Re: [meteorite-list] The best of the wrongs!

[M come Meteorite Meteorites]

This is nothingtake a look to this meteorwrong
have sent to me a photo days ago, 3 kg. weight

http://it.geocities.com/tunguska2004/meteorwrong.JPG

unfortunately is not a meteorite...

Matteo

--- Tom Knudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey List, some of you might have seen this in
> person, but I don't think I
> have shared it with the list.  This is a crusted
> (looks like it anyways)
> wrong that had a lot of people thinking..
>  It has not been tested, but some real knowledgeable
> people said it is not,
> while others were not so sure, but check out this
> crust like stuff This
> is a red dry lake find.
> 
> 
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0860.jpg
> 
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0861.jpg
> 
>
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0862.jpg
> 
> Thanks, Tom
> peregrineflier <><
> IMCA 6168
>
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[meteorite-list] Bullet Sikhote, simply breathtaking.

[Michael Farmer]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=6524022200
Check this sucker out! Note the swirled flow lines, showing that this piece 
is a true bullet, spinning as falling. also note the interesting ring with 
little lines of molten material, like candle...
This piece is unlike any other I have seen with that strange ring. Most 
pieces would just have flow lines from the now all the way to the back, not 
this one. Anyone have any ideas why that would form? 

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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[j . divelbiss]

Hello fellow green rock picker-uppers. I have more green rocks than Carter has 
pills. :)

I collect green rocks on a regular basis. After years of collecting and 
studying, along with the help of fellow green rock collectors like Bob V, I 
have concluded that my shergonots are related to an area of gabbro/diorite 
material that has had some of it's plagioclase converted to a green secondary 
mineral, epidote. These metamorphic gneiss-like rocks are very similar to both 
Bob's and Graham's rocks.

I once thought all this green stuff was olivine, but several folks have steared 
me toward the epidote explanation in recent years.

While I am no expert, I do have some of the best green and green-gray rocks 
around that are strikingly just like shergottites in hand sample.

Green Rocks Rule,

John

  



 -- Original message --
From: Robert Verish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Hello Brother Graham and List,
> 
> http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg
> 
> As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
> and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
> Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.
> 
> And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
> my green rock:
> 
> http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg
> 
> Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
> I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
> a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
> top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
> your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
> image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
> small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe. 
> For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
> 670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.
> 
> As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
> based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
> change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
> cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
> rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)
> 
> It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
> be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
> so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
> "shergo-not".
> 
> Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
> "wrong" wasn't?
> 
> Bob V.
> 
> --- Original Message 
> 
>  [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
> experts out there
> Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net 
> Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005 
> 
> 
> Hello list
> 
> I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
> last year when I picked it up along the side of the
> road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth 
> green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
> like my DAG 476 
> shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
> green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
> inside looks like but there are a couple chips 
> out of it and it looks about the same on the inside
> with the green part being fine grained and the black
> bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is
> meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I
> was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite
> but of terrestrial origin.
> 
> Here is a pic of it:
> http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
> The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the
> big rock is of course the rock in question.
> 
> I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area
> since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it
> but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada,
> where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground
> were brought down from various locations by the
> glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck
> dinner of geology up here.
> 
> I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind
> copying Bob Verish 
> and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite
> for a year!! :-)
> 
> Any comments are greatly appreciated
> Graham
> 
> ~
> 
> 
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[meteorite-list] Scientists Find New Evidence of 'Snowball Earth'

[Ron Baalke]

http://www.knoxstudio.com/shns/story.cfm?pk=SNOWBALL-EARTH-04-07-05&cat=II

Scientists find new evidence of 'Snowball Earth'
By LEE BOWMAN
Scripps Howard News Service
April 07, 2005

Scientists have new evidence from interplanetary dust that Earth was
sheathed in ice at least twice during a period that began around
three-quarters of a billion years ago.

The theory that our planet - oceans and land alike - was encased in ice
several times from about 750 million to 580 million years ago has been
explored since the 1960s.

In the new study, geologists Bernd Bodiselitsch and Christian Koeberl
from the University of Vienna in Austria analyzed cores drilled by
copper miners in Zambia and the Congo, looking for signatures of ice.

What they found was a clear spike in iridium - a platinum-like metal
that's rare on Earth but fairly common in meteors and space dust - in
sediments from about 635 million years ago and slightly less conclusive
evidence from 710 million years ago.

The work, published Friday in the journal Science, is already spurring
other researchers to do similar research using other trace elements.

Iridium is a good signal for extreme events on Earth because, normally,
the material falls in a steady drizzle across the planet's surface. For
instance, a big spike of iridium from 66 million years ago signaled the
impact of a comet or meteor in what is now the Gulf of Mexico - a blast
that spelled doom for the dinosaurs.

The researchers suspected that dust falling on a so-called "Snowball
Earth" would have accumulated on ice sheets worldwide, including areas
near the equator. When the ice melted, the iridium would have been
carried by water into riverbeds and oceans, leaving unusually high
concentrations of the element.

Earlier estimates for the length of the snowball periods ranged from
several hundred thousand to 30 million years. Based on the amount of
iridium found at the bottom of a layer of glacial material, the Austrian
researchers determined that the glacial period that ended about 635
million years ago lasted at least 3 million but more probably about 12
million years.

Deposits of iridium from the earlier glacial period didn't land quite as
neatly among the glacial silt, which means, the researchers speculate,
that either the meltdown from that glacial period was spotty, or that
the ice didn't fully cover the oceans - a "Slushball Earth" situation.

Although there's still much debate about what caused the glaciers to
form in the first place - theories range from collisions with asteroids
to change in the tilt of Earth's orbit - the events are important
illustrations of how the planet regulates its temperature.

Scientists believe that the increasing ice cover over the globe bounced
more sunlight back into space, contributing to the freeze-up. However,
the tectonic plates continued to move under the ice, and volcanoes
continued to form and pump carbon dioxide into the atmosphere. With no
liquid water to absorb the carbon dioxide, eventually greenhouse
conditions developed, trapping heat and melting the ice rapidly.

Just what brought the global freeze-thaw cycle to an end is also
unclear. However, scientists do know that within 100 million years,
there was a dramatic change in life on the planet from primitive
single-celled forms living in the oceans to an abundance of complex,
multi-celled animals and plants in the sea.

Recent research around seafloor volcanoes and in modern icepacks makes
it clear that many exotic strains of bacteria could have easily survived
the "Snowball" episodes. Genetic evidence shows that the organisms that
lived through the glacial times were part of the oldest lines of life
forms on the planet.


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Re: [meteorite-list] The best of the wrongs!

[Meteoryt.net]

> Hey List, some of you might have seen this in person, but I don't think I
> have shared it with the list.  This is a crusted (looks like it anyways)
> wrong that had a lot of people thinking..
>  It has not been tested, but some real knowledgeable people said it is
not,
> while others were not so sure, but check out this crust like stuff
This
> is a red dry lake find.

Hi
Nice find but
1) too much holes inside
2) its not magnetic (i think)
3) this "crust" isn't real, becouse its not flat. I dont know how to say
this.

Anyway may be a good material to sell on ebay as new importand Lunar. So its
nice that this specimen was find by You, but not by Pround Tom for example
:)

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[meteorite-list] The best of the wrongs!

[Tom Knudson]

Hey List, some of you might have seen this in person, but I don't think I
have shared it with the list.  This is a crusted (looks like it anyways)
wrong that had a lot of people thinking..
 It has not been tested, but some real knowledgeable people said it is not,
while others were not so sure, but check out this crust like stuff This
is a red dry lake find.

 http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0860.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0861.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v609/peregrineflier/DSCN0862.jpg

Thanks, Tom
peregrineflier <><
IMCA 6168
http://www.frontiernet.net/~peregrineflier/Peregrineflier.htm
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[meteorite-list] Re: Wanted Gibeon slices

[meteoriteplaya]

Hi
I have a customer that is looking for some gibeon slices. They must be around 
2.5 mm thick. Let me know sizes and prices.
Mike
--
Mike Jensen IMCA 4264
Jensen Meteorites
16730 E Ada PL
Aurora, CO 80017-3137
303-337-4361
website: www.jensenmeteorites.com
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Gerald Flaherty]

Hey Jeff can I borrow that spanner(wrench)in the "Latest batch Of Glorietta 
Mt. meteorites pictured on that page?
Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:48 PM
Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 
2005


Hello Jeff, Michael, and List,
Thanks to Michael for posting these images and giving
us all an opportunity to see them and to discuss them.
And thanks to Jeff for sharing with us his great
webpage with those excellent images and the
well-thought explanation.
  In an article I wrote 2 years ago, I attempted to
explain why a similar feature that I found on an
oriented Glorieta Mountain iron had to be formed
during its fall.  An image of that Glorieta Mountain
iron with an impact crater can be seen here:
http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2003/January/Bob's_Findings.htm
I wonder if there have been "impact craters" found on
any other iron meteorites?
Bob V.
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Jeff Kuyken info at meteorites.com.au
Thu Apr 7 07:54:08 EDT 2005
G'day Graham,
It's an interesting question. There are a couple of
theories listed on the main page.
http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html
Cheers,
Jeff
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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Gerald Flaherty]

Grahm, Robert and List,
This has been one of the most refreshing threads I've had the pleasure of 
reading lately.
As a rank beginner, I had put away my stooping at every odd looking rock as 
more and more(ALL) proved terra!
So now I relearn from the experts that stooping is a good thing for mind, 
body and soul.
I'll divert my gaze once more from the possible bolide I may spy in the air, 
to the ground where treasures await the blessed!
Thanks for the free instruction.
Jerry Flaherty
- Original Message - 
From: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out 
there


Brother Bob, that is a fine specimen of probably exactly what I have and 
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one picking up every odd coloured rock 
and dragging it home. Thanks for showing that.

"And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock"
Haha! If only!
I can probably borrow someone's grinder maybe tomorrow or dig though some 
boxes and find my dremel tool to cut off a piece. I agree that it's hard 
to tell with a rough stone like that. Later this month a professor of 
martian geology at the University of Alberta is taking me on a tour of the 
meteorite collection there so I will take this rock along when I go and 
see what he thinks as well.

"Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't?"
Nope, I would imagine that you would be too busy being ecstatic about 
pulling off the impossible...again!

Oh well, all is not lost. I DID find a chunk of garnet today :-) (at least 
I think that's what it is)
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/garnet.jpg

Seeing as how it's 7 AM, I think it's about time I went to bed.
Goodnight all and happy hunting!
Green rock picker-upper 4 life,
Graham
~
Graham Christensen
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- Original Message - 
From: "Robert Verish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Meteorite-list Meteoritecentral" 

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:00 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there


Hello Brother Graham and List,
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg
As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.
And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg
Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe.
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.
As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)
It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".
Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?
Bob V.
--- Original Message 
[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
experts out there
Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005
Hello list
I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year when I picked it up along the side of the
road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
like my DAG 476
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
inside looks like but there are a couple chips
out of it and it looks about the same on the inside
with the green part being fine grained and the black
bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is
meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I
was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite
but of terrestrial origin.
Here is a pic of it:
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the
big rock is of course the rock in question.
I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area
since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it
but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada,
where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground
were brought down from various locations by the
glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck
dinner of geology up here.
I won't get my hope

[meteorite-list] AD - Best Offer Takes It - 18 items

[Greg Hupe]

Dear list members,
I am having another "Best Offer Takes It" silent auction for list members 
starting today and will end Tuesday, April 12th, 2005 at 11:00PM EST 
(Florida, USA).

Here are the descriptions and direct links to pictures (worth looking at 
even if you are not interested in making an offer):

NWA 482 Lunar Part Slice 360mg, 12mm x 9mm x ~1mm w/ crust
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc1.jpg
NWA 998 Nakhlite Part Slice (very few part slices due to fragile nature of 
this meteorite) 512mg, 10mm x 10mm x ~2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc2.jpg

NWA 1195 Shergottite Complete Slice 2.588 grams, 37mm x 35mm x .5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc3.jpg
NWA 1459 Olivine Diogenite Complete Slice 1.876 grams, 34mm x 27mm x .5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc4.jpg
NWA 1646 Cumulate Eucrite Complete Slice 16.9 grams, 67mm x 31mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc5.jpg
NWA 1648 Polymict Diogenite Complete Slice 32.4 grams, 68mm x 65mm x 3mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc6.jpg
NWA 1879 Mesosiderite Complete Slice with LARGE Crystals popping out of the 
side 59.1 grams, 59mm x 37mm x 10mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc7.jpg

NWA 2126 Polymict Eucrite Complete Slice 121.9 grams, 100mm x 93mm x 5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc8.jpg
NWA 2395 LL4 with Xenolith (Last One with Large xenolith) Complete Slice 
40.3 grams, 65mm x 45mm x 5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc9.jpg

NWA 2624 "Pallasite-Like" Ureilite MUSEUM PIECE with LARGE Translucent 
Phenocrysts Complete Slice 3.8 grams, 33mm x 33mm x 1.5mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00010.jpg

NWA 2696 Brecciated Howardite Individual 50% Crusted 687 grams, 120mm x 90mm 
x 45mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00011.jpg

NWA CV3 (most likely paired to NWA 3118) Individual 695 grams, 115mm x 70mm 
x 60mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00013.jpg

NWA 3128 LL3.8 with Xenolith (Last One with Large xenolith) Part Slice 20.1 
grams, 61mm x 40mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00015.jpg

NWA 3149 Brecciated Howardite Complete Slice 55.9 grams, 93mm x 66mm x 4mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00016.jpg
Dhofar 461 Lunar Impact Melt Breccia Complete Slice comes with Labenne COA 
2.35 grams, 39mm x 28mm x 1mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00017.jpg

Dhofar 908 Lunar Impact Melt Breccia Complete Slice comes with Norbert 
Classen COA 2.788 grams, 32mm x 20mm x 2mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00018.jpg

NEA 001 Lunar Anorthositic Regolith Breccia Complete Slice 2.8 grams, 31mm x 
29mm x 1mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00019.jpg

Park Forest L5 Individual found by "Dolly" the Dog, Signed Affidavit 
included by dog's owner 228 grams, 55mm x 45mm x 47mm
http://www.lunarrock.com/4-7/dsc00020.jpg

To place your offer(s) for any of these, please email me at 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and write your highest bid and description in your 
message. If I like the highest offer, I will accept it and these items will 
no longer be available so make sure you place the highest bid you are 
comfortable with.

I will email the person with the highest acceptable offer and make payment 
and shipping arrangements after the deadline has been reached.

Please keep in mind that all of these specimens look much better in person 
as it is very difficult to get actual colors at times.

I reserve the right to refuse any offer for any reason.
Best regards and have fun,
Greg Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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Re: [meteorite-list] Google Maps

[Martin Altmann]

Exist smth for free&online with a similar resolution like the terraserver
(gosh, I found my sister's car in Hupetown, Washington)  for the whole world
too?

Martin

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 7:20 PM
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> Oh, for Christ's sake, folks!   Y'all are looking at this whole Google
> Maps thing the wrong way.  Try this:
>
> ---===it's FREE===---
>
>meteorite-list

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[meteorite-list] Abundance and Diversity of Martian Meteorites from Northern Africa

[Adam Hupe]

Dear List,

Please check out the link below to graphically see the abundance and
importance of Martian meteorite finds from Northern Africa.  Northwest
Africa has truly been a treasure trove for the finding of important new
Martian material which is of the greatest scientific interest.  So far, this
year is bucking the trend with no new reported Martian meteorites.  I hope
to change this with a few promising specimens I will be submitting next
week.

It is interesting to note that while new finds are only 1/5th by weight of
what they were just a few years ago that more Martian meteorites have been
found indicating that the nomads are getting better at spotting these
rarities.  I feel a lot of these were ignored in the past because of the
lack of attraction to a magnet and sometimes there is no apparent fusion
crust.

Abundance and Diversity of Martian Meteorites from Northern Africa:
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/snc/snc_count.html

I hope you find this summary as interesting as I did,


Adam Hupe
The Hupe Collection
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Marc Fries]

Funny you should ask...

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/LPSC98/pdf/1839.pdf

Cheers,
MDF

> I wonder if there have been "impact craters" found on
> any other iron meteorites?
>
> Bob V.
>

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[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Robert Verish]

Hello Jeff, Michael, and List,

Thanks to Michael for posting these images and giving
us all an opportunity to see them and to discuss them.

And thanks to Jeff for sharing with us his great
webpage with those excellent images and the
well-thought explanation. 

   In an article I wrote 2 years ago, I attempted to
explain why a similar feature that I found on an
oriented Glorieta Mountain iron had to be formed
during its fall.  An image of that Glorieta Mountain
iron with an impact crater can be seen here:

http://www.meteoritetimes.com/Back_Links/2003/January/Bob's_Findings.htm

I wonder if there have been "impact craters" found on
any other iron meteorites?

Bob V.

 Original Message --
Jeff Kuyken info at meteorites.com.au 
Thu Apr 7 07:54:08 EDT 2005 

G'day Graham,
It's an interesting question. There are a couple of
theories listed on the main page.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html

Cheers,
Jeff


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Re: [meteorite-list] OT: Please dont...

[Michael L Blood]

on 4/7/05 12:52 AM, Lars Pedersen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I am deeply touched by your idea, but please don't 
> I find it easy to give, but very hard to receive.
---
It is wonderful you allow yourself the joy of giving. When you
refuse to receive, you deny someone the right and joy of giving. That
would be unfortunate.
 

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Re: [meteorite-list] Google Maps

[Gerald Flaherty]

WOW! Sterling, no comparision. Terraserver wins by a mile Jerry
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From: "Sterling K. Webb" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Google Maps


Hi,
   Google maps is fun, but not terribly useful.  I spent a quarter hour
trying to find Manacouagan crater, to duplicate Marc's view, with atlases 
at
my side to help me, but Google Maps refused to do it without my coughing 
up
its postal code.  Do craters have postal codes?
   I tried Google maps on my own house. I got a map, but no satellite view
-- unavailable says Google.  The locator pin icon for my house was in the
right street but in the wrong block of the street.
   I tried Google maps on my store, in another town. Again, I got a map, 
but
no satellite view.  Again, the locator pin icon for my store was in the 
right
street but the wrong block.  Obviously, Google is interpolating locations
from what is probably a postal-type database, without even cross-checking
adjacent block start numbers.
   I reduced the zoom scale and got a satellite view covering 16 square
miles, a great rolling sea of green Midwestern vegetation without a single
visible road, city, or any other mark of man's presence  --  it might as 
well
have been photographed in the year 1800!
   It's a pretty interface and makes a great rolling road map, but it's a
long way from being The Great Eye of God for us to access!  It does do a
fantastic job of finding the nearest pizza joint to any location, and 
that's
just what Google wants it to do.  That's what this is all about, you know.
   In the area around my store, there were many pin locator icons 
referenced
to other local businesses which were also listed on the side by name and 
with
phone numbers.  My business was not among them.  Hey, Google, where do I 
sign
up?  (And how much will it cost me?)
   TerraServer, on the other hand, is fantastic.  It managed to put my 
house
in the right block, even though at the wrong end of the block.  It showed 
me
a satellite view at highest resolution that showed a two block by two 
block
area in which I could see my house and count the windows, despite the 
fuzzy
grey low-contrast B&W aerial photo.
   It did the same for my store.  I tried it for my brother's house in
Louisville, Kentucky, and got a stunning color view with a resolution of
about 2-3 pixels per foot!  You could identify cars by year and model, 
count
mailboxes, and I could see a soccer ball in one of the front yards! 
Pretty
impressive.
   Here's Terraserver's view of the Meteor Crater in Arizona at medium
resolution:


   Try zooming in, and you'll get excellent high-resolution close-up views
right down into the crater. Count the rocks.
Sterling K. Webb
--
Marc Fries wrote:
Howdy
   Ok, this is pretty cool:
http://maps.google.com/
   Google has developed a seamless map database that cross-links to
satellite photos.  I scrolled this thing from Manacouagan crater to
Wetumpka crater, then out to Hawaii and "visited" my current home and
my mom's house on the way.  This is actually a pretty spectacular site
for locating physical landform features and cross-referencing them to a
road map.
   I can see my house from here!
Enjoy,
MDF
--
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Postdoctoral Research Associate
Carnegie Institution of Washington
Geophysical Laboratory
5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW
Washington, DC 20015
PH:  202 478 7970
FAX: 202 478 8901
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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Gerald Flaherty]

Nicely done Dave!!!
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To: "Graham Christensen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Robert Verish" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "meteorite-list" 

Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out 
there


Dear Bob, Graham,  and list;
I should entitle this thread "treatise on common colored stone".
Throughout my rock involved history, I have come to the  conclusion that 
picking up colored Earthly trinkets is extremely healthy for our physics. 
From the inquisitive child-like mind, we note the different and unusual. 
We strive to be different and in that, collect the different.  The mind of 
the collector, whether young and highly inquisitive, or mature and 
studious all tend to look for the odd, the different, the "non-normal". 
This thread of  daring has been the spark to inventors in our culture, 
that all apples are red, what's with the green one symbolism.
As we evolve to master scientists in our own amateur way, we all must not 
forget the pretty rock, the odd rocks that don't fit the mold, the mini 
cooper of the mineral world if you will as collecting non common specimens 
is a learning process for the mind.  Growing out from the norm, being 
meteorites in our minds eye, is added to by the excitement of an unusual 
specimen of a different nature.
It truly adds to our world of appreciation to hastily grab up that odd 
rock as if we were all self reserved to only collecting the norm, it would 
be a very boring and unstimulating world in deed.  It is always better to 
arrive home with special, unusual rocks than to return home empty handed 
from a day of searching for manna from heaven and to have arrive a little 
short with an empty sack.

Treatise your rocks with compassion!
Dave Freeman
Rock Springs, WY
Graham Christens wrote:
Brother Bob, that is a fine specimen of probably exactly what I have and 
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one picking up every odd coloured rock 
and dragging it home. Thanks for showing that.

"And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock"

Haha! If only!
I can probably borrow someone's grinder maybe tomorrow or dig though some 
boxes and find my dremel tool to cut off a piece. I agree that it's hard 
to tell with a rough stone like that. Later this month a professor of 
martian geology at the University of Alberta is taking me on a tour of 
the meteorite collection there so I will take this rock along when I go 
and see what he thinks as well.

"Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't?"

Nope, I would imagine that you would be too busy being ecstatic about 
pulling off the impossible...again!

Oh well, all is not lost. I DID find a chunk of garnet today :-) (at 
least I think that's what it is)
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/garnet.jpg

Seeing as how it's 7 AM, I think it's about time I went to bed.
Goodnight all and happy hunting!
Green rock picker-upper 4 life,
Graham
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:00 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there


Hello Brother Graham and List,
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg
As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.
And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg
Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe.
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.
As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)
It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".
Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?
Bob V.
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Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005
Hello list
I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year

Re: [meteorite-list] Google Maps

[Marc Fries]

Oh, for Christ's sake, folks!   Y'all are looking at this whole Google
Maps thing the wrong way.  Try this:

---===it's FREE===---

It will not locate each hair on your head or make the longer-lasting light
bulb, but it serves well as another tool in your cartographical toolbox. 
I've found it to be very useful for starting with an overhead view and
then reverting to a map, to serve as a starting point for a more detailed
site like Terraserver.  This is especially useful when you've got a site
without a street address, such as ...here we go again... Manacougan
crater!

Now, as an aside - I'm told that the nuclear test craters north of Mercury,
NV are quite striking.  Have a blast, so to speak.

Cheers,
MDF

-- 
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PH:  202 478 7970
FAX: 202 478 8901
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Gerald Flaherty]

I second that mightily!! Jerry
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2005


Hi, List, Michael and Jeff,
at first I reckon it's about time for me to thank Micheal for his never 
ending effords in keeping us up-to-date with the latest of interesting 
'Rocks From Space Picture of the Day' issues.
I can hardly imagine the time and work involved keeping us entertained.

So, THANKS A LOT, MATE! AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Also thanks to Jeff Kuyken for sharing THIS Sikhote Alin with us.
JUST TERRIFFIC, MATE. I ENVY YOU FOR THIS ONE!
Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
Norbert & Heike Kammel
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[meteorite-list] Benguerir individuals sale

[Jan Bartels]

Hi listees,

Last week we received over 2 kilos of Benguerir from Morocco.
Very fresh material! Mostly individuals with lots of fusion crust. One 480
gr. piece i kept for myself, the others will be for sale but will not be
on Ebay.
Here's what still have:
231 grams with about 15% crust.
268 grams with over 70% crust.
352 grams with 50% crust
And a stunning 720 grams piece (broken in half)with over 70% crust.

The 720 gram piece is $6.00/gram
The others will be for $ 7.00/gram.

If interested contact me off list for pictures.

Cheers,
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[meteorite-list] Re: Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Notkin]

http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April7.html
Excellent!
The "splash" effect around the pit is particularly pronounced. Nice 
photo Jeff.

I have a couple of Sikhotes with good impact pits -- one of my favorite 
meteorite collectables. I'll try to photograph them this week and send 
them along to Michael for his daily photo project, so we can compare  : 
)

Thanks for the cool picture.
Regards to all,
Geoff N.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Google Maps

[Sterling K. Webb]

Hi,

Google maps is fun, but not terribly useful.  I spent a quarter hour
trying to find Manacouagan crater, to duplicate Marc's view, with atlases at
my side to help me, but Google Maps refused to do it without my coughing up
its postal code.  Do craters have postal codes?
I tried Google maps on my own house. I got a map, but no satellite view
-- unavailable says Google.  The locator pin icon for my house was in the
right street but in the wrong block of the street.
I tried Google maps on my store, in another town. Again, I got a map, but
no satellite view.  Again, the locator pin icon for my store was in the right
street but the wrong block.  Obviously, Google is interpolating locations
from what is probably a postal-type database, without even cross-checking
adjacent block start numbers.
I reduced the zoom scale and got a satellite view covering 16 square
miles, a great rolling sea of green Midwestern vegetation without a single
visible road, city, or any other mark of man's presence  --  it might as well
have been photographed in the year 1800!
It's a pretty interface and makes a great rolling road map, but it's a
long way from being The Great Eye of God for us to access!  It does do a
fantastic job of finding the nearest pizza joint to any location, and that's
just what Google wants it to do.  That's what this is all about, you know.
In the area around my store, there were many pin locator icons referenced
to other local businesses which were also listed on the side by name and with
phone numbers.  My business was not among them.  Hey, Google, where do I sign
up?  (And how much will it cost me?)
TerraServer, on the other hand, is fantastic.  It managed to put my house
in the right block, even though at the wrong end of the block.  It showed me
a satellite view at highest resolution that showed a two block by two block
area in which I could see my house and count the windows, despite the fuzzy
grey low-contrast B&W aerial photo.
It did the same for my store.  I tried it for my brother's house in
Louisville, Kentucky, and got a stunning color view with a resolution of
about 2-3 pixels per foot!  You could identify cars by year and model, count
mailboxes, and I could see a soccer ball in one of the front yards!  Pretty
impressive.
Here's Terraserver's view of the Meteor Crater in Arizona at medium
resolution:


Try zooming in, and you'll get excellent high-resolution close-up views
right down into the crater. Count the rocks.


Sterling K. Webb
--

Marc Fries wrote:

> Howdy
>
>Ok, this is pretty cool:
>
> http://maps.google.com/
>
>Google has developed a seamless map database that cross-links to
> satellite photos.  I scrolled this thing from Manacouagan crater to
> Wetumpka crater, then out to Hawaii and "visited" my current home and
> my mom's house on the way.  This is actually a pretty spectacular site
> for locating physical landform features and cross-referencing them to a
> road map.
>I can see my house from here!
>
> Enjoy,
> MDF
>
> --
> Marc Fries
> Postdoctoral Research Associate
> Carnegie Institution of Washington
> Geophysical Laboratory
> 5251 Broad Branch Rd. NW
> Washington, DC 20015
> PH:  202 478 7970
> FAX: 202 478 8901
> -
> I urge you to show your support to American servicemen and servicewomen
> currently serving in harm's way by donating items they personally request
> at:
> http://www.anysoldier.com
> (This is not an endorsement by the Geophysical Laboratory or the Carnegie
> Institution.)
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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[David Freeman]

Dear Bob, Graham,  and list;
I should entitle this thread "treatise on common colored stone".
Throughout my rock involved history, I have come to the  conclusion that 
picking up colored Earthly trinkets is extremely healthy for our 
physics.   From the inquisitive child-like mind, we note the different 
and unusual.  We strive to be different and in that, collect the 
different.  The mind of the collector, whether young and highly 
inquisitive, or mature and studious all tend to look for the odd, the 
different, the "non-normal".  This thread of  daring has been the spark 
to inventors in our culture, that all apples are red, what's with the 
green one symbolism.
As we evolve to master scientists in our own amateur way, we all must 
not forget the pretty rock, the odd rocks that don't fit the mold, the 
mini cooper of the mineral world if you will as collecting non common 
specimens is a learning process for the mind.  Growing out from the 
norm, being meteorites in our minds eye, is added to by the excitement 
of an unusual specimen of a different nature.
It truly adds to our world of appreciation to hastily grab up that odd 
rock as if we were all self reserved to only collecting the norm, it 
would be a very boring and unstimulating world in deed.  
It is always better to arrive home with special, unusual rocks than to 
return home empty handed from a day of searching for manna from heaven 
and to have arrive a little short with an empty sack.

Treatise your rocks with compassion!
Dave Freeman
Rock Springs, WY
Graham Christens wrote:
Brother Bob, that is a fine specimen of probably exactly what I have 
and I'm glad to see I'm not the only one picking up every odd coloured 
rock and dragging it home. Thanks for showing that.

"And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock"

Haha! If only!
I can probably borrow someone's grinder maybe tomorrow or dig though 
some boxes and find my dremel tool to cut off a piece. I agree that 
it's hard to tell with a rough stone like that. Later this month a 
professor of martian geology at the University of Alberta is taking me 
on a tour of the meteorite collection there so I will take this rock 
along when I go and see what he thinks as well.

"Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't?"

Nope, I would imagine that you would be too busy being ecstatic about 
pulling off the impossible...again!

Oh well, all is not lost. I DID find a chunk of garnet today :-) (at 
least I think that's what it is)
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/garnet.jpg

Seeing as how it's 7 AM, I think it's about time I went to bed.
Goodnight all and happy hunting!
Green rock picker-upper 4 life,
Graham
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Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 6:00 AM
Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there


Hello Brother Graham and List,
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg
As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.
And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg
Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe.
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.
As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)
It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".
Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?
Bob V.
--- Original Message 
[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
experts out there
Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005
Hello list
I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year when I picked it up along the side of the
road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
like my DAG 476
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
inside looks like but there are a couple chips
ou

[meteorite-list] What is this?

[C. Giessler]

Hola, List,
i got something here and iÂm not sure about what it really is.
I donÂt think its a meteorite, but what is it, is it a pyrite nodule, 
like the list talked about a few weeks ago?
The crystals that are at one side of it look a bit similar. At the sides 
are some kind of lines.

Here are pictures:
www.gi-po.de/ebayfolder/liste/pyrr.htm
Cheers,
Carsten


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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Graham Christensen]

Brother Bob, that is a fine specimen of probably exactly what I have and I'm 
glad to see I'm not the only one picking up every odd coloured rock and 
dragging it home. Thanks for showing that.

"And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found my green rock"
Haha! If only!
I can probably borrow someone's grinder maybe tomorrow or dig though some 
boxes and find my dremel tool to cut off a piece. I agree that it's hard to 
tell with a rough stone like that. Later this month a professor of martian 
geology at the University of Alberta is taking me on a tour of the meteorite 
collection there so I will take this rock along when I go and see what he 
thinks as well.

"Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my "wrong" wasn't?"
Nope, I would imagine that you would be too busy being ecstatic about 
pulling off the impossible...again!

Oh well, all is not lost. I DID find a chunk of garnet today :-) (at least I 
think that's what it is)
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/garnet.jpg

Seeing as how it's 7 AM, I think it's about time I went to bed.
Goodnight all and happy hunting!
Green rock picker-upper 4 life,
Graham
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Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there


Hello Brother Graham and List,
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg
As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.
And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:
http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg
Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe.
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.
As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)
It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".
Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?
Bob V.
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[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
experts out there
Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005
Hello list
I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year when I picked it up along the side of the
road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
like my DAG 476
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
inside looks like but there are a couple chips
out of it and it looks about the same on the inside
with the green part being fine grained and the black
bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is
meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I
was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite
but of terrestrial origin.
Here is a pic of it:
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the
big rock is of course the rock in question.
I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area
since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it
but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada,
where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground
were brought down from various locations by the
glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck
dinner of geology up here.
I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind
copying Bob Verish
and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite
for a year!! :-)
Any comments are greatly appreciated
Graham
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RE: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[mark ford]

Nice pics.

A Classic illustration of why classification is so very important!

Especially with Martian and Lunar Material...

Best,
Mark 


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Subject: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out
there

Hello Brother Graham and List,

http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg

As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.

And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:

http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg

Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe. 
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.

As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)

It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".

Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?

Bob V.

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 [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
experts out there
Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net 
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005 


Hello list

I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year when I picked it up along the side of the
road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth 
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
like my DAG 476 
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
inside looks like but there are a couple chips 
out of it and it looks about the same on the inside
with the green part being fine grained and the black
bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is
meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I
was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite
but of terrestrial origin.

Here is a pic of it:
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the
big rock is of course the rock in question.

I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area
since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it
but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada,
where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground
were brought down from various locations by the
glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck
dinner of geology up here.

I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind
copying Bob Verish 
and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite
for a year!! :-)

Any comments are greatly appreciated
Graham

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[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Robert Verish]

Hello Brother Graham and List,

http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/2mars1not.jpg

As you can tell from the above image, Brother Graham
and I belong to the same fraternity - The Fraternal
Order of Green Rock Picker-Uppers.

And here is an "in-situ" image showing where I found
my green rock:

http://marzmeteorite.tripod.com/mars-rocks/MRF04996.jpg

Actually, Graham, my story is much shorter than yours.
I found my little shergo-not just last week, and only
a few miles from my backyard.  It was still sitting on
top of my monitor when I read your message and saw
your great looking image.  It prompted me to share my
image with you.  And, as in your image, I placed a
small slice of DaG 476 in front of my Mars-wannabe. 
For added effect, I placed a larger slice of the DaG
670 stone to the right of my m-wrong.

As a rule, I don't "hazard a guess" about a rock-type
based solely on an image.  Too many times I've had to
change my opinion about a rock-type after examining a
cut surface.  So, if you show me the inside of your
rock, I'll show you the inside of my rock!   ;-)

It's true.  I haven't cut my little rock, yet.  And to
be truthful, I haven't had it examined by an "expert",
so I can't say with 100% certainty that my rock is a
"shergo-not".

Wouldn't I be emabarassed if I was wrong, and my
"wrong" wasn't?

Bob V.

--- Original Message 

 [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology
experts out there
Graham Christensen voltage at telus.net 
Thu Apr 7 05:21:16 EDT 2005 


Hello list

I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since
last year when I picked it up along the side of the
road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth 
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat
like my DAG 476 
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of
green. I have yet to grind an end off to see what the
inside looks like but there are a couple chips 
out of it and it looks about the same on the inside
with the green part being fine grained and the black
bits are individual crystals. I doubt that it is
meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I
was wondering if it might be similar to a shergottite
but of terrestrial origin.

Here is a pic of it:
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the
big rock is of course the rock in question.

I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area
since I was a kid and I haven't seen anything like it
but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, Canada,
where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground
were brought down from various locations by the
glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind of a potluck
dinner of geology up here.

I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind
copying Bob Verish 
and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite
for a year!! :-)

Any comments are greatly appreciated
Graham

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Jeff Kuyken]

G'day Graham,

It's an interesting question. There are a couple of theories listed on the
main page.

http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/funkysa.html

Cheers,

Jeff


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How would that pit have been formed? By an impact in space or while it was
in the atmosphere? I would have thought that any external traces of impacts
in space would by erased by the ablation process.

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> http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April7.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

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How would that pit have been formed? By an impact in space or while it was 
in the atmosphere? I would have thought that any external traces of impacts 
in space would by erased by the ablation process.

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http://www.spacerocksinc.com/April7.html
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Re: [meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Martin Altmann]

Hi Graham,

looks like a case for John Divelbiss with his great Mars surrogate gabbros
for the not so wealthy collectors, who can't afford a slice of a
shergottite!

Buckleboo (it starts again...)
Martin

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>
> Here is a pic of it:
> http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
> The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the big rock is of
course
> the rock in question.

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[Gerald Flaherty]

Jeff that's the best duck-billed dinosaur meteorite I ever saw! Too bad 
someone had to shoot it in the eye!! Jerry
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - April 7, 2005

[ROCKS ON FIRE]

Hi, List, Michael and Jeff,
at first I reckon it's about time for me to thank Micheal for his never 
ending effords in keeping us up-to-date with the latest of interesting 
'Rocks From Space Picture of the Day' issues.
I can hardly imagine the time and work involved keeping us entertained.

So, THANKS A LOT, MATE! AND KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!
Also thanks to Jeff Kuyken for sharing THIS Sikhote Alin with us.
JUST TERRIFFIC, MATE. I ENVY YOU FOR THIS ONE!
Best regards from DOWN-UNDER,
Norbert & Heike Kammel
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[meteorite-list] What's this? -for the geology experts out there

[Graham Christensen]

Hello list
I've had this rock sitting on my kitchen table since last year when I picked 
it up along the side of the road while out for a walk. It is a fairly smooth 
green rock with black bits in it and it looks somewhat like my DAG 476 
shergottite but it's a slightly lighter shade of green. I have yet to grind 
an end off to see what the inside looks like but there are a couple chips 
out of it and it looks about the same on the inside with the green part 
being fine grained and the black bits are individual crystals. I doubt that 
it is meteoritic (there is no trace of fusion crust) but I was wondering if 
it might be similar to a shergottite but of terrestrial origin.

Here is a pic of it:
http://www.geocities.com/aerolitehunter/dag476andunidentified.jpg
The small slice in the forground is my DAG 476 and the big rock is of course 
the rock in question.

I have been collecting rocks on and off in this area since I was a kid and I 
haven't seen anything like it but that doesn't mean much. I live in Alberta, 
Canada, where most of the rocks you find lying on the ground were brought 
down from various locations by the glaciers of the last ice age so it's kind 
of a potluck dinner of geology up here.

I won't get my hopes up, but I certainly wouldn't mind copying Bob Verish 
and finding out I've been sitting on a mars meteorite for a year!! :-)

Any comments are greatly appreciated
Graham
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[meteorite-list] OT: Please dont...

[Lars Pedersen]

Hello List and specialy Maria
I got am email today, I dont know how it ends up on my computer, since it 
was not send to
me.

Please dont collect money.
I don't know how to express myself, without sounding ungrateful.
It has been really nice that so many people have expresses their sympathy.
For that I thank you all, from the bottom of my heart.
But I feel real bad about this, I am not about to go bankrupt.
I just had to sell some stuff to raise funds for taking time off.
I am deeply touched by your idea, but please don't 
I find it easy to give, but very hard to receive.
Please don't think I am ungrateful.
All the best
Lars
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