, July 11, 1875
Page: 2
A Chip from a Star
(Illinois State Register)
A few days ago, as a lady, who resides in the south part of the city, 
was standing at the gate in front of her residence, she was startled by a 
rustling sound in one of the shade trees, and instantly afterwards heard 
some heavy object drop with a loud thump on the plank walk.  On picking up 
the "thing," it was found to be about two inches long and three-quarter of 
an inch thick, and appearance composed of exceedingly dense iron, with 
yellow blotches that resemble sulphur, and covered with a black substance 
resembling coal tar.
When picked up it was found to be uncomfortably warm for the hand, and 
all the circumstances combined lead irresistibly to the conclusion that this 
little body is a fragment of a larger one which was a meteorite or aerolite. 
 The sides of the fragment have the appearance of being split off from 
another body, and present longitudinal stria in the direction of the 
fracture.  The ends seem to have been squarely broken off, somewhat like the 
fracture made by the breaking of a mineral known as galena.  This little 
piece fell at about 8 o'clock in the afternoon when the sun was shining in a 
clear sky, and no doubt the greater body burst in the extreme upper regions 
of the atmosphere in the full blaze of sunlight, and so escaped observation.
If this had happened during the darkness and stillness of night, the 
light and noise would no doubt have attracted attention.  A moment's 
inspection of this fragment is sufficient to show that it closely resembles, 
in every respect, the aerolites that are known to have fallen in many parts 
of the world, and that are treasured as great curiosities in many museums; 
the more so as the substance of which it is composed resembled in its 
chemical combinations no mineral of terrestrial origin.  Wherever these 
bodies or fragments are found they may be instantly recognized by this 
peculiarity; their substance being known as meteoric iron. A body of this 
kind was found in South American that is estimated to weigh 50,000 pounds; 
another in the Yale College cabinet, which was found in Red river country, 
weighs 1,685 pounds.

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Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Martinh
Hi List,
I usually charge $3 for shipping on order under $200. That is $1 for a 
padded envelope, ~$1.00-$1.50 postage, and $0.45 for delivery 
conformation. Any money made on shipping is likely 50 cents or less, 
but often I absorb a greater cost when I include the specimen in a 
plastic case if it is fragile, or if it is heavy but inexpensive.

I like to retain control over shipping choices  on sales over $200 
based upon where the piece is going, how it needs to be packed, and to 
whom it is being sent (since some collectors are higher maintenance 
than others). Therefore, I pay shipping on those orders so I can do it 
however I see fit.

I do all this strictly for fun. If there are mailing headaches, it is 
not fun.

Martin

On Oct 1, 2004, at 11:01 AM, Adam Hupe wrote:
Hi List,
Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller
items.  Do not forget that multiple orders are combined.  On the 
average
seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an 
item,
and all show up within 3 days.  I would say this is not a bad deal.  
As far
as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in 
have
to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost.  
Shipping
is not a good way to pad auctions.

Hope this clears up a few things,
Adam
- Original Message -
From: "fcressy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "mark ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,
Regarding the small pieces:
I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 
cents,
but
charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get 
one
bid
(excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is 
less
than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
"free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank
- Original Message -
From: mark ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Meteorite List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has
Increased100%InLast Year

Hi,
'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot 
more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!
Mark

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[meteorite-list] AW: General MeteoriteInterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Norbert Classen
Hi Bernhard, Matt, and All,

Registered mail packages don't get lost - you'll have to start an
official inquiry, and you'll find out where the package is. That's
at least my experience.

BTW, I only send registered (national, and international) for two
reasons: If I don't send my specimens registered I have no proof
whatsoever that I've sent anything to my customer. I also have no
proof that my customer ever received the item, and so he can claim
that I either never shipped the item, or that he never received it.
I made this experience, twice, and ever since then I won't send
anything unregistered.

Best,
Norbert

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>
> This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that
> request Registered Mail.
> Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail
> package lost and that was questionable.  However I have had at least 5
> unregistered packs lost.
> Matt
>
> -Original Message-
>
>
> Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide.
> The Hupes ship for app. $5.
>
> Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT
> arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a
> single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered
> ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on
> the way :-).
>
> About customs: mark your shipment as "mineral samples for studies" with
> a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs.
>
> See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us
> European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our
> money.
>
> But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right
> to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means
> hassles means unattractive.
>
> Bernhard
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest HasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi List,

Priority mail cost $3.85 and that is exactly what we charge on smaller
items.  Do not forget that multiple orders are combined.  On the average
seven pieces are shipped in one package making it about 50 cents an item,
and all show up within 3 days.  I would say this is not a bad deal.  As far
as international shipping goes the boxes the meteorites are shipped in have
to be paid for unlike Priority Mail making it about the same cost.  Shipping
is not a good way to pad auctions.

Hope this clears up a few things,

Adam


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> Hi Mark and all,
>
> Regarding the small pieces:
>
> I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but
> charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one
bid
> (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less
> than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
> "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)
>
> Cheers,
> Frank
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: mark ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Meteorite List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM
> Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has
> Increased100%InLast Year
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> 'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
> material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
> stuff.
>
> Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
> specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!
>
>
> Mark
>
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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - September 30, 2004

2004-10-01 Thread Ron Baalke

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Waking up from a Winter's Nap - sol 238-241,
September 30, 2004

After a well-deserved rest through solar conjunction, Opportunity is
awake again and back to work. The conjunction was the period in
mid-September when Mars was nearly behind the Sun from Earth's
perspective, causing communications to be unreliable.

Sol details:

Sol 238
Opportunity completed instrument arm operations on a soil target called
"Auk" by finishing a multi-sol Mössbauer spectrometer integration and
collecting microscopic images of undisturbed soil. It then performing
remote sensing observations on the next target, a rock called
"Ellesmere." Once the morning activities were complete, Opportunity took
a 90-minute nap then stowed the arm and drove backwards 0.34 meters (1.1
feet). The rover used an afternoon communications session on sol 238 and
an early morning session on sol 239.

Sols 239 and 240
The planning session for sols 239 and 240 was extremely challenging for
the uplink team. As the rover project transitions to five-day-a-week
planning, the Opportunity team planned two sols of activities to be
uplinked on sol 239. Adding to the complexity, the two sols' activities
included difficult instrument arm placement activities. Rover planners
rose to the occasion. The sol started with 45 minutes of microscopic
imaging, then placement of the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on a
target area of Ellesmere called "No Coating." Opportunity performed a
couple hours of remote sensing, used an afternoon communications session
and then went into overnight deep sleep. On sol 240, Opportunity began
taking a reading with the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer at 7:00
local solar time, then went back to sleep. After waking, it did an hour
of remote sensing observations, completed the alpha particle X-ray
spectrometer integration and collected more microscopic imager pictures.
The rover then placed the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer on its next
target, "Barbeau." Another hour of remote sensing completed the sol.

Sol 241
Opportunity finished its alpha particle X-ray spectrometer integration
on Barbeau, collected more microscopic images, switched tools to the
Mössbauer spectrometer and started that integration. The rover performed
a mini deep sleep overnight. Sol 241 ended on Sept. 27.

Total odometry after sol 241 is 1,573.83 meters (0.98 miles - almost to
the 1-mile mark).


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RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Matt Morgan
This is funny since the Europeans are the only customers I have that
request Registered Mail.
Guess it depends on your perspective. I have had one registered mail
package lost and that was questionable.  However I have had at least 5
unregistered packs lost.
Matt

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Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide.
The Hupes ship for app. $5.

Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT
arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a
single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered
ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on
the way :-).

About customs: mark your shipment as "mineral samples for studies" with
a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs.

See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us
European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our
money.

But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right
to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means
hassles means unattractive.

Bernhard


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Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14
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InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

But it also depends on which form of shipping you use.  I ALWAYS use
registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the
only way I can protect myself.  If you folks don't like to pay the
customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to
replace the piece if it goes missing?  The logic is absurd. I have never
paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. 

Matt Morgan

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:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get
one bid (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded
envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even
if you have a "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a
"fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Increased100%InLast Year



Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

2004-10-01 Thread Bernhard Rems
And what I forgot to say: there are OF COURSE sellers who charge $7 for
unregistered mail. Those were the ones I am talking about :-)

Bernhard

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InterestHasIncreased100%InLastYear

Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide.
The Hupes ship for app. $5.

Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT
arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a
single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered
ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on
the way :-).

About customs: mark your shipment as "mineral samples for studies" with
a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs.

See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us
European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our
money.

But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right
to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means
hassles means unattractive.

Bernhard


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Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14
An: 'Bernhard Rems'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite
InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

But it also depends on which form of shipping you use.  I ALWAYS use
registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the
only way I can protect myself.  If you folks don't like to pay the
customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to
replace the piece if it goes missing?  The logic is absurd. I have never
paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. 

Matt Morgan

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Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite
InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year


:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get
one bid (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded
envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even
if you have a "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a
"fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 2:51 AM
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Increased100%InLast Year



Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Tom AKA James Knudson
"It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up."

That's one of many things you have to say good about Mike Farmer, $1 to any
where in the world. For a short while, he had free shipping! I won a
meteorite from him for 99 cents and free shipping, it cost him 85 cents to
ship it. I still feel guilty about that and if I ever get to meet him, I am
giving him a dollar just to get rid of the guilt! : )

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but
charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one
bid
(excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is
less
than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
"free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Bernhard Rems
Mike Farmer, I believe, ships for $1 worldwide.
The Hupes ship for app. $5.

Registered mail, at least that's my experience, is more likely to NOT
arrive. I have received about 300 meteorites from the US so far, a
single unregistered mail has been lost, and two of app. 10 registered
ones haven't arrived. They seem to be more interesting for the folks on
the way :-).

About customs: mark your shipment as "mineral samples for studies" with
a value between $0 and $10 - and noone will have to pay customs.

See, due to the low dollar, the US market is pretty interesting for us
European customers. Tose who make it easy for us to buy will get our
money.

But of course, if you feel safer with registered mail, that's your right
to choose this option. But for us, registered means customs means
hassles means unattractive.

Bernhard


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Von: Matt Morgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 01. Oktober 2004 18:14
An: 'Bernhard Rems'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

But it also depends on which form of shipping you use.  I ALWAYS use
registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the
only way I can protect myself.  If you folks don't like to pay the
customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to
replace the piece if it goes missing?  The logic is absurd. I have never
paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. 

Matt Morgan

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InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year


:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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An: mark ford; Meteorite List
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get
one bid (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded
envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even
if you have a "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a
"fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Increased100%InLast Year



Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread Matt Morgan
But it also depends on which form of shipping you use.  I ALWAYS use
registered mail overseas which is AT LEAST 7.00 from Colorado. It is the
only way I can protect myself.  If you folks don't like to pay the
customs and extra fees for more secure shipping then why do I have to
replace the piece if it goes missing?  The logic is absurd. I have never
paid 1.00 to ship and item out of the country. 

Matt Morgan

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InterestHasIncreased100%InLast Year


:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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An: mark ford; Meteorite List
Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest
HasIncreased100%InLast Year

Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get
one bid (excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded
envelop is less than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even
if you have a "free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a
"fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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2004-10-01 Thread Bernhard Rems
:-)

Problem is that ebay wants a share of what you earn. And not too many
people are willing to pay $ 4.00 for national shipping.

It's funny to see how much people charge for international shipping, by
the way. Some do it for $1 (well, one does *g*), most are under $5.
Some, the greedy ones, charge $7 and up.

It makes good friends when you pay $7 for s&h and the small envelope
arrives with a $0.95 stamp.

I ALWAYS include s&h in my limits for a bid. Those sellers that do not
disclose their international s&h in the auction and rip me off with s&h
later, never see me in their auctions again.

Bernhard

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Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents,
but
charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one
bid
(excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is
less
than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
"free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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Re: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread fcressy
Hi Mark and all,

Regarding the small pieces:

I guess if you keep the piece small and start it on ebay at at 99 cents, but
charge four dollars for shipping, you can make money even if you get one bid
(excluding  overseas shipping). Postage in a small padded envelop is less
than a dollar which you've made up on a single bid. Even if you have a
"free" give-away, you're making money. So who need a "fall" sale ;-)

Cheers,
Frank


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Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more
material around, these days, just look at the number of people selling
stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger
specimens around, everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark



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Re-2: [meteorite-list] clarafication on my meteorite sale and other matters

2004-10-01 Thread bernd . pauli
> Steve A. of Chicago wrote:

> Also one more item,I do not like public insults on the list.
> If you want to tell me something, please do it in private.

And, what about publicly calling another list member
an "ass wipe" on your website a few months ago ???

.. just curious !!!

Martin responded:

> I look forward to the "New Steve" who keeps his word

So be it !!!

Best regards,

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] clarafication on my meteorite sale and other matters

2004-10-01 Thread martinh
Steve A. of Chicago wrote:

> I'll try to pay more attention to this matter in the future.
> Also on a side note,I remedied the situation with
> bernhard rems.
> Also one more item,I do not like public insults on the list.
> If you want to tell me something, please do it in private.
> I would never stoop to anything like that.
> Again please forgive my computer stupidisy.


Hi Steve,

I am glad to hear it. I hope this means that you plan on making right with me over the 
specimens I had on hold for you but you chose not to pay for, yet did not tell me more 
than three three weeks and only after repeated emails to you.

I look forward to the "New Steve" who keeps his word.

Cheers,

Martin

ps: I did reply to you in private, but have yet to hear from you.
















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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The - October 1, 2004

2004-10-01 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
ROCKS FROM SPACE PICTURE OF THE  DAY:
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Oct_1.html  

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RE: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100%InLast Year

2004-10-01 Thread mark ford

Hi,

'Supply and demand', that's what determines prices, there is a lot more material 
around, these days, just look at the number of people selling stuff.

Having said that I have noticed that there are less and less larger specimens around, 
everything seems to get cut these days!


Mark


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Sent: 30 September 2004 21:32
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Subject: AW: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100%InLast Year

I think these low prices are partly because people don't know how to
sell.

Look at the Hupes - they still get good prices for their material.

Most people on the net or ebay sell meteorites like, well, rocks.
Believe in their value and their beauty, communicate their value and
beauty, and you will get better prices. Amen.

Bernhard

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Betreff: [meteorite-list] General Meteorite Interest Has Increased 100%
InLast Year

Hello List,

"The Meteorite Market is Crashing!", "The Meteorite Market Has Crashed
the 
Last Two Years!", "Things Are Not Selling", "The Market is Ruin".it 
seems a common theme or underlined theme in the meteorite community.  I
have 
never seen this to be true.  In fact, it appears to me that sales and 
interest has done nothing but increase.and at a really amazing pace.

As we continue to increase the inflow of meteorites, it makes it harder
and 
harder to get a large piece of everything, but I do not think that means

things are not selling or the market has crashed. And to show this I
present 
some of my website stats.  Which show a general interest in meteorites
is up 
almost 50%.  While this does not mean sales are up 50%, the two factors
are 
very closely related.

The following is a list of different visitors, per a month, to my
website, 
www.meteoritearticles.com.  This is not page hits or visits a month,
which 
are both larger numbers.  Such information is usually kept private but I

think some of you will find it of interest.

Date - Different Visitors

Sept 2004 - 4,484 (not over yetbut almost)
Aug, 2004 - 4,239
Jul. 2004 - 3,244
May 2004 - 2,754
Apr 2004 - 3,069
Mar 2004 - 3,605
Feb 2004 - 3,352
Jan 2004 - 2,942
Dec 2003 - 2,480
Nov 2003 - 2,449
Oct 2003 - 2,393


Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com


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