[meteorite-list] Rocks From Space Picture of the Day - December 19, 2005
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[meteorite-list] RE: OK - So, What, Where, When and How?
Resending from my home e-mail address -- the List is not accepting posts from my work e-mail address... --Rob -Original Message- From: Matson, Robert To: 'Gary K. Foote '; 'Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ' Sent: 12/18/2005 5:40 PM Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How? Hi Gary, > This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. > Y'all might feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, > methods, etc., and I'll understand if you do. But here goes... > 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where > would you consider the best known and most productive strewn fields? > [Details on how too] For new finds, your best hunting locations will be in the desert Southwest: Arizona, California, Nevada, New Mexico and Utah. More specifically, your greatest chance of finding a meteorite will be at some location where they've been found before. Search through the Meteoritical Bulletins of the last 4 or 5 years and you will see what I'm talking about. > 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer > it's settings? (I'll leave this question for others more qualified to answer; I have a metal detector, but I rarely use it.) > 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting > tool [not a post-find test tool]? For a new hunter, yes. As you get more experienced, less so. > 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? Can't say I've "invented" any special techniques -- mostly common sense stuff that you learn by doing. The most important factors for success are good research (to pick promising places to spend your search time), proper equipment (maps, GPS unit, camera for photodocumentation, etc.), patience and perseverance. > 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? Getting myself injured or killed. Safety cannot be overemphasized when it comes to meteorite hunting. Good search locations are often far from "civilization", so you need to have enough provisions to be self-sufficient in case of a mishap. Redundancy is the best way to avoid single point failures: two people are safer than one, two vehicles are safer than one, and a cell phone *and* 2-way radio beats having a cell phone alone. (Many desert locations have poor cellular coverage.) If possible when visiting a location for the first time, you should try to go with someone who has been there before (or at least ask for advice from someone who has been). You can get important pointers such as best approach routes, nearest places to get gas/food/water, info on any flora/fauna to be mindful of -- e.g. rattlesnakes, coyotes, scorpions, yahoos with guns --, and whether to expect cell phone coverage or not. If you end up on any dry lakes, get a good weather report before you go -- high winds can not only make for an unpleasant day, they can ruin your car's paint job and windshield. If rain is a possibility, you do not want to be caught on a playa far from the nearest exit in a downpour -- playa clay turns to gumbo when wet and becomes undrivable even with all-wheel drive. Good luck! --Rob __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Exploration Rover Update - December 16, 2005
http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/mission/status.html#opportunity OPPORTUNITY UPDATE: Robotic Arm Deployed - sol 668-674, Dec 16, 2005: Opportunity successfully deployed its robotic arm on sol 671 (Dec. 13, 2005) and used it to position the microscopic imager. The cause of a shoulder-joint motor stall during an attempt to deploy the arm on sol 654 appears to be a broken wire in the motor windings. The motor can still be operated by changing one of the parameters so that more current is delivered. However, the behavior is still being characterized, and stalls of the motor can still occur while the motor parameters are being adjusted. Analysis also continues for determining the best strategy for keeping the arm unstowed even when it is not in use, so that the arm could still position instruments on targets even if the motor with the broken wire becomes unusable. While parked at "Erebus Crater," Opportunity has completed a campaign of atmospheric science, with sky surveys, photometry observations at several times of day, and atmospheric observations with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. The rover also observed ground targets with the panoramic camera and the miniature thermal emission spectrometer. Sol-by-sol summaries: Sol 668 (Dec. 10, 2005): The team had planned some targeted remote sensing and atmospheric observations, but the plan did not get uplinked due to issues with ground servers. Sol 669: The uplink succeeded, and Opportunity performed targeted remote sensing and atmospheric observations. Sol 670: Early in the morning, the rover performed an atmospheric observation. Later in the day, some stares with the miniature thermal emission spectrometer were completed. Sol 671: Results of diagnostic tests of the robotic arm were consistent with the performance of a motor with a broken wire in one of the windings. The motor can be operated in this configuration by modifying motor parameters. By making the necessary changes, the arm was successfully moved out of its stowed position. The team planned a two-image-by-two-image mosaic with the microscopic imager and a reading with the Moessbauer spectrometer. The first half of the mosaic completed as planned, but the arm sequence was halted after that due to a stall of the shoulder-joint motor. Sol 672: Opportunity made atmospheric and photometric observations. Sol 673: The plan was to complete the microscopic-imager mosaic that was started on sol 671 and place the Moessbauer spectrometer on a target called "Williams." However, the shoulder-joint motor stalled once again. Targeted observations with the panoramic camera were completed as planned. Sol 674 (Dec. 16, 2005): After analysis of the sol 673 stall, the team redelivered a command sequence to close the microscopic imager's dust cover and to position the alpha particle X-ray spectrometer for an overnight integration on Williams. Opportunity's total odometry remains at 6,502 meters (4.04 miles). __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thunderous Sound Heard from Mississippi to Florida
http://www.wkrg.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WKRG%2FMGArticle%2FKRG_BasicArticle&c=MGArticle&cid=1128768768378&path=%21news%21local Strange Shaking Andrew Findley WKRG News 5 December 16, 2005 A mysterious force shook buildings from Pascagoula, Mississippi to Chumuckla, Florida Friday morning, but no one News 5 talked to knows exactly what caused it. Sometime between 9:00 and 9:30 am, a thunderous sound rumbled through the Gulf Coast. Not everyone felt it, but those who did all described it in much the same way. Ruthstein Woods in Eight Mile said, "I was laying in the bed watching TV and all of a sudden, it was like big boom, like the ceiling or something was like falling. I jumped up and ran and looked, and I looked outside, but I didn't see anything. It was like real, real shaking and stuff." Donny George in Midtown felt it, too. "It was more like a sonic boom. I questioned whether or not the space shuttle had come back into the atmosphere, because I'm from Florida. And when the space shuttle comes in there, it makes a sonic boom, rattles the windows," said George. He added, "It rattled the building, rattled the windows. I thought somebody had hit our building." It shook Harvey Smith as well. "I just heard a loud boom, I thought maybe some kind of sonic boom or something like an airplane breaking the sound barrier, or...but it shook my house. I still don't know what it was." People from as far away as Pascagoula, Mississippi to Flomaton, Alabama to Chumuckla, Florida called News 5 to tell us they heard and felt something. But because not everyone felt it, speculation rose from the ground to the air. Some suspected military aircraft causing sonic booms by breaking the sound barrier. But News 5 was unable to confirm whether it was a jet. So, the mystery and the speculation continue. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Record Year for Meteorite Recovery in Canada
http://www.ucalgary.ca/news/dec05/meteorite-dumpingground.html Record year for meteorite recovery in Canada University of Calgary Dec. 15, 2005 Manitoba becomes meteorite capital as Canada's most successful meteorite hunter proves meteorite "dumping ground" theory east of Winnipeg. The discovery of four new meteorites in 2005 makes it a record-setting year for recovering rocks from outer space in Canada and also confirms a University of Calgary scientist's belief that an extraordinary concentration of meteorites left behind after the last Ice Age is located in southeastern Manitoba. "Scientists have been collecting meteorites in Antarctica for more than two decades where glaciers have concentrated them along the edges of the continent. Many have postulated that the continental ice sheet that covered Canada might also have done this," said U of C planetary scientist Dr. Alan Hildebrand, co-director of the Prairie Meteorite Search. "That another meteorite was found with relatively little effort pretty much establishes that an unusual concentration of meteorites does exist in eastern Manitoba, and the continental glaciers are the obvious culprit to have put them there." After becoming the first Canadian to discover two separate meteorites last summer, Winnipeg-based rock collector Derek Erstelle has now shattered the Canadian record by locating fragments of weathered iron that the Prairie Meteorite Search has shown to be another new meteorite from the bush near the Ontario border. The discovery is exciting news for Manitoba's astronomy community. "We're obviously very excited about these meteorite discoveries, and we hope that this signals even more discoveries in the future," said Scott Young, manager of the Manitoba Museum's planetarium and science gallery. "Manitoba is under-represented in the meteorite game, so this is our chance to climb the meteorite ladder." Erstelle's latest find happened in October while he was testing Hildebrand's theory that his previous two meteorites were found relatively close together in the forest because the rocks dropped there when the glaciers that covered much of North America were retreating about 12,000 years ago. The third meteorite is a collection of heavily-rusted iron fragments that were found about 40 kilometres from Erstelle's previous two discoveries north of the town of Pinawa. "I try to mimic animal behaviour when I'm hunting," Erstelle said of his effective meteorite hunting technique. "For meteorite searching I sit up high like a raptor and scan the exposed gravel banks with binoculars for unusual rusty spots. Then I check each one to see if something unusual is there." He found the newest specimen on a gravel bar of the Whiteshell River just above where it empties into Lone Island Lake in the Whiteshell Provincial Park, about 100 km east of Winnipeg. The Lone Island Lake meteorite is the 8th meteorite to be discovered in Manitoba, the 9th meteorite identified by the Prairie Meteorite Search, and the 68th new meteorite to be recovered in Canada. Erstelle was able to recover about five kilograms of material after locating the crumbling remains of the meteorite with his metal detector. "The rusty meteorite was already breaking to pieces, but was triggering my metal detector. I dug to get additional pieces and eventually screened the gravel around where the pieces were to get all that I could," he said. Hildebrand, holder of a Canada Research Chair in Planetary Sciences, said he was initially skeptical Erstelle had found another meteorite. "Derek's recent discovery is very weathered, so much so, that when I received the samples that I didn't think that they were meteorites," Hildebrand said. "But I couldn't tell what type of rock they were so I cut one, and to my surprise found metal inside. We checked it with the microprobe and the metal contained nickel confirming its origin." In July, the Prairie Meteorite Search confirmed that two fragments of a meteorite Erstelle found about 40 kilometres away near Bernic Lake in 2002 were from a separate meteorite than a similar-looking specimen he collected near Pinawa in 1998 or 1999. Hildebrand determined that the rocks were found where two lobes of the ancient Laurentide ice sheet met about 11,500 years ago, providing an explanation for their remarkably close proximity. Hildebrand said further tests will be done to determine how long the rocks have been on Earth and to see if more meteorites can be found in the area. "If these meteorites fell on the ice sheet, they would have to have been on Earth for 12,000 years or longer," Hildebrand said, noting that Erstelle's latest find is very weathered, indicating that it fell to Earth long ago. "We now have to make a plan for the Prairie Meteorite Search to further investigate the region next summer and I expect Manitoba could well become Canada's pre-eminent meteorite province during 2006." Young is also hopeful more meteorites will be found in Manitoba nex
[meteorite-list] NASA: Stardust Won't Need Dustpan
http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_3320168 NASA: Stardust won't need dustpan By Katy Human Denver Post December 18, 2005 NASA is hoping - this time - for a softer landing. When the space agency tried bringing back stellar dust from more than a million miles away in September 2004, the capsule crash-landed in the Utah desert, its contents shattering into 15,000 pieces. This time, Stardust, carrying crumbs from a comet 242 million miles away, should drift gently down onto the Utah desert in the wee hours of Jan. 15. "Everybody is confident in what we've designed and built and tested," said Joe Vellinga, Stardust program manager for Lockheed Martin Space Systems in Jefferson County. "But everybody always worries about what we haven't thought of." Lockheed engineers designed and built the cometary explorer, and they also were responsible for Genesis, the ill-fated NASA spacecraft that hit Utah mud at about 200 mph 15 months ago. Colorado engineers installed four switches backward, preventing Genesis' parachutes from deploying to slow its descent, an investigation showed. Stardust's switches - and all other hardware - were installed correctly, Vellinga said. NASA spent an additional $10 million to confirm that, running tests on a mock-up of the spacecraft built with identical components, said Tom Duxbury, Stardust project manager with NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif. The agency also triple- checked the rest of the spacecraft's design, after the Genesis "mishap" and the 2003 space shuttle Columbia disaster, he said. "The only question is that it was built almost 10 years ago, and it's been in flight for seven years," Duxbury said. "There's no way to test some of those components." Stardust will hit Earth's atmosphere at 28,000 mph, faster than any spacecraft before, creating a fireball that may be visible from most of Nevada and Utah. In 2000, when Stardust was on its outbound voyage, a powerful solar flare damaged the spacecraft's star camera, used for navigation. Scientists fretted for five days before successfully rebooting the device. The cost of the Stardust mission - expected to be about $210 million including the extra analysis - is worth it, Duxbury said. "What we learn from this is about our own personal existence, possibly how we came to be," he said. Space scientists believe comets delivered water and organic chemicals to Earth billions of years ago, helping to create conditions that led to life. "All the stuff we're made up of is stardust," the NASA scientist said. Duxbury said that Genesis' hard landing actually increased his confidence that Stardust would be OK. The earlier mission hit exactly where NASA officials calculated it should, he explained, and the contents were not spread for miles across the desert floor - they remained inside the battered capsule. "We are smaller than Genesis, and structurally more sound," Duxbury said. "If we land hard, we're probably going to recover most, if not all, our science." For Genesis, the plan was to let the craft drift partway to Earth on parachutes, before it was to be snatched in mid-air by helicopters, Duxbury said. Genesis wasn't supposed to touch ground at all. Stardust, by contrast, is designed to land on the ground at about 10 mph, Duxbury said. If its parachutes don't open, it'll hit at 175 mph. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Definitely "undercover"! ;] From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dfreeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How? Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:44:18 -0500 Me? LEO? Not a chance. Just a newbie with a direct nature. Thanks for all you offered. It'll help me avoid a lot of mis-steps. It's sad that such a scientific endeavor has to follow so many rules in the pursuit of knowledge. Must be the dealer mentality. I'm just a new 'collector' interested in avoiding reinventing the wheel. Here's a pic of me with some friends. I'm next to last from the left with the grey beard. That's my wife CJ just to my left. Tell me if I look like LEO to you :) http://www.newenglandbikers.com/images/brothers-in-bristol.jpg Best, Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 18:33, dfreeman wrote: > Dear List; > What the heck, I'll give it a try! > Best spots to find a new find is where there are no or very few > terrestrial rocks now on the surface. Try areas of sand dunes, farm > fields of Kansas (where there aren't many earth rocks on the surface. > Areas of erosion surfaces are best in any areas as depositional areas > will bury your potential finds even deeper. > Best strewnfieldsFranconia, Gold basin come to mind first. > I like my GM-3 Whites but there are a number of pretty good models. > Prerequisite, spend more than $200, do not waste money on Radioshack > junk. Magnets are nice if mounted on a stick. One can touch the > suspected meteorite while it is on the ground instead of picking up > millions of pieces of meteorwrongs. Always take a second look at all > rocks with the appearance of fusion crust even if they aren't magnetic > (Yahoo! Dave uses old knowledge to properly use the term magnetic). My > favorite tool are my eyes. I can see much more easily than I can swing a > detector all day. I can cover 20 times the area in this method. I am > speaking of cold hunting, not the middle of an active strewnfield here. > Any techniques I have invented are soon to be patented, sorry. > Avoid at all costshunting on private property with out permission of > the owner. Court costs, bail, forfiture of any found meteorites and > possibly loosing your vehichle and equiptment come to mind. That and > lead poisoning. > > By asking so many questions, are you an officer of the law, or a > government official?? > It might be more helpful for you to read the list archives rather than > play 40 questions maybe. > DF > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > > >This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel > >proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll understand if > >you do. But here goes... > > > >1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you consider the > > best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] > > > >2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? > > > >3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find > >test tool]? > > > >4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? > > > >5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? > > > >Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. > > > >Gary > > > >__ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Thank you one and all
Dear Listers, I've really enjoyed this evening's chat, but it is now past my bedtime here in the frozen northeast. Time to hibernate for 8 hours. You have all been more than gracious hosts and I thank you for putting up with my boldness. Until tomorrow, when I will undoubtedly have more questions than a 10 year old in sex ed class. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite run
LMAO! All we need is to find the Hole in the Wall. Hahahah... Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 18:24, Thomas Uza wrote: > Gary, > > Why not get the whole crew together and organize a > Canyon Diablo meteorite run? You can drag magnets > behind your bikes. Get in and out fast and you might > skate clean. If security gets in your face administer > a chain beating or the punishment of your choice. Do a > little research first though. You might want to find a > nice desert hideout in advance or at least a place to > party in private after your successful crater raid. > > Take some names, > > Thomas > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorite run
Gary, Why not get the whole crew together and organize a Canyon Diablo meteorite run? You can drag magnets behind your bikes. Get in and out fast and you might skate clean. If security gets in your face administer a chain beating or the punishment of your choice. Do a little research first though. You might want to find a nice desert hideout in advance or at least a place to party in private after your successful crater raid. Take some names, Thomas __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Whoops - that's second from left from the POV of those in the pic - second from right as the camera sees it. Doh! Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 20:44, dfreeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm next to last from the left with > the grey beard. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
The former is on order. The rest are officially added to my list. Thanks Dave. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 18:51, dfreeman wrote: > If you don't have a copy of "Rocks From Space", get one. It will answer > 90% of all of your questions, then get Anne Black and the Jensan > Brothers "Meteorites, A to Z" and Kevin Kachina's new book "The Art of > Collecting Meteorites" and you will be well prepared to hunt, and > discuss meteorites. Your local library probably can get them on loan so > it would only cost third class postage even. > "The Bob Haag Collection of Meteorites" is a great color picture book. > These books are a must have for the serious meteorite hunter. > Dave F. > Get the Rocks From Space book by O.Richard Norton first...and be sure to > get Volume Two. > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > > >Me? LEO? Not a chance. Just a newbie with a direct nature. Thanks for > >all you > >offered. It'll help me avoid a lot of mis-steps. > > > >It's sad that such a scientific endeavor has to follow so many rules in the > >pursuit of > >knowledge. Must be the dealer mentality. I'm just a new 'collector' > >interested in > >avoiding reinventing the wheel. > > > >Here's a pic of me with some friends. I'm next to last from the left with > >the grey > >beard. That's my wife CJ just to my left. Tell me if I look like LEO to > >you :) > > > >http://www.newenglandbikers.com/images/brothers-in-bristol.jpg > > > >Best, > > > >Gary > > > >On 18 Dec 2005 at 18:33, dfreeman wrote: > > > > > > > >>Dear List; > >>What the heck, I'll give it a try! > >>Best spots to find a new find is where there are no or very few > >>terrestrial rocks now on the surface. Try areas of sand dunes, farm > >>fields of Kansas (where there aren't many earth rocks on the surface. > >> Areas of erosion surfaces are best in any areas as depositional areas > >>will bury your potential finds even deeper. > >>Best strewnfieldsFranconia, Gold basin come to mind first. > >>I like my GM-3 Whites but there are a number of pretty good models. > >> Prerequisite, spend more than $200, do not waste money on Radioshack > >>junk. Magnets are nice if mounted on a stick. One can touch the > >>suspected meteorite while it is on the ground instead of picking up > >>millions of pieces of meteorwrongs. Always take a second look at all > >>rocks with the appearance of fusion crust even if they aren't magnetic > >>(Yahoo! Dave uses old knowledge to properly use the term magnetic). My > >>favorite tool are my eyes. I can see much more easily than I can swing a > >>detector all day. I can cover 20 times the area in this method. I am > >>speaking of cold hunting, not the middle of an active strewnfield here. > >>Any techniques I have invented are soon to be patented, sorry. > >>Avoid at all costshunting on private property with out permission of > >>the owner. Court costs, bail, forfiture of any found meteorites and > >>possibly loosing your vehichle and equiptment come to mind. That and > >>lead poisoning. > >> > >>By asking so many questions, are you an officer of the law, or a > >>government official?? > >>It might be more helpful for you to read the list archives rather than > >>play 40 questions maybe. > >>DF > >> > >>Gary K. Foote wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. > >>>Y'all might > >>>feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and > >>>I'll > >>>understand if you do. But here goes... > >>> > >>>1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would > >>>you consider > >>>the best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] > >>> > >>>2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's > >>>settings? > >>> > >>>3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool > >>>[not a > >>>post-find test tool]? > >>> > >>>4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? > >>> > >>>5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? > >>> > >>>Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. > >>> > >>>Gary > >>> > >>>__ > >>>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Thanks Norm, Patience I have in abundance. Information soaks into my brain like a dry sponge in the rain - always has. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like I'm exactly in the middle of meteorite country here in NH's White Mountains, even tho it is a glacially carved land. Maybe in some of the riverbeds. H... I have a bunch or rare earth magnets and love to wander the rivers. Am I off track? I heard that glaciation often drops 'stuff' everywhere. In fact there's a boulder - huge mutha - that was moved from my town to the next one over during the last ice age. Do a Google on Madison Boulder. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 17:33, Norm Lehrman wrote: > Hey Gary, > > It looks like you're gonna keep us all busy! That's > fine--there's always room for enthusiasm. > > 1) Initially, go where they've been found before. > Even after years of hunting, such areas will still > offer quicker returns on your time than pioneering new > ground. > > 2) I also use a Fisher GoldBug-2, but be advised that > your eye can cover ground much faster. The metal > detector is only for known strewn fields where the > pieces are mostly buried. In Nevada dry lakes, the > meteorites tend to be on top and the background is so > "hot" that the metal detector is not a great tool. > > 3) The rare-earth magnet can be a very big deal. Me > and a buddy who knew NOTHING about meteorites went out > twice this week and found 32. While I was using > everything I knew about shapes, colors, and fusion > crusts, he was just checking ever suspect pebble with > his magnet wand. He found the first two! I adopted > his methods and began to score. As it turns out, this > particular strewn field involved a very low-level > explosion and the pieces are mostly sharply angular > and devoid of secondary fusion crust. > > 4) Nothing new, but hugely essential: vast patience! > If you can't wander around for hours on end without > positive reinforcement, this may not be your ballgame. > Learn to enjoy the scenery and if you find something, > that's frosting. My first find was years in coming > despite working in the field amost every day. A key > was buying up an assortment of NWAs (and anything else > you can afford) to help calibrate your eye. > > 5) Don't get impatient. Persist at all costs. The > thrill of that first find is way beyond what most > "normal" humans will ever experience! > > Cheers, > Norm > http://tektitesource.com > > > --- "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This might be a silly batch of questions regarding > > meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel > > proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, > > methods, etc., and I'll understand if > > you do. But here goes... > > > > 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the > > USA? Or where would you consider the > > best known and most productive strewn fields? > > [Details on how too] > > > > 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do > > you prefer it's settings? > > > > 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets > > helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find > > test tool]? > > > > 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to > > share? > > > > 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? > > > > Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. > > > > Gary > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Me? LEO? Not a chance. Just a newbie with a direct nature. Thanks for all you offered. It'll help me avoid a lot of mis-steps. It's sad that such a scientific endeavor has to follow so many rules in the pursuit of knowledge. Must be the dealer mentality. I'm just a new 'collector' interested in avoiding reinventing the wheel. Here's a pic of me with some friends. I'm next to last from the left with the grey beard. That's my wife CJ just to my left. Tell me if I look like LEO to you :) http://www.newenglandbikers.com/images/brothers-in-bristol.jpg Best, Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 18:33, dfreeman wrote: > Dear List; > What the heck, I'll give it a try! > Best spots to find a new find is where there are no or very few > terrestrial rocks now on the surface. Try areas of sand dunes, farm > fields of Kansas (where there aren't many earth rocks on the surface. > Areas of erosion surfaces are best in any areas as depositional areas > will bury your potential finds even deeper. > Best strewnfieldsFranconia, Gold basin come to mind first. > I like my GM-3 Whites but there are a number of pretty good models. > Prerequisite, spend more than $200, do not waste money on Radioshack > junk. Magnets are nice if mounted on a stick. One can touch the > suspected meteorite while it is on the ground instead of picking up > millions of pieces of meteorwrongs. Always take a second look at all > rocks with the appearance of fusion crust even if they aren't magnetic > (Yahoo! Dave uses old knowledge to properly use the term magnetic). My > favorite tool are my eyes. I can see much more easily than I can swing a > detector all day. I can cover 20 times the area in this method. I am > speaking of cold hunting, not the middle of an active strewnfield here. > Any techniques I have invented are soon to be patented, sorry. > Avoid at all costshunting on private property with out permission of > the owner. Court costs, bail, forfiture of any found meteorites and > possibly loosing your vehichle and equiptment come to mind. That and > lead poisoning. > > By asking so many questions, are you an officer of the law, or a > government official?? > It might be more helpful for you to read the list archives rather than > play 40 questions maybe. > DF > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > > >This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. > >Y'all might feel > >proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll > >understand if > >you do. But here goes... > > > >1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you > >consider the > > best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] > > > >2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? > > > >3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not > >a post-find > >test tool]? > > > >4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? > > > >5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? > > > >Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. > > > >Gary > > > >__ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)
Dear List, Ron; Your story sounds like you have found a rare Hollywood meteorite. DF Ron Kaye wrote: About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded in hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it charred to a radius of about 18". Having extensive experience in foundry science, I could ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic state upon impact, with sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface to a tapered rear edge. I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, except to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. Finally, a metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a metallic silica compound. This was surprising, since at that time, there were only a few places in the world with the capability of creating such a compound, and none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no explanation could be offered as to how it would come to be embedded in the ground with the perimeter charred. I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either e-mail or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind my finding it is pretty interesting, which has played a significant role in my keeping the piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with the story, as it has little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities leading up to the discovery. If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what the thing is, please ping me privately. Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening. Ron Kaye __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)
>From one relatively newbie to another it sounds like a Tektite - earth melted >upon impact and remelted after being thrown above the atmosphere and reenterning. Glassy in nature... You say it is oblong or at least has a tapered end? That is a regular feature of many tektites - formed by the aear-forces of reentry upon the plastic nature of the superheated earth. Now, let's hear the rest on this list rip me wrong. Ha! How about a picture? I'd love to see it. Best, Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 19:30, Ron Kaye wrote: > About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded in > hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it charred to a > radius of about 18". Having extensive experience in foundry science, I could > ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic state upon impact, with > sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface > to a tapered rear edge. > > I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, except > to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. Finally, a > metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a metallic silica > compound. This was surprising, since at that time, there were only a few > places in the world with the capability of creating such a compound, and > none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no explanation could be > offered as to how it would come to be embedded in the ground with the > perimeter charred. > > I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either e-mail > or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind my finding it > is pretty interesting, which has played a significant role in my keeping the > piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with the story, as it has > little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities leading up to the > discovery. > > If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what the > thing is, please ping me privately. > > Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening. > > Ron Kaye > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Dear List; What the heck, I'll give it a try! Best spots to find a new find is where there are no or very few terrestrial rocks now on the surface. Try areas of sand dunes, farm fields of Kansas (where there aren't many earth rocks on the surface. Areas of erosion surfaces are best in any areas as depositional areas will bury your potential finds even deeper. Best strewnfieldsFranconia, Gold basin come to mind first. I like my GM-3 Whites but there are a number of pretty good models. Prerequisite, spend more than $200, do not waste money on Radioshack junk. Magnets are nice if mounted on a stick. One can touch the suspected meteorite while it is on the ground instead of picking up millions of pieces of meteorwrongs. Always take a second look at all rocks with the appearance of fusion crust even if they aren't magnetic (Yahoo! Dave uses old knowledge to properly use the term magnetic). My favorite tool are my eyes. I can see much more easily than I can swing a detector all day. I can cover 20 times the area in this method. I am speaking of cold hunting, not the middle of an active strewnfield here. Any techniques I have invented are soon to be patented, sorry. Avoid at all costshunting on private property with out permission of the owner. Court costs, bail, forfiture of any found meteorites and possibly loosing your vehichle and equiptment come to mind. That and lead poisoning. By asking so many questions, are you an officer of the law, or a government official?? It might be more helpful for you to read the list archives rather than play 40 questions maybe. DF Gary K. Foote wrote: This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll understand if you do. But here goes... 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you consider the best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find test tool]? 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Newbie needs help identifying a meteorite(?)
About 30 years ago, I found a piece of metallic rock deeply embedded in hard-packed earth out in the woods, with the ground around it charred to a radius of about 18". Having extensive experience in foundry science, I could ascertain that the item had been in a semi-plastic state upon impact, with sand embedded in the face, and gas bubbles trailing along the outer surface to a tapered rear edge. I have had several geologists look at it, and none could identify it, except to determine that it was non-ferrous and had no nickel alloys. Finally, a metallurgist analyzed a small piece, and told me it was a metallic silica compound. This was surprising, since at that time, there were only a few places in the world with the capability of creating such a compound, and none anywhere East Texas, where I found it. And no explanation could be offered as to how it would come to be embedded in the ground with the perimeter charred. I have a couple of high-resolution scans of it, which I will either e-mail or post if anyone is interested in seeing it. The story behind my finding it is pretty interesting, which has played a significant role in my keeping the piece all these years. I won't belabor the list with the story, as it has little to do with meteorites, beyond my activities leading up to the discovery. If anyone on the list would be willing to help me determine just what the thing is, please ping me privately. Thanks in advance for any assistance, or just for listening. Ron Kaye __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Hi Gary and List From what I can see, the whole USA is wide open to exploration with the exception of private, gov, and tribal lands. I know that Kentucky has quite a few finds and falls, but no one has looked into potential strewn fields as such. Kentucky seems to be a place where hunting meteorites is mostly luck right now. But I feel that it could be a great place to hunt if done like the Native American artifact hunters and civil war hunters do their hunting. Especially in the "hills" that are the terminal moraines of the ice sheets. That guy in Manitoba has got the right idea! I also have permission to walk about a farm that edges up the Cumberland Falls State Park where there was a fall in 1919 and aside from the know pieces at the falls proper, there were a couple more fragments found within a mile or so on farms I guess. Mark Ferguson - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 7:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How? This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll understand if you do. But here goes... 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you consider the best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find test tool]? 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws
Methinks you are right - but the thrill of the hunt.. missing. :) Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 17:48, dfreeman wrote: > -might be much less hassle to just put an add to buy meteorites in the > Flagstaff paper DF > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > > >Gotta pick up at least a few pounds to make it worthwhile and keep > >itsomehow. lol > > > >Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
Hi Gary and all. #2 I prefer and use the Gold Bug 2 by Fisher. It will find an H5 of 5 grams and under all day long. I run it as sensitive as it will go and then turn the sensitivity back to 7. It goes to 10 but I normally don't run it on 10 unless I am digging very small stuff. The other thing I really like is that is so simple to use I never need to look at the controls, they are that simple. #3 I use a digging tool with three prongs on one side and a blade like a hoe on the other. Right up against the handle on the underside of the prongs I stick a 2 X 2 X 1/2 inch very powerful magnet. As I am digging a target it will stick as I am scratching around in the dirt. Meteorites and iron thrash both stick. So it makes the process much faster. Mike Miller // E-Bay flattoprocks Website // www.meteoritefinder.com Check out the web site it is up and running! Mike Miller 230 Greenway Rd. Kingman AZ 86401 - Original Message - From: "Gary K. Foote" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 5:48 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How? This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll understand if you do. But here goes... 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you consider the best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find test tool]? 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] micheal casper
So... how do you REALLY feel. :) Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 14:51, Michael Farmer wrote: > Michael Casper is a piece of human feces. He has > stolen more meteorites from dealers than anyone in the > world. That is why he got out of the business, he was > in physical danger. > He stole over $1000 on meteorites from me last Tucson > show, and I sued him in court and won my case. I still > have not seen one cent. Deal with Casper, you WILL get > burned. Many list members will tell you this, Notkin, > Cintron, Arnold, all of these people were his friend, > and he screwed them all. > Good riddence to that piece of filth. > Michael Farmer > > --- M come Meteorite Meteorites > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Michael Casper its go out from the meteorite world > > why > > its a thief and a liarhe never have pay the > > meteorites have buy from other persons. He have been > > to pay, and never pay, over $16,000 to my friend > > have > > give him 89 grams of DaG 489 year ago. > > > > Matteo > > > > --- "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > > > List I just aquired a mike casper meteorite > > > catalog,#6 of 2000 from when > > > he was selling meteorites.Why did he leave the > > > field?I never heard much > > > about him,except alot of bad things.Just wondering > > > with all those beauty's > > > he had why did he leave behind all those > > > treasures.Any info will be > > > helpful. > > > > > > > > > steve arnold, > > > chicago > > > > > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > > > > > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > > > > > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > __ > > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, > > ITALY > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it > > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com > > > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da > > 10MB > > http://mail.yahoo.it > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] OK -So, What, Where, When and How?
This might be a silly batch of questions regarding meteorite hunting. Y'all might feel proprietary about your personal hunting grounds, methods, etc., and I'll understand if you do. But here goes... 1.) Where would you go to seek out new finds in the USA? Or where would you consider the best known and most productive strewn fields? [Details on how too] 2.) What is your favorite metal detector and how do you prefer it's settings? 3.) Do you find the use of rare earth magnets helpful as a hunting tool [not a post-find test tool]? 4.) Have you invented any techniques you want to share? 5.) What would you avoid doing at all costs? Sorry, I love to stir the pot a bit. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Tokyo show
Hi again, have been so busy here in Tokyo, no time to respond to emails. Today is the last day of the show. It has been slow for many people, but very good sales for myself. The things that were selling last year are just siting this year, very odd market here. The meteorite dealers this year are Hans Koser, Me, Dirk Ross, Bruno and Carine, Bud Eisler, Dima and Yuri from Russia. I will be home on Thursday, the 22nd from Japan, and if anyone has any last second orders to place and any hope to have them delivered before Christmas, you obviously need to order now. Thanks Mike Farmer __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Bernd, Gary, listees, This page from Eric Twelker's site has a rough map of the distribution area. http://www.alaska.net/~meteor/CDinfo.htm Regards, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] micheal casper
Michael Casper is a piece of human feces. He has stolen more meteorites from dealers than anyone in the world. That is why he got out of the business, he was in physical danger. He stole over $1000 on meteorites from me last Tucson show, and I sued him in court and won my case. I still have not seen one cent. Deal with Casper, you WILL get burned. Many list members will tell you this, Notkin, Cintron, Arnold, all of these people were his friend, and he screwed them all. Good riddence to that piece of filth. Michael Farmer --- M come Meteorite Meteorites <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Casper its go out from the meteorite world > why > its a thief and a liarhe never have pay the > meteorites have buy from other persons. He have been > to pay, and never pay, over $16,000 to my friend > have > give him 89 grams of DaG 489 year ago. > > Matteo > > --- "Steve Arnold, Chicago!!" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ha scritto: > > > List I just aquired a mike casper meteorite > > catalog,#6 of 2000 from when > > he was selling meteorites.Why did he leave the > > field?I never heard much > > about him,except alot of bad things.Just wondering > > with all those beauty's > > he had why did he leave behind all those > > treasures.Any info will be > > helpful. > > > > > > steve arnold, > > chicago > > > > Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120 > > > > > > Illinois Meteorites,Ltd! > > > > > > website url http://stormbringer60120.tripod.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, > ITALY > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da > 10MB > http://mail.yahoo.it > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Fw: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws
Thank you Jack. Maybe my 'in' with the local PDnhere in Conway, NH will turn up a loophole. Worth a try anyway. If not - I was arrested for civil disobedience in the late 60s. Can't be much different than that. Ooops - did I write that publicly??? Ha! Best, Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 14:54, Jack Schrader wrote: > > > > >From: "Jack Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Jack Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws > >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:52:50 -0700 > > > >This is an excellent post to the list made in June of this year by Mark > >Bostick. If you are considering trying to hunt this area, Please read this > >information very carefully. This is Arizona Law. If you look at a map of > >the area, you will discover that only a small area surrounding the crater > >is Barringer property. The surrounding area is predominately State Trust > >Land and Meteor Crater Ranch land. The Meteor Crater Security people, the > >Game Warden who lives to the west of the crater and the people at Meteor > >Crater Ranch are all sternly opposed to meteorite hunting on any of this > >property, private, State Trust or Barringer Property and will report you to > >the Coconino County Sheriff for arrest. This is a fact! There are safer, > >more relaxing and more fun areas in Arizona to hunt for meteorites!try > >Franconia where H and LL finds are still being made or Gold Basin which > >will never be hunted out entirely. Best wishes to all for a safe and Happy > >Holiday Season, Jack > >- Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:57 PM > >Subject: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws > > > > > >>Hello all, > >> > >>The comments below and not from me, but it came from a very good source, > >>that has spent years hunting in and around Arizona. Name is withheld at > >>request. > >> > >>Perhaps it is Federal Land that allows for the removing of some minerals? > >>I remember reading permit notice that allowed for removing of petrified > >>wood and as I noted before, "non-renewable" minerals. Obviously, one > >>could not take meteorites from Federal landbut perhaps impactite and > >>other like items. > >> > >>Clear Skies, > >>Mark Bostick > >> > >> > >> As you know all the land around the crater is either private or state > >>land. All Arizona State land is State Trust Land even if there is not sign > >>stating it is. Many popular places for people to get on the land there are > >>signs so stating it is State Trust Land, but more is not marked. If you > >>get on the internet and bring up Arizona State Laws and go ot Title 12, > >>Chapter 5 and R12-5-533 'Trespass on State Land' you will read about the > >>laws about trepassing on State Land. Besides having a hunting or fishing > >>permit allowing you to go on state land for those purposes a person can > >>buy a recreational permit for about $20 per year. I am going to type below > >>some of what the permit says. > >> > >> Examples of permitted recreational activities allowed on State Land: > >>hiking, horseback riding,picnics, family reunions, bicycling, > >>photographing, sightseeing, birdwatching, organized club event, etc. > >>Camping is restricted to no more than 5 days. > >> > >>Examples of activities NOT ALLOWED under the state permit on State > >>land: off-highway vehicle use, rallies, races or cross-country > >>travel(including 3 wheeled or similar type vehicles, motorcycles, sand > >>rails, go-carts, dune buggies, all terrain vehicles etc.). Target shooting > >>(firearm, archery, etc.), paint ball games, fireworks, non-recreational or > >>extended camping, commercial recreational activities or events where a > >>participation fee is charged (i.e. hot air balloon rides, jeep tours, > >>hayrides, horseback rides, bicycle races, horse races, ultralight > >>aircraft, etc.) and tours or other activities involving visitation of > >>prehistoric or historic archaeological sites.METAL DETECTORS TO SEARCH FOR > >>ARTIFACTS, RELICS, OR TREASURES ON STATE LAND OR AROUND PREHISTORIC, > >>HISTORIC, ARCHAELOLOGICAL, OR CULTURAL SITES ON STATE LAND IS PROHIBITED. > >> > >>THIS PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE COLLECTION OR REMOVAL ANY ANY NATURAL > >>PRODUCTS FROM STATE LAND INCLUDING ROCKS, FOSSILS, MINERAL SPECIMENT, > >>STONE, SOIL, FIREWOOD, CACTI, SAGUARO OR CHOLLA SKELETONS OR OTHER PLANTS > >>OR PLANT MATERIAL, EITHER DEAD ALIVE OR DEAD. > >> > >>I believe those parts I put in caps really explains the reason that the > >>state can keep someone from hunting around the crater since one will not > >>get the permission from the private land owners either. > >> > >>I hope the above clears up some of the questions being asked about hunting > >>around the crater. > >> > >> > >>__ > >>Meteorite-list mailing list > >>Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >>http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/met
Fw: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws
From: "Jack Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jack Schrader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Fw: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:52:50 -0700 This is an excellent post to the list made in June of this year by Mark Bostick. If you are considering trying to hunt this area, Please read this information very carefully. This is Arizona Law. If you look at a map of the area, you will discover that only a small area surrounding the crater is Barringer property. The surrounding area is predominately State Trust Land and Meteor Crater Ranch land. The Meteor Crater Security people, the Game Warden who lives to the west of the crater and the people at Meteor Crater Ranch are all sternly opposed to meteorite hunting on any of this property, private, State Trust or Barringer Property and will report you to the Coconino County Sheriff for arrest. This is a fact! There are safer, more relaxing and more fun areas in Arizona to hunt for meteorites!try Franconia where H and LL finds are still being made or Gold Basin which will never be hunted out entirely. Best wishes to all for a safe and Happy Holiday Season, Jack - Original Message - From: "MARK BOSTICK" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 5:57 PM Subject: [meteorite-list] Arizona State Hunting Laws Hello all, The comments below and not from me, but it came from a very good source, that has spent years hunting in and around Arizona. Name is withheld at request. Perhaps it is Federal Land that allows for the removing of some minerals? I remember reading permit notice that allowed for removing of petrified wood and as I noted before, "non-renewable" minerals. Obviously, one could not take meteorites from Federal landbut perhaps impactite and other like items. Clear Skies, Mark Bostick As you know all the land around the crater is either private or state land. All Arizona State land is State Trust Land even if there is not sign stating it is. Many popular places for people to get on the land there are signs so stating it is State Trust Land, but more is not marked. If you get on the internet and bring up Arizona State Laws and go ot Title 12, Chapter 5 and R12-5-533 'Trespass on State Land' you will read about the laws about trepassing on State Land. Besides having a hunting or fishing permit allowing you to go on state land for those purposes a person can buy a recreational permit for about $20 per year. I am going to type below some of what the permit says. Examples of permitted recreational activities allowed on State Land: hiking, horseback riding,picnics, family reunions, bicycling, photographing, sightseeing, birdwatching, organized club event, etc. Camping is restricted to no more than 5 days. Examples of activities NOT ALLOWED under the state permit on State land: off-highway vehicle use, rallies, races or cross-country travel(including 3 wheeled or similar type vehicles, motorcycles, sand rails, go-carts, dune buggies, all terrain vehicles etc.). Target shooting (firearm, archery, etc.), paint ball games, fireworks, non-recreational or extended camping, commercial recreational activities or events where a participation fee is charged (i.e. hot air balloon rides, jeep tours, hayrides, horseback rides, bicycle races, horse races, ultralight aircraft, etc.) and tours or other activities involving visitation of prehistoric or historic archaeological sites.METAL DETECTORS TO SEARCH FOR ARTIFACTS, RELICS, OR TREASURES ON STATE LAND OR AROUND PREHISTORIC, HISTORIC, ARCHAELOLOGICAL, OR CULTURAL SITES ON STATE LAND IS PROHIBITED. THIS PERMIT DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE COLLECTION OR REMOVAL ANY ANY NATURAL PRODUCTS FROM STATE LAND INCLUDING ROCKS, FOSSILS, MINERAL SPECIMENT, STONE, SOIL, FIREWOOD, CACTI, SAGUARO OR CHOLLA SKELETONS OR OTHER PLANTS OR PLANT MATERIAL, EITHER DEAD ALIVE OR DEAD. I believe those parts I put in caps really explains the reason that the state can keep someone from hunting around the crater since one will not get the permission from the private land owners either. I hope the above clears up some of the questions being asked about hunting around the crater. __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Thanks for the link Ken. It'll take some time to read thru all the links there - not complaining. I love to read this stuff. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 16:25, ken newton wrote: > > Gary, > There are other places to hunt. > Perhaps you may enjoy this link to field reports? > http://imca.repetti.net/metinfo/fieldreports.html > best, > Ken Newton > > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > Thank you for the info Bernd. I want to do it right and legally, so have > contacted > local authorities. There must be a way... > > Gary > > On 18 Dec 2005 at 21:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hello Gary and List, > > "Interesting - they let them keep their finds." > > Gary, if I were you, I wouldn't count on that. Thomas was just lucky they > did not > search his/their pockets!" But if you should go there and try your luck > (be careful, > please and do not let your passion for meteorites carry you away!), it > will be of > interest that the area where the highest concentration of Canon Diablo > meteorites > occurred is the area in the northeast quadrant that extends directly from > the crater > rim to about 3/4 of a mile from the crater (mostly smaller pieces). > > Larger chunks were found in the southeast quadrant about 1 1/2 to 2 miles > away from > the crater rim and another one three to four miles away from the crater > rim in a small > area about 45° south of east (or 45° east of south). > > > Cheers, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-3: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Hi Moni and List, "Maybe its shale (?) that he found, that was another idea I heard. Bernd have you seen them?" No, I haven't but, you are right, a lot of the fragments found in the NE quadrant adjacent to the crater rim, were shale pieces. Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
I totally agree with Bernd that Thomas was very lucky indeed to have been able to keep them and first of all very lucky to have found some. As I understood from previous posts, I thought it was very hard to find some at all. Maybe Thomas can add to this when he sees the posts. Maybe its shale (?) that he found, that was another idea I heard. Bernd have you seen them? I believe the best to do is what Gary has in mind, ask the ranger or whoever is responsible for the Barringer Crater. Its pouring and thundering in Sacramento, Wish they were meteorites and sonic booms! ;-) Moni From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area Date: 18 Dec 2005 21:15:18 UT Hello Gary and List, "Interesting - they let them keep their finds." Gary, if I were you, I wouldn't count on that. Thomas was just lucky they did not search his/their pockets!" But if you should go there and try your luck (be careful, please and do not let your passion for meteorites carry you away!), it will be of interest that the area where the highest concentration of Canon Diablo meteorites occurred is the area in the northeast quadrant that extends directly from the crater rim to about 3/4 of a mile from the crater (mostly smaller pieces). Larger chunks were found in the southeast quadrant about 1 1/2 to 2 miles away from the crater rim and another one three to four miles away from the crater rim in a small area about 45° south of east (or 45° east of south). Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Thank you for the info Bernd. I want to do it right and legally, so have contacted local authorities. There must be a way... Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 21:15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hello Gary and List, > > "Interesting - they let them keep their finds." > > Gary, if I were you, I wouldn't count on that. Thomas was just lucky they did > not > search his/their pockets!" But if you should go there and try your luck (be > careful, > please and do not let your passion for meteorites carry you away!), it will > be of > interest that the area where the highest concentration of Canon Diablo > meteorites > occurred is the area in the northeast quadrant that extends directly from the > crater > rim to about 3/4 of a mile from the crater (mostly smaller pieces). > > Larger chunks were found in the southeast quadrant about 1 1/2 to 2 miles > away from > the crater rim and another one three to four miles away from the crater rim > in a small > area about 45° south of east (or 45° east of south). > > > Cheers, > > Bernd > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re-2: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Hello Gary and List, "Interesting - they let them keep their finds." Gary, if I were you, I wouldn't count on that. Thomas was just lucky they did not search his/their pockets!" But if you should go there and try your luck (be careful, please and do not let your passion for meteorites carry you away!), it will be of interest that the area where the highest concentration of Canon Diablo meteorites occurred is the area in the northeast quadrant that extends directly from the crater rim to about 3/4 of a mile from the crater (mostly smaller pieces). Larger chunks were found in the southeast quadrant about 1 1/2 to 2 miles away from the crater rim and another one three to four miles away from the crater rim in a small area about 45° south of east (or 45° east of south). Cheers, Bernd __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Interesting - they let them keep their finds. I would think that - by now - it would be much like the petrified forest - totally off limits to keeping anything. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 12:36, moni Waiblinger-Seabridge wrote: > Hi Everyone, > > remember this post? > > http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg35720.html > > Thomas is the moderator for the German meteorite list. > > Happy Sunday, :-) > Moni > > > > > >From: dfreeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area > >Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:04:44 -0700 > > > >Dear Gary, > >I bet the sheriff of the area knows and would be happy to offer > >information. I think he has been out there a number of times to collect > >collectors. > >Dave F. > > > >Gary K. Foote wrote: > > > >>Anyone know how wide an area this ban covers? > >> > >>Gary > >> > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Hi Everyone, remember this post? http://www.mail-archive.com/meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com/msg35720.html Thomas is the moderator for the German meteorite list. Happy Sunday, :-) Moni From: dfreeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:04:44 -0700 Dear Gary, I bet the sheriff of the area knows and would be happy to offer information. I think he has been out there a number of times to collect collectors. Dave F. Gary K. Foote wrote: Anyone know how wide an area this ban covers? Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Barringer Ban
I have emailed the following to the Chief of Police in Flagstaff. - I am a meteorite collector [private - not a dealer]. I was at Barringer Crater in the 50s and have always wanted to go back to look for specimens. I understand there is a ban on such activities. Can you tell me what area the ban covers and how and where I can go about seeking Barringer remnants legally? - We'll see what he says. Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Ha! That's an answer I hadn't thought of. I'll look for an email addy for him and report back here. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 13:04, dfreeman wrote: > Dear Gary, > I bet the sheriff of the area knows and would be happy to offer > information. I think he has been out there a number of times to collect > collectors. > Dave F. > > Gary K. Foote wrote: > > >Anyone know how wide an area this ban covers? > > > >Gary > > > >__ > >Meteorite-list mailing list > >Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > >http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > > > > > > __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Dear Gary, I bet the sheriff of the area knows and would be happy to offer information. I think he has been out there a number of times to collect collectors. Dave F. Gary K. Foote wrote: Anyone know how wide an area this ban covers? Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Barringer Ban Area
Anyone know how wide an area this ban covers? Gary __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] TODAY - Chait Natural History Auction Today
Greetings List: TODAY AT 1.00p PST I.M. CHAIT NATURAL HISTORY AUCTION METEORITE LOTS: http://www.macovich.com/chait-auction.html AUCTION INFO AND ABSENTEE BIDDING: http://www.chait.com/cgi-bin/main.pl For additional info call: 310.285.0182 or 800.775.5020 __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list: Puente-Ladron
Charlie wrote: "Now if I could just find my copy, I could read about it." Hi Charlie and List, .. and just in case you don't :-) MARVIN U.B. (1993) The Puente-Ladron chondrite (Meteoritics 28-3, 1993, 269-270): In the October, 1944, issue of the Contributions, Nininger announced his discovery of a tiny 7.7-g chondrite he found near a spot where he stopped by the road to eat his lunch on a windswept sandy-clay flat in Socorro County, New Mexico. He named it the Puente- Ladron meteorite and marked the site with a pile of stones. Nininger reasoned that this small stone was probably part of a shower and encouraged everyone interested in doing so to search the area for more pieces. He requested that accurate notes be kept of find- sites and that any additional specimens be sent to him for comparison with his own, after which they would promptly be returned. In the February, 1946, issue of CSRM, LaPaz remarked that artifacts were common in that part of New Mexico and that unless it could be shown that the Puente-Ladron stone had not been transported to the area by an Indian who discarded or lost it there, a search would not be justified (LaPaz, 1946a). The April issue carried an article by Claude H. Smith (1946), of Geneva, New York, who reminded readers that the discovery of a new stony meteorite by a student of meteorites was well-nigh unique in the annals of meteoritics. He doubted that the little stone, which was originally described as strongly resembling the dark pebbles liberally strewn about the area, was sufficiently distinctive to attract the attention of an Indian unless he saw it fall. Furthermore, if it had lain where it was found since Indians in any great numbers occupied the area, it should have been much more weathered than it was. Smith argued that the main facts were against the possibility that it had been carried to the area by an Indian and that searches for more stones should be made in the area. In August, LaPaz (1946b) responded that certain remarks published under the name of Claude H. Smith could not pass unchallenged. Indians were known to have carried meteorites about with them. Indeed, Nininger himself had reported finding four stony meteorites at Indian campsites in Kansas and eastern Colorado. That Indians were very sharp-eyed observers who could distin- guish between materials that looked similar was shown by the presence in the Puente-Ladron area of arrowheads and other points made from very small pebbles and spalls of obsidian. LaPaz described the high winds and sandstorms, which could quickly cover or uncover the surface of the area, making invalid all assumptions about the weathering of any one specimen. He reported that a University of New Mexico anthropologist, knowledgeable about meteorites, had looked for them there without success during field surveys in the region. LaPaz found the area to be unpropitious for meteorite hunting and advised all who were interested in such a pursuit to go to the plains around the Barringer Crater. Finally, LaPaz pointed out that Dr. H.H. Nininger himself must lack faith in his own advice, because he had failed to include the Puente-Ladron area on a list he sent to LaPaz in April, 1946, of New Mexico localities in which he planned to continue field programs. His tone suggests that LaPaz may have suspected "Claude H. Smith" to be a pseudonym for Nininger himself; however, Claude H. Smith of Geneva, New York, joined the Society in 1955. Nininger (1947a) delivered a rejoinder at the 1946 meeting of the Society. He observed that his attempt to give a "break" to would-be meteorite finders had developed into an argument about how his specimen got where he found it. He customarily searched his findsites for evidence of human occupation and had found none nearby. The specimen showed no effects of handling nor of sandblasting. He commented that meteorite hunting requires a lot of patience, but the least fruitful occupation is that of figuring out why none can be found. Nininger suggested that amateurs have spent more searching time between finds at the Barringer Crater than had been spent by all concerned at Puente-Ladron. Following Nininger's paper, Lincoln LaPaz (1947) published what he announced as the final remarks on Puente-Ladron. He said that as a member of the Society's Committee on Publications he had been given the opportunity to read the preceding paper prior to its publication. The manuscript was listed as "N," and so, throughout his own paper, he referred to Nininger as "the author of N." He restated his position, argued against N's statement regarding hunting for specimens of Canyon Diablo, and, in conclusion, pointed out that Puente-Ladron had long enjoyed the dubious distinction of being the least examined of meteorites of uncertain identity. With the appearance of N and the present critique Puente-Ladron now achieved a second questionable distinction: that of being the met
Re: [meteorite-list] micheal casper
I spoke with Michael for the first time on the phone a couple of weeks ago. He gave no indication he was 'out' of the M-biz. Didn't return my call nor either of my emails since. Seems like he can't sit still for a moment, eh? I pray your friend will see some return from Michael some day. Gary On 18 Dec 2005 at 8:48, M come Meteorite Meteorites wrote: > In July of 2000, Michael sold 90% of his meteorite > inventory and his meteorite website for several > million dollars. Within two weeks of this sale, he was > back with an old love . . . Morgan Silver Dollars. > > hahhahahamilions of dollarswell, where is the > money he have to give to my friend? Never seen > > Matteo > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto: > > > Hola Steve, > > > > Probably because you can make a lot more money > > selling coins than with > > meteorites, and he was in it for the business angle > > and the love for Morgan Silver > > Dollars. Meteorites are speculative, while coins > > can be a great business as > > eBay's biggest listmember. You can lose your butt > > just as quickly as make a > > few hundred. No price guides and everyone has his > > opinion in the business. > > I believe the business term would be: meteorites > > are not as liquid as > > coins. So we have a special affliction...but you > > knew that! > > > > Read about Michael from the horse's mouth: > > > > > http://www.caspercoin.com/about.php?PHPSESSID=7b2fd82d716fd6e07191778669902bda > > > > Holiday wishes, Doug > > > > In a message dated 12/17/2005 4:58:30 P.M. Eastern > > Standard Time, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > List I just aquired a mike casper meteorite > > catalog,#6 of 2000 from when > > he was selling meteorites.Why did he leave the > > field?I never heard much > > about him,except alot of bad things.Just wondering > > with all those beauty's > > he had why did he leave behind all those > > treasures.Any info will be > > helpful. > > > > > > steve arnold, chicago > > > > __ > > Meteorite-list mailing list > > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > > > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > > > > > M come Meteorite - Matteo Chinellato > Via Triestina 126/A - 30030 - TESSERA, VENEZIA, ITALY > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sale Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.it > Collection Site: http://www.mcomemeteorite.info > MSN Messanger: spacerocks at hotmail.com > EBAY.COM:http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mcomemeteorite/ > > > > > > > ___ > Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB > http://mail.yahoo.it > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
I want to thank Robert Woolard for answering my question regarding the only previously unknown meteorite actually field collected by Nininger. It was Puente-Ladron, an L chondrite of 7.673 grams which Nininger picked up near a bridge over the Puerco River, 10 miles from Ladron Peak, in Socorro Co, New Mexico, on 17th May, 1944. Nininger describes the discovery on page 143 of Find a Falling Star. Now if I could just find my copy, I could read about it:-) Thanks again Robert! Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites in commercials
Hi List, Stephan, thanks for this, I can use it in my class. Just saw one last night for trash bags (the flexible ones). I will have to see if they have a link for it on the web. Larry Lebofsky Quoting Stefan Brandes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi list, > > nice commercial of the new PEBL mobile from Motorola. > > The link to download the spot: (not the best quality, but worth seeing it) > > http://offline.hbpl.co.uk//BrandRepublic/creative/xtreme/movies/Motorola_PEBL.m pg > > The perfect christmas gift :) > at least for us met-guys, don´t you think. > > Merry Christmas, > and greetings from Austria > > Stefan Brandes > > > __ > Meteorite-list mailing list > Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com > http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list > -- Senior Research Scientist Co-editor, Meteorite "If you give a man a fish, Lunar and Planetary Laboratory you feed him for a day. 1541 East University If you teach a man to fish, University of Arizonayou feed him for a lifetime." Tucson, AZ 85721-0063 ~Chinese Proverb Phone: 520-621-6947 FAX:520-621-8364 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite finder list
Al, I can't find my copy of "Find a Falling Star" :-( But in that book Nininger describes the one and only time he, purely by chance, surface collected a previously unknown meteorite. As I recall, it was a very small chondrite. If you can find that passage, or if someone else can find where he describes that chance find, please post it to the list if possible. Thanks, Charlie __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] meteorites in commercials
Hi list, nice commercial of the new PEBL mobile from Motorola. The link to download the spot: (not the best quality, but worth seeing it) http://offline.hbpl.co.uk//BrandRepublic/creative/xtreme/movies/Motorola_PEBL.mpg The perfect christmas gift :) at least for us met-guys, don´t you think. Merry Christmas, and greetings from Austria Stefan Brandes __ Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
