Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

collect Picasso paintings or Fabergè Eggs - minimu 5 milions of $ for one 
egg.

Matteo

From: Bernhard Rems <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" 
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 23:21:03 +0100

Girlfriends (for a married man).
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Liebe Grüße/best regards
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Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
> Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
> today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
> be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
> obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
> rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
> nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
> mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
> hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
> is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
> know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
>
>
> steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
>
> =
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - December 10, 2004

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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7

[branchw]

Hello Everyone,

Many thanks to Art, who pointed me in the right direction for my bumper
sticker:

http://www.cafepress.com/meteorites.15152419

Now, years ago I saw a shirt that read, "Free the Bound Periodicals"

Anyone seen that one?

-Walter
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7


> Hi David,
>
> Well, shoot, man.  Just take an ordinary H6 or L6 and place it in the oven
> on the highest setting for a few hours and you will have an H7 or L7 :-)
>
> Just ran that by my wife.  She was not amused.
>
> I love science humor.  I am still looking for that bumper sticker that
> reads, "186,000 miles per second:  It's not just a good idea, it's the
law"
>
> ack, ack, ack.
>
> Congratulations on your acquisition, David.
>
> Just wait until that CM2/H/L3.2-6 with mesosiderite portions falls!
>
> -Walter
> -
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> From: "David Weir" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Meteorite-list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:16 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7
>
>
> > Hello list,
> >
> > I just purchased the final meteorite type to "complete" my systematic
> > collection (now I have thought that many times before :) Though it is
> > only a provisional H chondrite pending O-isotope data to insure the
> > proper parent body, I have some confidence that this one will finally
> > prove to be. Of course I still hope for further sampling from distinct
> > parent bodies, but this ordinary H7 has been a long time coming - one
> > reason for this is presented on my NWA 2635 webpage. I look forward to
> > receiving the piece from Mike next week. Anyone have an H/L7?
> >
> > David
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7

[branchw]

Hi David,

Well, shoot, man.  Just take an ordinary H6 or L6 and place it in the oven
on the highest setting for a few hours and you will have an H7 or L7 :-)

Just ran that by my wife.  She was not amused.

I love science humor.  I am still looking for that bumper sticker that
reads, "186,000 miles per second:  It's not just a good idea, it's the law"

ack, ack, ack.

Congratulations on your acquisition, David.

Just wait until that CM2/H/L3.2-6 with mesosiderite portions falls!

-Walter
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 9:16 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7


> Hello list,
>
> I just purchased the final meteorite type to "complete" my systematic
> collection (now I have thought that many times before :) Though it is
> only a provisional H chondrite pending O-isotope data to insure the
> proper parent body, I have some confidence that this one will finally
> prove to be. Of course I still hope for further sampling from distinct
> parent bodies, but this ordinary H7 has been a long time coming - one
> reason for this is presented on my NWA 2635 webpage. I look forward to
> receiving the piece from Mike next week. Anyone have an H/L7?
>
> David
> meteoritestudies.com
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[meteorite-list] NWA 2635 H7

[David Weir]

Hello list,

I just purchased the final meteorite type to "complete" my systematic
collection (now I have thought that many times before :) Though it is
only a provisional H chondrite pending O-isotope data to insure the
proper parent body, I have some confidence that this one will finally
prove to be. Of course I still hope for further sampling from distinct
parent bodies, but this ordinary H7 has been a long time coming - one
reason for this is presented on my NWA 2635 webpage. I look forward to
receiving the piece from Mike next week. Anyone have an H/L7?

David
meteoritestudies.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] 2nd comment on TUCSON AUCTION - On line catalog started (AD)

[Michael L Blood]

Hi all,
I have received comments off list about so many entries from one
source given that I have always promoted this as  "The People's Auction."
This is where I am at with it:
I will be DELIGHTED to take quality entries form anyone and
everyone. To date, this is what I have received. They are EXCELLENT
and have either no minimum or very low minimums for what they
are. I am delighted with them - and would LOVE to have 75 more entries
from other parties.
Y'all send me as much as you want of material of this quality.
To date, I have ONE other entry from ONE other person.
If people want this to remain true in spirit to "The People's
Auction" then the people will have to send things in for listing. It IS
The People's Auction - just the people are sitting on their hands
Last year I had OVER HALF the "people" (non-dealers) who wanted
to put stuff in the auction show up AFTER 7:15 PM - with less than
fifteen minutes to go before bid calling. Of course, I turned all but
the very best away.
I will be more than happy to place good photos on line providing
advanced advertising, etc. However, I will have a catalog of good material
and if that comes from one, two or three dealers or 55 collectors, is up
to the people who do or do not submit items.
7:15 on the night of the auction probably won't get in.  they
certainly won't be in the on line catalog.
Bring 'm on!  Michael


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> Greetings all,
>   For those interested in seeing the first 35 items already submitted
> for the Tucson Auction (Sat, Feb.5th) , go to:
> 
> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionTucson05.html
> 
> and hit the link for the On Line Catalog.
>   The first 35 photos are up and an additional 30 items are listed
> (Their photos will be up shortly).
>   People interested in listing items need to submit forthwith. Items
> with no minimum will be given preference, as will items of exceptional
> quality and a low opening minimum. Items not meeting these criteria
> are subject to rejection. However, the sooner the submission, the greater
> the likelihood of acceptance.
>   As you can see, there are numerous excellent specimens with no minimum
> at all. This should make for an exciting event. I will be posting photos to
> the site as quickly as possible, so the site should have tons of photos in
> the immediate future.
>   Note: you can click on the small image to see a much larger image of
> each item. 
>   Please contact me off list for absentee bids or to list items for
> sale. 
>   Best wishes, Michael
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[JKGwilliam]

I'd say the most expensive hobby would have to be one of the following:
Rare Paintings
Faberge Eggs
Rare Coins
Best,
JKG
At 03:18 PM 12/9/2004, Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
=
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Illinois Meteorites
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[Martin Altmann]

Sleep - it costs you a third of your life.

Good night!
Martin

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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 11:18 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??


> Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
> about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
> it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
> not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
> horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
> haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
> put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
> hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
> your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
>
>
> steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
>
> =
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

[Mike Groetz]

Gosh- I think everyone on the list is hitting the
Christmas cheer a little early! Thats good! Everyone
seems to be happy and getting along for a change. It
seems really good for a change.

Have a good night.
Mike


--- Tom AKA James Knudson
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> Dear Dave,
> "I would be very cautious at calling any one an
> idiot."
> 
> I was only calling myself an idiot, so it is okay! :
> )
> 
> 
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA 6168
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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> From: "David Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tom AKA James Knudson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> they put on ebay next!
> 
> 
> > Dear Tom;
> > I would be very cautious at calling any one an
> idiot.
> >
> > df
> >
> > Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
> >
> > >That was not it, here it is!
> >
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2293191849
> &
> > >rd=1
> > >
> > >Thanks, Tom
> > >peregrineflier <><
> > >IMCA 6168
> >
>
>http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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> > >To: "Tom AKA James Knudson"
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> > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will
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> > >
> > >
> > >>Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having
> a link
> > >>in it.
> > >>
> > >>HA!  ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>--- Tom AKA James Knudson
> > >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > >>>Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look
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> > >>>what some idiot is trying
> > >>>to sell   on ebay. An etching experiment gone
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[meteorite-list] Meteorite Collecting Expensive? Not!

[branchw]

Hello Everyone,

Just wanted to share with everyone some recent acquisitions.  I love these
specimens, not just because they are fine examples of meteorites, but also
because they were relatively inexpensive.

First up, here is one of my favorite meteorites, a 56 gram
chunk (fragment) of Allende.  It show wonderful CAIs, nice bulging
chondrules and blebs of triolite.  Unfortunately, I can't get very good
closeups with my present digital camera so you will have to take my word for
it - this is a stunning piece.   I got it from Steve Arnold (Arkansas) for
$2.88/gram. Though no documentation was included, Steve indicated that this
piece was from the Elbert King collection.  Take at look:
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/all1.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/all2.jpg

Next, we have one of the most sculpted specimens of Campo del Cielo I have
ever seen.  It is VERY solid and I am sure will not simply rust away.  It
displays exceptionally well, looking sort of like a horse's saddle or a
futuristic spaceship.  The pictures really do not do it justice.  Even my
most jaded relatives were impressed when I showed to them at Thanksgiving a
couple of weeks ago.  Got this one from John Birdsell for .07/gram and it
weighs 1348 grams:
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/camp1.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/camp2.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/camp3.jpg

Finally, look at this 3380 gram monster NWA 869 I got from Dean Bessey.
.10/gram and worth much more.  I love the way it displays. It has nice
regmaglypts and it has a natural "overhang" which is where I have placed the
Allende (for now, anyway).  I am having fun cleaning the caliche from the
surface.  It even came with real NWA sand trapped in some tight places,
 - aa
(cleaning that as well)!  Take a look:
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/nwa8691.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/nwa8692.jpg
http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/nwa8693.jpg

Many thanks to Steve, John and Dean for such great specimens.

Great specimens obtained for a song.  Who says meteorite collecting is
expensive.

Life is good, eh!

(BTW, dental picks make good cleaning instruments.  I have a few extra.  If
you need one, let me know and I will send one to you for free.)

-Walter


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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

[Tom AKA James Knudson]

Dear Dave,
"I would be very cautious at calling any one an idiot."

I was only calling myself an idiot, so it is okay! : )


Thanks, Tom
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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!


> Dear Tom;
> I would be very cautious at calling any one an idiot.
>
> df
>
> Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
>
> >That was not it, here it is!
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2293191849
&
> >rd=1
> >
> >Thanks, Tom
> >peregrineflier <><
> >IMCA 6168
> >http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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> >To: "Tom AKA James Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
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> >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:37 PM
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!
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> >>Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having a link
> >>in it.
> >>
> >>HA!  ;-)
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>
> >>--- Tom AKA James Knudson
> >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look at
> >>>what some idiot is trying
> >>>to sell   on ebay. An etching experiment gone wrong!
> >>>: )
> >>>
> >>>Thanks, Tom
> >>>peregrineflier <><
> >>>IMCA 6168
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

[David Freeman]

Dear Tom;
I would be very cautious at calling any one an idiot.
df
Tom AKA James Knudson wrote:
That was not it, here it is!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2293191849&;
rd=1
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having a link
in it.
HA!  ;-)
Mike
--- Tom AKA James Knudson
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Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look at
what some idiot is trying
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

[joseph_town]

That's amazing! And here I am grilling and analyzing cheese sandwiches all week.

Bill


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> That was not it, here it is!
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2293191849&;
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

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That was not it, here it is!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=2293191849&;
rd=1

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> Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having a link
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> HA!  ;-)
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> > Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look at
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

[Tom AKA James Knudson]

Try that again!
"Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look at what some idiot is trying
to sell   on ebay. An etching experiment gone wrong! : )"

http://search.ebay.com/meteorite_W0QQfromZR40QQsojsZ1QQsosortorderZ2QQsosort
propertyZ2

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> Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having a link
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> HA!  ;-)
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> Mike
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> > Hello list, Just in time for Christmas!  Look at
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Re: [meteorite-list] What meteorite will they put on ebay next!

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Yep! Just about as bad as your email not having a link
in it. 

HA!  ;-)

Mike


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[meteorite-list] New H7, the first in Private hands

[Michael Farmer]

Hello everyone, I am announcing a very rare meteorite. It is NWA 2635. A new 
H7 chondrite. There are now only 5 H7's known, the other four are from 
Antarctica.
This is a must for any type collector. Extremely rare, very nice meteorite.
I have loaded it on my website, at a price that should make it fly out the 
door.
One other dealer thought they had an H7 and listed it for sale for $200 
gram, mine is $50 gram, which is a steal for something not represented in 
private collections before!
I am awaiting more classifications, but they wont be done until after the 
holidays, so just in time for the Tucson show.
http://www.meteoriteguy.com/information.htm
Go to my website and see this rare meteorite, and get some under your 
Christmas tree or in your stocking.
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[joseph_town]

If Mickey Rooney is a list member, please reply!

Bill


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From: "tett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> oh yeah!
> 
> tett
> Owen Sound, Ontario
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> - Original Message - 
> From: "Bernhard Rems" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> Girlfriends (for a married man).
> -- 
> Liebe Grüße/best regards
> Bernhard Rems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> 
> Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
> > Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
> > today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
> > be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
> > obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
> > rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
> > nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
> > mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
> > hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
> > is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
> > know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
> >
> >
> > steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

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Have you looked at what people will pay to play golf?
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??


Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
   steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

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oh yeah!
tett
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Girlfriends (for a married man).
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Liebe Grüße/best regards
Bernhard Rems - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
=
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Re: [meteorite-list] French meteorite book/German books

[meteoriteplaya]

Hi Bernd

>But Martin is right with regard to Rolf W.Buehler's: Meteorite - Urmaterie
aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988. It is the only comprehensive book on
meteorites in German that can compare with O.R. Norton's books.<

As for out of print books you are correct Rolf's book is excellent. I just 
wished the pictures were in color. I'm sure due to the cost of color though it 
would be a very expensive book. It is quite a long (Wide) book and would not 
fit on my existing book shelf so I had to by a new deeper bookcase for it. Made 
the book more expensive than I planned on.

>F. Heide, Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 3rd edn., 1988, pp. 188.*
* updated by F. Wlotzka<

 Is this one still in print?

>and, of course, Dieter's recent booklet on the Neuschwanstein meteorite:<

I also have this one "Thanks Dieter" and I would recommend it to any even if 
you can't read German.

Mike


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> > Carion, Alain translated by Bernd Pauli 1996 Meteorite. Published by the 
> > author, Paris, France. German language 1st edition. Soft cover, 40 pp.
> 
> The English translation was done by our own Anne Black !
> 
> But Martin is right with regard to Rolf W.Buehler's: Meteorite - Urmaterie
> aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988. It is the only comprehensive book on
> meteorites in German that can compare with O.R. Norton's books.
> 
> > Heinlein, Dieter 2003 Gotterboten Feuer vom Himmel. by Volkssternwarte 
> > Laupheim e. V Softcover, 25 pp.
> 
> .. and, of course, Dieter's recent booklet on the Neuschwanstein meteorite:
> 
> Die Feuerkugel vom 6. April 2002 und der sensationelle Meteoritenfall 
> Neuschwanstein
> 
> Another meteorite booklet for the beginning collector in German is/was 
> Heide's 
> book:
> 
> F. Heide, Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 2nd edn., 1957, pp. 142.
> F. Heide, Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 3rd edn., 1988, pp. 188.*
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> * updated by F. Wlotzka
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Re: [meteorite-list] TUCSON AUCTION - On line catalog started (AD)

[Michael L Blood]

Greetings all,
For those interested in seeing the first 35 items already submitted
for the Tucson Auction (Sat, Feb.5th) , go to:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionTucson05.html

and hit the link for the On Line Catalog.
The first 35 photos are up and an additional 30 items are listed
(Their photos will be up shortly).
People interested in listing items need to submit forthwith. Items
with no minimum will be given preference, as will items of exceptional
quality and a low opening minimum. Items not meeting these criteria
are subject to rejection. However, the sooner the submission, the greater
the likelihood of acceptance.
As you can see, there are numerous excellent specimens with no minimum
at all. This should make for an exciting event. I will be posting photos to
the site as quickly as possible, so the site should have tons of photos in
the immediate future.
Note: you can click on the small image to see a much larger image of
each item. 
Please contact me off list for absentee bids or to list items for
sale. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[Walter Branch]

Good Evening List,

Any hobby is as expensive or not as you make it, including meteorites.

The tricky part is to stay within ones limitations (I think Dirty Harry once
said that).

-Walter
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> I would say  cheating death is a pretty expensive hobby, drinking and
> gambling are pretty expensive hobbies, they can cost one a life's'
> fortune, or one's life.  Smoking costs lives.
> Love of motor racing, skydiving.
> Define expensive...in terms of dollar bills...Penny Marshall has
> a pretty rich collection of sports memorabilia ...tens of  millions of
> dollars worthsame with collectable cars, a few million here or
> there.Airplane collectors can roll out a number of millions on
> specific planes...  the top ten Elvis or Beatles memorabilia, or the top
> five Star trek colletors...tens of millions of dollars for the top
> collections.  Babe Ruth's baseball bat, 1.5 million dollars.   Honus
> Wagner baseball card ~ 1 million dollars.
> And then there are paintings and rare art  Roy Rogers, John Wayne,
> acting memorabilia ...mmm.
> My bet is meteorites is up there but not at the top possibly because it
> is not as popular as baseball cards or comic books.
> More responses welcome!
> Dave F.
> Stromatoliteman
> mjwy
>
>
> Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
>
> >Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
> >about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
> >it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
> >not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
> >horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
> >haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
> >put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most
expensive
> >hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
know
> >your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
> >
> >
> >steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
> >
> >=
> >Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> >I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

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I would say  cheating death is a pretty expensive hobby, drinking and 
gambling are pretty expensive hobbies, they can cost one a life's' 
fortune, or one's life.  Smoking costs lives.  
Love of motor racing, skydiving.
Define expensive...in terms of dollar bills...Penny Marshall has 
a pretty rich collection of sports memorabilia ...tens of  millions of 
dollars worthsame with collectable cars, a few million here or 
there.Airplane collectors can roll out a number of millions on 
specific planes...  the top ten Elvis or Beatles memorabilia, or the top 
five Star trek colletors...tens of millions of dollars for the top 
collections.  Babe Ruth's baseball bat, 1.5 million dollars.   Honus 
Wagner baseball card ~ 1 million dollars.
And then there are paintings and rare art  Roy Rogers, John Wayne, 
acting memorabilia ...mmm.
My bet is meteorites is up there but not at the top possibly because it 
is not as popular as baseball cards or comic books.
More responses welcome!
Dave F.  
Stromatoliteman
mjwy

Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
   steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
=
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I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[joseph_town]

That's Freddie Rembrandt, Arnold da Vinci and Carl Van Gogh of course.

Bill


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> Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
> about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
> it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
> not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
> horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
> haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
> put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
> hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
> your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
> 
> 
> steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
> 
> =
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> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[joseph_town]

Steve,

I collect Rembrandt, Van Gogh and Da Vinci, but that's just me.

Bill


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> Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
> about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
> it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
> not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
> horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
> haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
> put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
> hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
> your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
> 
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[Bob Holmes]

I don't believe finding Calcalong Creek cost him a whole lot.
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Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
=
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Re: [meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[Bernhard Rems]

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Am Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:18:41 -0800 (PST), schrieb Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!:
> Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work
> today about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can
> be no doubt it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is
> obvious that you do not know your expensive hobbies.She started
> rattling off things about horses and motor cycles.I said you are
> nuts.I explained to her about bob haag finding calcalong creek.Her
> mouth stopped and she went silent.So I put it you, the meteorite
> hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive hobby
> is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me
> know your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.
>
>
> steve arnold, chicago, usa!!
>
> =
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[meteorite-list] The most expensive hobby??

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Hi list, and goodafternoon.I had a discussion with someone at work today
about,What is the most expensive hobby.Well I said, There can be no doubt
it is meteorite collecting.Well than she said, it is obvious that you do
not know your expensive hobbies.She started rattling off things about
horses and motor cycles.I said you are nuts.I explained to her about bob
haag finding calcalong creek.Her mouth stopped and she went silent.So I
put it you, the meteorite hobbyist.What do you think is the most expensive
hobby is?Questions, comments,critisims, rebuttles, are welcome.Let me know
your thoughts.I think it is an interesting question.


steve arnold, chicago, usa!!

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[meteorite-list] French meteorite book/German books

[bernd . pauli]

> Carion, Alain translated by Bernd Pauli 1996 Meteorite. Published by the 
> author, Paris, France. German language 1st edition. Soft cover, 40 pp.

The English translation was done by our own Anne Black !

But Martin is right with regard to Rolf W.Buehler's: Meteorite - Urmaterie
aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988. It is the only comprehensive book on
meteorites in German that can compare with O.R. Norton's books.

> Heinlein, Dieter 2003 Gotterboten Feuer vom Himmel. by Volkssternwarte 
> Laupheim e. V Softcover, 25 pp.

.. and, of course, Dieter's recent booklet on the Neuschwanstein meteorite:

Die Feuerkugel vom 6. April 2002 und der sensationelle Meteoritenfall 
Neuschwanstein

Another meteorite booklet for the beginning collector in German is/was Heide's 
book:

F. Heide, Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 2nd edn., 1957, pp. 142.
F. Heide, Kleine Meteoritenkunde, 3rd edn., 1988, pp. 188.*

* updated by F. Wlotzka


Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book/German books

[meteoriteplaya]

Hi Martin
You are actually quite fortunate that there are several books on general 
knowledge of meteorites written in German. I have several of these books in my 
collection including;

Carion, Alain translated by Bernd Pauli 1996 Meteorite. Published by the 
author, Paris, France. German language 1st edition. Soft cover, 40 pp.

Heinlein, Dieter 2003 Gotterboten Feuer vom Himmel. by Volkssternwarte Laupheim 
e. V Softcover, 25 pp.

Retyi, Andreas von and Aumann, Georg 1996 Meteorite - Boten aus dem. Weltall 
Naturkunde-Museum Coburg Softcover 116 pp. 

Schlüter, Jochen 1996 Steine des Himmels: Meteorite. Ellert and Richter, 
Hamburg, Germany, Soft cover 123 pp. 

Warth, Manfred and Reiff, Winfried 1992 Meteorite und Meteoritekrater. by 
Stuttgarter Beitrage zur Naturkunde. Softcover , 47 pp.

I'm sure there are others. All are available from various sources. I can let 
you know who to purchase them from if you need it. Don't forget lots of other 
languages have even fewer available. I don't have any Italian language books in 
my collection as well as numerous others.
I don't know of any that are specific to German meteorites by location but 
there are a couple of excellent web sites that cover the topic very well. Here 
is a good one 
http://www.astroamateur.de/meteorite/metd.html

Mike "Book nut of all languages who only speaks/reads one"


Mike Jensen IMCA 4264
Bill Jensen IMCA 2359
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>  I hope you'll prepare some autographed copies for the list members
> Congrats.
> 
> A comprehensive book about German meteorites as well as good book in German
> about meteorites in general,
> is missing.
> 
> Best, but not available anymore, is still Rolf W.Buehler's: Meteorite -
> Urmaterie aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988.
> 
> Cheeers!
> Martin
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pelé Pierre-Marie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MeteoriteList" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:55 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release !
> **
> 
> 
> > Hello to the List,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of my
> > book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> > pratique" (in english : French meteorites : practical
> > guide).
> >
> > You can have a look at the front cover with this link
> > :
> > http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
> >
> > Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432 pages.
> > Will be sold in most french bookshop and on websites
> > like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
> >
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[meteorite-list] RE: How to contact IMCA

[Christian Anger]

Definately !

Don is one of the most reliable persons in this community.
I'll take my hands in fire for him (Austrian saying).

I strongly recommend Don and all the other IMCA staff people.

best wishes fro Austria,

Christian


IMCA #2673
www.austromet.com
 
Christian Anger
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AUSTRIA
 
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  Hi Bernhard and All,
Good question.  Contact Jeff Kuyken to make the changes for the IMCA List :
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And Don Edwards to change the IMCA Member's address on the Website:
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Or simply contact IMCA for both
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The IMCA List archives are available to all IMCA members at:
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best,
Ken Newton

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[meteorite-list] AD: Bison LL6 IMB

[Herbert Raab]

Dear fellow collectors,

the fine pictures of the Hupe's NWA 2394 shock melt breccia remind 
me somewhat of the slice from the Bison (Kansas) LL6 impact melt 
breccia I have. For your viewing plasure, I have posted two images 
of my 29.9g slice:

  http://web.utanet.at/raab/Bison.jpg
  http://web.utanet.at/raab/BisonCloseup.jpg


This piece is on my sales list. If anyone is interested, please contact 
me off list. Thanks.


Hope you like it... :-)

Best greetings,
  Herbert

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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release ! **

[Pelé Pierre-Marie]

Hello Martin,

I hope everyone will enjoy my book. It was a very long
work to write it (2 years). 

It was read by scientists and known meteorite
collectors (Alain Carion  /  Claude Perron, MNHN Paris
 /  Pierre Rochette, CEREGE-CNRS) so there shouldn't
have any error. Also thanks to Alain Carion who made
the preface.

For an autographed copy, I can already announce that
I'll have a table at the Ensisheim Show 2005 so
everyone one can meet me and have an autographed copy
there !

Regards,

Pierre-Marie

 --- Martin Altmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
écrit : 
>  I hope you'll prepare some autographed copies for
> the list members
> Congrats.
> 
> A comprehensive book about German meteorites as well
> as good book in German
> about meteorites in general,
> is missing.
> 
> Best, but not available anymore, is still Rolf
> W.Buehler's: Meteorite -
> Urmaterie aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988.
> 
> Cheeers!
> Martin
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pelé Pierre-Marie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "MeteoriteList"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:55 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book :
> forthcoming release !
> **
> 
> 
> > Hello to the List,
> >
> > I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of
> my
> > book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> > pratique" (in english : French meteorites :
> practical
> > guide).
> >
> > You can have a look at the front cover with this
> link
> > :
> >
>
http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
> >
> > Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432
> pages.
> > Will be sold in most french bookshop and on
> websites
> > like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
> >
> 
>  






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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release ! **

[Martin Altmann]

 I hope you'll prepare some autographed copies for the list members
Congrats.

A comprehensive book about German meteorites as well as good book in German
about meteorites in general,
is missing.

Best, but not available anymore, is still Rolf W.Buehler's: Meteorite -
Urmaterie aus dem interplanetaren Raum, 1988.

Cheeers!
Martin

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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:55 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release !
**


> Hello to the List,
>
> I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of my
> book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> pratique" (in english : French meteorites : practical
> guide).
>
> You can have a look at the front cover with this link
> :
> http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
>
> Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432 pages.
> Will be sold in most french bookshop and on websites
> like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
>

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[meteorite-list] Deep Impact Update - December 9, 2004

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.nasa.gov/centers/kennedy/launchingrockets/status/2004/elvstatus-120904.html

George H. Diller
Kennedy Space Center, Fla.
(321) 867-2468

12.09.04
STATUS REPORT: ELV-120904

EXPENDABLE LAUNCH VEHICLES STATUS REPORT

MISSION: Deep Impact
LAUNCH VEHICLE: Delta II 7925
LAUNCH PAD: Pad 17-B Cape Canaveral Air Force Station
LAUNCH DATE: Jan. 8, 2005
LAUNCH WINDOW: 1:39:50 and 2:19:12 p.m. EST instantaneous

In processing activities at the Astrotech Space Operations facility
located near Kennedy Space Center, the high-gain antenna used for Deep
Impact communications with Earth is being installed today. The solar
array panels successfully completed an illumination test on Wednesday as
a final check of their performance. On Friday, Dec. 10, the flight
battery will be installed. The solar arrays stowed for flight on Dec.
13. Deep Impact will then be ready to begin preparations for fueling,
which is scheduled to start on Dec. 16 and be completed on Dec. 19.
Mating to the payload attach fitting and upper stage booster occurs Dec.
22 - 23.

The spacecraft is currently scheduled to be transported to Pad 17-B on
Dec. 28 and mated to the Boeing Delta II rocket. The Flight Program
Verification, the major integrated test with the Delta II, occurs on
Dec. 30. The Delta II payload fairing will be installed around the Deep
Impact spacecraft on Jan. 4.

NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft arrived in Florida on Oct. 23 to begin
final preparations for launch. The spacecraft was shipped from Ball
Aerospace & Technologies in Boulder, Colo., to Astrotech in Titusville.

Meanwhile, the stacking of the Boeing Delta II launch vehicle on Pad
17-B began on Nov. 22 with the hoisting of the first stage into the
launcher. Hoisting of the nine strap-on solid rocket boosters, in sets
of three, began with the first set on Nov. 23 and the second on Nov 29.
The last set was installed on the vehicle on Dec. 1. The second stage
was hoisted into position atop the first stage on Dec. 3. The payload
fairing was hoisted and stowed in the mobile service tower on Dec. 6.
The first power-on test occurred Dec. 7.

The next event is the vehicle guidance and control system check, which
occurs on Dec. 13. The loading of liquid oxygen aboard the first stage
for a leak check and a countdown launch team certification exercise is
scheduled to occur on Dec. 14. The Flight Simulation, a plus count that
exercises all of the systems on the vehicle as they will occur during
powered flight, is scheduled for Dec. 15.

The overall Deep Impact mission management for this Discovery class
program is conducted by the University of Maryland in College Park, Md.
Deep Impact project management is handled by the Jet Propulsion
Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. The spacecraft was built for NASA by Ball
Aerospace and Technologies Corporation.

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[meteorite-list] P-M. Pele's Book - Cover Photograph

[bernd . pauli]

Walter Branch wrote:

> Nice cover. Would make an interesting poster sized print.

Confrere Perre-Marie had written:

> It is a computer-generated model. This fall never existed.

But if it does remind you of a real counterpart, then this is
the Peekskill multiple fireball when it was fragmenting into
several pieces (see: O.R. Norton's Encyclopedia, p. 40).

Best wishes,

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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release !**

[Walter Branch]

Nice cover.  Would make an interesting poster sized print.

-Walter
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To: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Meteorite List"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 2:27 PM
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!**


> Hello Michael,
>
> in fact, the landscape was done by a professional
> photographer which I know. The meteor is a
> computer-generated model. This fall never existed ;-)
>
> I thought it could do a very nice picture for my book,
> isn't it ?
>
> Pierre-Marie
>
>  --- Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> > Is that an actual photograph on the cover? If so,
> > was any material recovered? If so, what is the fall?
> > RSVP
> > thanks, Michael
> >
> > on 12/9/04 5:55 AM, Pelé Pierre-Marie at
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Hello to the List,
> > >
> > > I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of
> > my
> > > book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> > > pratique" (in english : French meteorites :
> > practical
> > > guide).
> > >
> > > You can have a look at the front cover with this
> > link
> > > :
> > >
> >
> http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
> > >
> > > Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432
> > pages.
> > > Will be sold in most french bookshop and on
> > websites
> > > like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
> > >
> > > What's inside it ?
> > >
> >
> -
> > > - All french meteorite falls and finds including
> > the
> > > latest one (Plancy-l'Abbaye, Alby-sur-Cheran) with
> > > detailed history (old documents printed),
> > analysis,
> > > bibliography, museum distribution, photos, some
> > maps
> > > - Most of french observed meteors, possible falls
> > to
> > > search for
> > > - French meteorwrongs
> > > - Many exclusive pictures
> > > - Jean-Baptiste Biot integral study of the L'Aigle
> > > fall (1803)
> > > - Glossary, complete classification, tips to hunt
> > > meteorites, websites links...
> > >
> > > Even if you don't speak french, this book might be
> > a
> > > reference book on the subject.
> > >
> > > It will be reviewed in a forthcoming Meteorite
> > > Magazine Issue by Anne Black (Impactika).
> > >
> > > If you wish to buy it or be informed of its
> > release,
> > > just write to me.
> > >
> > > Thanks for reading,
> > >
> > > Pierre-Marie PELE
> > > www.meteor-center.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release ! **

[Pelé Pierre-Marie]

Hello Michael,

in fact, the landscape was done by a professional
photographer which I know. The meteor is a
computer-generated model. This fall never existed ;-)

I thought it could do a very nice picture for my book,
isn't it ?

Pierre-Marie

 --- Michael L Blood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit : 
> Is that an actual photograph on the cover? If so,
> was any material recovered? If so, what is the fall?
> RSVP
> thanks, Michael
> 
> on 12/9/04 5:55 AM, Pelé Pierre-Marie at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Hello to the List,
> > 
> > I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of
> my
> > book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> > pratique" (in english : French meteorites :
> practical
> > guide).
> > 
> > You can have a look at the front cover with this
> link
> > :
> >
>
http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
> > 
> > Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432
> pages.
> > Will be sold in most french bookshop and on
> websites
> > like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
> > 
> > What's inside it ?
> >
>
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> > - All french meteorite falls and finds including
> the
> > latest one (Plancy-l'Abbaye, Alby-sur-Cheran) with
> > detailed history (old documents printed),
> analysis,
> > bibliography, museum distribution, photos, some
> maps
> > - Most of french observed meteors, possible falls
> to
> > search for
> > - French meteorwrongs
> > - Many exclusive pictures
> > - Jean-Baptiste Biot integral study of the L'Aigle
> > fall (1803)
> > - Glossary, complete classification, tips to hunt
> > meteorites, websites links...
> > 
> > Even if you don't speak french, this book might be
> a
> > reference book on the subject.
> > 
> > It will be reviewed in a forthcoming Meteorite
> > Magazine Issue by Anne Black (Impactika).
> > 
> > If you wish to buy it or be informed of its
> release,
> > just write to me.
> > 
> > Thanks for reading,
> > 
> > Pierre-Marie PELE
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Re: [meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release ! **

[Michael L Blood]

Is that an actual photograph on the cover? If so,
was any material recovered? If so, what is the fall?
RSVP
thanks, Michael

on 12/9/04 5:55 AM, Pelé Pierre-Marie at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello to the List,
> 
> I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of my
> book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
> pratique" (in english : French meteorites : practical
> guide).
> 
> You can have a look at the front cover with this link
> :
> http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg
> 
> Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432 pages.
> Will be sold in most french bookshop and on websites
> like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !
> 
> What's inside it ?
> -
> - All french meteorite falls and finds including the
> latest one (Plancy-l'Abbaye, Alby-sur-Cheran) with
> detailed history (old documents printed), analysis,
> bibliography, museum distribution, photos, some maps
> - Most of french observed meteors, possible falls to
> search for
> - French meteorwrongs
> - Many exclusive pictures
> - Jean-Baptiste Biot integral study of the L'Aigle
> fall (1803)
> - Glossary, complete classification, tips to hunt
> meteorites, websites links...
> 
> Even if you don't speak french, this book might be a
> reference book on the subject.
> 
> It will be reviewed in a forthcoming Meteorite
> Magazine Issue by Anne Black (Impactika).
> 
> If you wish to buy it or be informed of its release,
> just write to me.
> 
> Thanks for reading,
> 
> Pierre-Marie PELE
> www.meteor-center.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Mars Express Images: The Channels of Reull Valli

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.esa.int/export/SPECIALS/Mars_Express/SEM1EQWDE2E_0.html

The channels of Reull Vallis
European Space Agency
Mars Express 
7 December 2004

These images, taken by the High Resolution Stereo Camera (HRSC) on board
ESA's Mars Express spacecraft, show a region of Reull Vallis in the
southern hemisphere of Mars.
 
 
Map showing Reull Vallis in context

The images show an area located at about latitude 42° South and
longitude 102° East. The image was taken with a ground resolution of
about 21 metres per pixel during Mars Express orbit 451 in May 2004.

Reull Vallis is an outflow channel that extends 1500 kilometres across
Promethei Terra in the direction of Hellas Basin. It is approximately 20
kilometres wide and has cut into the surrounding plain to a depth of
1800 metres. It is the major outflow channel in the region and exhibits
a high degree of surface modification, suggesting a complex evolution.

 
 

Reull Vallis in colour

In these images, Reull Vallis extends from the east to the north-west
and is connected to a tributary in the south (Teviot Vallis). Distinct
parallel structures are visible in the channels, possibly caused by
glacial flow of loose debris mixed with ice. Small depressions, located
on the flow features, are probably caused by the sublimation of ice.

Numerous impact craters, visible on the flanks of the valley, have been
filled with material from these flows. Distinct flow features can be
recognised within impact craters, for example, the 15-kilometre wide
crater in the west (bottom) of the image.

 
 

3D anaglyph of Reull Vallis
 
There is a clear morphological distinction between the heavily eroded
south-west and the plains of the north-east, which have experienced much
less erosion. While most landforms throughout the image have a rounded,
softened appearance, younger structures have a distinctly sharp and
raised morphology.
 
 

Reull Vallis detail 1

On the southern and western edges of the colour image, large impact
craters are visible. Their diameters range from 15 to 35 kilometres.
These craters have heavily eroded rims and are partly filled with
material. Erosion has left distinct, branched gully systems at the edge
of the large crater that is located on the southern edge of the image.
 
 

Perspective view of Reull Vallis, looking west
 
Image resolution has been decreased for use on the internet. The colour
images were processed using the HRSC nadir (vertical view) and three
colour channels. The perspective views were calculated from the digital
terrain model derived from the stereo channels.
 
 
The 3D anaglyph image was created from the nadir channel and one of the
stereo channels. Stereoscopic glasses are needed to view the 3D image.


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Re: [meteorite-list] "A curious find" (related to Australian incidenton Dec. 6th)

[Michael Farmer]

Anyone in Australia checking on this? It doesnt look that good, but then 
again, could be a muddy piece of CM?
Mike Farmer
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Subject: [meteorite-list] "A curious find" (related to Australian incidenton 
Dec. 6th)

http://taree.yourguide.com.au/detail.asp?class=news&subclass=local&category=general%20news&story_id=356075&y=2004&m=12
A curious find
Wednesday, 8 December 2004
"I THINK I might have a few pieces of the meteorite."
An excited Dianne Slaven contacted the Times yesterday morning, after she 
and her sons collected
some curiosities in their Wingham yard.

"I remembered kicking this black rock off the path. It wasn't until I went 
to squash last night that
I heard people talking about what had happened.

"When I went home I again found the rock, and the kids found two more on the 
lawn."

The fragments have all the telltale signs of coming from anywhere but local.
They are misshapen, and leave sooty marks on your hands.
The largest measures about 10cms, the smallest is about 5cm.
They weren't embedded in the ground, as one would expect if they had hurtled 
from the sky after
Monday morning's meteor 'explosion' over the Manning.

Dianne and her sons admit to sleeping through the commotion which woke most 
Manning residents
shortly after 4.15am.

Yesterday, the Times had a local amateur astronomer, Peter Langdown, check 
the pieces the family
collected.

Peter told Dianne he believed the pieces could possibly be from a meteor and 
has recommended she get
in touch with the Sydney Observatory, which will conduct tests to determine 
their origin.

Even if they can't be authenticated, young Mitchell (10), Reece (eight) and 
Jai (five) will
certainly have something interesting to take to 'show and tell' at Wingham 
Public School.

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[meteorite-list] AD-New Shock Melt Breccia - NWA 2394

[Greg Hupe]

Dear list,
I would like to announce a very beautiful L4 Shock Melt Breccia. It has 
shock levels ranging from 3-6, giving it a wonderful mosaic appearance. This 
is the nicest I have seen in a long time. I just listed it last night under 
my eBay seller name, naturesvault. It is gorgeous! There was only a single 
stone weighing 277 grams and after cutting and polishing losses, there is 
not much to go around. Here are the direct links to the listed auctions:

New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 27.4g Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292932863&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 13.3g Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292933222&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 10.5g Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292933372&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 8.7g Part Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292933591&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 4.7g Part Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292933768&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 4.5g Complete Slice
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292933974&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
New - NWA 2394 L4 Shock Melt Breccia 3.1g End Cut
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2292934146&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT
There are only four complete slice available and they are listed now.
Best regards and Happy Holidays,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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[meteorite-list] Tokyo show/ wonderful new meteorite

[Michael Farmer]

I am leaving for Tokyo on Monday morning, so anyone who wants anything needs 
to let me know asap so I can ship before I leave.

On another note, I have a very rare meteorite that I will be putting up for 
sale this afternoon. Only 2 known!
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Re: [meteorite-list] NWA supply slowing?

[S. Ralew]

Hi Jamie, Bill, Bernhard and List,

yes, I also think that most of the interesting NWA-Meteorites are outside
Morocco and wait for a definite classification. I for example wait already
longer than a year for some classifications of rare pieces. The more unusual
the pieces are, the longer the classification lasts. Some interesting
Meteorite will come onto the market again and again in future. In my
experience the Moroccans hold little material back. Mostly, they immediately
take everything they have on the market. After my observation there are a
few signs for a near end of the nwa flood. On my last Morocco tour in Oct
2004 I have seen hardly any interesting material. The beautiful black desert
chondrites also have become very rare. And the prices are partly very high.
Some people in Morocco think that they are millionaires because they own a
500 g NWA869. ;-) Because of the high travelling expenses you can make
probably better deals on the big mineral shows than in Marocco at the
moment.

But Morocco is still a very beautiful country for me. The people there are
kind, tolerant and helpful mostly.
And, there must be an air corridor for meteorites. Bensour, Amgala and now
Benguerir - this pieces are great! Where can get you an absolutely fresh
fall for $3 - $6/ gm otherwise??

Best regards,
Stefan

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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] NWA supply slowing?


> I'd also be willing to bet that there is a lot more NWA material stocked
around the world than remains in NWA itself. I think the average person in
that part of the world must be pretty motivated to find and sell as fast as
they can. Highly motivated to put forth a LOT of effort to round up
everything they can. Ask any homeless person in the US or anywhere. Do you
think they stockpile their aluminum cans waiting for prices to go up?
>
> Bill
>
>
>  -- Original message --
> From: Jamie Stephens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Folks,
> >
> > A few knowledgeable dealers have recently commented that the
> > supply of NWA meteorites is slowing.  Who agrees or disagrees,
> > and what are the signs?  If the flow is slowing, how much?
> >
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[meteorite-list] ** French meteorite book : forthcoming release ! **

[Pelé Pierre-Marie]

Hello to the List,

I'm happy to announce the forthcoming release of my
book called "Les Meteorites francaises - Guide
pratique" (in english : French meteorites : practical
guide).

You can have a look at the front cover with this link
:
http://www.meteor-center.com/livre/images/couverture.jpg

Price will be 45 euros. ISBN 270566498X. 432 pages.
Will be sold in most french bookshop and on websites
like Amazon, Fnac, Alapage... worldwide !

What's inside it ?
-
- All french meteorite falls and finds including the
latest one (Plancy-l'Abbaye, Alby-sur-Cheran) with
detailed history (old documents printed), analysis,
bibliography, museum distribution, photos, some maps
- Most of french observed meteors, possible falls to
search for
- French meteorwrongs
- Many exclusive pictures
- Jean-Baptiste Biot integral study of the L'Aigle
fall (1803)
- Glossary, complete classification, tips to hunt
meteorites, websites links...

Even if you don't speak french, this book might be a
reference book on the subject.

It will be reviewed in a forthcoming Meteorite
Magazine Issue by Anne Black (Impactika).

If you wish to buy it or be informed of its release,
just write to me.

Thanks for reading,

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[meteorite-list] How to contact IMCA

[ken newton]

 Hi Bernhard and All,
Good question.  Contact Jeff Kuyken to make the changes for the IMCA List :
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And Don Edwards to change the IMCA Member's address on the Website:
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Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir

[aziz habibi]

hello list and all
the new fall that i have is all sold , include the orionted one sold  .
what was offered to mike and to other is the same stone  from the same 
source and its already gone for private collection
so for now in morroco there is nothing for sell exept what philipe thomas is 
selling,
well the 4$ our friends sade doesnt exist any more
i  think that this fall will be one of the most expenssive falls ,
also some interting stone from mahbas pallasite are showing up and its not a 
raison to make the prise down.
as i sad before time will tell the trueth,

keep up the good work guys
all the best from nwa
aziz

From: "Greg Hupe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir
Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 13:49:12 -0600
Hi Mike and all,
Yesterday I was offered 5.5 kilos at 24 Dirhams (roughly $3.00) per gram 
and I turned it down as something smelled bad with the urgency of the deal. 
That, and the pieces were broken and large, perfect for cutting however. I 
would have jumped if they were small individuals.

Take care,
Greg
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Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir nice stone


I was just 5 minutes ago offered 3 kilograms of pieces and individuals at 
35 dirhams per gram, just over $4 gram, and I turned that down.
The flood of this material is coming, just one week ago it was $10 gram 
and virtually nothing was available.
Patience people, it will be available and cheap in a few more weeks.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - From: "aziz habibi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 11:15 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] ad sale, benguerir nice stone


hello list
here is photo of a nice benguerir compleat stone 677 gr .
http://fr.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/azizhabibi/my_photos
its may be the first stone to have been founld compleat,
nicely orionted you can see the lips over the face of the stone.
its for sell and i will sell it for the best offer.
let me know your offer.
thanks
aziz
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

mah...its many strange this fallall have say the police have take all 
pieces of this fall, and now I seen many moroccan person give kilos of this 
meteoritemany strange

MC
From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "McomeMeteorite Meteorite" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall
Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 06:03:51 -0700

Gibe me a break Matteo, this is not a fake fall.
Mike Farmer
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Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 5:41 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall


I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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[meteorite-list] How to contact IMCA

[Bernhard Rems]

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Does someone know how I can make this change known to the IMCA list, so that I 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

[Michael Farmer]

Gibe me a break Matteo, this is not a fake fall.
Mike Farmer
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Subject: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall


I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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Re: [meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

[Bernhard Rems]

That's about  $4, the same as they offered to Mike and Greg.

I would be cautious and wait.
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>
> I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr.
> its a good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new
> fall many similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall
> where the moroccan people have put some pieces of Bensour in a
> crater and pass this for a new fall.
>
> Matteo
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[meteorite-list] New Moroccan fall

[McomeMeteorite Meteorite]

I have received a offer for 2.2 kg. of the new fall for 3 Euro/gr. its a 
good price? Strangly now the moroccan people paired this new fall many 
similar to Bensour, i hope only this is not a fake fall where the moroccan 
people have put some pieces of Bensour in a crater and pass this for a new 
fall.

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[meteorite-list] the pellisons

[Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!]

Good morning list from chicago.Just a quick note note from my side of the
lake.I got a nice 300 gram fragment of DAG 749,CO3 from them 3 years ago.I
have had no problems with them, but have not got anything since.Just my 2
cents on the whole pellison matter.Have a nice day.

 steve

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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture Of The Day - December 9, 2004

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Re: [meteorite-list] Pellissons, the truth about their lies

[joseph_town]

"Biased and don't care either way." That's my last stupid remark of the day, at 
least this morning,

Bill waves


 -- Original message --
From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dear List Members,
> 
> as you can read the Pellison will never assume their acts.
> We can give you their answers without doubts as we have their attorney
> statements and all the documents in hands:
> 
> 1) Did you use names and parts of private mails out of context to try to
> convict the Judge
>  that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
> - "Yes we did, the list of names that Bruno & Carine provide you have been
> involved
> front of the Lyon's Court as supporters of terrorism." (list still available
> at the end of this mail)
> 
> 2) -"Yes, the next day we have been sentenced we sent two documents totaling
> 64 pages
> to all the medias, Institutions and Ministers, in these documents, false
> statements and letters; In this way
> we did try to show that scientists are corrupt and get money from NWA
> dealers to
> launder meteorites and meteorites funding."
> 
> 3) Did you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well as
>  Customs offices ?
> -"Yes, we did ,  we are stating (word to word) in all our documents, the
> whole list of rare NWA
> as well as people names have been transmitted."
> 
> 4) did you declared in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON
> came to Morocco
>  to fix the details of the meteorite business ?
> -"Yes, we did , do you want to read it ?"
> 
> 5) what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ?
> -"Well, this you will ALL discover soon, as it's a surprise
> we can't tell you now, surprises are always so sweet."
> 
> So this is what we can tell from their written declarations. All these
> officials papers
> will be at the Inn Suites in Tucson. Pass by, have a look, make your own
> idea of the
> danger. As some of you wrote us: we all have to wake up and see the
> IMMENSITY
> of the potential negative results of the actions of the Pellissons. This is
> the first time in
> meteorites history that a threat between two parts (and we didn't begin
> anything as we
> don't mind about other's stories as far as they don't attack us) will have
> hard consequences
> for everybody.
> 
> Pelisons, we already ship our material, it's in storage in Tucson, don't
> waste your time
> to send pictures and lists to Ministers and Customs. We already have been
> investigated in all
> ways even by tax people we are 100% fed up by your madness. Go back to
> Libya to
> steel other's ellipses (as you did for the German's CO3 and AEUC-P).
> It's not the other's
> fault if you never found something of interest and you have to understand
> that the
> scientists are fine with NWA specimens, it's the first time in history that
> so much affordable
> specimens are available for science, it will grow up Human Beeing's
> knowledge.
> 
> To establish the Truth,
> 
> Bruno & Carine
> www.meteorite.ch
> 
> PS: we are leaving to Japan Tuesday so Mrss if you have anything to say do
> it now
> and not like you did three times in the past (cf last Tucson show), a knife
> in the back is not fair.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:29 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson,the best of hypocrisy
> 
> 
> > Mr Pellissons,
> >
> > we finally found the way of emailing directly to the list... we don't
> >
> > hide anywhere and don't have to answer that kind of small remarks...
> >
> >
> >
> > A lot of people would like YOU to answer these questions :
> >
> > -Didn't you use names and parts of private mails to try to convict the
> Judge
> > that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
> >
> > -The 9 march of this year (the day you have been sentenced guilty by
> Lyon's
> > Court)
> > didn't you send to major medias
> > a 64 pages document of lies involving half of the scientists and
> collectors
> > (you must have spend a whole month to invent that !)
> >
> > -Didn't you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well
> as
> > Customs offices ?
> >
> > -You're stating that nothing is illegally done front of the Court, but
> your
> > attorney
> >
> > present part of mails out of context where you are 100% lying. You even
> > declared
> > in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON came to Morocco
> > to fix the details of the meteorite business .
> >
> >
> > For all of this we have the papers in hands and Court statements !
> >
> >
> >
> > You are involving just everybody and worst we know only the surface of the
> > iceberg, what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ?
> >
> >
> > Answer these questions front of the people you are using to build
> > your lies !
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear List Members, can you imagine the consequences of such declarations ?
> >
> >
> >
> > They said that no sc

Re: [meteorite-list] Pellissons, the truth about their lies

[joseph_town]

It's really refreshing to see that other nationalities are so hateful of each 
other among their own. It relieves a lot of stress, in my mind, that is so 
often directed at us poor old Americans. It kind of makes me feel genuinely 
international. Let the courts decide. Forget the paranoia and the Pellisons. If 
the world courts can't see how ignorant it is, we should all become vegetable 
farmers. I love my vegetable garden so I'm biased and don't care either way.

Bill

 
 -- Original message --
From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Dear List Members,
> 
> as you can read the Pellison will never assume their acts.
> We can give you their answers without doubts as we have their attorney
> statements and all the documents in hands:
> 
> 1) Did you use names and parts of private mails out of context to try to
> convict the Judge
>  that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
> - "Yes we did, the list of names that Bruno & Carine provide you have been
> involved
> front of the Lyon's Court as supporters of terrorism." (list still available
> at the end of this mail)
> 
> 2) -"Yes, the next day we have been sentenced we sent two documents totaling
> 64 pages
> to all the medias, Institutions and Ministers, in these documents, false
> statements and letters; In this way
> we did try to show that scientists are corrupt and get money from NWA
> dealers to
> launder meteorites and meteorites funding."
> 
> 3) Did you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well as
>  Customs offices ?
> -"Yes, we did ,  we are stating (word to word) in all our documents, the
> whole list of rare NWA
> as well as people names have been transmitted."
> 
> 4) did you declared in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON
> came to Morocco
>  to fix the details of the meteorite business ?
> -"Yes, we did , do you want to read it ?"
> 
> 5) what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ?
> -"Well, this you will ALL discover soon, as it's a surprise
> we can't tell you now, surprises are always so sweet."
> 
> So this is what we can tell from their written declarations. All these
> officials papers
> will be at the Inn Suites in Tucson. Pass by, have a look, make your own
> idea of the
> danger. As some of you wrote us: we all have to wake up and see the
> IMMENSITY
> of the potential negative results of the actions of the Pellissons. This is
> the first time in
> meteorites history that a threat between two parts (and we didn't begin
> anything as we
> don't mind about other's stories as far as they don't attack us) will have
> hard consequences
> for everybody.
> 
> Pelisons, we already ship our material, it's in storage in Tucson, don't
> waste your time
> to send pictures and lists to Ministers and Customs. We already have been
> investigated in all
> ways even by tax people we are 100% fed up by your madness. Go back to
> Libya to
> steel other's ellipses (as you did for the German's CO3 and AEUC-P).
> It's not the other's
> fault if you never found something of interest and you have to understand
> that the
> scientists are fine with NWA specimens, it's the first time in history that
> so much affordable
> specimens are available for science, it will grow up Human Beeing's
> knowledge.
> 
> To establish the Truth,
> 
> Bruno & Carine
> www.meteorite.ch
> 
> PS: we are leaving to Japan Tuesday so Mrss if you have anything to say do
> it now
> and not like you did three times in the past (cf last Tucson show), a knife
> in the back is not fair.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:29 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson,the best of hypocrisy
> 
> 
> > Mr Pellissons,
> >
> > we finally found the way of emailing directly to the list... we don't
> >
> > hide anywhere and don't have to answer that kind of small remarks...
> >
> >
> >
> > A lot of people would like YOU to answer these questions :
> >
> > -Didn't you use names and parts of private mails to try to convict the
> Judge
> > that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
> >
> > -The 9 march of this year (the day you have been sentenced guilty by
> Lyon's
> > Court)
> > didn't you send to major medias
> > a 64 pages document of lies involving half of the scientists and
> collectors
> > (you must have spend a whole month to invent that !)
> >
> > -Didn't you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well
> as
> > Customs offices ?
> >
> > -You're stating that nothing is illegally done front of the Court, but
> your
> > attorney
> >
> > present part of mails out of context where you are 100% lying. You even
> > declared
> > in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON came to Morocco
> > to fix the details of the meteorite business .
> >
> >
> > For all of this we have the papers in hands and Court statements !
> >
> >
> >
> > You are invol

[meteorite-list] Pellissons, the truth about their lies

[The Earth's Memory]

Dear List Members,

as you can read the Pellison will never assume their acts.
We can give you their answers without doubts as we have their attorney
statements and all the documents in hands:

1) Did you use names and parts of private mails out of context to try to
convict the Judge
 that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
- "Yes we did, the list of names that Bruno & Carine provide you have been
involved
front of the Lyon's Court as supporters of terrorism." (list still available
at the end of this mail)

2) -"Yes, the next day we have been sentenced we sent two documents totaling
64 pages
to all the medias, Institutions and Ministers, in these documents, false
statements and letters; In this way
we did try to show that scientists are corrupt and get money from NWA
dealers to
launder meteorites and meteorites funding."

3) Did you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well as
 Customs offices ?
-"Yes, we did ,  we are stating (word to word) in all our documents, the
whole list of rare NWA
as well as people names have been transmitted."

4) did you declared in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON
came to Morocco
 to fix the details of the meteorite business ?
-"Yes, we did , do you want to read it ?"

5) what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ?
-"Well, this you will ALL discover soon, as it's a surprise
we can't tell you now, surprises are always so sweet."

So this is what we can tell from their written declarations. All these
officials papers
will be at the Inn Suites in Tucson. Pass by, have a look, make your own
idea of the
danger. As some of you wrote us: we all have to wake up and see the
IMMENSITY
of the potential negative results of the actions of the Pellissons. This is
the first time in
meteorites history that a threat between two parts (and we didn't begin
anything as we
don't mind about other's stories as far as they don't attack us) will have
hard consequences
for everybody.

Pelisons, we already ship our material, it's in storage in Tucson, don't
waste your time
to send pictures and lists to Ministers and Customs. We already have been
investigated in all
ways even by tax people we are 100% fed up by your madness. Go back to
Libya to
steel other's ellipses (as you did for the German's CO3 and AEUC-P).
It's not the other's
fault if you never found something of interest and you have to understand
that the
scientists are fine with NWA specimens, it's the first time in history that
so much affordable
specimens are available for science, it will grow up Human Beeing's
knowledge.

To establish the Truth,

Bruno & Carine
www.meteorite.ch

PS: we are leaving to Japan Tuesday so Mrss if you have anything to say do
it now
and not like you did three times in the past (cf last Tucson show), a knife
in the back is not fair.




- Original Message - 
From: "The Earth's Memory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2004 6:29 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Pellisson,the best of hypocrisy


> Mr Pellissons,
>
> we finally found the way of emailing directly to the list... we don't
>
> hide anywhere and don't have to answer that kind of small remarks...
>
>
>
> A lot of people would like YOU to answer these questions :
>
> -Didn't you use names and parts of private mails to try to convict the
Judge
> that meteorites have a link with Al Queda ?
>
> -The 9 march of this year (the day you have been sentenced guilty by
Lyon's
> Court)
> didn't you send to major medias
> a 64 pages document of lies involving half of the scientists and
collectors
> (you must have spend a whole month to invent that !)
>
> -Didn't you contact the Interior's Minister and Court des Comptes as well
as
> Customs offices ?
>
> -You're stating that nothing is illegally done front of the Court, but
your
> attorney
>
> present part of mails out of context where you are 100% lying. You even
> declared
> in a big French's newspaper that BIN LADEN IN PERSON came to Morocco
> to fix the details of the meteorite business .
>
>
> For all of this we have the papers in hands and Court statements !
>
>
>
> You are involving just everybody and worst we know only the surface of the
> iceberg, what else did you do that will hurt the others in the future ?
>
>
> Answer these questions front of the people you are using to build
> your lies !
>
>
>
>
> Dear List Members, can you imagine the consequences of such declarations ?
>
>
>
> They said that no scientists are publishing on NWA, that all scientists
are
> calling
>
> NWA meteorite "bastard child". They are speaking in the name of the Nom
> Com
>
>
>
> They did present themselves as scientists witch they are not,
> they are speaking on the name of the entire community
> but nobody ever give them this right.
>
>
>
> We ask all of you to react NOW, because if you don't you will be stop at
>
> Customs with the possibility to lose everything, in some countries some
> could go
>
> in jail an