Re: [meteorite-list] chondrules?

[Darren Garrison]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:31:58 -0500, "Gerald Flaherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'd like to thank all who responded to my question. All the responses 
>promoted a better understanding of the "nature" of chondrules which remain 
>another marvelous mystery to ponder without dwelling upon.

All this talk of examining chondrules made me take a closer look at an 
unclassified NWA slice I had
bought a few weeks back but hadn't really taken a close look at before.  
Looking at it under 60x, I
was shocked at just how nice it is, and what a diversity of chondrules it has.  
The slice is right
at 40mm across at the widest, weighs 12 grams, and cost me only $4.00.  Seeing 
it now, it looks to
be one of the best bargins I've had so far.  This scan with my flatbed scanner 
can't begin to do it
justice, but I don't have a good way to take micro photos.  Note especially the 
objects in the lower
right quarter.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[tracy latimer]

"Gentlemen",
Are you hinting you would like to be considered for the Harvey Award at some 
point?

Sour grapes,
Tracy Latimer

Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in which 
he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a geologist 
and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old man just 
waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite collection doing 
no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily agree with 
everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my view this 
award has very little meaning attached to it because of the group handing 
it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination procedure involved or 
posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism scheme and showering of 
affection work for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this 
way. Did you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together 
willy nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in 
planetary science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

we are tired of your idiocies


 --- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> Greetings List;
> 
> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in 
> which he informed me that among other things, Dr.
> Ehlmann was "barely a 
> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also
> called him, "an old 
> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator
> of a meteorite 
> collection doing no real research". He said more but
> I don't necessarily 
> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters
> not much since in my 
> view this award has very little meaning attached to
> it because of the 
> group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination 
> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism 
> scheme and showering of affection work for a group
> who even his 
> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you
> include the Dean's 
> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly
> to keep misconduct 
> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary
> science?
> 
> Cordially,
> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

> 
> Notkin wrote:
> 
> > Dear Friends and Listees:
> >
> > I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson 
> > show. This was my first show as a legal resident
> of the great state of 
> > Arizona and it was a very different experience for
> me. I had a house 
> > full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday
> bash, met with 
> > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought
> and traded for a few 
> > collection pieces, and generally ran around like a
> lunatic taking care 
> > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I
> think it was more fun 
> > when I used come out here for a vacation each
> February . . . but then 
> > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
> part wasn't so fun   
> > : )
> >
> > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined
> Steve Arnold IMB and 
> > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party
> and Harvey Awards. The 
> > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club,
> inside the Arizona 
> > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
> venues, and I agree. Our 
> > many guests were able to move around and
> socialize, instead of being 
> > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while
> experiencing lousy 
> > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly
> enjoyed having a stage 
> > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will
> return to the Copper 
> > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >
> > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >
> > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >
> > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime 
> > achievement award  : )  There are many other
> deserving people in our 
> > community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >
> > Low point of the show this year was when somebody
> stole one of our 
> > Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to
> the awards 
> > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that --
> thanks to our thief -- 
> > we did not have an award to give to our final
> recipient (E.T.), but I 
> > was able to make another one, and deliver it to
> E.T.'s room before he 
> > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something
> of a hot item, but 
> > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a
> special "Jackass of 
> > the Year" certificate for the person who stole the
> award, and we'll 
> > leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to
> steal that too. 
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink &
> Larry Monrad and 
> > Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama
> birthday cake, which 
> > they very kindly brought to the party. This year's
> cake was the best 
> > ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB,
> and my great friend 
> > Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as
> chauffeur to buying us 
> > drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison
> of Sirocco Design, a 
> > very talented jewelry designer, who served as our
> glamorous hostess 
> > *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A.
> Langheinrich auction.
> >
> > As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great
> event (I came home with 
> > the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than
> ever this year. Allan 
> > Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too,
> and I shocked everyone 
> > by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year
> with the tie isn't 
> > so bad.
> >
> > It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector
> Martin Horejsi, 
> 

Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/SIKHOTEALINGR.7.2.JPG

a perfect oriented bullett with flow lines, the photo
is not nice, but its a perfect bullet like to those
after I fire it when I go to shoot

Matteo


 --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512363256
> 
> Now this is what I would call an oriented bullet! 
> Mike Farmer
> 
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=
M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato
Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it 
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
International Meteorite Collectors Association #2140
MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/



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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[tracy latimer]

What a Valentine's Day gift!
I darn near alienated my husband because I grabbed the package out of the 
mailbox, ripped off the envelope, and immediately disappeared into it for 2 
hours, putting off the laundry, the dinner... you get the idea.

An excellent book, one I highly recommend.  Great story telling, lovely 
pictures, good science.  You can't beat the combo!

#106,
Tracy Latimer
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Dan Wray]

Toms and all,

Sorry for the confusion.  When this was originally posted I emailed the
seller about his error and he immediately changed it.  Lets move on.

Dan Wray

- Original Message -
From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s


> "I just think we should be a little more careful in criticizing other
> peoples
>  ebay ads"
>
> When I sent it to the list, it said meteorite in the title and
> description I can't help it if he fixed it afterwards!  If someone is
> going to call a geode a meteorite and list in in the meteorite category, I
> am going to call them on it!  Sorry, but I believe in being truthful, but
> that's just me!!!
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA 6168
> http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> http://fstop.proboards24.com/
> - Original Message -
> From: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s
>
>
> > Hello Tom,
> > The seller says it is a geode, which it is.  He made a
> > mistake in not refining his category for this
> > particular specimen which is easy to do, but he has
> > not called it a meteorite.  I just think we should be
> > a little more careful in criticizing other peoples
> > ebay ads.  Even when they appear fradulent to a well
> > informed person, they may not be, as evidenced by a
> > recent post on another list.
> > You have had some interesting posts to the list that
> > are more meteorite related. Keep them coming!
> > My best,
> > Thomas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> Don't you know sarcasm when you here it???  I know
> >> it is not a meteorite,
> >> but the seller seems to think it is!
> >> Thanks, Tom
> >> peregrineflier <><
> >> IMCA 6168
> >>
> > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> >> http://fstop.proboards24.com/
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> >> 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:10 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite!
> >> : s
> >>
> >>
> >> > That's just a normal geode Tom.
> >> > I have dozens of them.
> >> > Thomas
> >> >
> >> > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512516161&;
rd=1
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks, Tom
> >> >> peregrineflier <><
> >> >> IMCA 6168
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> > http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> >> >> http://fstop.proboards24.com/
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Did Gibeons Collide?

[Darren Garrison]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 02:06:32 +0100, "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Hi Ruben,
>
>> Has anyone else ever seen ( outside of a museum)
>> something like this?
>
>yes.
>
>In Buehlers book, p.120, is a 50cm Gibeon slice, composed from 9 taenite
>crytals, all with different orientation of the Thompson (how politically
>corret I am today) structure (i.e. Widmannstaetter Pattern). My old scanner
>left me 2 weeks ago, perhaps Bernd may scan it for you.

I don't have the book you mention, but here's a good explanitory illustration 
from the 1987 edition
of Meteorites and their Parent Planets (page 164) showing how different 
sections through a crystal
give different patterns:

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[David Freeman]

Dear S.Ray;
I think that your credability here  is much more in question than that 
of Dr. Ehlmann.

Dave Freeman
S. Ray DeRusse wrote:
Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely 
a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an 
old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't 
necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not 
much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to 
it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of 
election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How 
does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work for 
a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you 
include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly 
to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary 
science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com
 

Notkin wrote:
Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state 
of Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a 
house full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met 
with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for 
a few collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic 
taking care of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it 
was more fun when I used come out here for a vacation each February . 
. . but then I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part 
wasn't so fun   : )

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB 
and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey 
Awards. The consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside 
the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I 
agree. Our many guests were able to move around and socialize, 
instead of being pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while 
experiencing lousy waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly 
enjoyed having a stage from which to present the Harvey Awards. We 
will return to the Copper Club next year if the hotel remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!

Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards 
ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- 
we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I 
was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he 
left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but 
COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of 
the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll 
leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. 
Thanks.

On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and 
Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which 
they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best 
ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great 
friend Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to 
buying us drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of 
Sirocco Design, a very talented jewelry designer, who served as our 
glamorous hostess *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A. 
Langheinrich auction.

As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home 
with the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. 
Allan Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked 
everyone by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the 
tie isn't so bad.

It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi, 
after many years of friendly correspondence. Monnig Gallery Director 
Teresa Moss and her husband Lane made their first visit to the show, 
and it was particularly nice to see them here, as Teresa, Dr. 
Ehlmann, and I have worked closely together on the Monnig Gallery 
website.

Another highlight for me was spending time with genius inventor Bill 
Mason. My g

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[DNAndrews]

Hey Geoff,
I think we have our new Jackass Award Winner for next year.  Very 
disrespectful "story" indeed.

S. Ray DeRusse wrote:
Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely 
a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an 
old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't 
necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not 
much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to 
it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of 
election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How 
does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work for 
a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you 
include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly 
to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary 
science?

We're going to make a special "Jackass of the Year" certificate for 
the person who stole the award, and we'll leave it out on the table 
next year, so be sure to steal that too. Thanks.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Did Gibeons Collide?

[J. Devon]

There was a really great full slice of Gibeon at Magic Mountain Meteorites' 
booth at the Pueblo in Tucson this year.  About 3/4 of the slice had a 
pattern that was oriented 90 degrees, but around the edges on one side, the 
pattern was oriented at 60 degrees.  Very cool!

Jeannie
- Original Message - 
From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 4:06 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Did Gibeons Collide?


Hi Ruben,
Has anyone else ever seen ( outside of a museum)
something like this?
yes.
In Buehlers book, p.120, is a 50cm Gibeon slice, composed from 9 taenite
crytals, all with different orientation of the Thompson (how politically
corret I am today) structure (i.e. Widmannstaetter Pattern). My old 
scanner
left me 2 weeks ago, perhaps Bernd may scan it for you.

Cheers Martin
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[S. Ray DeRusse]

Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his 
colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's 
viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct 
and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com

Notkin wrote:
Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then 
I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun   
: )

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our 
many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being 
pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy 
waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage 
from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper 
Club next year if the hotel remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!

Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards 
ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- 
we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I 
was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he 
left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but 
COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of 
the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll 
leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. 
Thanks.

On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and 
Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which 
they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best 
ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend 
Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us 
drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a 
very talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess 
*and* absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.

As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with 
the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. Allan 
Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked everyone 
by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the tie isn't 
so bad.

It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi, 
after many years of friendly correspondence. Monnig Gallery Director 
Teresa Moss and her husband Lane made their first visit to the show, 
and it was particularly nice to see them here, as Teresa, Dr. Ehlmann, 
and I have worked closely together on the Monnig Gallery website.

Another highlight for me was spending time with genius inventor Bill 
Mason. My girlfriend and I joined him for dinner just last night, and 
Bill gave me a personal class in working with his meteorite rust 
prevention kit.

[meteorite-list] Re: Bullets .. Millbillillie

[Bob King]

Walter and all,
A nice bit of humor! Since it's such an interesting word not only to spell
but also to say I just had to ask an Australian mineral dealer at Tucson
how to say Millbillillie. I wrote the word down on a piece of paper and
showed it to him. He pronounced it as Mill'-bill-lill-ee with the accent
on the first syllable. Then of course there's 'Esquel' which I learned is
pronounced Es-kel' with accent on the second syllable. By the time I was
leaving Tucson I thought a pronounciation guide for meteorites might not
be a bad idea ;-) Bob 


From:   "Walter 
Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:    
Subject:    Re: 
[meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my
Date sent:    Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:31:20 
-0500

> If anyone thinks Jim Strope doesn't have a
> sense of humor, take at look at some of
> his auctions.
> 
> Jim, repeat after me:
> Milleblllie...no...
> milmibill ... no...no...
> millie...vannillie...no...that's not it..
> milliebillie..no...
> 
> (ummm, milbialeee...no...
> 
> milbilal...)
> 
> hummm, maybe NWA numbers aren't such a bad thing
> after all...
> 
> -Walter
> -
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Tom Knudson]

"I just think we should be a little more careful in criticizing other 
peoples
ebay ads"

When I sent it to the list, it said meteorite in the title and 
description I can't help it if he fixed it afterwards!  If someone is 
going to call a geode a meteorite and list in in the meteorite category, I 
am going to call them on it!  Sorry, but I believe in being truthful, but 
that's just me!!!
Thanks, Tom
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To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:56 PM
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Hello Tom,
The seller says it is a geode, which it is.  He made a
mistake in not refining his category for this
particular specimen which is easy to do, but he has
not called it a meteorite.  I just think we should be
a little more careful in criticizing other peoples
ebay ads.  Even when they appear fradulent to a well
informed person, they may not be, as evidenced by a
recent post on another list.
You have had some interesting posts to the list that
are more meteorite related. Keep them coming!
My best,
Thomas

--- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Don't you know sarcasm when you here it???  I know
it is not a meteorite,
but the seller seems to think it is!
Thanks, Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:10 PM
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> That's just a normal geode Tom.
> I have dozens of them.
> Thomas
>
> --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>
>>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512516161&rd=1
>>
>> Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Thomas Webb]

Hello Tom,
The seller says it is a geode, which it is.  He made a
mistake in not refining his category for this
particular specimen which is easy to do, but he has
not called it a meteorite.  I just think we should be
a little more careful in criticizing other peoples
ebay ads.  Even when they appear fradulent to a well
informed person, they may not be, as evidenced by a
recent post on another list.
You have had some interesting posts to the list that
are more meteorite related. Keep them coming!
My best,
Thomas 




--- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Don't you know sarcasm when you here it???  I know
> it is not a meteorite, 
> but the seller seems to think it is!
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
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> To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite!
> : s
> 
> 
> > That's just a normal geode Tom.
> > I have dozens of them.
> > Thomas
> >
> > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512516161&rd=1
> >>
> >> Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

[Darren Garrison]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 23:31:20 -0500, "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>If anyone thinks Jim Strope doesn't have a
>sense of humor, take at look at some of
>his auctions.

How about his three thousand, one hundred and fourty gram "micromount"?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6512114996

He doesn't state if it comes with a gem jar.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

[Walter Branch]

If anyone thinks Jim Strope doesn't have a
sense of humor, take at look at some of
his auctions.

Jim, repeat after me:
Milleblllie...no...
milmibill ... no...no...
millie...vannillie...no...that's not it..
milliebillie..no...

(ummm, milbialeee...no...

milbilal...)

hummm, maybe NWA numbers aren't such a bad thing
after all...

-Walter
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my


>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512363256
>
> Now this is what I would call an oriented bullet!
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[Impactika]

In a message dated 2/15/2005 9:07:14 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:26 -0700, "Notkin"  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>personal expense. He has a long way  to go before breaking even just on 
>the printing costs, let alone the  many hundreds of hours he spent 
>writing and researching.

My  question is, why not make copies available on Ebay and Amazon?  They 
would  reach a larger
potential audience than this list.  
--
 
 
 It will be on my website as soon as I receive it!
And Kevin tells me it is on its way!
 
Of course, I'll be sure to let you all know.   :-)

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[meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

[Michael Farmer]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512363256
Now this is what I would call an oriented bullet! 
Mike Farmer

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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[Matt Morgan]

Great idea, and I for one would like to offer it on my site.  How about
it Kevin? And where is my copy??? I can't wait to read it!

Matt Morgan
http://www.mhmeteorites.com

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book


On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:26 -0700, "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>personal expense. He has a long way to go before breaking even just on 
>the printing costs, let alone the many hundreds of hours he spent 
>writing and researching.

My question is, why not make copies available on Ebay and Amazon?  They
would reach a larger potential audience than this list.  I don't know
exactly what steps are necessary to do so, but I know that I've found
privately published, small run books available at Amazon before.  Look
at one called "Trilobite Poems", for example.  Available at Amazon and
nowhere else (except for half.com).
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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[Matt Morgan]

Great idea, and I for one would like to offer it on my site.  How about
it Kevin? And where is my copy??? I can't wait to read it?

Matt Morgan
http://www.mhmeteorites.com

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On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:26 -0700, "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>personal expense. He has a long way to go before breaking even just on
>the printing costs, let alone the many hundreds of hours he spent 
>writing and researching.

My question is, why not make copies available on Ebay and Amazon?  They
would reach a larger potential audience than this list.  I don't know
exactly what steps are necessary to do so, but I know that I've found
privately published, small run books available at Amazon before.  Look
at one called "Trilobite Poems", for example.  Available at Amazon and
nowhere else (except for half.com).
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[Darren Garrison]

On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:51:26 -0700, "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>personal expense. He has a long way to go before breaking even just on 
>the printing costs, let alone the many hundreds of hours he spent 
>writing and researching.

My question is, why not make copies available on Ebay and Amazon?  They would 
reach a larger
potential audience than this list.  I don't know exactly what steps are 
necessary to do so, but I
know that I've found privately published, small run books available at Amazon 
before.  Look at one
called "Trilobite Poems", for example.  Available at Amazon and nowhere else 
(except for half.com).
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[meteorite-list] Concerned with No Reply from Bob Evans

[Patrick Folmar]

The fact is you’re a crook who won’t hesitate to rip off someone if you 
think they have no recourse to reveal your REAL character.
Dear Mr. Evans: I’m not exactly computer literate, but working with the 
public for several decades has taught me that in business & otherwise a 
person’s word is their bond. Unable in recent years to work secularly, 
because of severe health limitations, I usually raise my personal funds with 
assistance from friends & family (i.e.-yard sales etc). Last summer 2004 I 
purchased on EBay from you a gift for my husband’s 18th wedding anniversary. 
Of course, we were disappointed when his gift didn’t work but my husband 
assured me that purchasing from sellers with good feed back are honest & 
resolve any problems or would refund the money I raised. Every month I’d ask 
him if you’d make our purchase good since we sent the item back to you per 
your instructions. Mr. Evans, even if you’re unable to fix the item could 
you send it back so we’ll fix it at our cost and at least I’ll feel I got 
something for my money! I eagerly anticipate your response so I can inform 
other list members that you do attempt to make good your word!   Mrs pfolmar

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[meteorite-list] Re: Robert's Collection + Request

[Notkin]

Dear Listees:
Hello again. Last post for tonight . . .
I'd be very grateful if someone could help me out with two requests:
1) We need a good photo of Dr. Art Ehlmann receiving his Harvey Award 
at the party on Feb. 4. If anyone took a picture of him (our first 
recipient) during the party, please let me know.

2) If the person who purchased Bob Haag's Harrisonville, MO specimen 
during the Tucson show is a List member, would you kindly reply to me 
off-list? I have a question about that meteorite.

Thanks in advance,
Geoff N.
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[meteorite-list] Re: Kevin's Book

[Notkin]

Dear Listees:
It was nice to see so many of you praising Kevin Kichinka's new book 
"The Art of Collecting Meteorites," here on the List.

It was my privilege to work as designer for the book. Kevin has spent 
two years working on this project, and he financed it himself at great 
personal expense. He has a long way to go before breaking even just on 
the printing costs, let alone the many hundreds of hours he spent 
writing and researching.

I'd like to encourage you to support Kevin's fine endeavor because he's 
a nice guy and it's a damn good book  : )

Check it out:
http://www.theartofcollectingmeteorites.com
A lot of people gave generously of their time and energy to help make 
this book happen, and they include Joel Schiff, Richard Norton, Tom 
Phillips, Bob Haag and especially Darryl Pitt.

I hope you enjoy this book as much as I did.
Geoff N.
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[meteorite-list] NPA 10-16-1996 Meteor Enters, Orbits and Lands, Wasson

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: The Intelligencer Record
City: Doylestown, Pennsylvania
Date: Wednesday, October 16, 1996
Page: A-12
Meteor enters atmosphere, orbits and lands in California
LOS ANGELES - The eerie green flash that light up night skies 
throughout the West two weeks ago was a meteorite that skimmed off the 
Earth's atmosphere like a skipping stone, scientists said Monday.
The big chunk of space rock apparently entered the atmosphere over New 
Mexico and Texas, bounced back into space and orbited the Earth before 
re-entry in a blaze of light northeast of Los Angeles.
"It's two events, the same object," said meteorite specialist John 
Wasson of the University of California, Los Angeles. Scientists had never 
before observed a meteorite's re-entry, but theorized it was possible.
He and Mark Boslough, a physicist from Sandia National Laboratories in 
Albuquerque, N.M., announced the scenario after comparing observations 
reaching their electronic mailboxes from lay observers.
Under their scenario, the object first entered Earth's atmosphere about 
8 p.m. MDT Oct. 3 east of Las Cruces, N.M., headed east-northeast and slowed 
while it descended at a shallow angle toward the Texas Panhandle.
It came the closest to Earth's surface near Artesia, N.M., where it 
began breaking apart, spraying a brilliant shower of lesser meteorites 
extending at least as far as Lubbock, Texas.
The biggest fragment hurtled back into space at 18,450 mph - too slow 
to escape Earth's gravity - and briefly became a small moon making a single, 
100-minute orbit of Earth.
It re-entered the atmosphere above the Pacific Ocean and passed over 
the California coast near Point Conception. The mass, glowing with heat from 
re-entry, continued its journey just north of Bakersfield.

(end)
Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
Wichita, Kansas
http://www.meteoritearticles.com
http://www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com
http://www.imca.cc
http://stores.ebay.com/meteoritearticles
PDF copy of this article, and most I post (and about 1/2 of those on my 
website), is available upon e-mail request.

The NPA in the subject line, stands for Newspaper Article. The old list 
server allowed us a search feature the current does not, so I guess this is 
more for quick reference and shortening the subject line now.

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[meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

[Notkin]

Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson show. 
This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then I 
had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun   : 
)

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our 
many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being 
pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy 
waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage 
from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper 
Club next year if the hotel remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!

Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards ceremony. 
It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- we did not 
have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I was able to 
make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he left for 
Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but COME ON 
that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of the Year" 
certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll leave it out 
on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. Thanks.

On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and Jim 
Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which they 
very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best ever. 
Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend Geoff 
Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us drinks 
during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a very 
talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess *and* 
absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.

As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with 
the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. Allan 
Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked everyone 
by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the tie isn't 
so bad.

It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi, 
after many years of friendly correspondence. Monnig Gallery Director 
Teresa Moss and her husband Lane made their first visit to the show, 
and it was particularly nice to see them here, as Teresa, Dr. Ehlmann, 
and I have worked closely together on the Monnig Gallery website.

Another highlight for me was spending time with genius inventor Bill 
Mason. My girlfriend and I joined him for dinner just last night, and 
Bill gave me a personal class in working with his meteorite rust 
prevention kit. You shoulda seen what it did to my rusty old Brahin! 
This product is truly amazing, and if you haven't tried it, you should. 
I must also mention that Bill was the recipient of this year's Charles 
H. Sternberg Medal from the paleontology community and the good people 
at AAPS (www.aaps.net). This is an extremely high honor, very well 
deserved, and I'm sure Bill's many friends in the meteorite community 
will join me in congratulating him on this fine achievement.

Finally, we owe a big vote of thanks to Allan Lang, Bob Haag, and the 
other exhibitors at the Westward Look Resort who financed a special 
event which made it possible for many of us to listen to, and meet, 
famed astronaut Harrison "Jack" Schmitt on Sunday, Feb. 6. What a 
superb afternoon that was!

It was great to see so many of you out here, and I apologize to those 
friends whom I saw only briefly or not at all. You'll just have to come 
out for a longer visit next year. Oh yes . . . and Dr. Joel Schiff, I 
expect see you here for Tucson 2006. There is no Harvey Award for 
"Meteorite" magazine until you come out here to receive it in person 
(that's because we all want to see y

[meteorite-list] NPA 01-04-1988 Murchison Sheds Light on Origin, Wasson

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: Daily Herald
City: Chicago, Illinois
Date: Monday, January 4, 1988
Page: Neighbor Section, Page 1
Meteorite sheds light on origins of galaxy
Associated Press
NEW YORK - A meteorite has yielded extremely hard specks that roamed 
the cosmos before the sun and planets formed, and they may hold clues about 
distant stars and the solar system's birth, scientists say.
The grains of silicon carbide offer "a bit of a peck at the rest of the 
galaxy," said Edward Anders, professor of chemistry at the University of 
Chicago.
The material was apparently ejected by stars as gas, which then cooled 
to form the grains millions of years before the sun and planets appeared, he 
said in a recent telephone interview.
The specks were captured in the condensing cloud of gas and dust that 
formed the sun, planets and meteors.
Study of the specks may help in estimating how many stars contributed 
to the material that formed the solar system, Andecs said.  Scientists 
believe most of the material came from the explosion of one supernova, he 
said.
The specks also may tell about conditions in the nuclear furnaces of 
distant stars, he said.  While the stars that produced the grains are long 
extinct, the lessons of the grains would apply to similar stars now shining, 
he said.
Researchers said the particles probably came from stars in the "red 
giant" phase, one of the final stages in the life of a normal star. 
Preliminary study suggests they came from at least three stars or three 
regions of a single star, Anders said.
The specks range in size up to a micron, which is about one-hundredth 
the width of a human hair.
Discovery of the silicon carbide specks in a meteorite found in 
Australia was reported in a recent issue of the British journal Nature by 
Anders and colleagues at the University of Chicago, and Washington 
University and the Monsanto Research Center in St. Louis.
On Earth, silicon carbide is manufactured for use as an abrasive 
Scientists had detected silicon in outer space, but this is the first known 
delivery to Earth via meteorite, researchers said.
 Materials from different stars often mixed together in the condensing 
cloud that formed the solar system, making it harder to analyze the clues 
they hold about individual stars, said meteorite expert John T. Wasson.
But with the new study, "it appears here we have some of the most 
pristine material that has even been discovered," said Wasson.

(end)
I guess this is referring to Murchison...can someone confirm this.
Clear Skies,
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Re: [meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!

[Tom Knudson]

"Must be hard to walk after shooting yourself in the foot;-)"
Ya, but I was high bidder on that thing for a few minutes, oh what a feeling
to see your name in the high bidder spot! : )\
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Tom,
Thanks for the heads up on this one.  You will now have to go to $500.00 
or higher.  Must be hard to walk after shooting yourself in the foot;-)

Best,
John Gwilliam
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Right on Tom! you might have to go to $50.79. Thanks too for 
pointing out a cool piece that I won't be able to get nearer that the 
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[meteorite-list] NPA 07-18-1974 Wasson Offers Reward for Fireball Fragment

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: The News
City: Van Nuys, California
Date: Thursday. July 18, 1974
Page: 40-B
Reward Offered For Fragment of Meteorite
A UCLA professor is offering a $200 reward for recovery of the first 
meteorite fragment from a brilliant fireball which lit up the central valley 
south of Fresno around 10 p.m. on July 1.
Observers reported that the fireball broke up in passage, probably 
scattering meteoritic stones over a wide area, before its bright path was 
extinguished about 12 to 14 miles south of Avenal (a town 60 southwest of 
Fresno) and west of the Kettleman Hills.
Fragments of the meteorite may have come down in parts of Kings, Kern, 
Monterey, or San Luis Obispo counties.
The most likely fall area, according to Prof. John T. Wasson, is 
bounded approximately by U.S. Highway 5 on the east, Devils Den on the 
south, Cholame on the west, and Reef City on the north.
State highway 33 crosses the fall area, and Dr. Wasson believes that 
the smaller fragments, which traveled a shorter distance after the fireball 
breakup, will most likely be found near or east of the highway, and larger 
stones to the west.
Dr. Wasson urges would-be searchers to look for irregularly shaped 
black stones with the following characteristics:
A glass crust, darker than the inside of the stone.
Generally slight but sometimes strong magnetism, which can be checked with a 
small hand magnet.
Greater weight than normal rocks of the same size and no large pores or 
cavities on the rock surface or interior.
"Residents of the area might start by looking around their own yards 
for any black stones that weren't there before July 1," the UCLA chemistry 
professor suggests.
To be eligible for the reward, specimens believed to be meteorites 
should be sent to Prof. John T. Wasson, Institute of Geophysics, UCLA, Los 
Angeles, Cal. 90024. If the sample weighs more than a pound, finders are 
advised to chip off and mail a small piece weighing one-half to 2 ounces.
Dr. Wasson is also interested in purchasing any other meteorites held 
by private collectors, but he is particularly eager for a specimen from the 
July 1 event, because it is one of the rare falls sighted by observers.
His eagerness is mainly scientific, since meteorites, as 
billions-year-old "messengers from outer space can give scientists 
invaluable clues about the formation of the solar system.

(end)
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[meteorite-list] NPA 09-28-1967 UCLA gets Needles Meteorite, John Wasson

[MARK BOSTICK]

Paper: The News
City: Van Nuys, California
Date: Thursday. September 28, 1967
Page: 15-A
Rare Meteorite Added to UCLA Collection
A large and extremely rare meteorite arrived this week at UCLA for 
thorough scientific analysis and display in the University collection.
The "Needles Meteorite," named for the California town near where it 
was first found, weighs exactly 100 pounds.
It is a beautiful example of a class of meteorites called fine 
octahedrites, and a member of a rare subclass of which there are only two 
other known examples in the world, according to Professor John T. Wasson of 
the UCLA chemistry department.
The triangular-shaped meteorite was discovered by a visiting Oklahoma 
couple, Mr. and Mrs. Carroll Cantrell, in the Turtle Mountains near Needles 
in 1962 and taken back to their home state. Following the couple's death, 
the meteorite was sold by the survivors to Dr. Wasson.
Scientists are particularly fascinated by meteorites as "messengers 
from the solar system that survive the flight through the atmosphere to land 
on earth. Most meteorites are probably broken-off fragments of asteroids, 
the tiny planets that lie between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter.
Under painstaking chemical analysis, said Dr. Wasson, meteorites can 
reveal much about the origin and early composition of the solar system and 
the evolution of planets.
The young chemistry professor will analyze fine slabs sawed off the 
Needles Meteorite in his laboratory, and send other samples to museums 
throughout the world.
   The remaining 90-pound chunk will become the major showpiece of the F.C. 
Leonard Collection of Meteorites at UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and 
Planetary Physics.
The collection, put together by the late chairman of the UCLA astronomy 
department, is the largest in California with 200 meteorites. The Needles 
Meteorite will be the second largest and scientifically the most valuable 
item in the collection.
Dr. Wasson hopes to expand the collection in the future through further 
purchases or exchanges.

(end)
Clear Skies,
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Re: [meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!

[JKGwilliam]

Tom,
Thanks for the heads up on this one.  You will now have to go to $500.00 or 
higher.  Must be hard to walk after shooting yourself in the foot;-)

Best,
John Gwilliam
At 08:10 PM 2/15/2005, Gerald Flaherty wrote:
Right on Tom! you might have to go to $50.79. Thanks too for 
pointing out a cool piece that I won't be able to get nearer that the internet
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Re: [meteorite-list] Did Gibeons Collide?

[MARK BOSTICK]

Hello Ruben and list,
I have a Gibeon endcut in my photo gallery that shows deformed "Thomson" 
lines.

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colgibeon.html
I think it's safe to say that Gibeon's did collide or at the least were part 
of a major collision at one time or another.

Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
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Re: [meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!

[Gerald Flaherty]

Right on Tom! you might have to go to $50.79. Thanks too for 
pointing out a cool piece that I won't be able to get nearer that the 
internet
Jerry
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Re: [meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!

[tett]

Tom,
You had better give up.  I will bet it goes for much more than $50.   My 
guess is closer to $500 or even $1000.

Cool auction.  Thanks for pointing it out.
Cheers,
tett
Owen Sound, Ontario
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Subject: [meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!


I never buy meteorites for more than $20 or less, that is hard to come up 
with for me! But I bid more for this one, I will get the money some how, 
even if I have to  I will never win it anyways. : )  It will go for 
more than the $50, but it feels good to bid on such a nice one. Maybe, ebay 
will break down and I will some how win!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512694552&rd=1
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[meteorite-list] You had better look at this one!

[Tom Knudson]

I never buy meteorites for more than $20 or less, that is hard to come up 
with for me! But I bid more for this one, I will get the money some how, 
even if I have to  I will never win it anyways. : )  It will go for 
more than the $50, but it feels good to bid on such a nice one. Maybe, ebay 
will break down and I will some how win!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512694552&rd=1
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[meteorite-list] Acceptance of Apology (forwarded)

[Impactika]

Hello,

LeighAnne is not a member of the List so she has asked me to  forward this to 
all of you, and in particular to John  Gwilliam.
--
--
 
Mr. John Gwilliam,
Thanks so much for the wonderful apology. I am  extremely grateful for it and 
your acceptance and public announcement of the  fact that you are a grumpy 
old man. I am only joking with you. I did in fact  enjoy meeting you as well as 
meeting everyone at the Birthday Party. It was so  fun! I think that (even 
though somewhat stressful) it is really good to have a  healthy debate from 
time 
to time. So thanks for the opportunity. I am still  expecting that package in 
the mail from you, John! 
Thanks again for the kind  words, I really wanted to reward you for it, so 
hopefully you will repeat it in  the future (ha ha)  It was very nice meeting 
you and I am sure that I will  see you again! p.s. anyone looking for small 
campos, I am delraygoddess on e-bay  :>). 
-Leigh Anne DelRay  
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Thanks.

Anne M. Black
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Re: [meteorite-list] chondrules?

[Gerald Flaherty]

List,
I'd like to thank all who responded to my question. All the responses 
promoted a better understanding of the "nature" of chondrules which remain 
another marvelous mystery to ponder without dwelling upon.
The book, "The Origin Of Chondrules And Chondrites" by Derek Sears which I 
wasn't familiar with, though steeply priced is definitely an item that has 
been added to my wish list. But, having read the first 40 pages of Kevin 
Kichinka's excellent book, "The Art of Collecting Meteorites" has lessened 
the urgency and softened the edges of knowledge blending them into a less 
driven aesthetic appreciation for the mystery that lies behind it all.
I just checked the price again, What a faker!!!
Jerry Flaherty

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[meteorite-list] Name Change for Bob Evans?

[Patrick Folmar]

Bob Evans earlier wrote:
Remember when I was accused earlier this year of never sending a $1000 
payment to Stefan Ralew?
I didn't appreciate the attack on my character.

From Pat:
Well, Bob, that rings pretty hollow to me. Considering that you knowingly 
ripped me off on an ebay deal after I allowed the feedback period to expire 
while I “thought” we were working out a problem. Once I couldn’t report your 
shenanigans—no reply. I should have known something was amiss when you would 
not provide me with a street address or phone number. Is Bob Evans your real 
name or is that an alias also?

The fact is you’re a crook who won’t hesitate to rip off someone if you 
think they have no recourse to reveal your REAL character. As far as I’m 
concerned your name should be changed to Bob “The Rip-Off” Evans.

Buyer beware on this guy. If anyone knows Bob “The Rip-Off” Evans’ address 
or phone number, please contact me off list. Your confidentiality will be 
preserved.

Pat
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[meteorite-list] ad - thin sections for sale

[j . divelbiss]

Hello all,

I have some covered thin sections for sale from Jeff Rowell.

NWA 1054 (ACAP) $70   don't see many sections of these
NWA 1930 (LL3)  $40  (2 of these)  very nice for chondrules
NWA 1648 (DIO)  $60   an unusual Diogenite...very nice
TATAHOUINE (DIO)$55   strangebig crystals
SPADE (H6 ANNEALED) $45   totally melted into small bits...looks like a 
primitive achondrite 

Add $4 for shipping.

paypal to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Let me know if you are interested.

Thanx,

John

 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Space Passport

[Gerald Flaherty]

Good idea Dave. I'd like oneof those. Jerry
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 Greetings. I was just wondering if there are any of
Bob Haag`s vintage 'Space Passports' to be had
anywhere. Would be a cool addition to my meteorite
collection! :)
Dave 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Allende

[Tom Knudson]

"Can anyone point me to one?"
Yes, that way!  >
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Hi,
I am looking for a nice sample of Allende. I would prefer a 500+
gram example. Can anyone point me to one?
Thanks,
Peter Scherff

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[meteorite-list] Allende

[peterscherff]

Hi,

I am looking for a nice sample of Allende. I would prefer a 500+
gram example. Can anyone point me to one?

Thanks,

Peter Scherff



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Re: [meteorite-list] chondrules?

[Darren Garrison]

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 00:09:51 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Darren, Jerry and others,
>
>The Google search that Darren did gives you lots of nice pics from Jeff 
>Rowell's site, and others. Jeff is a good friend of mine who has been selling 
>very nice covered sections for a few years now. He is not a list member, but 
>he is definetly someone who is into meteorite sections. I have many from him 
>and highly recommend him to others. He uses a very good section maker and has 
>had good instincts over the years in selecting materials/pieces to study.
>
>He is good with a camera, and has a pretty good idea on how to analyze these 
>things (sections), not unlike other capable novices like Bernd. I think Jeff 
>has some geology background too.
>
>His website is below.  His ebay handle is:   mrowell
>
> http://www3.sympatico.ca/jeff.rowell/Default.htm

Even if you don't want to /can't afford buying thin sections to study, you can 
examine chondrules in
"hand" specimens pretty well with simple magnification.  I use a 20x triplet 
loupe similar to this
one 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1215&item=6511994470&rd=1
 and just
recently bought one of these (though I got mine on Ebay for half that price)
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&product%5Fid=63-1133. 
 I can't see
individual crystals like you can with a thin section through a polarizing 
filter, but I can get a
pretty good look at more obvious features-- fracturing, barred olivine, 
"pac-man" chondrules, and
the like. 
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[meteorite-list] Did Gibeons Collide?

[Ruben Garcia]

Hi All,
I can't wait to prepare this one correctly ( sand,
polish and then re-etch)instead of the crude job I
hurried through today. Also I hope this unique pattern
goes all the way through. I'll have some really cool
full slices !!
Ruben
 



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[meteorite-list] Re: Did Gibeons Collide?

[Martin Altmann]

Hi Ruben,

> Has anyone else ever seen ( outside of a museum)
> something like this?

yes.

In Buehlers book, p.120, is a 50cm Gibeon slice, composed from 9 taenite
crytals, all with different orientation of the Thompson (how politically
corret I am today) structure (i.e. Widmannstaetter Pattern). My old scanner
left me 2 weeks ago, perhaps Bernd may scan it for you.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Did Gibeons Collide?

[John Birdsell]

Hi RubenI think that it may reflect the progression of cooling from 
different regions which resulted in different crystaline patterns 
intersecting. I'm sure someone on the list will have a good explanation. 
We had one with three distinct patterns which was pretty cool too! Check 
it out:

http://www.arizonaskiesmeteorites.com/AZ_Skies_Links/Etched_Meteorites/Etched_Gibeon/3130gEtched_Gibeon/index.html
Cheers
-John & Dawn
Arizona Skies Meteorites

Ruben Garcia wrote:
Hi All,
Can someone explain this...
Is it as simple as two Gibeons colliding in space? Or
is there some other explanation? 

This is the 1st cut on a larger Gibeon meteorite. It
is common practice for me to etch the 1st piece
immediately after it is cut. I do this without any
sanding or polishing. Its done for the purpose of
checking the etch ( I like to make sure it is a rich
brilliant etch before slicing and dicing the entire
meteorite.) When this beautiful etch began to appear I
started to see two completely different widmanstatten
patterns appearing. when the etch was complete after
only a few minutes this is what I saw. I've cut and
etched hundreds of iron meteorites and etched
thousands of slices and never before seen such a
distinct separation in two patterns on the same
meteorite.
Has anyone else ever seen ( outside of a museum)
something like this?

http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib1.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib2.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib3.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib4.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib5.JPG
Thanks, Ruben
		
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[meteorite-list] Did Gibeons Collide?

[Ruben Garcia]

Hi All,
Can someone explain this...
Is it as simple as two Gibeons colliding in space? Or
is there some other explanation? 

This is the 1st cut on a larger Gibeon meteorite. It
is common practice for me to etch the 1st piece
immediately after it is cut. I do this without any
sanding or polishing. Its done for the purpose of
checking the etch ( I like to make sure it is a rich
brilliant etch before slicing and dicing the entire
meteorite.) When this beautiful etch began to appear I
started to see two completely different widmanstatten
patterns appearing. when the etch was complete after
only a few minutes this is what I saw. I've cut and
etched hundreds of iron meteorites and etched
thousands of slices and never before seen such a
distinct separation in two patterns on the same
meteorite.
Has anyone else ever seen ( outside of a museum)
something like this?



http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib1.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib2.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib3.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib4.JPG
http://www.geocities.com/meteoritemall/gib5.JPG

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Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta

[JKGwilliam]

Stan,
Below is a link to a picture of a small slice of Vaca Muerta that has the 
same type of inclusion.  It came from an individual I bought 5 or 6 years ago.


Best,
John Gwilliam
At 01:12 PM 2/15/2005, stan . wrote:
I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in tucson...
I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in vaca muerta, but this 
looks like adiogenite like inclusions - if you play with the color balance 
settings on the pic you can make the thing look almost exactly like tatahouine.

anyone ever see anything similar?
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] odds and ends,2-14-2005

[j . divelbiss]

Dave,

Does Heidi have any idea how Steve really feels about BH ? Him being so HOT and 
all. Maybe she can tell(vibes and all) when Steve visits every year at Tucson, 
and she probably has the confidence that she can keep them apart...or, maybe it 
should be "beware big guy, a woman scorn can be big TROUBLE".

>From one not so hot dude,

JD 

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> 
> 
> Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: 
> 
> >Good afternoon list.I see I created a bob haag firestorm.Well what do you 
> >expect?BH is one hot dude! 
> > 
> That's exactly what Heidi said! ;-) 
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[meteorite-list] Ad- A few Auctions Ending - Nice Stuff!

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List Members,

I have a couple of nice items up for auction ending in a few hours.

Several nice meteorites can be found at this link:
http://members.ebay.com/ws2/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=raremeteorites

Huge oriented meteorite that was already sold but the buyer had some
financial issues and decided he really could not afford the specimen at this
time.  This world class specimen is now available for a second time for
those who missed out the first time:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6510861505

A sizable and affordable specimen of the recently announced NEA001 lunar:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6510862098

Thank you for looking and if you are bidding, good luck.


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Re: [meteorite-list] chondrules?

[j . divelbiss]

Darren, Jerry and others,

The Google search that Darren did gives you lots of nice pics from Jeff 
Rowell's site, and others. Jeff is a good friend of mine who has been selling 
very nice covered sections for a few years now. He is not a list member, but he 
is definetly someone who is into meteorite sections. I have many from him and 
highly recommend him to others. He uses a very good section maker and has had 
good instincts over the years in selecting materials/pieces to study.

He is good with a camera, and has a pretty good idea on how to analyze these 
things (sections), not unlike other capable novices like Bernd. I think Jeff 
has some geology background too.

His website is below.  His ebay handle is:   mrowell

 http://www3.sympatico.ca/jeff.rowell/Default.htm

And Jerry, the section of NWA 1774 (R3.8-6) you bought from me was from Jeff 
also.


Enjoy thin sections!

John

  

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> On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 20:53:30 -0500, "Gerald Flaherty" wrote: 
> 
> >> I've seen neither a macro nor micro view of a cross-section of a 
> >> chondrule so I can't speak to the issue of concentric layering. 
> 
> Follow this link: 
> 
> 
> http://images.google.com/images?q=chondrule%20thin%20sections&num=100&hl=en&lr=&;
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> c2coff=1&safe=off&sa=N&tab=wi 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Photos up

[Michael L Blood]

Mr. CIMALA,
Below is the post I sent you in private, yesterday. - Michael
-
Here are the results:
MC-78 SOLD = $1,000-
MC-79 SOLD = 130-
MC80 SOLD = 170-
MC-81 NO SALE
MC-82 NO SALE 
I will be sending out all payments tomorrow. What is
your address?
If you want to sell the Zaklodzie & Brahin on ebay, it will likely
go to someone in the US and I can ship it directly to them and save
you some money.
RSVP
Thanks, Michael

on 2/14/05 3:16 PM, Meteoryt.net at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Hello Mr Blood
> Can u only tell me if You sell on Your auctions my specimen of
> Zaklodzie E-ungr 53g, Lowicz MES 23g ??
> Becouse I want send them to eBay (5cent sale tooday) but if they was sold
> then I should not do that.
> 
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Michael L Blood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 8:50 AM
> Subject: RSVP re confimation
> 
> 
> I have the following pieces (with jpgs) listed (please confirm - RSVP):
> MC-78
> Lowicz (Mesosiderite)
> Fell March 11, 1935 Lowicz, Poland TKW:+110kg
> 22.9g endpiece with fresh crust   27x22x16mm
> reserve 1,000-
> 
> MC-79
> Kilabo (LL6)  breccia S3/W0
> FDLL: 21 July21, 2002, 19:30 Kilabo, Nigeria
> 42.8g half specimen with crust  44x31x25 mm
> reserve 300-
> 
> MC-80
> Bjurböle  (L/LL4)  S1/W0
> FELL March 12, 1899, 22:30 Borga, Nyland, Finland
> 21.03g  33x24x18 mm
> reserve 200-
> 
> MC-81
> Zaklodzie  (Enstatite)  Ungr. Primitive Achondrite S1/W1
> 1998 Zamosc, Poland TKW:8.68kg
> 53.5g  50x47x8 mm
> Reserve: 3,500-
> 
> 

 
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on 2/15/05 2:37 PM, Meteoryt.net at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>> Hi All,
>> McCartneyTaylor was kind enough to send me a bunch
>> of photos he took at the auction. You can view them at:
>> 
>> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionOLCat.html
> 
> Hmm
> Maybe I'm little nervous, but I will be more happy to know at least if I
> sell anything on Your auctions or not. Its more than one week and still no
> info.
> 
> Impatient person
> 
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Photos up

[Meteoryt.net]

> Hi All,
> McCartneyTaylor was kind enough to send me a bunch
> of photos he took at the auction. You can view them at:
>
> http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionOLCat.html

Hmm
Maybe I'm little nervous, but I will be more happy to know at least if I
sell anything on Your auctions or not. Its more than one week and still no
info.

Impatient person

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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[meteorite-list] Kingman Arizona

[Peanut ..]

Hello All,

If anyone lives in or around Kingman, Arizona, please email me off-list, I 
have questions to ask!

Cj Lebel
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[meteorite-list] AD: Balneario el Condor/Meteorites for Sale

[Peanut ..]

Hello all,

I don't know who has yet to see the new meteorite Balneario el Condor 
offered by Matt Morgan, but you collectors that like a great looking 
meteorites, especially those of you who prefer large partslices. I highly 
recommend picking up a piece of this gorgeous L6.

Slices can be found at the URL below!

http://www.mhmeteorites.com/main_collection.htm

Since I am talking about meteorites for sale, I may as well add that I have 
15 new auctions running on the bay for a variety of great micros. Just visit 
the URL below.

http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsofindtypeZ15QQuseridZriffraff14QQfclZ3QQsspagenameZhQ3AhQ3AadvsearchQ3AUSQQsofocusZbsQQcatrefZC5QQfromZR7QQpfidZ0QQsinceZ30QQfsopZ1QQfsooZ1QQfrppZ50

Thanks all,

Cj Lebel
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Re: [meteorite-list] Auction Photos up

[Michael L Blood]

Hi All,
McCartneyTaylor was kind enough to send me a bunch
of photos he took at the auction. You can view them at:

http://www.michaelbloodmeteorites.com/AuctionOLCat.html

Click each to enlarge.
Best wishes, Michael




 
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Tom Knudson]

Don't you know sarcasm when you here it???  I know it is not a meteorite, 
but the seller seems to think it is!
Thanks, Tom
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:10 PM
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That's just a normal geode Tom.
I have dozens of them.
Thomas
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Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta

[Matt Morgan]

I think it is an enstatite crystal.  The cleavage looks like it.
Matt
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From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:39 PM
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> the max dimension of the inclusion is 18mm... it doesnt look like an
> olivine. the photo as posted reproduces quite well the real apearance of
the
> slice - on my monitor at least...
>
>
> >From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "stan ."
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta
> >Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:25:39 +0100
> >
> >Don't know, how good the picture is. Colours ect. How large is the
> >inclusion?
> >Perhaps an olivine crystal?
> >Rodrigo had some Vacas, who displayed some olivines like in a pallasite.
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:12 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta
> >
> >
> > > I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in tucson...
> > > I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in vaca muerta, but this
> >looks
> > > like adiogenite like inclusions - if you play with the color balance
> > > settings on the pic you can make the thing look almost exactly like
> > > tatahouine.
> > >
> > > anyone ever see anything similar?
> > > http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg
> > >
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[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - February 15, 2005

[Ron Baalke]

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html

SPIRIT UPDATE: Spirit Braving the Dust on Mars - sol 388 - 393, 
February 15, 2005

Spirit's solar panels are collecting a fine layer of dust, which has
reduced energy levels, but Spirit keeps on keeping on.

Sol-by-sol summaries:

Spirit completed an approximately 13-meter (43-foot) drive toward the
"Cumberland Ridge" on sol 388. Spirit spent sol 389 performing the usual
set of remote-sensing observations.

On sol 390, Spirit drove closer to "Larry's Lookout," about 13 meters
(43 feet) backwards uphill. Spirit stopped when the rover reached the
mobility time-of-day limit, which is a time of day that engineers
program into the software to ensure the rover won't deplete all of its
power at the end of a day's drive. Then, Spirit performed a set of
remote sensing observations on sol 391.

Sol 392 was planned as a 23-meter (75-foot) drive toward Larry's
Lookout, plus some post-drive imaging in the drive direction with the
navigation camera and panoramic camera. The usual remote-sensing science
was planned for various times throughout the sol. However, Spirit halted
after completing the first segment of the drive, a distance of only
about 12 meters (39 feet). The halt may have been due to rocks nearby
considered too dangerous by the rover's autonomous navigation system.
This left Spirit with more driving to do on the next drive opportunity.
Spirit also has been taking energy from the batteries recently (due to
increased dust in the atmosphere, which has covered the solar panels
with a thin layer of dust, blocking some of the light that provides
energy via the solar panels).

On sol 393, the rover team planned an easy remote-sensing day in order
to try to put back some energy into the batteries.

The plan for sol 394 was to perform a careful drive of about 6.4 meters
(21 feet) to park in a spot where the rover team can carry out an upload
of new flight software. The spot was chosen for an orientation
facilitating the high gain antenna to point to Earth for good
communication during upload of the flight software. Sol 394 ended on
Feb. 11.

As of sol 393, Spirit's total odometry is 4,108 meters (2.55 miles).


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[meteorite-list] Weird inclusion in Vaca Muerta

[bernd . pauli]

> I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in Tucson.
> I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in Vaca
> Muerta, but this looks like a diogenite like inclusion

> http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg

When you look at the cleavages within the "clast", you will notice
that there are several cleavages intersecting each other at about
90°. So my guess would be that it is a large pyroxene crystal.

Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta

[stan .]

the max dimension of the inclusion is 18mm... it doesnt look like an 
olivine. the photo as posted reproduces quite well the real apearance of the 
slice - on my monitor at least...


From: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "stan ." 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 21:25:39 +0100

Don't know, how good the picture is. Colours ect. How large is the
inclusion?
Perhaps an olivine crystal?
Rodrigo had some Vacas, who displayed some olivines like in a pallasite.
- Original Message -
From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta
> I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in tucson...
> I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in vaca muerta, but this
looks
> like adiogenite like inclusions - if you play with the color balance
> settings on the pic you can make the thing look almost exactly like
> tatahouine.
>
> anyone ever see anything similar?
> http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg
>
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[meteorite-list] what the heck is up with dho 007?

[stan .]

what the heck is going on with dho 007?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512405947&rd=1
this guy says researchers are speculating the material is from mercury - I 
did a quick google and found that Yamaguchi et al DID report that it's an 
anaomolous eucrite and may infact be a mesosiderite!

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1377.pdf
so what would the apropriate name for this material be? if it isnt related 
to other HED meteorites it isnt a eucrite anymore, right? and it certainly 
wouldnt be a stony iron messosiderite, unless that term now applies to rocks 
with .1% stone - so what would we call this stuff, just an anaomolous 
eucrite?

Anyone have any more links / papers about this material?
TIA
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Re: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta

[Martin Altmann]

Don't know, how good the picture is. Colours ect. How large is the
inclusion?
Perhaps an olivine crystal?
Rodrigo had some Vacas, who displayed some olivines like in a pallasite.


- Original Message - 
From: "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta


> I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in tucson...
> I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in vaca muerta, but this
looks
> like adiogenite like inclusions - if you play with the color balance
> settings on the pic you can make the thing look almost exactly like
> tatahouine.
>
> anyone ever see anything similar?
> http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg
>
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[meteorite-list] wierd inclusion in vaca muerta

[stan .]

I picked this little guy up form Bruce Wegman in tucson...
I have seen plenty of eucrite like inclusions in vaca muerta, but this looks 
like adiogenite like inclusions - if you play with the color balance 
settings on the pic you can make the thing look almost exactly like 
tatahouine.

anyone ever see anything similar?
http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2259/vaca9cz.jpg
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[David Freeman]

Dear Thomas,
Our Tom seems to be desperately handicapped since he has no local mentor 
to explain basic rock shapes and common rockhound collectables.

Any rock clubs/mentors in the Kingman area?
The specimen is from Oregon's thunder egg beds, someone's ranch 
(Richardsons ?) I believe, it has changed hands, and is now a pay to dig 
site. A ca-zillion tons of these old time specimens are around.

D. Freeman
Thomas Webb wrote:
That's just a normal geode Tom.
I have dozens of them.
Thomas
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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Thomas Webb]

That's just a normal geode Tom.
I have dozens of them.
Thomas

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[meteorite-list] Ted Bunch Phone #

[McCartney Taylor]

Does anyone have Dr. Ted Bunch's phone #?

I'm having trouble tracking down Dr. Bunch at N. Az U., he 
apparently is not officially on staff.

Please contact me off list.

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[meteorite-list] NWA 1052 - 1054 2 new acapulcoites

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

Hello

In the Lunar & Planetary Science 2005 is exit the
abstract of my new 2 acapulcoites, for who have buy
this meteorites the text its here

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2005/pdf/1808.pdf

I have for sale other few slices of this material

Matteo


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Re: [meteorite-list] odds and ends,2-14-2005

[DNAndrews]

Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote:
Good afternoon list.I see I created a bob haag firestorm.Well what do you
expect?BH is one hot dude!
That's exactly what Heidi said!   ;-)
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[meteorite-list] Space Passport

[Dave Schultz]

  Greetings. I was just wondering if there are any of
Bob Haag`s vintage 'Space Passports' to be had
anywhere. Would be a cool addition to my meteorite
collection! :)
 Dave 



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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Gunlock Hype (???)

[DNAndrews]

My reasons for wanting it is this:
1) There aren't too many meteorites from Utah
2) It's a Haag collection piece
3) Kewl name
I know, pretty silly on my part, but those are my reasons.
Best wishes,
Dave
RYAN PAWELSKI wrote:
Just wondering what all the hype about Gunlock is for? It's limited availability to collectors, or because it has a cool name? However, Gunlock still doesn't beat Billy Goat Donga or Cockburn., or even Milly Milly or Millbillillie. 

Ryan
 

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[meteorite-list] NASA's Twin Mars Rovers Continue Exploration

[Ron Baalke]

Dolores Beasley/Gretchen Cook-Anderson
Headquarters, Washington  February 15, 2005
(Phone: 202/358-1753/0836)

Guy Webster
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.
(Phone: 818/354-6278)

John Bluck
Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, Calif.
(Phone: 650/604-5026/9000)

RELEASE: 05-044

NASA'S TWIN MARS ROVERS CONTINUE EXPLORATION 

NASA's Spirit rover found a new class of water-affected rock, while 
its twin, Opportunity, finished inspecting its own heat shield and 
set a new martian driving record. The rovers successfully completed 
their three-month primary missions in April 2004 and are working on 
extended exploration missions.

"This is probably the most interesting and important rock Spirit has 
examined," said Dr. Steve Squyres of Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y., 
principal investigator for the rovers. The rock, dubbed "Peace," is an 
exposure of bedrock in the Columbia Hills. The rock is in the Gusev 
Crater, where Spirit landed 13 months ago. "This may be what the bones 
of this mountain are really made of; it gives us even more compelling 
evidence for water playing a major role for altering the rocks here," 
Squyres added.

Peace contains more sulfate salt than any other rock Spirit has examined. 
Dr. Ralf Gellert, of Max-Planck-Institut fur Chemie, Mainz, Germany, said, 
"Usually when we have seen high levels of sulfur in rocks at Gusev, it 
has been at the very surface. The unusual thing about this rock is that 
deep inside; the sulfur is still very high. The sulfur enrichment at the 
surface is correlated with the amount of magnesium, which points to 
magnesium sulfate." 

Observations by Spirit show the rock contains significant 
amounts of the minerals olivine, pyroxene and magnetite, all of which 
are common in some types of volcanic rock. The rock's texture appears 
to be sand-size grains coated with a material loosely binding the rock 
together. Spirit's rock abrasion tool dug about 1 centimeter (0.4 inch) 
deep in two hours.

"It looks as if you took volcanic rocks that were ground into little 
grains, and then formed a layered rock with them cemented 
together by a substantial quantity of magnesium-sulfate salt," Squyres 
said. "Where did the salt come from? We have two working hypotheses we 
want to check by examining more rocks. It could come from liquid water 
with magnesium sulfate salt dissolved in it, percolating through the 
rock, then evaporating and leaving the salt behind. Or it could come 
from weathering by dilute sulfuric acid reacting with magnesium-rich 
minerals that were already in the rock. Either case involves water," 
he said.

Opportunity used its microscopic imager last week to examine a cross 
section of the heat shield that protected the spacecraft as it 
slammed into Mars' atmosphere. This is the first time experts have 
been able to examine a heat shield after it entered another 
planet's atmosphere. Engineers expect the findings to aid design 
for future missions.

"We've identified each broken piece of the heat shield. We know 
there's a lot of data there, but we still need to analyze it," said 
Ethiraj Venkatapathy of NASA's Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, 
Calif. 

Christine Szalai, a spacecraft engineer at NASA's Jet Propulsion 
Laboratory (JPL), Pasadena, Calif., said, "We are examining the 
images to determine the depth of charring in the heat shield 
material. In the initial look, we didn't see any surprises. We 
will be working for the next few months to analyze the performance of 
the heat shield," Szalai said.

Since leaving the heat shield, Opportunity has been traveling south 
to explore new sites. The rover set a single-day martian driving 
record, covering 154.65 meters (507.4 feet) on Jan. 28. 
Two days later, it drove even farther, 156.55 meters (513.6 feet). The 
first 90 meters (295 feet) of each drive was performed in blind-drive 
mode, following a route planners created from stereo images from the 
rover and maps created from orbital imagery. The rest was autonomous 
driving, with the rover choosing its own route to avoid any hazards 
it perceived in stereo images taken along the way.

"The terrain we're crossing is so flat we can see a long way ahead," 
said JPL rover planner Frank Hartman, who teamed with Jeff 
Biesiadecki to plot the drive. "Opportunity has paused for some 
trenching, but in a few days we'll put the pedal to the metal 
again."

For Images and additional information about the rovers on the 
Internet, visit:

http://www.nasa.gov/vision/universe/solarsystem/mer_main.html

For information about NASA and agency programs on the Internet, 
visit:

http://www.nasa.gov

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Re: [meteorite-list] Mikes SA.... WOW!!!!!

[Tom Knudson]

Mike said;
"I'm not sure I see much difference in that one and mine."
Well I do, Mikes has nicer thumbprints!!!
Thanks, Tom
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- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Tom 
Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "met list" 

Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mikes SA WOW!


I'm not sure I see much difference in that one and mine.
A hole is a hole is a hole...
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "met list" 

Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mikes SA WOW!


take a look to this
http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/SikhoteAlin2.JPG
this is a hole
Matteo
--- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512336890&rd=1
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Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
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MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Mikes SA.... WOW!!!!!

[Michael Farmer]

I'm not sure I see much difference in that one and mine.
A hole is a hole is a hole...
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "M come Meteorite Meteorites" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "met list" 

Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 11:58 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Mikes SA WOW!


take a look to this
http://it.geocities.com/meteoriti20002/SikhoteAlin2.JPG
this is a hole
Matteo
--- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512336890&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
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Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it
Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info
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MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com
EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/

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[meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

[Tom Knudson]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512516161&rd=1
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 15, 2005

[SPACEROCKSINC]

http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Feb15.html  

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[meteorite-list] Kevin's Book

[Peter Marmet]

Hello list,


just a quick note that Kevin's wonderful book has just reached
Switzerland.

My copy is # 71.

Do not expect me to be online for the next few hours...

I'M READING:-)!!!


Peter Marmet

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[meteorite-list] Bullet shaped Achondrite on eBay

[Herbert Raab]

Dear fellow collectors,

those who missed Marcin's bullet shaped NWA chondrite on eBay
might want to consider to take a look at my bullet shaped Camel
Donga Eucrite. It is a excellent specimen with rich, glossy
black fusion crust, flow lines and a pool of melt on the back:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6511556734

Hope you like the images, and a big "Thanks!" to anyone who
considers bidding on this little gem.

  Herbert Raab




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