[meteorite-list] Virgin Mary meteorite/anyone good at reading spectra?

2005-02-16 Thread Darren Garrison
So that "Virgin Mary" meteorite is back on Ebay, and this time the seller has 
including a picture of
a card with what appears to be the results of some sort of spectroscopic 
analysis of the piece.
Anyone know what kind of 'wrong it is from the card, just for curiosity's sake? 
 Its showing up
strong for Oxygen and Iron, but I don't see any nickel on the card.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6155546569
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[meteorite-list] Re: 2 The Point-Need Zagami

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Alright folks, back to meteorites.

To the point, short and sweet: I have been looking for quite some time now for 
a part-slice of Zagami ~2g or under, preferably with a hint of fusion crust. 
Please let know if anyone can point me in the right direction. Thank you!

Ryan
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[meteorite-list] Weekend plans

2005-02-16 Thread Matson, Robert
Hi Mark and List,

> ... To get back on track, does anybody have any meteorite hunting
> trips planned this weekend??

If the weather lets me, I hope to make a day-trip into the Mojave
at some point over the 3-day weekend.  If I believed the weather
reports from yesterday, I'd have written off the weekend.  But now
the local news "meteorologists" (if you can call them that) have
backed off on their pineapple express 3-days-of-rain storm warnings
for southern California, so a trip may be back in the works.  --Rob
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[meteorite-list] First meteorites

2005-02-16 Thread PrintsTodd
Hello List,
I'm just a little fish here on the meteorite food chain, but I do have a  
story.
Last month I spent the weekend at the Franconia Strewn Field and found my  
first two meteorites - 4 gm and 51 gm. They were small but what a rush!
I did have a chance to stop at the Tucson show ever so briefly enroute to  
Sierra Vista. I had to have a look at Mike Farmer's lunar. Very  impressive.
Hopefully next year I can spend much more time at the show.
Adios.
TODD
Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: [meteorite-list] Offensive posts

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Bowling
Tom wrote:
risk losing any more. : )  Sorry to all I offended.

No offense here Tom.  I've seen a few  intersting posts ignored more 
that once, but I think many times they're answered off list.  Or maybe 
they think others will answer and don't bother to answer themselves - so 
there are no replies.  I think it's human nature.  People tend to speak 
up when they think somebody's done something wrong.  I can't complain as 
I tend to speak up in those cases and pile onto trivial posts.  :o) 
Heck, the other day I mentioned a sale and forgot to put "AD" in the 
subject line...  Oops - sorry (or when I top post...)  And sometimes 
when I'm behind on the list, I respond to a post w/o checking the other 
replies and post redundant messages.  I'm trying to train myself... 
We're all human and I appreciate all the memebers here - except S. Ray 
DeRusse & Co.

Clear skies,
Mark aka the suck-up... ;-) 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Martin, wonderful story, Tokyo is an overwhelming and strange place, but 
great Sushi! I am not a vegetarian, so I love the raw fish.
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "K. Ohtsuka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:20 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16


Thank you Mr. Ohtsuka, for the link to the NIPR online publication. It 
will make especially interesting reading to me.

Anyone interested in knowing more about the National Institute of Polar 
Research and the Japanese Antarctic meteorite collection, here is a link 
to a Meteorite Times article in which I wrote about visit to the NIPR many 
years ago.

http://www.meteorite.com/links/2003/February/ad.htm
Happy reading.
Martin H.

- Original Message -
From: "K. Ohtsuka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:59 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16
Hello List,
Now, you can download free papers of Antarctic Meteorite Research
No.16,featured the Yamato nakhlites:
http://yamato.nipr.ac.jp/AMRC/amr16/amr16.html
Sincerely,
Katsuhito OHTSUKA
Tokyo, JAPAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

2005-02-16 Thread DNAndrews
Please delete now for the faint of heart or who like a lot of hot 
airI wasn't even going to post this, but after considerable thought, 
I felt I had to.  Sorry in advance.

No apology necessary here Johnny G!  I also get tired of the 
Big-Windy-Steve braggingsnew cameranew  ultimate PCnew 
meteoritecash onlyno credit cards...Haag not for saleI 
brought you Park Forest...my main-mass Dhofars rule and your NWA's 
suck...what a bunch of blow-hard-self-ego-pumping-banter.  What if we 
all posted when we purchased a new PC, a new digital camera,  a new DVD 
recorder, a new DV camcorder, a new meteorite...I'm out of townmy 
cell phone number is...BobHaag is HOT!...blahblah.   It would be the 
Ego-Techie List...not a meteorite list.  I'm not talking about ONE post 
here.  He's been spewing the new PC for several posts.  Remember a while 
back, it was his NEW "State-of-the-Art" digital camera which wasn't so 
"State of the Art", so he got another one.  How many posts about the two 
of them did we have to delete or read?  Why? To look like a BIG DOG!  
Certainly something that I am not, and don't pretend to be.  On and on 
and on.  Who gives a rat's rear?  Why do you have to have a new PC to 
post pictures?  It certainly hasn't curtailed your ability to pummel us 
with emails about all your "glorious acquisitions" that you will 
certainly never part with.   Why do you post stuff like that?  What if 
everyone that attended Tucson posted what they bought at the show?  What 
if I posted everytime I (or someone I know) found a "bunny-turd" 
Holbrook, Franconia, or Gold Basin meteorite?  We used to post our joint 
Holbrook and other hunts as a story, but it became "bandwidth dribble" 
so we stopped.  Who cares?  Absolutely no one!

C'mon Steve!  You're a nice guy and everything, but we don't need to 
know your everyday activities and purchases.  Give us a break please.  
Sure I can use the "delete" key, but I have to admit I find it kind of 
entertaining in a "curious-perverted" way what's going to come out of 
your mouth next.  Absolutely amazing to say the least.. 

I too apologiize for my tirade and if I deserve flaming, so be it. Maybe 
I'll get back to meteorites too and post a pic of a Holbrook I found 
with flow lines or something. (Not to be a big blow hard braggart 
though)  Other than that, if you can stick to meteorite related posts, 
and no bragging Steve, I'll go back to lurking.  It's a promise. Maybe 
you can all nominate me for the Jackass award next year instead of Sugar 
Ray D. and the Soggy-Bottom Boys.

Sorry all in advance again, 
Dave

JKGwilliam wrote:
Meteorite List,
First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit 
of Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, 
get angry with me if you want or send me emails condemning my 
behavior, but I've had enough and I have to vent a little here.

steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell 
catalog you ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" 
family( we have five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be 
experiencing.  The Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and 
can't be called "state of the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  
Dell describes the 3000 as the "Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second 
from the bottom of the line of eleven (11) desktop machines. The 
person you ordered your computer from must have given you some 
incorrect information.

Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 
with dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's 
two steps up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state 
of the art."

Best,
John Gwilliam

Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 
years ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be 
translated to "BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years 
old, but for a fifty year old guy to say that is 
welldisgusting and very embarrassing.

Faux pas!
Best,
John Gwilliam


At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
LOL
<><><><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
ebay id: mhmeteorites
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that 
I   just
> got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>
>  steve arnold.chicago
>
> Steve 

[meteorite-list] Offensive posts

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
Hello List,
 I posted a question about a strange (to me) inclusion to the list a few 
days back and got one reply. I post a meteor wrong on ebay to the list and 
get countless negative replies. People want this list to stay meteorite 
related, but won't respond to meteorite related posts, I think something is 
wrong with that!  The point is, if I can not use the list to learn , but 
only a place to get chewed out, then it is not worth it.
Apparently my posts are just to offensive to some, judging from the hate 
mail and loss of friends, so I will be a lurker for now on, I don't want to 
risk losing any more. : )  Sorry to all I offended.

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
http://fstop.proboards24.com/ 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer Field Museum trip!

2005-02-16 Thread Bob Evans
Come on Dave ,
How can you compete with the museums 8 kilo Murchison, the size of a 
football

Bob E
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Mark Bowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer Field Museum trip!


 Went to the Field Museum in Chicago last week and
thier display collection was somewhat disappointing
and really needs an overhawl! :(  A few of the dealers
rooms in Tucson,I hate to say, were much more
interesting!
  Dave

I agree!  To get back on track, does anybody have
any meteorite hunting
trips planned this weekend??  Or maybe a trip to
your local meteorite
museum?
Mark
Dell 8400 1GB ram & 160GB hard drive ;-)
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Randy Mils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer ENOUGH
ALREADY

>  I hate to get drawn in to stupid arguments on
this
> List, but geez people, give it a rest. Now you all
are
> bantering over stupid computers!!! Let`s get back
to
> meteorites or expedition tales or something! My
delete
> key is getting a work out again!!! Besides that...
> have a great evening! :)
>  Dave
>
>
>
>
> -
>
> I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of
> complaining about meaningless posts by Proud Tom.
>
> Randy
>
>
>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>>
>>Yeah, and obviously you did also.
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>>
>>
>>Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh
> Ryan.Randy
>>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To:
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new
> computer
>>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600
> (GMT-06:00)
>>>
>>>"Here at our house, my eleven year old
> daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a
Pioneer
> DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>>up from you machine and it isn't even
> close to being "state of the art."
>>>
>>>Wow, bragging and blathering vs.
bragging
> and blathering.
>>>
>>>And I suppose she bought that computer
> with her weekly allowence?
>>>
>>>Ryan
>>>
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>>>To: Matt Morgan
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>> Meteorite List
> 
>>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new
> computer
>>>
>>>Meteorite List,
>>>First of all, I apologize to the List
for
> the following:
>>>
>>>I don't know about the rest of you,
but
> I've finally reached my limit of
>>>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop
> bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>>>with me if you want or send me emails
> condemning my behavior, but I've had
>>>enough and I have to vent a little
here.
>>>
>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI
> don't know what Dell catalog you
>>>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams
are
> a "Dell only" family( we have
>>>five Dells), I can clear up any
confusion
> you might be experiencing.  The
>>>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level
> machine and can't be called "state of
>>>the art" by any stretch of the
> imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>>>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second
> from the bottom of the line of
>>>eleven (11) desktop machines. The
person
> you ordered your computer from
>>>must have given you some incorrect
> information.
>>>
>>>Here at our house, my eleven year old
> daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a
Pioneer
> DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>>up from you machine and it isn't even
> close to being "state of the art."
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>
>>>John Gwilliam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife)
> remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>>>ago and she said that the way she
would
> describe him could be translated to
>>>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were
still
> thirty years old, but for a fifty
>>>year old guy to say that is
> welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>>>
>>>Faux pas!
>>>
>>>Best,
>>>John Gwilliam
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan
wrote:
>>> >What does this post have to do with
> meteorites? I've gotten a few new
>>> >computers over the last two years as
> well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
>>> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
>>> >LOL
>>> ><><><><><><><>
>>> >Matt Morgan
>>> >Mile High Meteorites
>>> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
>>> >PO Box 151293
>>> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>>> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
>>> >- Original Message 

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer Field Museum trip!

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Schultz
  Went to the Field Museum in Chicago last week and
thier display collection was somewhat disappointing
and really needs an overhawl! :(  A few of the dealers
rooms in Tucson,I hate to say, were much more
interesting!
   Dave  


> I agree!  To get back on track, does anybody have
> any meteorite hunting 
> trips planned this weekend??  Or maybe a trip to
> your local meteorite 
> museum?
> 
> Mark
> Dell 8400 1GB ram & 160GB hard drive ;-)
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Randy Mils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:04 PM
> Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer ENOUGH
> ALREADY
> 
> 
> >  I hate to get drawn in to stupid arguments on
> this
> > List, but geez people, give it a rest. Now you all
> are
> > bantering over stupid computers!!! Let`s get back
> to
> > meteorites or expedition tales or something! My
> delete
> > key is getting a work out again!!! Besides that...
> > have a great evening! :)
> >  Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -
> >
> > I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of
> > complaining about meaningless posts by Proud Tom.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
> >>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
> >>
> >>Yeah, and obviously you did also.
> >>
> >>Ryan
> >>
> >>-Original Message-
> >>From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
> >>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
> >>
> >> class=RTE>
> >>Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh
> > Ryan.Randy
> >>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>To:
> meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
> >>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new
> > computer
> >>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600
> > (GMT-06:00)
> >>>
> >>>"Here at our house, my eleven year old
> > daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
> >>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a
> Pioneer
> > DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
> >>>up from you machine and it isn't even
> > close to being "state of the art."
> >>>
> >>>Wow, bragging and blathering vs.
> bragging
> > and blathering.
> >>>
> >>>And I suppose she bought that computer
> > with her weekly allowence?
> >>>
> >>>Ryan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
> >>>To: Matt Morgan
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >>> Meteorite List
> > 
> >>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new
> > computer
> >>>
> >>>Meteorite List,
> >>>First of all, I apologize to the List
> for
> > the following:
> >>>
> >>>I don't know about the rest of you,
> but
> > I've finally reached my limit of
> >>>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop
> > bragging and blathering. So, get angry
> >>>with me if you want or send me emails
> > condemning my behavior, but I've had
> >>>enough and I have to vent a little
> here.
> >>>
>
>>>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI
> > don't know what Dell catalog you
> >>>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams
> are
> > a "Dell only" family( we have
> >>>five Dells), I can clear up any
> confusion
> > you might be experiencing.  The
> >>>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level
> > machine and can't be called "state of
> >>>the art" by any stretch of the
> > imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
> >>>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second
> > from the bottom of the line of
> >>>eleven (11) desktop machines. The
> person
> > you ordered your computer from
> >>>must have given you some incorrect
> > information.
> >>>
> >>>Here at our house, my eleven year old
> > daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
> >>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a
> Pioneer
> > DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
> >>>up from you machine and it isn't even
> > close to being "state of the art."
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>
> >>>John Gwilliam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife)
> > remembers meeting BH about 10 years
> >>>ago and she said that the way she
> would
> > describe him could be translated to
> >>>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were
> still
> > thirty years old, but for a fifty
> >>>year old guy to say that is
> > welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
> >>>
> >>>Faux pas!
> >>>
> >>>Best,
> >>>John Gwilliam
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan
> wrote:
> >>> >What does this post have to do with
> > meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> >>> >computers over the last two years as
> > well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> >>> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >>> >LOL
> >>> ><><><><><><><>
> >>> >Matt Morgan
> >>> >Mile High Meteorites
> >>> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >>> >PO Box 151293
> >>> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >

Re: [meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16

2005-02-16 Thread martinh
Thank you Mr. Ohtsuka, for the link to the NIPR online publication. It will 
make especially interesting reading to me.

Anyone interested in knowing more about the National Institute of Polar 
Research and the Japanese Antarctic meteorite collection, here is a link to a 
Meteorite Times article in which I wrote about visit to the NIPR many years ago.

http://www.meteorite.com/links/2003/February/ad.htm

Happy reading.

Martin H.




- Original Message -
From: "K. Ohtsuka" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:59 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16

> Hello List,
> 
> Now, you can download free papers of Antarctic Meteorite Research 
> No.16,featured the Yamato nakhlites: 
> 
> http://yamato.nipr.ac.jp/AMRC/amr16/amr16.html
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Katsuhito OHTSUKA
> Tokyo, JAPAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Bowling
I agree!  To get back on track, does anybody have any meteorite hunting 
trips planned this weekend??  Or maybe a trip to your local meteorite 
museum?

Mark
Dell 8400 1GB ram & 160GB hard drive ;-)
- Original Message - 
From: "Dave Schultz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Randy Mils" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:04 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer ENOUGH ALREADY


 I hate to get drawn in to stupid arguments on this
List, but geez people, give it a rest. Now you all are
bantering over stupid computers!!! Let`s get back to
meteorites or expedition tales or something! My delete
key is getting a work out again!!! Besides that...
have a great evening! :)
 Dave

-
I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of
complaining about meaningless posts by Proud Tom.
Randy

From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
Yeah, and obviously you did also.
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh
Ryan.Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new
computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600
(GMT-06:00)
>
>"Here at our house, my eleven year old
daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer
DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even
close to being "state of the art."
>
>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging
and blathering.
>
>And I suppose she bought that computer
with her weekly allowence?
>
>Ryan
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>To: Matt Morgan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Meteorite List

>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new
computer
>
>Meteorite List,
>First of all, I apologize to the List for
the following:
>
>I don't know about the rest of you, but
I've finally reached my limit of
>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop
bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>with me if you want or send me emails
condemning my behavior, but I've had
>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>
>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI
don't know what Dell catalog you
>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are
a "Dell only" family( we have
>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion
you might be experiencing.  The
>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level
machine and can't be called "state of
>the art" by any stretch of the
imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second
from the bottom of the line of
>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person
you ordered your computer from
>must have given you some incorrect
information.
>
>Here at our house, my eleven year old
daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer
DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even
close to being "state of the art."
>
>Best,
>
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife)
remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>ago and she said that the way she would
describe him could be translated to
>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still
thirty years old, but for a fifty
>year old guy to say that is
welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>
>Faux pas!
>
>Best,
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> >What does this post have to do with
meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> >computers over the last two years as
well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >LOL
> ><><><><><><><>
> >Matt Morgan
> >Mile High Meteorites
> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >PO Box 151293
> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To:

> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07
PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> >
> >
> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just
want to let everyone know that I   just
> > > got my new computer and will be
putting my tucson pictures up on my
> > > website for viewing.I'll let you
know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the
art computer.
> > >
> > >
   steve arnold.chicago
> > >
> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > website url
http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > >
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > __
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need
with new enhanced search.
>

[meteorite-list] Re: new computer ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Schultz
  I hate to get drawn in to stupid arguments on this
List, but geez people, give it a rest. Now you all are
bantering over stupid computers!!! Let`s get back to
meteorites or expedition tales or something! My delete
key is getting a work out again!!! Besides that...
have a great evening! :)
  Dave
 



-

I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of
complaining about meaningless posts by Proud Tom.

Randy


>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>Yeah, and obviously you did also.
>
>Ryan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>
>
>Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh
Ryan.Randy
>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new
computer
>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600
(GMT-06:00)
>>
>>"Here at our house, my eleven year old
daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer
DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even
close to being "state of the art."
>>
>>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging
and blathering.
>>
>>And I suppose she bought that computer
with her weekly allowence?
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>>To: Matt Morgan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Meteorite List

>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new
computer
>>
>>Meteorite List,
>>First of all, I apologize to the List for
the following:
>>
>>I don't know about the rest of you, but
I've finally reached my limit of
>>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop
bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>>with me if you want or send me emails
condemning my behavior, but I've had
>>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>>
>>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI
don't know what Dell catalog you
>>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are
a "Dell only" family( we have
>>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion
you might be experiencing.  The
>>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level
machine and can't be called "state of
>>the art" by any stretch of the
imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second
from the bottom of the line of
>>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person
you ordered your computer from
>>must have given you some incorrect
information.
>>
>>Here at our house, my eleven year old
daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer
DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even
close to being "state of the art."
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife)
remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>>ago and she said that the way she would
describe him could be translated to
>>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still
thirty years old, but for a fifty
>>year old guy to say that is
welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>>
>>Faux pas!
>>
>>Best,
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
>> >What does this post have to do with
meteorites? I've gotten a few new
>> >computers over the last two years as
well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
>> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
>> >LOL
>> ><><><><><><><>
>> >Matt Morgan
>> >Mile High Meteorites
>> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
>> >PO Box 151293
>> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
>> >- Original Message -
>> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To:

>> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07
PM
>> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just
want to let everyone know that I   just
>> > > got my new computer and will be
putting my tucson pictures up on my
>> > > website for viewing.I'll let you
know when I am done.I got a DELL
>> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the
art computer.
>> > >
>> > > 
steve arnold.chicago
>> > >
>> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
>> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
>> > > Illinois Meteorites
>> > > website url
http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
>> > >
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > Do you Yahoo!?
>> > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need
with new enhanced search.
>> > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>> > >
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>> > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> > >
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>

Re: [meteorite-list] Great News

2005-02-16 Thread Walter Branch
Hi Geoff and List,

Yes, this is very good news.

Completely unexpected on my part but I
for one am very pleased to hear this.

It is one thing to be so delusional to think that
the scientific community has nothing better to
do with their time than to dream up 
conspiracy theories, but is it another thing
to practice defamation against a member of
said community.  And it is another thing 
altogether to allow it to happen when one
has the power to stop it.

As for Dr. Ehlmann, I have nothing but 
kind words.  Back when I was making
micromounts, Art sold me some material
from TCU which was perfect for making
micromounts.  I recently aquired an ex-Monnig
half-stone of Dimmit and Art assisted me just
just this past weekend with some questions
I had regarding the piece.

Besides, since we all agree that what they have are
not even meteorites, that alone is worth
questioning their continued participation.
I mean, this is a list about meteorites, is it not?

Thank you very much, Art.

-Walter

-
- Original Message - 
From: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 10:34 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Great News


> Dear Listees:
> 
> I have just heard from our List Moderator Art Jones, and I am delighted 
> to be able to inform you that S. Ray DeRusse has been permanently 
> banned from the Meteorite List.
> 
> Thank you to those of you who followed my request and lodged a 
> complaint with Art. Thanks to Art for providing this great forum, and 
> for having the resolve to step up and remove troublemakers.
> 
> I'm determined to do my part to make the Meteorite List a better place. 
> To start, here's a photo of Art Ehlmann receiving his award. Many 
> thanks to Jim Strope for the photo:
> 
> http://www.notkin.net/meteorites/ehlmann.htm
> 
> 
> My best to all, and now let's get back to real meteorites.
> 
> Geoff N.
> 
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
LMAO As amusing and entertaining this is, I'm sure that others don't 
appreciate it. So I'm done with this topic. Ridiculous and lame, but a topic 
nonetheless.  Good night everyone.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:52 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer


I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of complaining about 
meaningless posts by Proud Tom.Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>Yeah, and obviously you did also.
>
>Ryan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>
>
>Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh 
Ryan.Randy
>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>>
>>"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a 
Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, 
etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being 
"state of the art."
>>
>>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and 
blathering.
>>
>>And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly 
allowence?
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>>To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Meteorite List 
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>>
>>Meteorite List,
>>First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>>
>>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally 
reached my limit of
>>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and 
blathering. So, get angry
>>with me if you want or send me emails condemning my 
behavior, but I've had
>>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>>
>>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know 
what Dell catalog you
>>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" 
family( we have
>>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be 
experiencing.  The
>>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't 
be called "state of
>>the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell 
describes the 3000 as the
>>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom 
of the line of
>>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered 
your computer from
>>must have given you some incorrect information.
>>
>>Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a 
Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, 
etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being 
"state of the art."
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting 
BH about 10 years
>>ago and she said that the way she would describe him 
could be translated to
>>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years 
old, but for a fifty
>>year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and 
very embarrassing.
>>
>>Faux pas!
>>
>>Best,
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
>> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've 
gotten a few new
>> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone 
else?? New cameras,
>> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
>> >LOL
>> ><><><><><><><>
>> >Matt Morgan
>> >Mile High Meteorites
>> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
>> >PO Box 151293
>> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
>> >- Original Message -
>> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: 
>> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
>> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let 
everyone know that I   just
>> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson 
pictures up on my
>> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am 
done.I got a DELL
>> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>> > >
>> > >  steve 
arnold.chicago
>> > >
>> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
>> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
>> > > Illinois Meteorites
>> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
>> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > Do you Yahoo!?
>> > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced 
search.
>> > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>> > > __
>> > > Meteorite-list mailing list
>> > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>> > > 
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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Randy Mils

I wasn't the one who advised using it instead of complaining about meaningless posts by Proud Tom.Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:50:02 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>Yeah, and obviously you did also.
>
>Ryan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>
>
>Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh Ryan.Randy
>>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>>
>>"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>>
>>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
>>
>>And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
>>
>>Ryan
>>
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>>To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>> Meteorite List 
>>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>>
>>Meteorite List,
>>First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>>
>>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of
>>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>>with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had
>>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>>
>>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog you
>>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have
>>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The
>>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state of
>>the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
>>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from
>>must have given you some incorrect information.
>>
>>Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>>
>>Best,
>>
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>>ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated to
>>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty
>>year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>>
>>Faux pas!
>>
>>Best,
>>John Gwilliam
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
>> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
>> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
>> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
>> >LOL
>> ><><><><><><><>
>> >Matt Morgan
>> >Mile High Meteorites
>> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
>> >PO Box 151293
>> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
>> >- Original Message -
>> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >To: 
>> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
>> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
>> >
>> >
>> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
>> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
>> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
>> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>> > >
>> > >  steve arnold.chicago
>> > >
>> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
>> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
>> > > Illinois Meteorites
>> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
>> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > __
>> > > Do you Yahoo!?
>> > > Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search.
>> > > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Yeah, and obviously you did also.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Randy Mils <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:46 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer


Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh Ryan.Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 
4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's 
two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the 
art."
>
>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
>
>And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
>
>Ryan
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Meteorite List 
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>
>Meteorite List,
>First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>
>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my 
limit of
>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, 
get angry
>with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but 
I've had
>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>
>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell 
catalog you
>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we 
have
>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be 
experiencing.  The
>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called 
"state of
>the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 
3000 as the
>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line 
of
>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer 
from
>must have given you some incorrect information.
>
>Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 
with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's 
two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the 
art."
>
>Best,
>
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 
years
>ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be 
translated to
>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a 
fifty
>year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very 
embarrassing.
>
>Faux pas!
>
>Best,
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few 
new
> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New 
cameras,
> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >LOL
> ><><><><><><><>
> >Matt Morgan
> >Mile High Meteorites
> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >PO Box 151293
> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> >
> >
> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know 
that I   just
> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up 
on my
> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a 
DELL
> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > >
> > >  steve 
arnold.chicago
> > >
> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Randy Mils

Guess you forgot where your delete key was, eh Ryan.Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 21:10:00 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
>
>And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
>
>Ryan
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Meteorite List 
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>
>Meteorite List,
>First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>
>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of
>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had
>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>
>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog you
>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have
>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The
>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state of
>the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from
>must have given you some incorrect information.
>
>Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
>Best,
>
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated to
>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty
>year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>
>Faux pas!
>
>Best,
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >LOL
> ><><><><><><><>
> >Matt Morgan
> >Mile High Meteorites
> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >PO Box 151293
> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> >
> >
> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > >
> > >  steve arnold.chicago
> > >
> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[meteorite-list] Great News

2005-02-16 Thread Notkin
Dear Listees:
I have just heard from our List Moderator Art Jones, and I am delighted 
to be able to inform you that S. Ray DeRusse has been permanently 
banned from the Meteorite List.

Thank you to those of you who followed my request and lodged a 
complaint with Art. Thanks to Art for providing this great forum, and 
for having the resolve to step up and remove troublemakers.

I'm determined to do my part to make the Meteorite List a better place. 
To start, here's a photo of Art Ehlmann receiving his award. Many 
thanks to Jim Strope for the photo:

http://www.notkin.net/meteorites/ehlmann.htm
My best to all, and now let's get back to real meteorites.
Geoff N.
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
Yes, but it went over my head by choice. There's a big difference. 

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:18 PM
To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

Actually Ryan, I was trying to make a point which obviously went over your 
head.  I bought the computer for my daughter, but she could have bought it 
with her allowance if she wanted.

John

At 08:10 PM 2/16/2005, you wrote:
>"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
>Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
>
>And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
>
>Ryan
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
>To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Meteorite List 
>Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>
>Meteorite List,
>First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>
>I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of
>Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry
>with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had
>enough and I have to vent a little here.
>
>steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog you
>ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have
>five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The
>Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state of
>the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the
>"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
>eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from
>must have given you some incorrect information.
>
>Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
>dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps
>up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
>Best,
>
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years
>ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated to
>"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty
>year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>
>Faux pas!
>
>Best,
>John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>
>
>At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >LOL
> ><><><><><><><>
> >Matt Morgan
> >Mile High Meteorites
> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >PO Box 151293
> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> >
> >
> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > >
> > >  steve arnold.chicago
> > >
> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
I've played the drums for years. It's not a drum roll; that would come before 
the punch line. It's more of a baa- doom crash  ;  )

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Kirk Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 9:22 PM
To: Meteorite List 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

You know...after a joke.the drum roll.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kirk Jenks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer


> What is this rimshot shit???
> --- Kirk Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > RIMSHOT!!!
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "RYAN PAWELSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:10 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
> >
> >
> > > "Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700
> > with
> > > dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
> > steps
> > > up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the
> > art."
> > >
> > > Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
> > >
> > > And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
> > > To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Meteorite List 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
> > >
> > > Meteorite List,
> > > First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
> > >
> > > I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit
> > of
> > > Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get
> > angry
> > > with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've
> > had
> > > enough and I have to vent a little here.
> > >
> > > steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell
> > catalog
> > you
> > > ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we
> > have
> > > five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.
> > The
> > > Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called
> > "state
> > of
> > > the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000
> > as
> > the
> > > "Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
> > > eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer
> > from
> > > must have given you some incorrect information.
> > >
> > > Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700
> > with
> > > dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
> > steps
> > > up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the
> > art."
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > John Gwilliam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10
> > years
> > > ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be
> > translated
> > to
> > > "BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a
> > fifty
> > > year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very
> > embarrassing.
> > >
> > > Faux pas!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John Gwilliam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> > > >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> > > >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> > > >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> > > >LOL
> > > ><><><><><><><>
> > > >Matt Morgan
> > > >Mile High Meteorites
> > > >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> > > >PO Box 151293
> > > >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> > > >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: 
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> > > >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I
> > just
> > > > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on
> > my
> > > > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > > > >
> > > > >  steve arnold.chicago
> > > > >
> > > > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > > > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Kirk Jenks
You know...after a joke.the drum roll.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Kirk Jenks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:19 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer


> What is this rimshot shit???
> --- Kirk Jenks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > RIMSHOT!!!
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "RYAN PAWELSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:10 PM
> > Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer
> >
> >
> > > "Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700
> > with
> > > dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
> > steps
> > > up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the
> > art."
> > >
> > > Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
> > >
> > > And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
> > >
> > > Ryan
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
> > > To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> > > Meteorite List 
> > > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
> > >
> > > Meteorite List,
> > > First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
> > >
> > > I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit
> > of
> > > Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get
> > angry
> > > with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've
> > had
> > > enough and I have to vent a little here.
> > >
> > > steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell
> > catalog
> > you
> > > ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we
> > have
> > > five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.
> > The
> > > Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called
> > "state
> > of
> > > the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000
> > as
> > the
> > > "Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
> > > eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer
> > from
> > > must have given you some incorrect information.
> > >
> > > Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700
> > with
> > > dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
> > steps
> > > up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the
> > art."
> > >
> > > Best,
> > >
> > > John Gwilliam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10
> > years
> > > ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be
> > translated
> > to
> > > "BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a
> > fifty
> > > year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very
> > embarrassing.
> > >
> > > Faux pas!
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > John Gwilliam
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> > > >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> > > >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> > > >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> > > >LOL
> > > ><><><><><><><>
> > > >Matt Morgan
> > > >Mile High Meteorites
> > > >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> > > >PO Box 151293
> > > >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> > > >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> > > >- Original Message -
> > > >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: 
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> > > >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I
> > just
> > > > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on
> > my
> > > > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > > > >
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Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

2005-02-16 Thread David Freeman
Dear Johnny G,
I have a four year old dinosaur named 4300,and it is a large leap above 
steves state of the art doo-dad.
My back up lap top:  a secret!
Dave F.
Maybe steve could brag up something meteorite related..

JKGwilliam wrote:
Meteorite List,
First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit 
of Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, 
get angry with me if you want or send me emails condemning my 
behavior, but I've had enough and I have to vent a little here.

steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell 
catalog you ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" 
family( we have five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be 
experiencing.  The Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and 
can't be called "state of the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  
Dell describes the 3000 as the "Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second 
from the bottom of the line of eleven (11) desktop machines. The 
person you ordered your computer from must have given you some 
incorrect information.

Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 
with dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's 
two steps up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state 
of the art."

Best,
John Gwilliam

Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 
years ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be 
translated to "BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years 
old, but for a fifty year old guy to say that is 
welldisgusting and very embarrassing.

Faux pas!
Best,
John Gwilliam


At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
LOL
<><><><><><><>
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- Original Message -
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that 
I   just
> got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>
>  steve arnold.chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Kirk Jenks
RIMSHOT!!!
- Original Message - 
From: "RYAN PAWELSKI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:10 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: new computer


> "Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
> dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
steps
> up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
> Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.
>
> And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?
>
> Ryan
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
> To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> Meteorite List 
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer
>
> Meteorite List,
> First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
>
> I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of
> Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry
> with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had
> enough and I have to vent a little here.
>
> steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog
you
> ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have
> five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The
> Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state
of
> the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as
the
> "Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of
> eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from
> must have given you some incorrect information.
>
> Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with
> dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two
steps
> up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."
>
> Best,
>
> John Gwilliam
>
>
>
> Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years
> ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated
to
> "BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty
> year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.
>
> Faux pas!
>
> Best,
> John Gwilliam
>
>
>
>
>
> At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
> >What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
> >computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
> >camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
> >LOL
> ><><><><><><><>
> >Matt Morgan
> >Mile High Meteorites
> >http://www.mhmeteorites.com
> >PO Box 151293
> >Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
> >ebay id: mhmeteorites
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: 
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
> >Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> >
> >
> > > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I
just
> > > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> > > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> > >
> > >  steve arnold.chicago
> > >
> > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > > Illinois Meteorites
> > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> > >
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
"Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with 
dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps 
up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."

Wow, bragging and blathering vs. bragging and blathering.

And I suppose she bought that computer with her weekly allowence?

Ryan


-Original Message-
From: JKGwilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 8:59 PM
To: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
Meteorite List 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

Meteorite List,
First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:

I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of 
Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry 
with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had 
enough and I have to vent a little here.

steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog you 
ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have 
five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The 
Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state of 
the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the 
"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of 
eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from 
must have given you some incorrect information.

Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with 
dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps 
up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."

Best,

John Gwilliam



Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years 
ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated to 
"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty 
year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.

Faux pas!

Best,
John Gwilliam





At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
>What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
>computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
>camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
>LOL
><><><><><><><>
>Matt Morgan
>Mile High Meteorites
>http://www.mhmeteorites.com
>PO Box 151293
>Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
>ebay id: mhmeteorites
>- Original Message -
>From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
>
>
> > Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> > got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> > website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> > DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
> >
> >  steve arnold.chicago
> >
> > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> > I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> > Illinois Meteorites
> > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> > http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
> >
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[meteorite-list] Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16

2005-02-16 Thread K. Ohtsuka
Hello List,

Now, you can download free papers of Antarctic Meteorite Research No.16,
featured the Yamato nakhlites: 

http://yamato.nipr.ac.jp/AMRC/amr16/amr16.html

Sincerely,

Katsuhito OHTSUKA
Tokyo, JAPAN
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Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

2005-02-16 Thread JKGwilliam
Meteorite List,
First of all, I apologize to the List for the following:
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've finally reached my limit of 
Steve Arnold's (Big Windy) non-stop bragging and blathering. So, get angry 
with me if you want or send me emails condemning my behavior, but I've had 
enough and I have to vent a little here.

steve,steve,steve,steve,steveI don't know what Dell catalog you 
ordered from, but since the Gwilliams are a "Dell only" family( we have 
five Dells), I can clear up any confusion you might be experiencing.  The 
Dell Dimension 3000 is an entry level machine and can't be called "state of 
the art" by any stretch of the imagination.  Dell describes the 3000 as the 
"Ultimate Value Desktop" and is second from the bottom of the line of 
eleven (11) desktop machines. The person you ordered your computer from 
must have given you some incorrect information.

Here at our house, my eleven year old daughter has a Dimension 4700 with 
dual hard drives, extra SDRAM, a Pioneer DVD-R burner, etc.  It's two steps 
up from you machine and it isn't even close to being "state of the art."

Best,
John Gwilliam

Oh...one more thing. Nancy (my wife) remembers meeting BH about 10 years 
ago and she said that the way she would describe him could be translated to 
"BH is one hot dude!" if she were still thirty years old, but for a fifty 
year old guy to say that is welldisgusting and very embarrassing.

Faux pas!
Best,
John Gwilliam


At 03:08 PM 2/16/2005, Matt Morgan wrote:
What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
LOL
<><><><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
ebay id: mhmeteorites
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer
> Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>
>  steve arnold.chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective; Exactly why this list needs moderation.

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Well said Geoff,
These guys are as crazy as they come. Pretty sad when every university you 
send your junk to tells you it isn't a meteorite, and you get more and more 
angry and spiteful that you resort to defaming people like Art Ehlmann.
I call people like that COWARDS, nothing more, nothing less.
I hope the end up living in a cave like the Frass freak did. That tells us 
alot about that guy.
Michael Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective;Exactly why this list 
needs moderation.


Geoff Cintron posted:
If I were Geoff I would be damn mad that
this idiot could get away with hijacking my thread

Dear Geoff and List:
Thanks for that. Nice to see you posting to the List again  : )
You are right, I was very angry. Like you, I was looking forward to 
hearing about other listees' experiences in Tucson -- not yet another 
round of this meteorwrong B.S., so I wrote a brutally sarcastic reply to 
DeRusse last night, and then I didn't bother to post it . . . because he 
and his Soggy Bottom Meteorite Country Bumpkin Boys evidently crave the 
attention. They don't seem to be able to tell a meteorite from a cow 
pocky, and no matter how many universities tell them that their 
"meteorites" are lame old river rocks, they just keep on with it. I really 
wouldn't care -- it's their time to waste -- 
except for their cruelty towards Dr. Ehlmann who, as you know, is a friend 
of mine.

Why on earth would somebody post nasty made-up things about our Dr. 
Ehlmann -- an eminent geologist and universally liked and respected 
scientist -- not to mention, a Harvey Award winner? Because they're 
jealous? Because their heads are full of compacted grey dust that "must" 
be from the moon since it's *grey* dust? Because they are so useless in 
the field that they can't find a real meteorite? Who knows, but it's got 
to stop.

List members, please make your views on this matter known immediately to 
the List Moderator. Email me off-List if you need his email address.

Hey DeRusse, I will answer your question about the "nomination procedure": 
The mighty Harvey Awards Committee (of which I am very honored to be a 
founding member) decides who receives the meteorite collecting community's 
awards each year. The only qualifications we have are the friendship, good 
humor, and respect of our peers . . . things I'm afraid you won't 
experience in this lifetime.

Geoff N.
Harvey Awards Committee Member and pleased to be considered a friend of 
Dr. Ehlmann

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[meteorite-list] Re: Tucson 05 Retrospective; Exactly why this list needs moderation.

2005-02-16 Thread Notkin
Geoff Cintron posted:
If I were Geoff I would be damn mad that
this idiot could get away with hijacking my thread

Dear Geoff and List:
Thanks for that. Nice to see you posting to the List again  : )
You are right, I was very angry. Like you, I was looking forward to 
hearing about other listees' experiences in Tucson -- not yet another 
round of this meteorwrong B.S., so I wrote a brutally sarcastic reply 
to DeRusse last night, and then I didn't bother to post it . . . 
because he and his Soggy Bottom Meteorite Country Bumpkin Boys 
evidently crave the attention. They don't seem to be able to tell a 
meteorite from a cow pocky, and no matter how many universities tell 
them that their "meteorites" are lame old river rocks, they just keep 
on with it. I really wouldn't care -- it's their time to waste -- 
except for their cruelty towards Dr. Ehlmann who, as you know, is a 
friend of mine.

Why on earth would somebody post nasty made-up things about our Dr. 
Ehlmann -- an eminent geologist and universally liked and respected 
scientist -- not to mention, a Harvey Award winner? Because they're 
jealous? Because their heads are full of compacted grey dust that 
"must" be from the moon since it's *grey* dust? Because they are so 
useless in the field that they can't find a real meteorite? Who knows, 
but it's got to stop.

List members, please make your views on this matter known immediately 
to the List Moderator. Email me off-List if you need his email address.

Hey DeRusse, I will answer your question about the "nomination 
procedure": The mighty Harvey Awards Committee (of which I am very 
honored to be a founding member) decides who receives the meteorite 
collecting community's awards each year. The only qualifications we 
have are the friendship, good humor, and respect of our peers . . . 
things I'm afraid you won't experience in this lifetime.

Geoff N.
Harvey Awards Committee Member and pleased to be considered a friend of 
Dr. Ehlmann

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Re: [meteorite-list] Harvey

2005-02-16 Thread David Freeman
For fun, try a google search of Harvey H. Nininger. There are more than 
one page.

If you have not read Find A Falling Star you have not lived right yet.
No, not the six foot rabbit, that is a different Harvey, and not that 
noontime quazi-political-
infomercial guy under the disguise of news, he used to be entertaining 
30 years ago.

Dave F.
mjwy
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Now, just who is this Harvey guy anyway?
TODD
Scottsdale, AZ
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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
"Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology."

I did not start any crap, I just thought her sculptured meteorite was a good 
idea, it sold for a small fortune!  Some other list members started saying 
it was fishy, check the archives before you get on my case!!!  And she is 
not a list member, so an apology to her on the list would be a waste of 
bandwidth, again, you should quite getting on my case, with out checking the 
facts, ask her, I apologized for my part and she accepted, so LAY OFF!!!

Thanks, Tom
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?


Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy

- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "met list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
"Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess.
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology."
I did not start any crap, I just thought her sculptured meteorite was a good
idea, it sold for a small fortune!  Some other list members started saying
it was fishy, check the archives before you get on my case!!!  And she is
not a list member, so an apology to her on the list would be a waste of
bandwidth, again, you should quite getting on my case, with out checking the
facts, ask her, I apologized for my part and she accepted, so LAY OFF!!!
Thanks, Tom
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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:49 PM
Subject: RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?


Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess. 
We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy

- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "met list" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
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RE: [meteorite-list] Re: Fuzzy pics makes it real?

2005-02-16 Thread Randy Mils

Ryan..
You mean taking the time to complain like YOU just did?
Every now and then, Proud Tom needs to be slapped up side the head.  Consider it my contribution to the civilized world.  No thanks needed.
Randy
>From: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: RYAN PAWELSKI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Re: Fuzzy pics makes it real?
>Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 19:03:45 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>This is one thing I'll never understand. Taking the time to complain about a particular post to this list takes considerably longer than hitting the "delete" button, especially when one sends two seperate emails complaining about one simple post, spam or no spam. Personally, some posts I choose to read, and others I don't.
>
>I'm not taking sides on this, it's just my personal preference of mine. Use the DELETE KEY folks, it only takes one click of the mouse.
>
>Ryan
>
>-Original Message-
>From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 6:46 PM
>To:
>Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?
>
>We respectfully second the motion.
>
>S. Ray DeRusse
>www.bccmeteorites.com
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>
>Randy Mils wrote:
>
> > GOOD LORD PROUD TOM.   Give it a rest already.  We all have the
> > ability to go on ebay and search out crap.
> >
> > If you want to be a ebay cop, send them your resume.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> > > >- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
> > ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "met list"
> >  >Sent: Wednesday, February 16,
> > 2005 5:40 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real? > >
> > >>Boy, people with dreams!
> > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19268&item=5558903867&rd=1
> > >>Thanks, Tom >>peregrineflier <>< >>IMCA 6168
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[meteorite-list] Cassini's Radar Spots Giant Crater on Titan

2005-02-16 Thread Ron Baalke

http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.cfm?release=2005-029

MEDIA RELATIONS OFFICE
JET PROPULSION LABORATORY
CALIFORNIA INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY
NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION
PASADENA, CALIF. 91109 TELEPHONE (818) 354-5011
http://www.jpl.nasa.gov

Carolina Martinez (818) 354-9382
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, Calif.

News Release: 2005-029 February 16, 2005

Cassini's Radar Spots Giant Crater on Titan

A giant impact crater the size of Iowa was spotted on Saturn's
moon Titan by NASA's Cassini radar instrument during Tuesday's
Titan flyby.

Cassini flew within 1,577 kilometers (980 miles) of Titan's
surface and its radar instrument took detailed images of the
surface.  This is the third close Titan flyby of the mission,
which began in July 2004, and only the second time the radar
instrument has examined Titan.  Scientists see some things that
look familiar, along with scenes that are completely new.

The new radar images are available at: http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov
and http://www.nasa.gov/cassini .

"It's reassuring to look at two parts of Titan and see similar
things," said Dr. Jonathan Lunine, Cassini interdisciplinary
scientist from the University of Arizona, Tucson.  "At the same
time, there are new and strange things."

This flyby is the first time that Cassini's radar and the imaging
camera overlapped.  This overlap in coverage should be able to
provide more information about the surface features than either
technique alone.  The 440-kilometer-wide (273-mile) crater
identified by the radar instrument was seen before with Cassini's
imaging cameras, but not in this detail.

A second radar image released today shows features nicknamed "cat
scratches".  These parallel linear features are intriguing, and
may be formed by winds, like sand dunes, or by other geological
processes.

On Thursday, Cassini will conduct its first close flyby of
Saturn's icy moon Enceladus (en-SELL-uh-duss) at a distance of
approximately 1,180 kilometers (730 miles).  Enceladus is one of
the most reflective objects in the solar system, so bright that
its surface resembles freshly fallen snow.

The Cassini-Huygens mission is a cooperative project of NASA, the
European Space Agency and the Italian Space Agency.  The Jet
Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of
Technology in Pasadena, manages the Cassini mission for NASA's
Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C.  JPL designed,
developed and assembled the Cassini orbiter.

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[meteorite-list] Harvey

2005-02-16 Thread PrintsTodd
Now, just who is this Harvey guy anyway?

TODD
Scottsdale, AZ
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[meteorite-list] Re: Fuzzy pics makes it real?

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
This is one thing I'll never understand. Taking the time to complain about a 
particular post to this list takes considerably longer than hitting the 
"delete" button, especially when one sends two seperate emails complaining 
about one simple post, spam or no spam. Personally, some posts I choose to 
read, and others I don't. 

I'm not taking sides on this, it's just my personal preference of mine. Use the 
DELETE KEY folks, it only takes one click of the mouse.  

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 6:46 PM
To: 
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?

We respectfully second the motion.

S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com
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Randy Mils wrote:

> GOOD LORD PROUD TOM.   Give it a rest already.  We all have the 
> ability to go on ebay and search out crap.
>
> If you want to be a ebay cop, send them your resume.
>
> Randy
>
> > >- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" 
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "met list" 
>  >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 
> 2005 5:40 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real? > > 
> >>Boy, people with dreams! 
> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19268&item=5558903867&rd=1
> >> 
> >>Thanks, Tom >>peregrineflier <>< >>IMCA 6168 
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Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?

2005-02-16 Thread S. Ray DeRusse
We respectfully second the motion.
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com
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Randy Mils wrote:
GOOD LORD PROUD TOM.   Give it a rest already.  We all have the 
ability to go on ebay and search out crap.

If you want to be a ebay cop, send them your resume.
Randy
> >- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "met list" 
 >Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 
2005 5:40 PM >Subject: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real? > > 
>>Boy, people with dreams! 
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19268&item=5558903867&rd=1 
>>Thanks, Tom >>peregrineflier <>< >>IMCA 6168 
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RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread JKGwilliam
Tom,
First of all, thanks to Randy for standing up and saying something.
Secondly, Tom, many of us have asked you nicely in the past to stop your 
ebay sleuth thingy.

I'm sure no one else has changed their mind about thatI know I haven't.
So, stop it.
John
At 04:49 PM 2/16/2005, Randy Mils wrote:
Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a 
resume.

I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, 
and assorted BS.

Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray 
Godess.  We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.

Randy
>- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
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>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:38 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?
>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841 
185&rd=1
>>Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread JKGwilliam
You bring up a good point Mark.  Maybe the BD Boyz should open the Harvey 
Awards to a nomination and voting system like the Soggy Bottom Scientists 
mentioned in their post.  List members could nominate who they think most 
fits the categories chosen by the Boyz.  Then, voting could take place the 
week before the Tucson Show to give Geoff ample time to print up the awards.

Best,
John Gwilliam
At 12:43 PM 2/16/2005, Mark Bowling wrote:
In fact, I'd like to nominate you for the new "Jackass of the Year" award?
That is if Geoff and Steve allow for that...
Mark B.
Vail, AZ
--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings List;
>
> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in
> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a
> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old
> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite
> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily
> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my
> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the
> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination
> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism
> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his
> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's
> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct
> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
>
> Cordially,
> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

>
> Notkin wrote:
>
> > Dear Friends and Listees:
> >
> > I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson
> > show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of
> > Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house
> > full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with
> > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few
> > collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care
> > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun
> > when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then
> > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun
> > : )
> >
> > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and
> > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The
> > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona
> > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our
> > many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being
> > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy
> > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage
> > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper
> > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >
> > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >
> > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >
> > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime
> > achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our
> > community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >
> > Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our
> > Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards
> > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief --
> > we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I
> > was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he
> > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but
> > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of
> > the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll
> > leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and
> > Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which
> > they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best
> > ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend
> > Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us
> > drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a
> > very talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess
> > *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.
> >
> > As always, 

RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread Randy Mils

Hey Proud Tom.
How about giving it a rest.  If you want to be an ebay cop, send ebay a resume.  
I, for one, am getting tired of your posts of ebay wrongs, blurred photos, and assorted BS.
Remember, you are one that originally started the BS about Delray Godess.  We all know how that backfired and YOU never did give her an apology.
Randy

>- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
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>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:38 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?
>
>
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
>>Thanks, Tom
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RE: Fw: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?

2005-02-16 Thread Randy Mils
GOOD LORD PROUD TOM.   Give it a rest already.  We all have the ability to go on ebay and search out crap.
If you want to be a ebay cop, send them your resume.
Randy

>
>- Original Message - From: "Tom Knudson"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "met list" 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:40 PM
>Subject: [meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?
>
>
>>Boy, people with dreams!
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19268&item=5558903867&rd=1
>>Thanks, Tom
>>peregrineflier <><
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[meteorite-list] Re: new computer & dvd

2005-02-16 Thread RYAN PAWELSKI
I bought a DELL DIMENSION 2400 last year. It was a STATE OF THE ART computer at 
the time. I just got the MOVIE "FIRESTORM" a few days ago as well. 

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: Matt Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 4:08 PM
To: Meteorite List 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
LOL
<><><><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
ebay id: mhmeteorites
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer


> Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>
>  steve arnold.chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
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Re: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread Grant L. Elliott
Looks like a piece of Baltic Amber to me-
Regards, Grant
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 5:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Grant L. Elliott
Mark,
You crystallized everything I was thinking while reading all this email 
exchange. This individual's psyche depends on pushing people's buttons, and 
from my observation, he has been very successful in doing so-

Regards, Grant Elliott
- Original Message - 
From: "Mark Bowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


Tossing boiling water on the list and then complaining about our response
is
pretty lame.
Why doesn't somebody inquire with the university directly - I doubt that
the
dean will stand by the alleged statement.  It might be good to help this
kook
burn more bridges behind him - he may then do less harm later on.  Then
again,
giving him more attention, dragging this out on the list (thus chasing
more
people away which hurts the list) may give him more enjoyment...
Mark
--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of
anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just
reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean.
We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to you.  In fact we do
not agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean
has a different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is
related and somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your
anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to
change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better
eventually.
Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com

Michael Farmer wrote:
> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a
> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better
> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest
> collections for decades.
> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites"
> in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will
> not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you
> wish.
> Sincerely
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
>
>
>> Greetings List;
>>
>>Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in
>> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely
>> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an
>> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite
>> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't
>> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not
>> much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to
>> it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of
>> election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How
>> does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work
>> for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did
>> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
>> nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in
>> planetary science?
>>
>> Cordially,
>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
>> www.bccmeteorites.com
>>

>>
>>
>> Notkin wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Friends and Listees:
>>>
>>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson
>>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state
>>> of Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a
>>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met
>>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded
>>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic
>>> taking care of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it
>>> was more fun when I used come out here for a vacation each February
>>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
>>> part wasn't so fun   : )
>>>
>>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB
>>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey
>>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club,
>>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
>>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able to move around and
>>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a crowded restaurant
>>> table, while experiencing lousy waite

Re: [meteorite-list] USPS, ebay and Amazon

2005-02-16 Thread Gerald Flaherty
Just want to thank you pubically Kevin! Very hard to put it down. Marvelous 
results for all your efforts!!
Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:10 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] USPS, ebay and Amazon


Re: The Care and Feeding of "The Art of Collecting Meteorites."
Not-to-Worry Dept. - All books sent to USA addresses have "Delivery
Confirmation" attached. Thanks to our US Postal Service, books sent as 
early as
February 8 reached their destination on February 10..or not yet. 
Pardon our
dust. I am monitoring delivery daily and am quite frustrated by these 
delays.
Please don't ask me (yet) to provide over 300 USPS tracking numbers to 
each
individual who has ordered so far. I estimate that only 10% of all mailed
copies have been delivered as of this moment (Wednesday morning). One 
reader in
New Mexico worried about his copy and I found it sitting in Memphis, TN  -
probably visiting Elvis.

Amazon sales - Are out of the question. They want a minimum commission of
40% of the retail price, and possibly as much as 55%. This works only if 
you
have an artificially inflated cover price.

ebay - I will offer the book at a later date on ebay. Presently, I am 
making
it available first to loyal list members. "meteorobs", and readers  of
Meteorite magazine, as the "numbered, signed copy" concept is quite 
popular.

Regards to all,
Kevin Kichinka
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[meteorite-list] Fuzzy pics makes it real?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
Boy, people with dreams!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=19268&item=5558903867&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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[meteorite-list] is this a meteorite?

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512841185&rd=1
Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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Re: [meteorite-list] new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Matt Morgan
What does this post have to do with meteorites? I've gotten a few new
computers over the last two years as well. Anyone else?? New cameras,
camcorders, VCRs, DVDs?
LOL
<><><><><><><>
Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
PO Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215 USA
ebay id: mhmeteorites
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:07 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] new computer


> Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
> got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
> website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
> DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.
>
>  steve arnold.chicago
>
> Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120
> I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728
> Illinois Meteorites
> website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
> http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/illinoismeteorites/
>
>
>
>
>
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[meteorite-list] new computer

2005-02-16 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi and good afternoon list.I just want to let everyone know that I   just
got my new computer and will be putting my tucson pictures up on my
website for viewing.I'll let you know when I am done.I got a DELL
DIMENSION 3000.It is state of the art computer.

 steve arnold.chicago

Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 
I. M. C. A. MEMBER #6728 
Illinois Meteorites 
website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
And this person already wanted cheats more of a
person, for this wonder why federal organs USA do not
begin to do inquiries on this swindler

Matteo


 --- "stan ." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> I second that nomination...
> 
> I also nominate this fellow for "worst salesman of
> the year"
> 
> from his web site regarding plastic zip lock baggies
> of powedered 
> 'meteorite':
> "a limited amount will be sold at $150,000.00, per
> gram. WOW, it really is a 
> dull gray color!"
> 
> WOW a really dull grey color really makes me wanna
> open the check book to 
> the tune of 150k$ a gram!
> 
> 
> 
> >From: Mark Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Notkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: Meteorite List
> 
> >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:43:00 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >In fact, I'd like to nominate you for the new
> "Jackass of the Year" award?
> >That is if Geoff and Steve allow for that...
> >
> >Mark B.
> >Vail, AZ
> >
> >--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > Greetings List;
> > >
> > > Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a
> > > personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in
> > > which he informed me that among other things,
> Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a
> > > geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an old
> > > man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite
> > > collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't necessarily
> > > agree with everything he Dean said. But it
> matters not much since in my
> > > view this award has very little meaning attached
> to it because of the
> > > group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination
> > > procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism
> > > scheme and showering of affection work for a
> group who even his
> > > colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you
> include the Dean's
> > > viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
> nilly to keep misconduct
> > > and racism  a fertile nesting ground in
> planetary science?
> > >
> > > Cordially,
> > > S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> > > www.bccmeteorites.com
> > >
>
>
> > >
> > > Notkin wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Friends and Listees:
> > > >
> > > > I've come up for air after a long and
> sometimes exhausting Tucson
> > > > show. This was my first show as a legal
> resident of the great state of
> > > > Arizona and it was a very different experience
> for me. I had a house
> > > > full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met with
> > > > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded for a few
> > > > collection pieces, and generally ran around
> like a lunatic taking care
> > > > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I
> think it was more fun
> > > > when I used come out here for a vacation each
> February . . . but then
> > > > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and
> that part wasn't so fun
> > > > : )
> > > >
> > > > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB and
> > > > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem
> party and Harvey Awards. The
> > > > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper
> Club, inside the Arizona
> > > > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
> venues, and I agree. Our
> > > > many guests were able to move around and
> socialize, instead of being
> > > > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table,
> while experiencing lousy
> > > > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly
> enjoyed having a stage
> > > > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We
> will return to the Copper
> > > > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> > > >
> > > > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> > > >
> > > > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > > > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > > > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > > > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > > > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > > > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > > > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime
> achievement
> > > >
> > > > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime
> > > > achievement award  : )  There are many other
> deserving people in our
> > > > community, so stay tuned for next year's
> awards!
> > > >
> > > > Low point of the show this year was when
> somebody stole one of our
> > > > Harvey Awards, while they were on display
> prior to the awards
> > > > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that --
> thanks to our thief --
> > > > we did not have an award to give to our final
> recipient (E.T.), but I
> > > > was able to make another one, and deliver it
> to E.T.'s room before he
> > > > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are
> something of a hot item, but
> > > > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Bowling
Tossing boiling water on the list and then complaining about our response is
pretty lame.

Why doesn't somebody inquire with the university directly - I doubt that the
dean will stand by the alleged statement.  It might be good to help this kook
burn more bridges behind him - he may then do less harm later on.  Then again,
giving him more attention, dragging this out on the list (thus chasing more
people away which hurts the list) may give him more enjoyment...

Mark

--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of 
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just 
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean. 
> We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to you.  In fact we do 
> not agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean 
> has a different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is 
> related and somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your 
> anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to 
> change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better 
> eventually.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

> Michael Farmer wrote:
> 
> > Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a 
> > meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> > Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better 
> > than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest 
> > collections for decades.
> > Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" 
> > in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will 
> > not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
> > Sincerely
> > Mike Farmer
> > - Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Meteorite List" 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
> >
> >
> >> Greetings List;
> >>
> >>Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
> >> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
> >> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely 
> >> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an 
> >> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
> >> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't 
> >> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not 
> >> much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to 
> >> it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of 
> >> election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How 
> >> does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work 
> >> for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did 
> >> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy 
> >> nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in 
> >> planetary science?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>
>

> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Notkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>
> >>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
> >>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state 
> >>> of Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a 
> >>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met 
> >>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded 
> >>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic 
> >>> taking care of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it 
> >>> was more fun when I used come out here for a vacation each February 
> >>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that 
> >>> part wasn't so fun   : )
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB 
> >>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey 
> >>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, 
> >>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous 
> >>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able to move around and 
> >>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a crowded restaurant 
> >>> table, while experiencing lousy waiter service . . . and Steve and I 
> >>> certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to present the Harvey 
> >>> Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next year if the hotel 
> >>> remains open.
> >>>
> >>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>
> >>> Dr. Art Ehl

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread stan .
I second that nomination...
I also nominate this fellow for "worst salesman of the year"
from his web site regarding plastic zip lock baggies of powedered 
'meteorite':
"a limited amount will be sold at $150,000.00, per gram. WOW, it really is a 
dull gray color!"

WOW a really dull grey color really makes me wanna open the check book to 
the tune of 150k$ a gram!


From: Mark Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Notkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: Meteorite List 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 11:43:00 -0800 (PST)
In fact, I'd like to nominate you for the new "Jackass of the Year" award?
That is if Geoff and Steve allow for that...
Mark B.
Vail, AZ
--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Greetings List;
>
> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in
> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a
> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old
> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite
> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily
> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my
> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the
> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination
> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism
> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his
> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's
> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct
> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
>
> Cordially,
> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

>
> Notkin wrote:
>
> > Dear Friends and Listees:
> >
> > I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson
> > show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of
> > Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house
> > full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with
> > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few
> > collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care
> > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun
> > when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then
> > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun
> > : )
> >
> > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and
> > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The
> > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona
> > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our
> > many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being
> > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy
> > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage
> > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper
> > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >
> > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >
> > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >
> > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime
> > achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our
> > community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >
> > Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our
> > Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards
> > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief --
> > we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I
> > was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he
> > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but
> > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of
> > the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll
> > leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and
> > Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which
> > they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best
> > ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend
> > Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us
> > drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a
> > very talented jewelr

[meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - February 10-16, 2005

2005-02-16 Thread Ron Baalke

MARS GLOBAL SURVEYOR IMAGES
February 10-16, 2005

The following new images taken by the Mars Orbiter Camera (MOC) on
the Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft are now available:

o Dunes in Noachis (Released 10 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/10/

o Sedimentary Rock in Candor (Released 11 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/11/

o MOC 1000th Release! (Released 12 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/12/

o Polar Polygons (Released 13 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/13/

o Martian Valentine's Day (Released 14 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/14/

o Mars at Ls 160 Degrees (Released 15 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/15/

o Antoniadi's Floor (Released 16 February 2005)
  http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2005/02/16/


All of the Mars Global Surveyor images are archived here:

http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/index.html

Mars Global Surveyor was launched in November 1996 and has been
in Mars orbit since September 1997.   It began its primary
mapping mission on March 8, 1999.  Mars Global Surveyor is the 
first mission in a long-term program of Mars exploration known as 
the Mars Surveyor Program that is managed by JPL for NASA's Office
of Space Science, Washington, DC.  Malin Space Science Systems (MSSS)
and the California Institute of Technology built the MOC
using spare hardware from the Mars Observer mission. MSSS operates
the camera from its facilities in San Diego, CA. The Jet Propulsion
Laboratory's Mars Surveyor Operations Project operates the Mars Global
Surveyor spacecraft with its industrial partner, Lockheed Martin
Astronautics, from facilities in Pasadena, CA and Denver, CO.

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[meteorite-list] Yes.....one more oriented Sikhote-Alin meteorite

2005-02-16 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello All,
Just to keep this interesting thread going
Another one of the Sikhote's I "found" in Tucson this year.  This one is 
either half bullet, spinosaur tooth or thumb shaped.

http://www.meteoritearticles.com/colsikhote15gor.html
Clear Skies,
Mark Bostick
www.meteoritearticles.com
www.kansasmeteoritesociety.com
www.imca.cc
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[meteorite-list] Re: Classification of BCC meteorite

2005-02-16 Thread David Freeman
Duff, Fred Duff!
Dave F.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Dave, you are correct! I found this classification completed on 
the BCC meteorite in the publication "Mental Disease Quarterly".
Simpson et al. 2005  Stone Coprolite of BCC. Ordinary fossil droppings 
considered by mental patients to be meteorites.

PS: Sorry Dave, I know Wyoming has a lot of coprolite, and I really 
didn't mean to assassinate the integrity of coprolite collectors by 
comparing real coprolite with BCC meteor wrongs, but I couldn't resist 
a little Homer, er, humor.
Regards To All, Fred Hall

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Re: [meteorite-list] we are all idiots!

2005-02-16 Thread MexicoDoug
In a message dated 2/16/2005 12:54:54 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:

>He said "your an f#&#ing idiot

Tom, pardon his Greek to all of us - since you have brought the inexcusable 
behavior of your friend to the list's attention and extrapolated for your 
reasons to cover us all, and then asked basically whether you are the only one 
being insulted, in a way that cries for remedy to the problem created, now I'll 
add my two centavos,

Experienced meteorite hunters and educators learn to be credible ambassadors.  
It has everything to do with how you present yourself as a credible source.  
For example if the "National Inquirer" tabloid says "Martian Rock is Alive" vs. 
a joint research team of NASA and other scientists from the Johnson Space 
Center and Stanford University, announcing "Meteorite yields evidence of 
primitive life on early Mars", it makes a big difference.  Extrapolation can be 
dangerous in these circumstances and counterproductive to science and rational 
enthusiasts.  And some of us don't like receiving unsolicited email calling us, 
with the click of your enter key, and whether sarcastically, or not, all idiots.

So if you really want to help your 'friend', as opposed to just create an 
attention or pick a fight, you could try the tact of supporting your claims in 
an unbiased manner in conversation rather than expecting someone to believe 
whatever you say.  Give him the IMCA.cc website, refer him to the Nortons' 
books, tell him o look up "Holbrook Arizona" on the internet, or the NASA pages 
on Mars rocks, an online link to the Smithsonian meteorite collection 
description, British Museum's, TCU's, ASU's etc. etc.

The "Grasshopper, we have much work to do." strategy probably will make more 
progress here vs. the "Your mama wears army boots and it's because I said so." 
strategy.  If you prefer the latter I would recommend you consider taking up 
boxing.

The perfect school qualifications of your friend from some undisclosed 
educational institution might reconcile when viewing some real doubts he has 
which you may not recognize ... regarding the novel "I can own a meteorite" 
idea and the source of it to his virgin ears.  We are all meteoritical 
ambassadors on opportunity to the meteoritically challenged, and if it doesn't 
work, you can always cuss him out in private if that makes you feel good.  Your 
'friend' is walking in the footsteps of Aristotle, who also had a '4.0 gpa' 
plus receiving extra credit ... 

Saludos, Doug
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Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
And Bernd you forgot to add, that Dr.Ehlmann is one of the nicest characters
of all in meteoritics. Whenver a collector has a question to a particular
TCU or Monning piece, he will answer immediately, giving full information.

This DeRusse has a niveau
We should better put him back in the lunatic sandbox to play with the
Pellissons.

Buckleboo!
Martin

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Subject: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann


> Mike Farmer wrote:
>
> > Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
> > he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.
>
>
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
> chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).
>
> T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
> County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)
>
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
> ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).
>
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
> breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
> Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).
>
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
> Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).
>
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
> from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-472).
>
> EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
> Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
> Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
> (Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).
>
>
>
> Bernd
>
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[meteorite-list] NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars

2005-02-16 Thread Ron Baalke


http://www.space.com/scienceastronomy/mars_life_050216.html

NASA Researchers Claim Evidence of Present Life on Mars
By Brian Berger 
Space News 
16 February 2005

WASHINGTON -- A pair of NASA scientists told a group of space officials
at a private meeting here Sunday that they have found strong evidence
that life may exist today on Mars, hidden away in caves and sustained by
pockets of water.

The scientists, Carol Stoker and Larry Lemke of NASA's Ames Research
Center in Silicon Valley, told the group that they have submitted their
findings to the journal Nature for publication in May, and their paper
currently is being peer reviewed.

What Stoker and Lemke have found, according to several attendees of the
private meeting, is not direct proof of life on Mars, but methane
signatures and other signs of possible biological activity remarkably
similar to those recently discovered in caves here on Earth.

Stoker and other researchers have long theorized that the Martian
subsurface could harbor biological organisms that have developed unusual
strategies for existing in extreme environments. That suspicion led
Stoker and a team of U.S. and Spanish researchers in 2003 to
southwestern Spain to search for subsurface life near the
Rio Tinto river - so-called because of its reddish tint - the product of
iron being dissolved in its highly acidic water.

Stoker did not respond to messages left Tuesday on her voice mail at Ames.

Stoker told SPACE.com in 2003, weeks before
leading the expedition to southwestern Spain, that by studying the very
acidic Rio Tinto, she and other scientists hoped to characterize the
potential for a "chemical bioreactor" in the subsurface - an underground
microbial ecosystem of sorts that might well control the chemistry of
the surface environment.

Making such a discovery at Rio Tinto, Stoker said in 2003, would mean
uncovering a new, previously uncharacterized metabolic strategy for
living in the subsurface. "For that reason, the search for life in the
Rio Tinto is a good analog for searching for life on Mars," she said.

Stoker told her private audience Sunday evening that by comparing
discoveries made at Rio Tinto with data collected by ground-based
telescopes and orbiting spacecraft, including the European Space
Agency's Mars Express, she and Lemke have made a very a strong case that
life exists below Mars' surface.

The two scientists, according to sources at the Sunday meeting, based
their case in part on Mars' fluctuating methane signatures that
could be a sign of an active underground biosphere and nearby surface
concentrations of the sulfate jarosite, a mineral salt found on Earth in
hot springs and other acidic bodies of water like Rio Tinto that have
been found to harbor life despite their inhospitable environments.

One of NASA's Mars Exploration Rovers, Opportunity, bolstered the case
for water on Mars when it discovered jarosite and other mineral salts on
a rocky outcropping in Merdiani Planum, the intrepid rover's landing
site chosen because scientists believe the area was once covered by
salty sea.

Stoker and Lemke's research could lead the search for Martian biology
underground, where standing water would help account the curious methane
signatures the two have been analyzing.

"They are desperate to find out what could be producing the methane,"
one attendee told Space News. "Their answer is drill, drill, drill."

NASA has no firm plans for sending a drill-equipped lander to Mars, but
the agency is planning to launch a powerful new rover in 2009 that could
help shed additional light on Stoker and Lemke's intriguing findings.
Dubbed the Mars Science Laboratory, the nuclear-powered rover will range
farther than any of its predecessors and will be carrying an advanced
mass spectrometer to sniff out methane with greater sensitivity than any
instrument flown to date.

In 1996 a team of NASA and Stanford University researchers created a
stir when they published findings that meteorites recovered from the
Allen Hills region of Antarctica contained evidence of possible past
life on Mars. Those findings remain controversial, with many researchers
unconvinced that those meteorites held even possible evidence that very
primitive microbial life had once existed on Mars.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Bowling
In fact, I'd like to nominate you for the new "Jackass of the Year" award? 
That is if Geoff and Steve allow for that...

Mark B.
Vail, AZ

--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings List;
> 
> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his 
> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's 
> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct 
> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
> 
> Cordially,
> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

> 
> Notkin wrote:
> 
> > Dear Friends and Listees:
> >
> > I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
> > show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
> > Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
> > full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
> > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
> > collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
> > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
> > when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then 
> > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun   
> > : )
> >
> > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
> > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
> > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
> > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our 
> > many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being 
> > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy 
> > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage 
> > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper 
> > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >
> > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >
> > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >
> > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
> > achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
> > community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >
> > Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
> > Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards 
> > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- 
> > we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I 
> > was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he 
> > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but 
> > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of 
> > the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll 
> > leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. 
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and 
> > Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which 
> > they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best 
> > ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend 
> > Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us 
> > drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a 
> > very talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess 
> > *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.
> >
> > As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with 
> > the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. Allan 
> > Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked everyone 
> > by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the tie isn't 
> > so bad.
> >
> > It was a pleasure to finally meet fellow collector Martin Horejsi, 
> > after 

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Mark Bowling
Boy, you really demonstrate very poor judgement.  Why don't you peddle your
petty jealousy somewhere else...  Or are you just hoping to be the first
recipient of the new "Jackass of the Year" award?



--- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Greetings List;
> 
> Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his 
> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's 
> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct 
> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
> 
> Cordially,
> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

> 
> Notkin wrote:
> 
> > Dear Friends and Listees:
> >
> > I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
> > show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
> > Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
> > full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
> > clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
> > collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
> > of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
> > when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then 
> > I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun   
> > : )
> >
> > I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
> > myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
> > consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
> > Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our 
> > many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being 
> > pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy 
> > waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage 
> > from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper 
> > Club next year if the hotel remains open.
> >
> > Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >
> > Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> > Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> > Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> > Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> > Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >
> > And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
> > achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
> > community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >
> > Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
> > Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards 
> > ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- 
> > we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I 
> > was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he 
> > left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but 
> > COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of 
> > the Year" certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll 
> > leave it out on the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. 
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and 
> > Jim Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which 
> > they very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best 
> > ever. Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend 
> > Geoff Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us 
> > drinks during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a 
> > very talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess 
> > *and* absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.
> >
> > As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with 
> > the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever this year. Allan 
> > Lang's auction on the Sunday was a success too, and I shocked everyone 
> > by showing up in a suit and tie. Well, once a year with the tie isn't 
> > so bad.
> >
> > It was a pleasur

[meteorite-list] HOTMAIL SUX- PERIOD.

2005-02-16 Thread harlan trammell
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Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 10:55:27 -0700, David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Dear Greg;
>Funny you should ask, why none other than Homer Simpson!
>

And by the time it reached the ground, it was no bigger than a chihuahua's head!

Here's a clip of the recorded fall:
http://webpages.charter.net/garrison6328/bartscomet.gif
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Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Redfern
Hi Dave,

OK, then, MYSTERY SOLVED (DOH!) I am sure Mr. Simpson had NOT overly 
partaken of ...BEERR when the analysis was done.

   And come to think of it, isn't Mr. Simpson affiliated with the same 
broadcasting medium that put forth the special on "Were the Moon Landings a 
Hoax"??? Remember that one??? Maybe some of the lunar specimens used for the 
alleged fake lunar surface have made their way into who knows where?

All the best,

Greg


-Original Message-
From: David Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 12:55 PM
To: Greg Redfern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

Dear Greg;
Funny you should ask, why none other than Homer Simpson!

Dave f.




Greg Redfern wrote:

>Bravo Bernd, Bravo!
>
>On a separate note - who did the classification of BCC's "specimens"?
>
>Greg
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:30 AM
>To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
>Subject: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann
>
>Mike Farmer wrote:
>
>>Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
>>he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.
>>
>
>
>EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
>chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).
>
>T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
>County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)
>
>EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
>ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).
>
>EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
>breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
>Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).
>
>EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
>Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).
>
>EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
>from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-472).
>
>EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
>Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
>Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
>(Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).
>
>
>
>Bernd
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread David Freeman
Dear Greg;
Funny you should ask, why none other than Homer Simpson!
Dave f.

Greg Redfern wrote:
Bravo Bernd, Bravo!
On a separate note - who did the classification of BCC's "specimens"?
Greg
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann
Mike Farmer wrote:
Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).
T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)
EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).
EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).
EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).
EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-472).
EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
(Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).

Bernd
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[meteorite-list] we are all idiots!

2005-02-16 Thread Tom Knudson
Hi List, a little story;
I like to share the world of meteorites with people, like I am sure all of 
us do. I showed a meteorite to a guy who graduated college with a 4.0 gpa. 
He asked me why I "thought" it was a meteorite. I explained fusion crust, 
the chondrules and Nickel and such, but he refused to believe it was a 
meteorite!  Then he asked me where I got it, I told him I bought it on ebay, 
then the S*^$ hit the fan!  He said "your an f#&#ing idiot, someone puts a 
rock on ebay and calls it a meteorite and you bought it" I then explained 
the meteorite market and that ebay is one of the best markets for 
meteorites. He responded, "then your all a bunch of idiots, all my schooling 
was pointless, I can make more money off all the stupid people in this 
world, I will  sell rocks on ebay as meteorites too, if people like you will 
buy them!
  Have you ever ran into people like this?  I am sure he is not the only 
one. I wonder how many meteor-wrong sellers on ebay are selling them just 
thinking we are stupid enough to buy them?  I told him he would not last an 
hour before his mail box was full of emails telling him his rock is not a 
meteorite!  Oh well, you can't win them all!
Thanks, Tom
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Redfern
Mike,

   I am sure all of us on the List will be very eager to hear what the Dean of 
TCU's Geology Dept has to say. I am sure he would want to see a copy of the 
email posted to the Internet by Mr. DeRusse that describes him by title & 
affiliation & attribution regarding Dr. Ehlmann.

  Inquiring minds surely will want to know.

All the best,

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 12:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Meteorite List 
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

Mr DeRusse,
I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how things could get much 
better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly doubt the Dean of TCU 
could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann. In fact, I do believe I 
will contact the dean today, to see whether what you say is true.
Department of Geology
Texas Christian University
TCU Box 298830
Fort Worth, Texas 76129
Phone: (817) 257-7270
Fax: (817) 257-7789
Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair

Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at TCU.
Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake meteorite is telling 
the truth?
My money is on lying.


- Original Message - 
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


>
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
>There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of 
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just 
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean. We 
> did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to you.  In fact we do not 
> agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean has a 
> different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is related and 
> somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your anger has quite 
> a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to change the facts. 
> Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better eventually.
>
> Cordially,
>
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
> 
> Michael Farmer wrote:
>
>> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a 
>> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
>> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better 
>> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest collections 
>> for decades.
>> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" in 
>> a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will not 
>> turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
>> Sincerely
>> Mike Farmer
>> - Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Cc: "Meteorite List" 
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective
>>
>>
>>> Greetings List;
>>>
>>>Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
>>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
>>> which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
>>> geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
>>> man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
>>> collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
>>> agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
>>> view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
>>> group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
>>> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
>>> scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his 
>>> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's 
>>> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct 
>>> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
>>> www.bccmeteorites.com
>>> 
>>>
>>> Notkin wrote:
>>>
 Dear Friends and Listees:

 I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson show. 
 This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
 Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
 full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
 clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
 collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
 of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
 when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then I 
 had to go back to N

Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Redfern
Bravo Bernd, Bravo!

On a separate note - who did the classification of BCC's "specimens"?

Greg

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Feb 16, 2005 11:30 AM
To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

Mike Farmer wrote:

> Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
> he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.


EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).

T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-472).

EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
(Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).



Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Its the time De Russe go out from the world of the
meteoriteswith her fakes its under ruin the
reputation of many scientific persons

Matteo


 --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 
> Mr DeRusse,
> I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how
> things could get much 
> better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly
> doubt the Dean of TCU 
> could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann.
> In fact, I do believe I 
> will contact the dean today, to see whether what you
> say is true.
> Department of Geology
> Texas Christian University
> TCU Box 298830
> Fort Worth, Texas 76129
> Phone: (817) 257-7270
> Fax: (817) 257-7789
> Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair
> 
> Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at
> TCU.
> Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake
> meteorite is telling 
> the truth?
> My money is on lying.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> 
> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> 
> 
> >
> > Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> >There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of 
> > anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just 
> > reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean. We 
> > did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to
> you.  In fact we do not 
> > agree with much of what the dean said to us about
> him, but the dean has a 
> > different opinion obviously from experience. Our
> experience is related and 
> > somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your anger has quite 
> > a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough
> to change the facts. 
> > Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get
> better eventually.
> >
> > Cordially,
> >
> > S. Ray DeRusse
> > www.bccmeteorites.com
> >
>

> > Michael Farmer wrote:
> >
> >> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a 
> >> meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> >> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better 
> >> than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest collections 
> >> for decades.
> >> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites" in 
> >> a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will not 
> >> turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter
> how much you wish.
> >> Sincerely
> >> Mike Farmer
> >> - Original Message - From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> 
> >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >>
> >>
> >>> Greetings List;
> >>>
> >>>Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> >>> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in 
> >>> which he informed me that among other things,
> Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
> >>> geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an old 
> >>> man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite 
> >>> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't necessarily 
> >>> agree with everything he Dean said. But it
> matters not much since in my 
> >>> view this award has very little meaning attached
> to it because of the 
> >>> group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination 
> >>> procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism 
> >>> scheme and showering of affection work for a
> group who even his 
> >>> colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you
> include the Dean's 
> >>> viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy
> nilly to keep misconduct 
> >>> and racism  a fertile nesting ground in
> planetary science?
> >>>
> >>> Cordially,
> >>> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >>> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>>
>

> >>>
> >>> Notkin wrote:
> >>>
>  Dear Friends and Listees:
> 
>  I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson show. 
>  This was my first show as a legal resident of
> the great state of 
>  Arizona and it was a very different experience
> for me. I had a house 
>  full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met with 
>  clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded for a few 
>  collection pieces, and generally ran around
> like a lunatic taking care 
>  of a million things for nearly three weeks. I
> think it was more fun 
>  when I used come out here for a vacation each
> February . . . but then I 
>  had to go back to New York afterwards, and that
> part wasn't so fun 
>

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Mr DeRusse,
I just found a Lunar meteorite, I am not sure how things could get much 
better, my chin is up, my spirits high, and I highly doubt the Dean of TCU 
could ever say anything like that about Dr Ehlmann. In fact, I do believe I 
will contact the dean today, to see whether what you say is true.
Department of Geology
Texas Christian University
TCU Box 298830
Fort Worth, Texas 76129
Phone: (817) 257-7270
Fax: (817) 257-7789
Dr. Richard Hanson, Chair

Above is the information for the Dean of Geology at TCU.
Perhaps we shoudl all contact him and see it mr fake meteorite is telling 
the truth?
My money is on lying.

- Original Message - 
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Michael Farmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
   There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of 
anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just 
reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean. We 
did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to you.  In fact we do not 
agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean has a 
different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is related and 
somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your anger has quite 
a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to change the facts. 
Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better eventually.

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com

Michael Farmer wrote:
Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a 
meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better 
than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest collections 
for decades.
Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" in 
a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will not 
turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
Sincerely
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his 
colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's 
viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct 
and racism  a fertile nesting ground in planetary science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com

Notkin wrote:
Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson show. 
This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of 
Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house 
full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with 
clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few 
collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care 
of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun 
when I used come out here for a vacation each February . . . but then I 
had to go back to New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun 
  : )

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our 
many guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being 
pinned behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy 
waiter service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage 
from which to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper 
Club next year if the hotel remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award

Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Dave Mouat
Dear Listees

I think the bigger point in all this nonsense is for the "List" referred to in
"Greetings List" to accept another person's statement that we should consider
the Dean's statement.  Not the Dean's statement to me (i.e., Dave), Big Steve,
or any one else, but to the writer of that email (names appearing after the word
"Cordially").
The logic in asking us to accept his/their word that the Dean has somehow
castigated the good Dr. Ehlmann and that we should accept that as gospel is
strange to say the least.  Whoops, I forgot to add "in retrospect".

Dave

tracy latimer wrote:

> "Gentlemen",
> Are you hinting you would like to be considered for the Harvey Award at some
> point?
>
> Sour grapes,
> Tracy Latimer
>
> >Greetings List;
> >
> >Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a
> >personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in which
> >he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a geologist
> >and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old man just
> >waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite collection doing
> >no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily agree with
> >everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my view this
> >award has very little meaning attached to it because of the group handing
> >it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination procedure involved or
> >posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism scheme and showering of
> >affection work for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this
> >way. Did you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together
> >willy nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in
> >planetary science?
> >
> >Cordially,
> >S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >www.bccmeteorites.com
>
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
its type when you have take in turn Dr.A.Rubin where
you have say not work well only why he have say your
material its a fake?

Matteo


 --- "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: 
> 
> Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
> There is no need for name calling. You seem to
> have quite a bit of 
> anger derived from being confronted with unsavory
> facts. We're just 
> reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU
> geology department dean. 
> We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to
> you.  In fact we do 
> not agree with much of what the dean said to us
> about him, but the dean 
> has a different opinion obviously from experience.
> Our experience is 
> related and somewhat different, well documented, and
> verifiable. Your 
> anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this
> is not enough to 
> change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer
> things will get better 
> eventually.
> 
> Cordially,
> 
> S. Ray DeRusse
> www.bccmeteorites.com
>

> Michael Farmer wrote:
> 
> > Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth
> who doesn't have a 
> > meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
> > Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and
> knows meteorites better 
> > than you can imagine, he has curated one of the
> worlds finest 
> > collections for decades.
> > Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself
> and your "meteorites" 
> > in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness
> (and lawsuits) will 
> > not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no
> matter how much you wish.
> > Sincerely
> > Mike Farmer
> > - Original Message - From: "S. Ray
> DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: "Meteorite List"
> 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> >
> >
> >> Greetings List;
> >>
> >>Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> >> personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in 
> >> which he informed me that among other things, Dr.
> Ehlmann was "barely 
> >> a geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an 
> >> old man just waiting to retire," just a menial
> curator of a meteorite 
> >> collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't 
> >> necessarily agree with everything he Dean said.
> But it matters not 
> >> much since in my view this award has very little
> meaning attached to 
> >> it because of the group handing it out. Was there
> some sort of 
> >> election or nomination procedure involved or
> posted somewhere? How 
> >> does this little favoritism scheme and showering
> of affection work 
> >> for a group who even his colleague has bad
> mouthed him this way. Did 
> >> you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you
> gather together willy 
> >> nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile
> nesting ground in 
> >> planetary science?
> >>
> >> Cordially,
> >> S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> >> www.bccmeteorites.com
> >>
>

> 
> >>
> >>
> >> Notkin wrote:
> >>
> >>> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>>
> >>> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson 
> >>> show. This was my first show as a legal resident
> of the great state 
> >>> of Arizona and it was a very different
> experience for me. I had a 
> >>> house full of overnight guests, hosted the big
> birthday bash, met 
> >>> with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer,
> bought and traded 
> >>> for a few collection pieces, and generally ran
> around like a lunatic 
> >>> taking care of a million things for nearly three
> weeks. I think it 
> >>> was more fun when I used come out here for a
> vacation each February 
> >>> . . . but then I had to go back to New York
> afterwards, and that 
> >>> part wasn't so fun   : )
> >>>
> >>> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who
> joined Steve Arnold IMB 
> >>> and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem
> party and Harvey 
> >>> Awards. The consensus was that the new venue
> (The Copper Club, 
> >>> inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement
> over previous 
> >>> venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able
> to move around and 
> >>> socialize, instead of being pinned behind a
> crowded restaurant 
> >>> table, while experiencing lousy waiter service .
> . . and Steve and I 
> >>> certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to
> present the Harvey 
> >>> Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next
> year if the hotel 
> >>> remains open.
> >>>
> >>> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>>
> >>> Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>> Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> >>> Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>> Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> >>> Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> >>> Jose Guggiari

Re: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread martinh
Hello Bernd and All,

One more reference for the pile:

Horejsi, M.G., Ehlmann, A.J., & Cilz, M. (2000). The Tishomingo irons: A 
beautiful mystery. Meteorite, 6, 13.

Cheers,

Martin




- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:30 am
Subject: [meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

> Mike Farmer wrote:
> 
> > Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
> > he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.
> 
> 
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
> chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).
> 
> T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
> County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)
> 
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
> ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).
> 
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
> breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
> Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).
> 
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
> Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).
> 
> EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
> from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-
> 472).
> EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
> Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
> Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
> (Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).
> 
> 
> 
> Bernd
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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread S. Ray DeRusse
Now Now Now Mr. Farmer;
   There is no need for name calling. You seem to have quite a bit of 
anger derived from being confronted with unsavory facts. We're just 
reporting what was conveyed to us from the TCU geology department dean. 
We did not say Mr. Ehlmann was  not a nice person to you.  In fact we do 
not agree with much of what the dean said to us about him, but the dean 
has a different opinion obviously from experience. Our experience is 
related and somewhat different, well documented, and verifiable. Your 
anger has quite a grip on you but unfortunately this is not enough to 
change the facts. Keep your chin up Mr. Farmer things will get better 
eventually.

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse
www.bccmeteorites.com

Michael Farmer wrote:
Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a 
meteorite and it lashing out at the world for it.
Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better 
than you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest 
collections for decades.
Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" 
in a cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will 
not turn your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
Sincerely
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in 
which he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely 
a geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an 
old man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't 
necessarily agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not 
much since in my view this award has very little meaning attached to 
it because of the group handing it out. Was there some sort of 
election or nomination procedure involved or posted somewhere? How 
does this little favoritism scheme and showering of affection work 
for a group who even his colleague has bad mouthed him this way. Did 
you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or did you gather together willy 
nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a fertile nesting ground in 
planetary science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com
 

Notkin wrote:
Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson 
show. This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state 
of Arizona and it was a very different experience for me. I had a 
house full of overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met 
with clients, acted as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded 
for a few collection pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic 
taking care of a million things for nearly three weeks. I think it 
was more fun when I used come out here for a vacation each February 
. . . but then I had to go back to New York afterwards, and that 
part wasn't so fun   : )

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB 
and myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey 
Awards. The consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, 
inside the Arizona Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous 
venues, and I agree. Our many guests were able to move around and 
socialize, instead of being pinned behind a crowded restaurant 
table, while experiencing lousy waiter service . . . and Steve and I 
certainly enjoyed having a stage from which to present the Harvey 
Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next year if the hotel 
remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!

Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our 
Harvey Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards 
ceremony. It was somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief 
-- we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), 
but I was able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room 
before he left for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a 
hot item, but COME ON that's pretty low. We're going to make 

[meteorite-list] A.J. Ehlmann

2005-02-16 Thread bernd . pauli
Mike Farmer wrote:

> Dr Ehlmann ... knows meteorites better than you can imagine,
> he has curated one of the world's finest collections for decades.


EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1985) Classification of eight ordinary
chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 20, 1985, 219-227).

T.J. McCOY, A.J. EHLMANN, and K. KEIL (1995) The Travis
County, Texas, meteorites (Meteoritics 30-3, 1995, 348-351)

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Classification of a second group of
ordinary chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 22-1, 1987, pp. 17-23).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1987) Origin of fragmental and regolith meteorite
breccias - Evidence from the Kendleton L chondrite breccia (Proc.Lun.
Plan.Sci. Conf. 18th, 545-554).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1988) Classification of Six Ordinary
Chondrites from Texas (Meteoritics 23-4, 1988, 361-364).

EHLMANN A.J. et al. (1992) Classification of 4 ordinary chondrites
from the Monnig Meteorite Collection (Meteoritics 27-4, 1992, 470-472).

EHLMANN A.J. and KEIL K. (1994) Further Classification of Ordinary
Chondrites from the Monnig Collection: Round Top(a) L5 S3 - Round
Top(b) H4 S3 - Wray(b) L5 S2 - Hassayampa H4 S3
(Meteoritics 29-1, 1994, pp. 71-73).



Bernd

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
well done

Matteo

 --- Michael Farmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha
scritto: 
> Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who
> doesn't have a meteorite 
> and it lashing out at the world for it.
> Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows
> meteorites better than 
> you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds
> finest collections for 
> decades.
> Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and
> your "meteorites" in a 
> cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and
> lawsuits) will not turn 
> your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how
> much you wish.
> Sincerely
> Mike Farmer
> - Original Message - 
> From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Meteorite List"
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05
> Retrospective
> 
> 
> > Greetings List;
> >
> >Well, imagine our surprise when we read the
> thread below. I had a 
> > personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU
> geology department in which 
> > he informed me that among other things, Dr.
> Ehlmann was "barely a 
> > geologist and not a very good one at that". He
> also called him, "an old 
> > man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator
> of a meteorite 
> > collection doing no real research". He said more
> but I don't necessarily 
> > agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters
> not much since in my 
> > view this award has very little meaning attached
> to it because of the 
> > group handing it out. Was there some sort of
> election or nomination 
> > procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does
> this little favoritism 
> > scheme and showering of affection work for a group
> who even his colleague 
> > has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the
> Dean's viewpoint ? Or 
> > did you gather together willy nilly to keep
> misconduct and racism  a 
> > fertile nesting ground in planetary science?
> >
> > Cordially,
> > S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
> > www.bccmeteorites.com
> >
>

> >
> > Notkin wrote:
> >
> >> Dear Friends and Listees:
> >>
> >> I've come up for air after a long and sometimes
> exhausting Tucson show. 
> >> This was my first show as a legal resident of the
> great state of Arizona 
> >> and it was a very different experience for me. I
> had a house full of 
> >> overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash,
> met with clients, acted 
> >> as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for
> a few collection 
> >> pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic
> taking care of a million 
> >> things for nearly three weeks. I think it was
> more fun when I used come 
> >> out here for a vacation each February . . . but
> then I had to go back to 
> >> New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun 
>  : )
> >>
> >> I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined
> Steve Arnold IMB and 
> >> myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party
> and Harvey Awards. The 
> >> consensus was that the new venue (The Copper
> Club, inside the Arizona 
> >> Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous
> venues, and I agree. Our many 
> >> guests were able to move around and socialize,
> instead of being pinned 
> >> behind a crowded restaurant table, while
> experiencing lousy waiter 
> >> service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed
> having a stage from which 
> >> to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to
> the Copper Club next year 
> >> if the hotel remains open.
> >>
> >> Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
> >>
> >> Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
> >> Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
> >> Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
> >> Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
> >> Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
> >> Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
> >> Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
> >>
> >> And remember, you don't have to be "old" to
> receive a lifetime 
> >> achievement award  : )  There are many other
> deserving people in our 
> >> community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!
> >>
> >> Low point of the show this year was when somebody
> stole one of our Harvey 
> >> Awards, while they were on display prior to the
> awards ceremony. It was 
> >> somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief
> -- 
> >> we did not have an award to give to our final
> recipient (E.T.), but I was 
> >> able to make another one, and deliver it to
> E.T.'s room before he left 
> >> for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of
> a hot item, but COME ON 
> >> that's pretty low. We're going to make a special
> "Jackass of the Year" 
> >> certificate for the person who stole the award,
> and we'll leave it out on 
> >> the table next year, so be sure to steal that
> too. Thanks.
> >>
> >> On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink
> & Larry Monrad and Jim 
> >> Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama
> birthday cake, whic

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Come on, I'm selling all my Sikhotes strictly at 1$/g, no matter whether
they burst of flow lines, do have holes or a oriented. And on ebay I let
them start at Zero.
(shrapnels I don't sell)

- Original Message - 
From: "Meteoryt.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Martin Altmann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.


> > Eeeeh Marcin, you didn't get it:
> > you have to take 30$/gm not 1.5$/gm otherwise the people can't
rechognize
> > the orientation.
>
> Matin, dear Martin
> Someone on this planet must be cheaper than You at least  ;-D
>
> The truth is that I trying to destroy prices of S.A. becouse I plan to buy
> 200kg of SA and make my own new Pallasite from Poland.
>
> -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
> http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
> [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]
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Re: [meteorite-list] My SA shot my CD!

2005-02-16 Thread Francis Graham

> I knew I heard strange noises in my meteorite
> cabinet last night. Turns 
> out a battle broke out between Sikhote-Alin and
> Canyon Diablo over 
> which was the coolest iron. My S-A the shot my CD
> right through the 
> gut. Ouch!

  Reminds me of the Outer Limits episode "Corpus
Earthling" starring Robert Culp and two talking evil
meteorites. Anybody else remember that episode?

Francis Graham




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Re: [meteorite-list] My SA shot my CD!

2005-02-16 Thread Meteoryt.net
> I knew I heard strange noises in my meteorite cabinet last night. Turns 
> out a battle broke out between Sikhote-Alin and Canyon Diablo over 
> which was the coolest iron. My S-A the shot my CD right through the 
> gut. Ouch!
> 
> http://challenge.isu.edu/sa_shot-cd.jpg

Oh my dear
Is he still alive ?
Poor puppy.

I reccomend to buy minimum 5kg Campo so he can watch this 2 bastards 

:))

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Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective

2005-02-16 Thread Michael Farmer
Now I know that you are a bitter piece of filth who doesn't have a meteorite 
and it lashing out at the world for it.
Dr Ehlmann is the nicest man in the world, and knows meteorites better than 
you can imagine, he has curated one of the worlds finest collections for 
decades.
Why don't you just fade away, and lock yourself and your "meteorites" in a 
cave for a while? Bitterness and hatefulness (and lawsuits) will not turn 
your crappy rocks into meteorites, no matter how much you wish.
Sincerely
Mike Farmer
- Original Message - 
From: "S. Ray DeRusse" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Notkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite List" 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Tucson 05 Retrospective


Greetings List;
   Well, imagine our surprise when we read the thread below. I had a 
personal conversation with the Dean of the TCU geology department in which 
he informed me that among other things, Dr. Ehlmann was "barely a 
geologist and not a very good one at that". He also called him, "an old 
man just waiting to retire," just a menial curator of a meteorite 
collection doing no real research". He said more but I don't necessarily 
agree with everything he Dean said. But it matters not much since in my 
view this award has very little meaning attached to it because of the 
group handing it out. Was there some sort of election or nomination 
procedure involved or posted somewhere? How does this little favoritism 
scheme and showering of affection work for a group who even his colleague 
has bad mouthed him this way. Did you include the Dean's viewpoint ? Or 
did you gather together willy nilly to keep misconduct and racism  a 
fertile nesting ground in planetary science?

Cordially,
S. Ray DeRusse and Bill Cutler
www.bccmeteorites.com

Notkin wrote:
Dear Friends and Listees:
I've come up for air after a long and sometimes exhausting Tucson show. 
This was my first show as a legal resident of the great state of Arizona 
and it was a very different experience for me. I had a house full of 
overnight guests, hosted the big birthday bash, met with clients, acted 
as Allan Lang's auctioneer, bought and traded for a few collection 
pieces, and generally ran around like a lunatic taking care of a million 
things for nearly three weeks. I think it was more fun when I used come 
out here for a vacation each February . . . but then I had to go back to 
New York afterwards, and that part wasn't so fun   : )

I'd like to sincerely thank all of you who joined Steve Arnold IMB and 
myself for the Sixth Annual Meteor Mayhem party and Harvey Awards. The 
consensus was that the new venue (The Copper Club, inside the Arizona 
Plaza) was a HUGE improvement over previous venues, and I agree. Our many 
guests were able to move around and socialize, instead of being pinned 
behind a crowded restaurant table, while experiencing lousy waiter 
service . . . and Steve and I certainly enjoyed having a stage from which 
to present the Harvey Awards. We will return to the Copper Club next year 
if the hotel remains open.

Congrats to the 2005 Harvey Award winners:
Dr. Art Ehlmann  --  Lifetime achievement
Michael Blood  --  Ambassador award
Mike Miller  --  Best new meteorite find
Ruben Garcia  --  Best new meteorite find
Sonny Clary  --  Rookie of the year!
Jose Guggiari  --  Best new meteorite find
Edwin "E.T." Thompson  --  Lifetime achievement
And remember, you don't have to be "old" to receive a lifetime 
achievement award  : )  There are many other deserving people in our 
community, so stay tuned for next year's awards!

Low point of the show this year was when somebody stole one of our Harvey 
Awards, while they were on display prior to the awards ceremony. It was 
somewhat embarrassing that -- thanks to our thief -- 
we did not have an award to give to our final recipient (E.T.), but I was 
able to make another one, and deliver it to E.T.'s room before he left 
for Oregon. I know that Harveys are something of a hot item, but COME ON 
that's pretty low. We're going to make a special "Jackass of the Year" 
certificate for the person who stole the award, and we'll leave it out on 
the table next year, so be sure to steal that too. Thanks.

On a more positive note, I'd like to thank Twink & Larry Monrad and Jim 
Kriegh for the stunning Gold Basin panorama birthday cake, which they 
very kindly brought to the party. This year's cake was the best ever. 
Also, thanks to my co-host Steve Arnold IMB, and my great friend Geoff 
Cintron who did everything from act as chauffeur to buying us drinks 
during the awards; and Lisa Marie Morrison of Sirocco Design, a very 
talented jewelry designer, who served as our glamorous hostess *and* 
absentee bid agent during the R.A. Langheinrich auction.

As always, Michael Blood's auction was a great event (I came home with 
the one piece I really wanted) and bigger than ever 

Re: [meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.

2005-02-16 Thread Meteoryt.net
> Eeeeh Marcin, you didn't get it:
> you have to take 30$/gm not 1.5$/gm otherwise the people can't rechognize
> the orientation.

Matin, dear Martin
Someone on this planet must be cheaper than You at least  ;-D

The truth is that I trying to destroy prices of S.A. becouse I plan to buy
200kg of SA and make my own new Pallasite from Poland.

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[meteorite-list] My SA shot my CD!

2005-02-16 Thread Martinh
I knew I heard strange noises in my meteorite cabinet last night. Turns 
out a battle broke out between Sikhote-Alin and Canyon Diablo over 
which was the coolest iron. My S-A the shot my CD right through the 
gut. Ouch!

http://challenge.isu.edu/sa_shot-cd.jpg
Cheers,
Martin H.

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Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite! : s

2005-02-16 Thread Thomas Webb
Dan,
Thanks for clearing it up.  Tom emailed the original
listing to me and in it the seller did call the geode
a meteorite.
My best,
Thomas

--- Dan Wray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Toms and all,
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  When this was originally
> posted I emailed the
> seller about his error and he immediately changed
> it.  Lets move on.
> 
> Dan Wray
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 10:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange meteorite!
> : s
> 
> 
> > "I just think we should be a little more careful
> in criticizing other
> > peoples
> >  ebay ads"
> >
> > When I sent it to the list, it said meteorite in
> the title and
> > description I can't help it if he fixed it
> afterwards!  If someone is
> > going to call a geode a meteorite and list in in
> the meteorite category, I
> > am going to call them on it!  Sorry, but I believe
> in being truthful, but
> > that's just me!!!
> > Thanks, Tom
> > peregrineflier <><
> > IMCA 6168
> >
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> > http://fstop.proboards24.com/
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Tom Knudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > 
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:56 PM
> > Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange
> meteorite! : s
> >
> >
> > > Hello Tom,
> > > The seller says it is a geode, which it is.  He
> made a
> > > mistake in not refining his category for this
> > > particular specimen which is easy to do, but he
> has
> > > not called it a meteorite.  I just think we
> should be
> > > a little more careful in criticizing other
> peoples
> > > ebay ads.  Even when they appear fradulent to a
> well
> > > informed person, they may not be, as evidenced
> by a
> > > recent post on another list.
> > > You have had some interesting posts to the list
> that
> > > are more meteorite related. Keep them coming!
> > > My best,
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Don't you know sarcasm when you here it???  I
> know
> > >> it is not a meteorite,
> > >> but the seller seems to think it is!
> > >> Thanks, Tom
> > >> peregrineflier <><
> > >> IMCA 6168
> > >>
> > >
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> > >> http://fstop.proboards24.com/
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: "Thomas Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> To: "Tom Knudson"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > >> 
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 12:10 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] One strange
> meteorite!
> > >> : s
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > That's just a normal geode Tom.
> > >> > I have dozens of them.
> > >> > Thomas
> > >> >
> > >> > --- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512516161&;
> rd=1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Thanks, Tom
> > >> >> peregrineflier <><
> > >> >> IMCA 6168
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >
>
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
> > >> >> http://fstop.proboards24.com/
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[meteorite-list] USPS, ebay and Amazon

2005-02-16 Thread MARSROX
Re: The Care and Feeding of "The Art of Collecting Meteorites."
 
 
Not-to-Worry Dept. - All books sent to USA addresses have "Delivery  
Confirmation" attached. Thanks to our US Postal Service, books sent as  early 
as 
February 8 reached their destination on February 10..or not yet.  Pardon 
our 
dust. I am monitoring delivery daily and am quite frustrated by these  delays. 
Please don't ask me (yet) to provide over 300 USPS tracking numbers to  each 
individual who has ordered so far. I estimate that only 10% of all mailed  
copies have been delivered as of this moment (Wednesday morning). One reader in 
 
New Mexico worried about his copy and I found it sitting in Memphis, TN  - 
probably visiting Elvis.
 
 
Amazon sales - Are out of the question. They want a minimum commission of  
40% of the retail price, and possibly as much as 55%. This works only if you  
have an artificially inflated cover price.
 
 
ebay - I will offer the book at a later date on ebay. Presently, I am  making 
it available first to loyal list members. "meteorobs", and readers  of 
Meteorite magazine, as the "numbered, signed copy" concept is quite popular. 
 
 
Regards to all,
 
 
Kevin Kichinka
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Eeeeh Marcin, you didn't get it:
you have to take 30$/gm not 1.5$/gm otherwise the people can't rechognize
the orientation.


- Original Message - 
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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:38 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.


> It looks like we have week of Oriented Sikhotes :)
>
> WWW.PolandMET.com/_sikhote_alin.htm
>
> Here I have still few perfect oriented individuals with roll over lipping,
> flowlines etc. etc.
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[meteorite-list] AD - more ORIENTED S.A.

2005-02-16 Thread Meteoryt.net
It looks like we have week of Oriented Sikhotes :)

WWW.PolandMET.com/_sikhote_alin.htm

Here I have still few perfect oriented individuals with roll over lipping,
flowlines etc. etc.

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryt.net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.PolandMET.com   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM +48(607)535 195
[ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]

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[meteorite-list] AD - Extremely nice Sikhote Alin Individual, look!

2005-02-16 Thread C. Giessler
Hi List,
this is a really nice Sikhote Alin individual that i want to show.
http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44608&item=6154215652&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
Low starting price! :)

Greetings to all!
Carsten

http://www.gi-po.de




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Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Chico, Brainard, you!

Nardoo, Jeff.

Hueco tanks Shallowater. Seeläsgen? Credo.

Buckleboo!
Martin

- Original Message - 
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To: Martin Altmann
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:07 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my


I always had trouble with Knyahinya myself! ;-)

Jeff
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Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
Spell:

Wietrzno-Bobrka,
Ssyromolotovo,
Verkhe Dnieprovsk
Bielokrynitschie
Pontlyfni
Mrirt
Xiquipilco
Tamir-Tseterleg
Alta'ameem
Raghunathpura
Nyirabrany
Breitscheid
Metsäkylä
Ploschkovitz
Wu-chu-mu-ch'in
Lutschaunig's Stone
Kittakittaooloo

Pooposo, I'd say.

Ankober Bursum!
Martin

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Strope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Walter Branch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;

Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my


> I can't spell half the named meteorites let alone remember all the NWA
> numbers and what they are
>
> Jim Strope
> 421 Fourth Street
> Glen Dale, WV  26038
>
> http://www.catchafallingstar.com
>
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[meteorite-list] Mike Farmer's Real Occupation

2005-02-16 Thread Walter Branch
Hello Everyone,

Here is the real reason why Mike Farmer has been traveling all over the
world looking at the ground:

http://www.branchmeteorites.com/misc/mfr.jpg

-Walter


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Re: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my

2005-02-16 Thread Jim Strope
I can't spell half the named meteorites let alone remember all the NWA 
numbers and what they are

Jim Strope
421 Fourth Street
Glen Dale, WV  26038
http://www.catchafallingstar.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:31 PM
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If anyone thinks Jim Strope doesn't have a
sense of humor, take at look at some of
his auctions.
Jim, repeat after me:
Milleblllie...no...
milmibill ... no...no...
millie...vannillie...no...that's not it..
milliebillie..no...
(ummm, milbialeee...no...
milbilal...)
hummm, maybe NWA numbers aren't such a bad thing
after all...
-Walter
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 11:12 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Talk about meteorite bullets! Oh my



http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512363256
Now this is what I would call an oriented bullet!
Mike Farmer
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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - February 16, 2005

2005-02-16 Thread SPACEROCKSINC
http://www.geocities.com/spacerocksinc/Feb16.html  

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Re: [meteorite-list] what the heck is up with dho 007?

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Altmann
And as a remark,

Dho 007 is extremely easy accessible and affordable in ebay for the
collector with not so opulent financial means, as the price at the moment
rarely exceeds 5$/g for small slices and large chunks I observed going
sometimes at 1.5$/g.
A completely sick price for a cumulate Eucrite and Dho 007 is a pretty one,
get one from finmet (who should be praised as a hero from each collector, if
you remember how he made affordable - dealers would say: "ruined" - the
price of Kainsaz, Richfield, Seymchan, Dronino, Brahin, Tsarev, Vengerovo,
Markovka, Polujamki, Dronino, Morasko, once some Moons with historical world
record prices).

So take the stuff, while it's hot!
Martin
(who is not paid for this ad).

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Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:57 AM
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Stan,

I've got a large slice of this, its really great stuff, the metal
inclusions are very odd, I can never get how the metal stayed as evenly
spaced metallic flecks when the whole matrix was clearly very molten.
There was a discussion on this a year or so back so maybe search the
archives...

They did initially theorize/suspect it may be of 'mercury type orbit' in
origin due to the anomalous oxygen content which would appear to put it
closer to the sun than some of the others.

Best,
Mark Ford

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RE: [meteorite-list] what the heck is up with dho 007?

2005-02-16 Thread mark ford

Stan,

I've got a large slice of this, its really great stuff, the metal
inclusions are very odd, I can never get how the metal stayed as evenly
spaced metallic flecks when the whole matrix was clearly very molten.
There was a discussion on this a year or so back so maybe search the
archives...

They did initially theorize/suspect it may be of 'mercury type orbit' in
origin due to the anomalous oxygen content which would appear to put it
closer to the sun than some of the others.

Best,
Mark Ford


-Original Message-
From: stan . [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:37 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] what the heck is up with dho 007?

what the heck is going on with dho 007?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3239&item=6512405
947&rd=1

this guy says researchers are speculating the material is from mercury -
I 
did a quick google and found that Yamaguchi et al DID report that it's
an 
anaomolous eucrite and may infact be a mesosiderite!

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/lpsc2003/pdf/1377.pdf

so what would the apropriate name for this material be? if it isnt
related 
to other HED meteorites it isnt a eucrite anymore, right? and it
certainly 
wouldnt be a stony iron messosiderite, unless that term now applies to
rocks 
with .1% stone - so what would we call this stuff, just an anaomolous 
eucrite?


Anyone have any more links / papers about this material?

TIA


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